JayDee

Yeah, that's as detailed as I'll put on the forum. Too much and I'd run afoul of the rules about too-much story content on this section of the site. And I don't want do do that. They never found the last writer who did, but the rumor is you can still hear their screams on a blue moon. My aim next is to get part one first drafted as I think I have enough in place for the plan to get going, and doing so will get all the non-sex stuff written and also give you the best idea if it is going along as you'd like it. Not sure when it will be done due to my slow schedule, but I'd like to say within a couple weeks and possibly sooner. Chapter 2 is aimed to have a lot of the individual positions tried, I'm basically going through the thread, and copy pasting it into a check list as a guide, but I'll be using my own writing to tell the story. Obviously, non-sex stuff is great in a regular erotica or non-erotic story and I wouldn't say a word against it, but keeping in with the porno tropes it's less important to this story. Willow's upset, Willow wants to feel wanted, golly there's a lot of guys who'd like to help. Cue the music. Also, as long as 17 year old Jonathan gets to see some linoleum before the blindfold goes on, he'll want to take part in everything sexual. Xander said so. And from the same episode, Oz pointed out that Willow was trying to make out with him to make Xander jealous, so that's a character point that can come back for motivation. Admittedly, there's a small difference between "kiss" to make Xander jealous, and "three hole fuckathon" to make Oz jealous, but I'll chalk that one up to Rule 34. And Oz will still get his selection of Willow freeze frames. As long as Tumblr never hears about the story, it'll be fine. So nobody tell tumblr. *Looks wildly around. Oh Shit, the Tumblrians! They found me! I don't know how, but they found me! Run Marty!*

So, basic chapter structure - Chapter 1 Willow picked up, seduced (I'm looking at ways for Willow to convincingly consent to everything, think I can swing it) receives and gives oral and fucked first time, followed by blowjobs and groping, more vaginal, beginnings of degrading language & then Willow's first anal, swiftly followed by her first session air-tight (triple penetration) Chapter 2 More gang fucking, getting in a lot of the little bits suggested thrown in, followed by Parker coming by on way to visit his old high school sweetheart/college fiancee, ends up screwing Willow and becoming asshole we know and liked seeing Cave Buffy knock down, Willow by then has tasted 29 men, semen gratitude scene with Jerry, Patrick and another guy Chapter 3 Pizza delivery - Jonathan blindfolded, cuffed and brought in to rim Willow's well used ass, then they let him fuck her, when it turns out he has huge tool, followed by/during eating pizza, Willow entertained with magic dildo as pizza consumed and instructions given, possible ghost fuck? Moves into Kitty play, Willow has drink from bowl, vaginal, blow/rimming line up in kitty gear, hair leash, guys decide Willow needs a bigger drink, beer bong time. Chapter 4 Willow plays Tekken while fucked as only one guy hasn't shown interest, beats that guy who finally stops playing for a hard standing fuck, before pulling out, Bowling grip throwing her to others she goes into DVDA double-blow and hand job, he goes back to game. He's harcore, and also didn't drink the potion. After that, Willow exhausted, gang grope getting her to come even more, guys come on her, posing Willow for camera, catching goofy fucked silly expression showing full extent of gaping etc, last few comeshots over/in her. High fives all round Epilogue - Willow driven home, drenched panties and polaroids left for Oz, porno becomes wildly popular with stills breaking dial-up internet. Where are they now spoof ending etc. I'm not done on the planning yet, there's a lot to include and the full bullet points I'm working on will try and specify more detail so I can refer while I am writing, but that's what I've got into shape. I'm aware of all the extra little bits that can fit into the chapters from the list of things you like to see and I'm still working on the balance for that, as I said, if there are ideas that don't get used, or even those that do, use 'em in another story - far as I'm concerned if anything I've suggested works for your story or as the basis of this or another request go ahead and toss it in!

I tried doing one, but writing from right to left killed my keyboard.

Pleasurable Evils Thank you for your review! Yeah, I guess I always try and recommend for people who don't like that kind of content not to read it, it's for a niche audience of sick fucks and horror fans. I don't remember the parameters specifically, I think a major part of it was to be a hopeless and defeated Buffy jointly tortured/violated by soulless Spike and Angelus and I think the rest of it came out of that, to explain why Buffy's friends couldn't help her. It has been so long since I wrote/read it, I don't remember a lot of the details... I do remember the brief M/M content wasn't in the original request, I just tossed it in there because Dr B didn't object. Just had a look through the last part - Maybe it does sound a little like Spike... eh. Thanks again. And please, please, don't subject yourself to anything that looks to contain violence, gore, death, dickgirls or ridiculously racist characters.

"Oh, my god, you total evil scum I hope you burn in hell as soon as you finish my story"? Edit: That was a request too, that story. It's amazing what I'll write to make someone happy.

