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That one’s even better! – you could use that for a variation on the old joke: Two carny vores are eating a clown, one says to the other “Does this taste funny to you?”

If it was established that there was no remaining coercion or influence or fear of punishment if they didn’t come back and fuck or whatever then there;s an argument they can give informed consent to say yes and it wouldn’t be rape. Otherwise I’d say it still applies. Of course, I always tag on the side of caution with rape content perhaps other folks’d say different.

I’ve written similar themes funnily enough. The thing about consent is that it has to be informed uncoerced consent or it’s not consent. In this situation the celebs are not in a position to give informed uncoerced consent because ultimately if they refuse they’re punished for their refusal. The stockholm syndrome/brainwashing/whathaveyou seems to me to be a comparable altered mental state to someone who is given/takes intoxicants and so might say “Yeah, I’ll fuck!” but is actually too drunk or stoned to make the informed decision. In both situations if advantage is taken by a non-drunk/stoned/brainwashed party and it’s not real consent although frat boy lawyers like to try and argue different. With the story as described I’d be tagging it all rape.

Some of it’s even weirder, like there’s a fetish for being eaten by a Disney Volkswagen Beetle, which is “Herbie Vore”. *Flees*

So, very basically, Soft Vore is where someone swallows someone else whole and they almost always survive the experience being kept inside and walked around and sometimes being released later for good behavior in the stomach or similar. Not uncommon to be seen combined in stories with giants (macrophilia) or normal sized people eating tiny people (microphilia) and the like as well as a furry fanbase which has even more specialised terms because furries furry. Hard Vore tends to be bloody and messy with biting/chewing and also some would include any otherwise soft vore that ends with digestion and death as hard vore also. It’s all cheerfully fucked up and folks like to argue the specific semantics of it for hours. Unbirthing is exactly what it sounds like, sometimes seen in the “anal vore” varient.

Think how triggered you’d be if you accidentally read some warm and fuzzy feelings. The horror… the horror… Edit: I’m sure I have vore tagged on some stories, but that was probably self tagging. I can’t remember it being on the old tag list either. It’s a slippery slope though. If they added Vore they’d have people are complaining the vore in one story is too violent and bloody, to be tagged just vore so then they’re having calls for “soft vore” and “hard vore” and, gods help us, “unbirthing” tags.

You’d need a Nec tag too for that...

So a mare goes into a bar and the barman says, “Why the long face?” And the mare says “They won’t write anybody fuckin’ me!”

Oooh, I missed one! Yeah, so, I have used this so I can answer. Although the site is called Adultfanfiction it doesn’t just mean adult for sex. There are lots of other adult stories folks can tell, which’re welcome here, and the site admins are also okay about adult-writing authors also sticking their PG-13 stories on here. So, I’ve done a few pieces that don’t have any sex in them, some inspired by forum prompts here. Now, some readers are here at the site for just one thing: Manual stimulation of their genitals until they achieve climax. Those users, barring specfic sex free fetishes, generally don’t want to waste time reading JayDee making meta-jokes about Mary Sue or second person writing form, or writing about one dimensional stereotype characters having a sex free slumber party. Or a cat woman being friendzoned by an Orc, although that’s a great fic and everyone should totally read and review. No, those people want to masturbate furiously to sex scenes. The NoSex tag is therefore a great way to let folks know that a story doesn’t have sex in it and hey can scroll on looking for all the good tags that will get them closer to the kind of post orgasmic shame that comes free with every JayDee fuckfic. @KassX It’s a sad sick world.

‘fraid it was. Musta made Thanksgiving dinner awkward that year.