Everyone's gonna be Dude, or Bro, or Fag if they're bitching at each other, 'cos Dude-bro homophobia. Sadly, someone else already made the "Vaginal sex is so gay" joke. I don't think I'll contribute anything from that guide, it'd cramp my writing style to look too much at it. I'm just watching a few episodes from Season 3 for research, and I'll be disclaiming Buffy anyway.

If the writer of that guide found out I'd used it to assist in the writing of a morally dubious gangbang porno, I'd be a newt before dawn. But, honestly, if any of the lines I write sound remotely in character, or like actual human dialogue, it'll be something like a miracle.

I was thinking to write it with Willow thinking of technical terms eg "Penis" to start with, or "naughty thing" but as the gang bang continues she'll hear so many less polite terms that she'd be start them mentally too. I have an idea for a few dialogue exchanges over terminology as one of the things to keep talking going between descriptive paragraphs. Edit: Not that she's like, a total innocent. She had a dirty sense of humor, just didn't talk crudely!

I guess as far as the language goes, when I've got it written and show you the first draft, you can copy/paste bits that you don't like and I can change them! Same will be for anything that I throw in while actually writing, if a guy does something or whatever that you don't like I can cut it out (and re-use it in another story sometime ) And of course, you have an open request so once this story is done you can point to it and say "I liked these bits, but these bits weren't as good" or "here's some extra thoughts I had that didn't make it in." Especially, I like to put in jokes and things to porno style stories, but if any of those appear distracting I can strip them out and re-use. I don't mean "why did the chicken cross the road," but stuff like a reference to Jerry being happy the potion worked properly this time, after the last batch had missing ingredients replaced with Twinkies and nearly gave a MILF diabetes when they shot their too sweet and fluffy sperm over her. Picked the MILF up at an art gallery, Jerry tells me. I wish characters wouldn't write back stories for me. I don't think I've used love tunnel, but now I kind of want to. Something about how it was previously only open to one way traffic... I'm gonna do my best to keep away from anything that brings to mind scat/shit, obviously, which will be a challenge on how I normally write anal. At no point will I reference "A delivery of fresh cream to the fudge factory". Quite busy and planning things in my head! Started on the lay out/bullet points at least and adding amendments/notes to the guys list. It helps that I've been thinking of it on-and-off since the initial request. but discussing it with you has helped me formulate the lay out/events to include a lot more and a much clearer idea of what you particularly like and don't like. If I can get it to write down like I have it in my head, I think it will be a great porn story.

I think there key there would be where pressure is applied. You can lift up around the chest without hurting someone at all, so as long as most of the grip was there and the shocker was just steering, then with porn logic applied it could be pretty pain free. So long as he doesn't follow up the bowling grip by throwing her down an alley. A lot of it is practice, I guess. There's probably speech modules you can download for English, too, if you did want to get more used to hearing it and meanings - there may even be porn versions . "See Willow Come. Come, Willow, Come. Willow came." Some people prefer cum to come as a spelling in porn, especially to refer to semen. I can go either way, but sometimes expect cum to continue in Latin, "Yeah, swallow all my cum grano salis! vidi vici veni! Ad infinitum! vae me, puto, concacavi me!" Or something. Nothing original there, it's all quoting. I'd estimate most of the western world's English speaking population don't know the meaning of the word preposition. They probably think it means bending their partner over for sex. So you're ahead of the game there, and as I say when it comes down to it my own technical knowledge is kind of weak. I get tenses mixed up, miss words, and so on. Luckily, not usually bad enough to stop someone masturbating over my porn!

It's all good fun I might make it Ben Wierzbowski yet, if he has a bigger role. Ben's the important bit though. Not every surname will make it in anyway, it's just a list for me to refer too to keep the one dimensional OC bangers in some kind of order. I mean, if I forget Parker, what chance does the guy whose only role is to shout "Consume my ejaculate, else I warm thy rebellious behind with my crop you fiery mane'd filly" have? Wait, sorry, that's a character who escaped from another far-less-readable story. Write what you feel! There's a small chance you'll get negative reviews for just doing silly/PWP works, but you can learn from the constructive criticism and be amused by the people who just don't like that it's porn. You've got tonnes of ideas and you write posts fluently, so it'd mostly be a case of planning it out and writing what you want to see, then polishing it up. Starting with a short story is a good way to go, or maybe even a few short chapters - at least here on AFF you can post up quickly, even if feedback can be a little patchy. I'm no good as beta because of my limited time, poor knowledge of the technical side and the like, but I'll happily look it over when you write it and let you know of anything obvious that sticks out. Write first, edit later. Or fling it onto the internet and wait for someone to point out all the errors. That, uh, that worked for me.

Salty popcorn in this case, I guess Ok, working on the bullet points/story order plan I'm going to take a little longer on the bullet points than normal to make sure I cover everything that works, and also add notes about motivation and that, and then I'll PM you and see if it all hangs together/makes sense, changes that need to be made. It's going to be a bigger project then I initially thought, but I'd like to get in as much as possible! Hopefully be done by the weekend though. (as noted I am not fastest writer ) And no doubt I will overlook something as with Parker, so do mention anything missing. I also realised one of the guys needs to be called Ben for a joke I want to fit in a character making, so Benny is now Ben Smith.

Not responding to every point, but taking it all on board now. As opposed to Bored Now. I had no idea there was a Dan on youtube of that name. I shall rename the character. You may rest assured that I wasn't intending to write any M/M content, I simply wanted to have one character who was angrier, more aggressive and taking out of self-hatred and basically a bigger douchebag than the rest. Also, he really likes anal. And, sure, slapstack, if someone calls him on looking at their junk too much and he gets pissed. I mean, if I'm writing about dude-bros there's gonna be homophobic characters. It's really just a way to differentiate one dick from the rest. Forgot about Parker! I'll replace one of the alliterated guys with Parker. I have a small role in mind for him that fits with the requested porn; he’s a cameo like Jonathan. I might change/amend the names list a little, it’s a rough work as part of gathering everything together. I guess the guys who drink the cum-a-lot potion will just have mildly addictive semen – not even as an intended side effect, but that could certainly cause absent minded licking, wanting to swallow more and the like. I really want to avoid drugging, but I can have it as only mildly suggestive, in the same way the body likes to eat more biscuits. Can possibly imply Willow liked sours and such sweets, doesn’t mind bitterness, Demon Jerry’s actually does taste of strawberries (Jonathan licks Willow’s ass, she tastes of strawberries.... one for Rack there.”) etc. Things that aren’t explicit in canon and silly but not too stupid can be twisted into the porn. Certainly Willow will be playing something of a role, will need to be to engage in some of the acts suggested. I see the importance of this scene of “semen as a gift” and expressed gratitude to you, so I’ll put it onto the set piece bullet order plan, and see how it comes out. As it were. I was going to have Max come from Fucking, but sadly that’s in Austria, so I went for the city that I have long been assured doesn’t exist as a suitable home for a fictional character.

Teabagging and dropped food will probably appear then! I don't mind bunnies! I'm not Anya! I guess I'd like to put as much detail as I can in the most important stuff, and then, sure, other things can get occasional references as happening but not focussed on. I'll see how it goes - it's the more big set piece ideas that do need details that I think there's enough of for this story - I'd like to finish it and as I say, anything that doesn't get used can go in another story. If Willow's getting as much semen into her mouth as the story suggests, I don't quite see how this particular 3 or 4 ejaculations would feel extra rewarding, and a big part of the appeal for this to me is keeping Willow at least somewhat in character, however I shall give the matter some thought. In the meantime, the names list - Characters (not in order of appearance) 1) Percy West, High school, canon, responsible for bringing Willow 2) Jonathan, High school, canon, either grabbed in by Percy while passing, or working job delivering pizza and pulled in when arrived. OCs: 3) Max Koch, exchange student from Bielefeld, Germany. 4) Richard "Big Dick" Biggs, House fuckmaster/gangbang organizer, tall, boisterous, and hung bigger than anybody except Jonathan. Alpha Sigma Sigma Eta house's top dog. 5) Demon Jerry Rogers, Fieri demon, Chemistry major who mixed the cock potion, looks human 6) George Levenstein, previously known to Willow as his family were family friends, good looking and erudite, Willow had crush on him once before is first seducing Willow 7) Frank "Ballbag" Buski, surprisingly large nuts, porn addict. 8) Matt "Johnson" Johnson, known for getting drunk and pulling out his Johnson. 9) Josh - "Big Josh" the shortest guy in the frat, one inch taller than Willow. 10) Josh "Little Josh" - The tallest guy in the frat, because if the gag was good enough for Little John, it's good enough for him. 11) Dan "The Man" Manson, deeply repressed homosexual, engaged in hyper masculine acts and homophobia to cover his lust for cock. 12) Ryan Garcia - half-hispanic, half-WASP, despite growing up in upper middle class luxury and attending college at the top of his class, acts (poorly) like a street gang member, 13) Billy Johnson, Justin's African-American buddy visiting the frat. 14) Wentworth Woodhouse III - Richest guy in the frat, addicted to Tekken 3 on the playstation. Kicked out of Harvard due to an ill defined incident involving three pints of cream, a live goat and the Bishop of Boston. 15) Patrick Byrne - Another human demon, Irish-Demon-American from the east coast. And background characters unless I come up with more character points, names chosen in the finest comics tradition: 16) Jon Jenkins 17) Tony Taylor 18) Eric Edwards 19) Adam Allen 20) Kevin King 21) Tom Turner 22) Steve Samson 23) Stevey Scott 24) Kyle Kelly 25) Benny Bailey 26) Jake Jordan 27) Justin Jones 28) Shawn Sullivan 29) Bob Roberts 30) Derrick Derzuname