Always room for more comments! And more tags – can I finish this? It’s been a quiet couple of days for me... Exhib – This is a fun theme! I think my best scene with it was Sonya Blade happily showing off her pierced nipples in the Sonya/Sheeva fic to an appreciative audience. FF – Yep, done some of this! For when you’re a strong independent four armed monster woman who don’t need no man. That Witch/Rochelle L4D fic was fun to do as well. Fet – Don’t recall using this tag, but might have done if it was specifically fetish heavy or the fetish wasn’t covered elsewhere. Fingering – So there’s this comedian, Mae Martin, who talked about the difference between types of FF she reads, being a bit of a Bellatrix/Hermione shipper. And how she didn’t like references to girls curiously exploring each other’s bodies, because “nobody wants to be curiously explored, they just wanna be fingered” But, yeah, I’ve written this. Fist – Been here, too, but not so often. I tended to find it a harder one to get right. Also, kept getting muppet flashbacks. FD – Yay! I like this tag. I’m still proud of my “Just a Cat” story making the old Topless Robot Fanfiction Friday mockery column. Some of the fantasies are now perhaps seen as transphobic, but my fantasy futas are never intended as accurate representations of Trans issues and I have some experience there. Lets face it, though, they are the very least of the reasons I have had to get flamed when it comes to identify politics. GB – I haven’t played around with this too much, although I did have one story that revolved around it as kind of a punchline, Crazy Pillow Talk. HC,HC - Hurt/Comfort – Don’t think I ever really explored this theme. TBH I always think “hardcore” if I see HC. I seem to recall it being quite popular in Yaoi for a while, especially in “canon female partner hurts canon male partner, who then gets helped by not-partner-in-canon male/original character male/futa fox with giant furry cock” stories. HJ – Jerkin the gerkin has for sure appeared, much like fingering. Herm - I’m 99% sure I always went the fantasy “dickgirls with bigol’ balls” route rather than writing characters with both sets of sexual organs. I guess that time I gave Cho Chang pussy tentacles to rape Draco with semi-counts. Hum – I was never that choosy about interspecies or otherwise relationships in fiction so have had stories with this tag since it was introduced. Humil – Definitely have had characters being humiliated and feeling intense shame. If I was a better writer I might even have shown rather than told sometimes. Bit shameful on my part really. Inc – As mentioned, the original story I wrote got me in a spot of bother. I kind’ve wish he’d mentioned all the real details were real as I coulda said “How about I change all the names/main details for the posted fic, and if you want to edit it to include them for your personal acts of self-abuse, well, that might work.” But one of my earlier stories I was pretty happy with, Rhode Island Redneck was a good ol’ incest fic. Loli – Nah, not my thing; pretty illegal in my jurisdiction, too. MBP – I don’t think I ever wrote a story with this specific fetish included, but I read one not too long ago with a Harry/Narcissa scene that was just fantastic. MC – I did one, long time ago, with a mind controlling character from DC comics. I think this can be a fun little topic, along with the CR tag, but it’s not one I explored too much. MF – Obviously in fanfiction any pairing that isn’t MM is treated with disgust and revulsion by 90% of the fanbase but I’ve persevered with a few pieces. I kid, I kid, it’s only 88%. MM – I’ve dabbled. I was quite proud when one of my TF2 stories inspired a piece of art from a TF2 MM artist. I don’t have a copy of the art as it’s also likely illegal in my jurisdiction. Very popular tag tho’ Ms – Actually writing relationships tended to stretch my PWP to plot so didn’t happen often. I doubt I have this tagged on anything. MCD – Kind’ve a speciality for a time, but there’s a lot of authors did it better like Deathstalker. “Flaying Solo” and “Taking the Sky from Kaylee” are the ones that earned me the most flames. MiCD – “TONIGHT, SOMEONE DIES... but it’s not a main character. It’s Bob from accounts. Now Superman will have to do the JLA’s tax returns.” In some ways it was simpler back if you were just tagging death, but I understand how these two can be big ol’ triggers. Minor1 – See Loli. I once thought about doing something with the old “hunting a predator” theme, like what if the girl from Hard Candy was an eldritch abomination who was really hungry. Trope has been used before but I thought I could do something new with it, and a Minor1 tag would probably have been needed, but wouldn’t have done any actual sexual contact stories or anything. It woulda been the molester screaming and getting ripped open. Minor2 – It’s sort of a cultural thing, in my jurisdiction anybody 16 or over can legally have sex with anybody 16 or over and for quite a while 16-17 year olds featured in softcore photoshoots so I ended up with a cultural mentality that writing about 16-17 year olds was ok and younger was not. Of course, when I first started writing dirty stuff under earlier pen names I was a lot closer to 16-17 than I am now and it’s probably a bit creepier these days. Plus, you know, A lot of the people I used to like have got older just like me and Tilda Swinton and Brad Pitt are still freakin’ hot. MPreg – I always have a hard time taking this one seriously. A lot of that is down to the mocking term “ass baby” and also male pregnancy often being a matter of comedy or slightly odd religious myths. I always intended to do a jokey story with it, but I don’t think I ever did. Nec – The best thing about Nec is that most of the time (yes, not always) it reduces the amount of dialogue you have to write by at least one character. Also, my short story “Nymphadora Necrophilia” was very well reviewed so either I did something right, or folks were just being nice in the hopes that I’d stop. NonFic – Way back in the day there were journal bits and game guides and the rest posted to the archive, but I thought all that stuff was gone now. Authors notes and that relegated to the forums over the set length. Possibly something I’m