Not, not wrong to describe genitals and the like it's just with a request fic what the requester gets is a story that hopefully takes their ideas and fleshes them out into a story they and hopefully others can masturbate over. What I get out of doing free requests is being creative in that world - the fun part for me is trying to come up with good descriptions and plot-hole solutions and the like! If the description is done + the plot then I'm not writing, I'm just editing. I hope I didn't sound pissy about it! Some of your sex descriptions in the above post show a pretty good talent for writing actual porn, I'll have to be careful not to plagiarise them I think there's a lot of things to be going on with here in terms of set piece events for the story, so probably further suggestions/ideas likes/dislikes would be best around what's there. I'll get the bullet points around that content. If you have other extra ideas I totally recommend writing as much down as possible, because anything that doesn't get used in the story I write can either be suggested to someone else who takes the request, go in a different request, or perhaps even form the basis of a story you write yourself once you get some more confidence! Anytime you have an idea, write it down. You'll be surprised how soon you have a text file full of things that make you go "What in the nine hells was I drinking?" only a year later! Ok - the Edits No shit featuring, got it. The body'll have to break down something to make all that extra sperm, no doubt that will account for more efficient stomachs leading to empty rectums. Jonathan can felch Willow while licking her ass, but not anybody else. Regarding long straw, well, they can maybe use the tube from the beer bong - Willow on her hands and knees with a tube over her shoulder and in her ass. Something like that. Was going to put Willow in this outfit. Sure, the guys having showers and the like makes sense - while there will be 30 guys over all, including Jonathan, I think for a lot of the time there will be only about 5-10 or so actively around/engaged with Willow. I think I'll drop the idea of leaving her for Oz because that stretches events out too long and it'll be too cold. I think I can write it better going on from Nightfall until before/around Midnight on a winter night. Percy can drive Willow home afterwards, knock on the door and run off leaving her at the doorstop exhausted. He can leave some sticky polaroids for Oz to find, maybe. I'll leave natural auburn bush. 90s porn did have some hair, I'm sure! I'll try and work in as many of the positions as I can for variety. Not all of them will work, but the guys will have lots of time to experiment. It's a gangbang so it's heavy on the group participation and chants anyway, but I hadn't thought of counting so can probably add that. I haven't worked out all the characters yet, I was going to do that around putting the bullet points together. I've got a few ideas to differentiate some of them, those guys will play bigger parts than others. A "Head Fuckmaster" or similar sounds like something the frat would have for a gangbang. To keep it to Willow's personality, I was thinking it would already be quite naughty by the time she was naked and fully exposed - she'll have had oral and vaginal intercourse (through ripped pantyhose) and then once her clothes come off that'd probably be the time for display to more guys. A kind of "Are these all here for me?" moment. I think the plot will need to rely on Willow needing desperately to feel wanted after the second rejection, and that causing her to go along more with things. I'd actually been thinking of cat ears/tail toys - I saw it as a way to bring in a bowl of semen for that part of it. Bunny would work fine too, even if the idea would give Anya nightmares. Willow without outside influence - Well, that would work with a haunted dildo - once Willow comes the first time the Dildo comes out and then Phanton Dennis' Sunnydale cousin goes to town. To the views there's nothing to see apart from Willow, but to her it's very stimulating. Groping - Yeah, I figured later on the guys would be crowded around for that. I don't know if I could stretch the story to having it as separate scene. It can go on the "nice to have" list while not being essential to the original request. Same with the last idea, the more slavey elements - They're interesting ideas and would work well in a story, but it may be too much extra for this fuckfic. A variation of it with a student getting into a debate on some point and losing while fucking her would be easier to fit in. "Huh, you're right. Well here's your prize." kind of thing. I don't want to stifle your creativity, I just want to keep it to a manageable size! I think there's some great set pieces to work on! Thanks for your ideas and making it so clear what you like and don't like, I think a kick ass porno will come out of this. Edit: Alpha Sigma Sigma Eta house. That can be the frat. Most of the other combinations are taken by real frats.

Yep, I’d missed edit 6. Honestly, if I can’t describe genitalia or bodies I shouldn’t be in porn writing. I should stick to poetry about furniture. I’ll write it up as it comes and if there’s bits with more detail needed then let me know and I’ll pep ‘em up at that point. I’ll just make a note that you’re keen on lots of detail on the look of things! Hole swapping sounds like a good way to spread bacteria. I guess that lube lotion can have an anti-bacterial quality! In a related point, Clerks 2 tells us that in the heat of the moment it’s ok to go ass to mouth. What’s your thought on that? Following post – Ok, I’d not got that you want everything swallowing right off. I’ll keep it as clean as possible in that respect. Drenched with semen and a little saliva, but otherwise clean. 100% bile free. What if someone spills beer on/over her? Or food? Or gives her a slice of pizza with, um, special sauce? Can put in a 69 I should think. They’re pretty porn standard. Just trying to think if there’s anything missed you might like or not like... Big red bush? Felching? (no, I got it, no shitting out ) I dunno... I have to run again now, should get to check back about the same time tomorrow!

That’s a lot to think about, I’ll try and cover it all here – as I say feel free to keep adding stuff in until at least the story is bullet pointed/written and I’ll get onto replying/writing as I can. I still don’t have as much free time as I’d like Otto Normalverbraucher – Otto is one of those names that comes up as stereotypically German, like Herman, Fritz or Hans. And I’d totally call the character Max Koch if I used him. Rimming/blowjob queue – Yep, think that would work. Would fit in well with the penis swapping idea, I think – Willow fluffs the guys up, but none of them ejaculate and afterwards they have a game of ring-a-ring-a-Rosenberg. Beer-bong – “Chug! Chug! Chug!” chanting never seemed so sticky. Honestly, it doesn’t make sense for the spunk potion to include infertility – so the semi-healing lubricant can be the spermicidal element, and all the guys/demons not shooting blanks. Probably just the one semen bucket – could even cover it being the result of an initial dosing of the potion being blowing a heavy stay-fresh load, so everyone has a gulp of potion, contributes to the bucket and moves on to await the evening fun. Could say they’d been intending to wedge the bucket over the door of the chess club. I’ll think about that. You can pretty much excuse that kind of thing saying a wizard did it. The squirt thing – that might well have been a mix of whatever lube they had on set. It’s a porn-fantasy element, to be sure, but this whole story is based around porn fantasy tropes. Saliva – Whatever is being drooled will be pretty thick and white because of the sperm content! No vomit, though, I got that. One day I shall write a story with a Roman Shower warning, but it won’t be this one Screencaps – Yep, with a dirty mind one can screencap people in all kinds of smutty ways. Great actress playing Willow, though, I agree. Creampie – Well, there’s the other lubricant being used too. Honestly, with the sheer amount of semen being ejaculated in this story it’ll come out on its own accord. Yes, very sensible to rule out anything you don’t want to see. It wouldn’t be out of character for me to write something in completely oblivious to the horrified reactions of the readers. Or completely amused at any rate. Any more stuff you don’t want included, say it! Angel – I could add it as a ‘nice to have’ but unless the idea of him seeing Willow getting banged is especially arousing to you, I think it maybe it could detract from the porn. Everybody is going to find out anyway thanks to the bestselling tape they’ll make from which Willow will get a good share of the royalties etc. I’m reminded of his irritation in Angel, “Not a Eunuch!” he can get laid, it just can’t make him really happy! I’ll wait and see how that part goes, if it seems to fit in. I did kind of have an idea in the back of my mind that Buffy would be off distracted with a mope-a-thon to explain why she wasn’t wondering where Willow was. The German Exchange Student – was a joke about exposition! Honestly, though, with the best part of 25-30 guys to try and give some character too, it’s fine for one of them to be over from the old country. Max Koch it is then. Maybe. I don’t think Willow ever really used Yiddish terms in her speech, maybe it would simply make more sense for her to have a knowledge of German given her high education and time spent doing Scooby gang research in old books requiring an amount of language training. She’s really smart! So far as language goes –I’ve found a lot of readers don’t much care for “gratuitous” foreign languages. If I am not fluent enough myself, I tend to put something in brackets to show a reader it is another language – it was that or have a Japanese character just say Nintendo a lot. Sure , I’m writing the story for your tastes but I can’t write fluently in German! I’d say the best option would be for me to write some dialogue in English translation for Max, but it in brackets, have Willow understand/others confused etc for that effect and then you could simply translate it for your copy of the story – and I can make changes to the English if the sentence structure doesn’t quite ring true. The story is set in December 1998 – how were you passing as a college student 18 years ago? But, no, I’ll totally not write you into it. No real people! No fisting? Well, fair enough, it’d probably be a bit sloppy anyway once she reaches Ginger Goo Girl status. Good thing to mention it as I say above, as fisting is the kind of thing I slip in. To stories. Bondage/Random spank – These do seem the kind of guys who would slap an ass and say “Who’s your Daddy?” don’t they? Hadn’t really thought of including any at all so far as bondage goes, but sure, again variety, if one of the guys has a fantasy about a cuffed girl then this seems the night for him to live it. Then the others tell him to stop being a selfish asshole because they preferred when she had free hands. Ok, think I’ve covered everything, hope my thoughts are clear! ....December, yeah, they’ll have to make sure they don’t leave nude Willow too long for Oz, it gets down even in California. Figure they can leave her with her clothes/purse in a bag and on a thick rug in case he doesn’t show quickly.