overlooking tho’ OC – Yeah, I’ve done original characters. One of them was specifically requested for a Wonder Woman request I did and I got a review saying it was a Mary Sue, but since it was a request original character it’s totally a sue by proxy instead. Maybe. I dunno. Oneshot – Short, to the point, and I get to use a Complete Tag. Then, uh, take it off when I write another part. I like ‘em. Stories don’t need to have 80 chapters to be fun. The weakness with the Oneshot format on AFF though is that once it’s off the front page, barring edits, it ain’t never going back there. Some of my oneshots have tens of thousands of hits but they’re a) years old now and b) apparently in more popular fandoms/themes. A multi-chapter story with regular updates seems to be the way to go for more reviews anyhow. Oral – Yes! And not just because, again, it reduces dialogue for a bit for at least one character. It’s so much fun to give oral. Other – Well, there is no warning for “frottage” or “bad fucking jokes,” so I think I’ve had cause to use it. Although actually not sure if I did frottage. “Parody - Parody (Note ALL parodies must be approved by original author)” – I have done a homage story to another author’s fic with permission, but have never done a parody of one. I guess if I wanted to rip the piss out of another author’s story, and they didn’t want to grant permission/approval, I’d take the moral and ethical high road and just not post it to AFF. Peg – Yes, have at least a couple peggings. Adult Bart Simpson got a fun one in one story. This tag does make me think of pirates though. Have any Disney fics ever had Peg-Leg Pete pegged? And if not, why not? Preg – I did a whole trilogy around impregnation. Can be fun! PWP – Yeah, up with MCD, a whole lot of my stories have been PWPs. Get the pervs touching themselves and hopefully leaving a sticky review. Racist – Topless Robot mocked my use of “Honky” in “Just A Cat” but it was set in the 1970s and that term was still in use. Obviously if I did it set today I’d have gone with something more modern. Oh, and as with bigotry I’ve written some nasty motherfuckers. I remember one of the reviews I got elsewhere mentioned that my constant belittling of a character for being a racist moron detracted from the story. Rape – My memory is kind’ve hazy. I think I might have written 1 or 2 or 30 or so stories with rape content. Rape fantasy is fine and healthy and I often have mental images of myself being horribly violated, but as long as it’s only fantasy it’s fine. Rim – Was definitely in my other Sheeva fic, the futa one with Stryker. SandM – Not sure if I ever tagged for this. Lot of my stories have elements of Sadism and a few have had Masochists but may not have been in this theme. Scat – I’ve had it as an element in a few stories but only ever started one story dedicated to it, which I didn’t get time to do beyond the first part. It’s pretty hardcore, but even I’ve never done vomit play / Roman Showers, mostly due to lack of effort. Puke snowballs probably have their place. SH – Jumping straight into the fucking most of the time probably left my stories without time for this, though there might have been some basic elements if you include – as people really should – verbal harassment. Not sure if I ever considered it and tagged. Shouta – Nah. 16 year old Link is cute, but younger is meh. Soldier over Scout! SI – I’ve never written myself into a story. I wrote you in, though. You’re welcome. Sarsa says hi. Slave – I’ve had characters enslaved – that Potter pregnancy trilogy – so probably tagged this. Solo – Characters on their own can have fun. I’ve definitely written characters pleasuring theirself. “Something about JayDee’s story really spoke to me.” Spank – They used to call this the British Disease. There’s a ridiculous amount of Victorian pornography on the topic. I think I had a spanking in an FF story, but mostly folks were getting hit by blades or clubs rather than open hands to the buttocks. TBDL - ... ... ... this must have had a big phase at some point. And yet when I want to find a good Tribbing it’s waaaaay hard. Oh well. No, see ABDL above. Tent – I always found tentacle stuff hard to write. Like, I wanted to show where they were and what they were doing, but it was hard to get it across properly. I’d say some of my least successful porn was my tentacle attempts. I wanted to revisit the monster from “Under Joan’s Bed” though. TF – Yeah, I did at one point. I wanted to do a gorgon fic for a long time, too. Everybody must get stoned, as Bob Dylan sang. Tort – Yup. Did some really unpleasant “dying slow and hard” stuff at one point. Still less extreme than than some of the “American exchange student comes to Hogwarts” stories I’ve been subjected too. Toys – Have had toys involved. Sometimes the definition is stretched. To power tools. Trans – See above on FD/Herm, haven’t done proper exploration of trans issues. I think I did a crossdresser bit once. I’ve actually had a story planned for years with a crossdressing male protagonist, but I could never get the plot right. UST – Heh, no, all the tension gets resolved in a few paragraphs. Quicker, if Shannon’s there. Violence – See Tort, MCD, Rape etc etc. Had some nice fighty bits as well that were not sexual, occasionally. I’d have liked to maybe have done more about an Orc and her axe. Voy – Yeah, where fucking’s been public I’ve had people watching and enjoying. I think I’ve never done anything about a character who prefers to watch though, which could have been interesting. WAFF – Don’t remember using it, but I haven’t done a whole lot of anime. WD – Bit of a specific tag. I don’t remember using it, either. Ejaculating into a sleeping character on the other hand... WIP – I prefer to think of it is “finished optimistically early.” WS – Have definitely written this stuff. Both as willing and unwilling degradation. I think my favourite scene was when the Elf unintentionally pissed over the Orc, but she liked it. Xeno – There was a point before the “hum” tag when I think I used this for demons. I know some users are disappointed it’s not the “Greek philosophy” tag, with a bit of corruption of youth thrown in. My big Predator story likely had it as well before “hum.” ....and done. Breathe.

I guess it is semantics. I just see it as if you’re adding Rape to BDSM it ceases in any way to be BDSM and so the BDSM tag would not apply. I guess to me it’s completely different, unrelated level of content even with many of the same elements and I suppose I have a mental block of seeing it any different, whereas, as you’ve explained, you feel differently. I think we probably just see it from completely different viewpoints and might have to agree to disagree, or end up repeating ourselves in slightly different ways and failing to get anywhere! Damn semantics…

Some more thoughts on tags: B-Mod – Yes, I did this! I had a nipple piercing scene as part of the Sheeva/Sonya Blade story. It’s kind of a fetish thing in some areas, of course, and I can see how it could be quite triggering. I bet fans of the “gothification” subgenre search for ‘em too. Bond – They took this one away for a bit and I asked ‘em to bring it back for all the rapey bondage stuff (here http://www2.adult-fanfiction.org/forum/topic/12402-content-code-suggestions/?do=findComment&comment=354332 ) because a lot of the time characters were getting restrained for the violatin’ and such. Good wholesome tag BP – I have used this, but rarely. I think I tended to assume it was pretty fetish specific while blood just tended to get splattered around the place for mine without being focus or toy. Maybe if I’d done more vamp stuff? It’s on the Sheeva/Sonya story but I finished that ages ago and cannot specifically recall what for. Maybe after the flaying near the end? Did I leave the flaying in? Damn, my mind is getting hazy. CBT – A lot of the “male being dominated” stuff I’ve done has involved unlikely anal insertions so I don’t know specifically if I used this. I always wanted to do a sounding fic. Can’t specifically recall having used it though. ChallengeFic – Ha, yeah, many of my finished stories are request fics or story prompt words. Making someone’s fucked up fantasy appear on the page was always a nice challenge. Always a shame when they didn’t give any feedback afterwards though. This also caused me the most trouble too though, after I did those original fics where the guy provided his real name, his sister’s real name and enough real life details for his family to find them because for fucks sake that was a good idea. COMPLETE – Always nice to be able to use this. There’s a few I have that’re unfinished and likely never will be. A tendency to write more parts for “oneshots” has been a little self defeating sometimes. Contro – This is a relatively newer tag (cue “It’s been here a good five years now!”) and makes sense as a trigger warning. I guess it’s a little subjective – there’s some areas where anything pro-abortion or pro “not letting fuckwits with raging paranoia and drug induced psychosis have easy access to guns” plot points are pretty controversial but I think the tag works quite well. Some of these work as well as advertisements as warnings! CR – I don’t really remember the corruption tag. Is it newer? Perhaps I’ve just overlooked it? I’ve done stories with corruption elements so if the tag had been there I hope I’d have used it. One of my favourite original stories is Tantric Legion’s old Infernal Destiny from years ago. I like the theme! Ds – I’ve done some stories with dominating and submitting characters but I tend to think of this as implying a more formal ideal than I’ve written usually. I may have a story with this tagged but don’t recall it. Dom – As with DS. I think I used it once or twice? Maybe? Certainly had some domination going on. My fading memory is really leaving me with less to say about some of these! DP – Multitasking characters are fun! I have used this’n a few times generally in 3plus situations. My List part 3 - http://www2.adult-fanfiction.org/forum/topic/66607-on-tags-ive-used-by-a-writer/?do=findComment&comment=414416