I actually quite often have tiny jokes in my stories that would only mean something to one person in a million, like onetime a pun based around Chaucer's use of the word quaint. I don't write real people in though. I did that for one guy, turned out he'd used his real name. And his sister's. And so I just stay away from real person stories. I was just thinking, who better than a German to explain a German term if used! I'll make a note not to include any jokes that rely on stereotypes of Germans "Otto Normalverbraucher whipped out his blutwurst and penetrated Willow with ruthless Teutonic efficiency" Ok that's enough needless offensiveness. Probably best to have a sort of porn-styled sped up training of the gag reflex. A sword swallower can use a sponge on a string to train fairly quickly, but this is a porn fic so can compress it into a night. The guy blow won't even make it into Willow's throat, then when Willow's laid back on the couch with her head over the end someone'll slide on in there until the whole coin purse on the forehead moment. All part of the increasing the intensity throughout the night for what's happening. After a while someone can go until she's quite red in the face - contrast/compare hair etc - and then she'll have time for a bit of panting and catching her breath. I don't want to write the same blow job a dozen times with different guys Can always talk about breathing techniques learned during meditation while practising stilling her mind with training at the magic, too. If only to see if a witch reviews to point out they aren't any good for blowjobs and do not in fact exist. Before turning me into a newt. A certain amount of red/eyes watering is ok for realism and probably as rough as the story will get. I see that different to the stinging though, because it doesn't have to be bad or painful, especially if the story reached a point where she's trusting the guys not to choke her unconscious or do something that makes her fear for her life, while the stinging would be just pain. I'll try and get a bit of a bullet point plan in the next couple of days, and then the first thing after that will be writing the intro. I sometimes write chunks of text to go in later, or move things about, but usually try as much as possible to start at the start with my writing. Edit - I hadn't seen the edit when I did the above - I might be able to fit in something like that! Maybe have a couple guys pretending to stand up for Willow to get a little closer. They aren't that nice, some of them.

I don't know that there's a specific name for that couch type in America, I figure the way to cover it (besides having a German exchange student for exposition) is just to have several couches of variable quality and maybe mention that one as the biggest/deepest. Mention couples have used it as a squashed bed before, something like that. Sounds like the cockwhipping would fit more at the end than the start, especially with them working up to to the first sex. It's not a term I think I'd heard before, but I get what you're meaning about it. Can probably have a couple of guys referenced as pulling out to ejaculate and shaking off against her too earlier on. I haven't actually seen a lot of porn clip trailers! I had a very slow internet connection for many years and so didn't watch a lot of video online. I've seen a few pornos though, so I figure I can cover the whole theme. As a whole I think I'll be approaching this story as more of a porn-film styled take than my usual porn fics. It'll make it a little different to what I've done before. Talking of dripping down the face - semen in the eyes stings a lot and this is aimed at being a physical suffering free fic. I was thinking they could maybe have a little water nearby to wash out Willow's eyes now and again, and while aiming aiming at every other part of her (you always get at least one foot fan) avoiding the eyes. What do you think? Or just gloss over the stinging if you'd prefer. Also - actual cropped screencap without any editing beyond the crop. Because I have a dirty mind.

Never too hard for me, at least I'll probably have to stop and think before I post my next story, it's been about three months the last one already. I really hope this gets more readers, it's pure class!

I figured using a couch. A couple of the skinnier/better hung guys sat side by side, pushing their junk upwards, with Willow kneeling towards/between them, two guys stood up behind, two guys behind the couch having a sword fight in Wilow's mouth, and then two stood/kneeling on either side of the guys on the couch for handjobs. Lots of lube and easing in, and porno logic on stretching. It'd probably come a lot later on in the story, with guys trying to one up each other doing stuff they'd seen or heard about in pornos and Willow being a trooper and going along. A few of them would probably not enjoy so much the physical stimulation of the DVDA all-hands-on-dick as the concept and the sight - because it wouldn't be that easy to thrust properly with the angles needed anyway. That make sense? It's going to be a first gangbang for the freshmen/high school guys, and some of the demons too. An easy wipe leather couch would be essential I figure. Don't want to get it too much into naked Twister territory. "This guy's got a gag cock!" Willow frowned, and asked "What's a gag coMmphh" I've gotta stop wasting creativity on joke dialogue. Moving on. I suppose the terminology the guys use will depend on their own personalities as you've commented early. Some won't say much at all. Jonathan wouldn't say anything degrading unless twisted into it, one might even start joking around with silly over the top terms, but it wouldn't be in seriousness, just to see if he could make Willow laugh with her mouth full, say. Someone like Parker who is a total asshole would probably just dump a load and then leave to meet the next girl he's got a date with and tell her he loves her. One guy, hell, it might be his first time beyond third base, but most of them will need a decent level of experience at least so that they keep Willow well stimulated too. Rather than keeping track of how many times they come, it might even be a nice twist for them to try and keep track of Willow's. On a tangent, given your list of acceptable fluids, would that put a porn-tastic "squirting" scene out of the picture? For filming/close ups - Handicams and a few 35mm cameras for stills, maybe one digital camera. I won't get into the technical side too much. Hey, they can get Jonathan to help them edit the footage afterwards! Make it more professional looking, since there won't be many AV club guys there One thing I'll try and do once we've got the ideas talked out is write out a bullet point run of what order the bigger set pieces are going in, should stop things getting mixed up when I start to write.

Thanks for the language guidance there - if any terminology makes it into the first draft that you don't like I can always change it anyway, but it's good to get an idea before I start. The thing is Willow's terminology probably would be more like Pippi's, at least until she learned some more. Well, Willow likes learning so I'm sure the frat guys can teach her! I just looked it up, seems like Warren was over at tech college in Dutton after a single semester at Sunnydale, so safely out the way. I figure there's enough sex to do without bringing him in just for character bashing Jonathan got a huge ego boost in the episode Superstar! I might use Parker as well he was probably a Freshman that year, since he's disparaging about 'em the next year. I don't usually add sound effects of the *slap* variety and I don't tend to write out a lot of grunts either just because it comes across as repetitive and mostly isn't all that close to real sound anyway. I'll try and put in some for the request though! Actually, the occasional convoluted circumlocution is also kind of my style, but again I can knock it out if you don't like it in the first draft. I just figured the ghost guy could basically appear as non-corporeal except for the dildo! Not sure if it would work. The other idea is a self moving idea - everybody is having a rest so they leave Willow with a couple of magic sex toys. Willow likes magic!

Spoiled Meat review - and I just realised that Killer Croc is going to be in the awesome looking new Suicide Squad movie, so I wonder if that'll generate more reader interest on this comic-version of the character story. Funnily enough, the actor playing him in the movie has described him as "a cannibal with rage issues" which does rather fit the story characterisation... anyhoo... Thank you for this review! You don't owe me anything I on the other hand owe you a story! I've pretty much always gone for the cervix as "if someone's hitting it, it's going to fucking hurt" here it's emphasising Croc's monstrous nature that he physically breaks her and eventually tears into her guts. It's anatomically dodgy, but so is Killer Croc! I suppose if I write vile horrible pornography it ought at least to flow well! Thank you again for your review!

I'd never even considered that! *surreptitiously puts speculum and enema kit back in toy box and makes shooing motions at the pre-med frat boy characters* I mean, if they can't get some gaping going with... uh, digits and phalli then they aren't trying. To avoid any offence to passing readers with this being on the forum I'll try to use more technical terms too. No, no, no, I didn't mean tallymarks with cutting, this is a totally gore free story, I was thinking with marker pens, that's why I put it after bodywriting, kind of a sub-catagory - I don't think I've used it in a story myself, but as I said I've been thinking over gangbang tropes that can be used in any fresh ways. If you do find a story on AFF that doesn't have needed warnings, and don't feel like politely raising it with the author or they don't listen, then raise it with one of the moderators and they'll raise it with the author. They're good at stuff like that and I think there is an adult baby tag too. With the suggested title I wasn't meaning Baby like an adult or other baby, but in the slightly sleazy "Gimme some sugar, baby" type way a frat boy who is also a Bruce Campbell fan might say, as a take on Oz's "Dingos Ate My Baby" band name (which was likely obvious, but I don't know if they translated that differently or whatver!). Hmmm... with the rimming, maybe "Dude-bros ate my baby's asshole" might even work. If I do write in Jonathan I was thinking of giving him the largest male genitive organ, like everybody's having a laugh 'cos he's got a mouthful of Willow's anal orifice and presumably whatever seminal fluid is dripping off and then sudden someone yanks his pants down and holy shit he's like an advert for subway. With extra mayo. And the previous biggest guy at 9inches is suddenly on his knees pulling a "We're not worthy! We're not worthy!". But no ridiculous size male organs, and I probably won't be giving too many specific measurements anyway, unless it really fits an especially gratuitous bit of porn style writing. I wasn't planning on using Warren, but Jonathan was a character in S3 and could easily have been on campus to visit someone from the year above who went there to play with their D&D group or something. On his way back, Percy West sees him out the window and has the idea of blindfolding him and getting him in to orally stimulate Willow's previously penetrated posterior passage in a typical example of jock/nerd social interaction. Percy's more academically minded Uncle Herbert would not approve. How about a magic dildo, possessed by a former frat brother who sadly died pulling an epic prank? Or maybe just had a heart attack from an undiscovered congenital heart defect while committing an act of self-abuse over an erotic spell book. Too silly? I'm just throwing porn at the wall here to see what sticks, to paraphrase Cave Johnson. On the length - except for the prompt fics, I don't write stories to set lengths, but thinking on things I've done in the past that seems about what it will come to. That said, a previous 10-on-one gangbang story I wrote was around 9000 words (Over!). So when it gets going it could be longer, but probably not three times the length. On virginity - Since it's a blood free story, no hymen tearing or whatnot and she'll be aroused enough that as long as the guy eases in there won't be internal tearing. I figure the first organ might get slipped in before she realises it's going too and then, no use crying over spilt semen. Might be interesting to have her not know who the first guy is, due someone in front of her face, if you follow. Another thing I try and ask for requests which some people have an answer too and some don't - Are there any words in porn that a total mood killer for you, and any you particularly enjoy seeing? Like, if one of the frat guys is giving a bit of commentary on what he's doing, during an attempt at dialogue, would it kill your arousal if he said muff or "her flower" (Thanks Monica) That kind of thing. Or should it just be come or can guys/narration refer to jizz/spooge/spunk/Coors Light/semen/baby batter etc etc And some readers find spefic terms very hot. And feel free to toss in as many more ideas/comments as you like, I'm not pressured. It only becomes an issue when a story is nearly finished and then someone says "Can you also show X" which would be like, a massive re-write or 5000 extra words. One requester did that and actually got pissy when I said no. I will let you know when I am started on first draft - I'm PM you chunks of text rather than post on forum because of the rules around that, but you can always comment here. OK, running out of time again and it looks like I have a review to reply too, so I'll sign off again. Thanks for talking all this stuff out, it can be a pain to do a request if you don't know what someone likes - especially if it gets to posting stage and only then they're like "No, wait, that character blows. And not in a good way."