So I guess the reason I think it doesn’t make sense is because what you’re describing isn’t BDSM at all. It’s rape and torture and bondage and sadism – all of which are fun for fics! and most of which have tags seperately - but it’s not BDSM because it isn’t consensual and one party is unwilling. I mean, if you have all that then later on consensual BDSM stuff then that’s a “both tags” situation for sure, but if it’s all rapey it just ain’t BDSM. This is likely one of those things where I’m kind’ve anal about terminology I guess, but hey, just my thoughts on things. I know my views on the whole “dubcon” label aren’t widely popular either! @Desiderius Price Tentacles pending sounds like a hentai character’s todo list

The tag on AFF actually was “NC” instead of “rape” or “rapefic” for quite a long time, but the codes have changed and clarified since. I think NC was stopped a good few years ago now. The one that hacks me off is “Dubcon.” Either characters have established consent (whether it has been made aware to the readers or not) or they haven’t. And if they haven’t, it’s rape. If they have it’s consent. There’s no dubious consent. Bah. There’s loads more points I have to rant about this but, screw it, I don’t like the term, other writers seem to, and I’m a bitter old nobody left behind by modern events. Edit: ps Horsecock. chortle. Edit2: @CloverReef “Today’s seminar: The correct use of pegging in establishing a character as a right little bitch boy.” Edit3: The @ tagging didn’t work first time. So I’m also left behind by modern forum tagging. Bah and indeed humbug.

I’ve written scat. I’ve got one with Harry and Bellatrix, and it appears in a few others. It’s nice to do something different! ...and on today’s episode of “Why you don’t mess with BW”…