Now's probably a good time to mention I am a very slow writer, so unlikely to be finished by the end of the week - as an example, the last Mortal Kombat story I did took nine months, still once the plan is in place it becomes chipping away at it, and this shouldn't be that long. I think I can manage around 10000 words, probably split into a couple of parts (first part ending with Willow naked), but that is still very rough at this stage. And also, on way of speaking, my weak point is dialogue. I'll try for Buffy-speak and whedonesque phrasing, but that may be the weaker side. I can probably cover for it by having Willow's mouth full a lot. OK, pornstar levels of semen - I figure it's gonna be easy enough to use a little demonic influence in Sunnydale, but not necessarily violent/nasty demonic influence, "So you're like a good demon? bringing the come in?" to paraphrase a later episode.... A mixture of humans and demons is fine, because a lot of demons aren't especially bad - like Clem or Doyle from Angel. Might even have the human frat guys being the bad influence on them, so maybe even the reason the high school guys were sent for a girl was because their buddies in the frat had had some demon potion supposed to make 'em last longer but it was more effective than expected and they had to unload a lot fast and it was that or fill every sock on campus. That'd work, and again with the "stops abbrasions/soreness" side effect means no physical harm for Willow besides maybe loss of appetite (since she'll be well fed) and tiredness for a few days. Still gets the rape tag though, because the very second someone touches her it's over that line, and it's not gonna end up with her loving all the guys or suddenly a bimbo slut or something. On the other hand, with 25-30 guys (it might be a variable number, coming and going [/some pun intended] to keep Willow busy, they don't really need instant recharge or the guy who yelled "Shotgun asshole!" would be there all night, what with it being porn and all. Blow a load, grab a beer, play some original Playstation, come back to rub one out over her tits... actually, Willow liked computer stuff, could definitely have a scene where she's playing say Tekken 3 against someone while double penetrated. And winning Come feeding - At least one thing a frat can be relied upon to have is beer bongs. And the best thing is they can use them for new pledge hazing for years afterwards. What are you thinking on the general hygiene level of the guys - I figure to the start of the evening they, like Willow, would be pretty clean and fresh for the most part with everyone getting a little sweaty towards the end of the night. Some folks like less clean participants in the gangbang though, so I can do either. Lots of come does have a bit of a smell though. dafdes - I kind of like that point on the early character, "You did the nasty with 30 guys?" "I was being polite!" "Yeah, like a British Ambassador!" I might even find I can do an expanded versions of that specific outline on the come display you've got there too if it seems to flow well enough when I'm actually writing - with appropriate credit and your permission of course if it is a total expansion. It might be nice to finally use the expression "fucked goofy" and not have Disney on my ass. I'll have a few more things to ask, I think, to check what you prefer on different things, other tropes that tend to turn up in this kind of fic which I can try and put a different spin on. Like bodywriting, or tallymarks, or how you'd prefer the story to treat Willow's virginity or possibility or pregnancy or like any shame over all the orgasms or more "Ooh! this is neat!" kind of thing. Because I know a lot of folks have different ideas on what they like, and I figure when I do a request I need to try and get it as close as possible to what the requester likes! Which, actually, is sometimes as scary as hell and leaves me shivering and afraid. But not this time! So, yeah, prep stage, still be a while before there's more than bare bones on it though. Thanks loads for your and dafdes further thoughts.