Sure! It’s a discussion forum not a lecture room

I started this for the thread Never Would I Ever Write this Tag… but realised it was increasingly off topic and derailing, and if I finish my thoughts on all the current tags it’d lead to wall-of-text breaks in the conversation there so started a new one to keep it in place. If you’ve got a tag you wouldn’t ever write, click the link and talk about it there! Meanwhile, my thoughts on tags I have written and other tags and general stuff from a writer’s perspective. If it belongs more in aimless babble or something then I hope one of the mods will be happy to move it (Thanks if so!): 3Plus - Yep, have written this. The more the merrier but it can be hard for less talented writers like myself to keep track of where things are at any given time. So, you've written a cock up an ass and then you write another cock up the same ass and then you've got either a cocktinuity error or double anal. ABDL - If I was back writing and there was a challenge that really engaged me I could see me doing a story with it, but it falls squarely in the "very specific fetish that doesn't arouse me so is hard to understand" catagory for me. I'm semi-surprised it's even popular enough to have had a tag while more common weird fetishes like sizeplay/shrinking/growth don't, but of course some of the tags were very different in the early years and it's grown and changed. Abortion - I have a story that would qualify for this warning tag ("Revenge of the Ravenclaw" -self abortion sort-of-blood-magic) but doesn't have it. I think it may have been brought in after the story was written, because I was always pretty hot on tagging anything triggering that had tags available. Could have missed it though. Definitely a tag that you want not because there's any kind of fetished/meant to be sexy content in it (certainly isn't in mine) but because of the importance of helping people avoid content that would disturb them. Incidentally, while I fully support that for porn I think it's fucking stupid in an academic context. Abuse - Have written. Have had characters get the shit abused out of them. And indeed into them, but that's later. AFFO - I've got some AFF exclusives! I think all of the Slumber Party stories are AFFO. You! is too. Ageplay - I don't remember exploring this kink, but you could have some fun with it. Yoda/Luke for example... I guess I'd take a crack sometime if I was writing again. Anal - Written it from both the rough hard violent angle and the gentle more fun loving angle. It has it's place. Angst - This is a hard one to get right. Fanfic writers do like to see their favorite characters summer emotional torments that can only finally be soothed away by a spot of anal. I think I have had some angsty characters, although my stories having PWP tendancies tend to reduce the options. Anthro - Yiff in hell furfags! You and all your anthro loving kind can... wait, what? I wrote what? Loving furry yaoi? Oh, yeah. Let me rephrase that. Anthro's great! Can't go wrong with a furry fuckfest. BDSM - Me? Write anything “Safe, sane and consensual”? Not in this lifetime. This is a tag that I feel gets misused. If a character is tied up and tortured and raped and hasn't given clear prior consent, limits, boundaries and the rest or got the option to withdraw consent at any time it's not BDSM but it still gets tagged as such. And joking aside, I did write a consensual BDSM scene one time I'm sure, with an Orc/Elf, but it was in the same story as earlier rape and such. Beast - Have written. It's fine in fantasy, abhorant in the real world. Got a few requests that made me smile. Although throwing out the word "Horsecock" just makes me giggle like a schoolgirl. I'm doing it right now. Giggle. Bi - I've written Bi encounters. Bi visibility is something that could definitely be improved in this world of ours. Possibily not through one of my fics though. Bigotry - Ahh, trigger warning time. Yeah, I've done it. Lot of bigoted characters in my fics, generally because if I was writing someone doing something horrible to someone else it was easier if they were not a nice person. My List part 2 http://www2.adult-fanfiction.org/forum/topic/66607-on-tags-ive-used-by-a-writer/?do=findComment&comment=414406 My List part 3 - http://www2.adult-fanfiction.org/forum/topic/66607-on-tags-ive-used-by-a-writer/?do=findComment&comment=414416

Edit: I wrote quite a long thing before deciding it was a bit thread derailing, so will move it to another topic. On topic – I get why Scat is a major dealbreaker, but honestly WS can be pretty fun!

I tend to miss that stuff anyway clicking from the latest posts thing, I know I missed a LOTR discussion was in male/male one time.

I find the forum layout a little confusing sometimes, it seemed to say section as DC 'Verse & other Comics > Fic recommendations to me! Ah well. Harley was in an episode of Teen Titans Go! and probably been in a Teen Titans comic at some point or another so still fits!

I’m a big fan of the Harley Quinn/OC fic Arkham Love by Drowsteel. It predates the MiCD/MCD tags so, uh, that’s a warning.

You may need to remember a little more to narrow it down some.

“Taste the brainbow!”

I guess “You!” is on hiatus so… 1? If I ever finish it. The thing is, I worked out who you are. I worked out how your story ended. You… you objected. You want a different ending. Oh, and Kate wants a scratch behind the ears. It’s a mess.