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  1. Please do not under any circumstances delete my account. For all the people who wish to have their accounts deleted due to the “extended denial of service” attack the AFF Archives have suffered, “you do you.” I would encourage you to not have your accounts deleted just the same. Abandoning your accounts or having them deleted serves only to empower the spineless CARB sewage-quaffers who are attacking this site to continue doing so. There are damned few sites that allow erotic and semi/demi-erotic literature to be posted full-stop. Allowing one to fail due to a lack of authorship means that there is one fewer site, without anyone lining up to start another one. Good luck to all of you, whatever you decide.
    6 points
  2. BronxWench

    what is going on?

    Hi, We’re still in read-only mode, so it isn’t you. We’re working as fast as we can to get things back up and running. We’re doing a massive behind-the-scenes cleanup of anything that might hamper the reopening of the site. Once that’s done, stay tuned for updates on what will come next as we get AFF back to business as usual.
    5 points
  3. From my experience: MMF (implies there will be m/m sexual contact) while MFM (implies there is no m/m contact). I have two throuple fics, one with m/m interaction(labeled MMF) and one without (labeled MFM) so I’m think it would hold the same connotation for your category: MFM (if there is no female/female sexual contact and they’re merely sharing the male) or MFF (if the two women will be sexually interacting). Go with whatever you feel is appropriate of course, this is just my anecdotal opinion, but that’s how I’ve always read the order and I don’t think I’ve ever read a threesome that didn’t follow that pattern. Never read a MFM that had M/M and vice versa.
    4 points
  4. BronxWench

    Status Update

    From my side of things, I can report that we have completed just over 80% of the duplicate account clean-up process. I’m hoping, barring any more unexpected interruptions, to get that done this week. It’s time-consuming, but our concern is to not lose anyone’s data as we merge those multiple accounts using the same email address. Fortunately, making more than one account using the same email address is no longer possible, so it's a finite pool of accounts to review. We very much appreciate everyone’s patience—we have the best members!
    4 points
  5. I came across this tidbit whilst surfing: https://www.themarysue.com/publishing-house-plush-books-accused-of-stealing-dozens-of-fanfiction-works/ It looks like the alleged publisher is scraping stories from FFN and AO3, but since many of our authors also publish on those sites, I thought it might be worth posting this. It’s astonishing how low some folks will go.
    3 points
  6. This comment alone made me laugh far harder than it should.
    3 points
  7. “Money attracts lawyers” is a useful adage. So even if a person finds a magical trick to legally make money out of fanfiction, its unlikely to break even with all the legal fees as they get sued by those corporate lawyers. And there’s always the risk that court cases might generally outlaw fanfiction too (unless the original author explicitly gives permission). Because fanfiction is in that gray zone, it’s better for EVERYBODY to charge nothing, and keep it free – don’t be the jerk that ruins it for all. However, it’s worse with plush books, as it appears they’re STEALING the stories too, simple theft, and rebranding it as their own. Though I wonder if we should all respond by making sure that every fanfic out there is at least 5 million words...kill ‘em with printing fees.
    3 points
  8. I did take the time to look over the spreadsheet prepared by some intrepid folks, and the bulk of the works were scraped from FFN and AO3. There was nothing that was linked directly to AFF, which just goes to show that writing smut pays off in peculiar ways. My biggest concern is that many of our members cross-post stories here and on other sites, so it’s likely that someone from AFF is going to have a fic stolen. @GeorgeGlass is dealing with someone reposting his work and that of other AFF authors on a site where it looks like the poster might actually get paid for those bits of theft. What’s worse with this Plush Books situation is that fan fiction exists in a gray area of copyright law that allows the use of copyrighted material for certain purposes as long as the user doesn’t make any money from the work. The only one entitled to make any money is the owner of the copyrighted material, period. Plush Books is stealing from the copyright owner, and putting the very existence of fan fiction at risk. The oddest thing of all is that I first heard about this from the blog of a published author, Martha Wells, who writes the insanely good Murderbot novels. She mentioned it on her blog, and when I saw the article from The Mary Sue, I was appalled. But I was also kind of glad to see a NYTimes bestselling author standing up for fan fiction writers.
    3 points
  9. One trick I do is to take a snippet of my stories, run them through google (with “” around it), see what comes up in the search results..
    3 points
  10. Dear gods. You need to report this to WebNovel: dmca@webnovel.com I recommend including links to the stories here on AFF as well as your profile links showing dates of initial posting of the stories in question. He’s got your damned name on the “cover” of his story, ffs. He’s not even shy about being a thief. I’m not finding that pen name here on AFF, sadly, or I’d kick his sorry ass off my archive.
    3 points
  11. Maybe I’m being optimistic about writers and their ability to get things done, but this occurred to me. Because the site has been down for a while, some of us have written a bunch of stuff. We might have a lot of content to post. There’s the possibility that a bunch of people will want to post new stuff. Should we try and not to add too much for the site initially?
    3 points
  12. Whenever The Pit decides to enforce its mature content rules, we get bombarded with new members, and hundreds of new stories daily. The archive can handle it, and I’m going to be exploring recruiting additional moderators since I seem to have misplaced most of the current ones. (And now @Desiderius Price hurries to find a good hiding place… )
    3 points
  13. Desiderius Price

    Read-Only

    Unfortunately it’s been a bit of a battle with the attacker… the two times I’m aware of the coder *trying* to bring the code live, the attacker repeats their attack and we’re left with our website redirecting visitors to unsavory locations on the internet. Crossing my fingers the third time’s the charm for our coder.
    3 points
  14. BronxWench

    Still Down?

    Be patient with us just a bit longer. We’re nearly done with the massive clean-up project we’ve been doing behind the scenes, which will allow us to begin to reopen the site in stages. We’ll be announcing information about that as soon as we begin the process. Trust me, we ALL want the site up and running again!
    3 points
  15. I would love to strangle whomever in HR came up with the less is more policy. Running skeleton crews is not how one runs a customer service based business.
    3 points
  16. I’d upvote that comment if I could. No, don’t give up.
    2 points
  17. Unless a fandom has a pairing that I have, or am currently obsessing over, I don’t have any interest in writing for other fandoms, generally or pornographic-wise. I’m tunnel vision locked on to the otp that’s staying rent free in my mind. Not finding what I want really fuels my drive to write. If my fav fandom is not writing the things I want to read, I just go and write them myself. This is what really sparked me to write fanfiction to be honest, too many stories that wrote about the mechanics of sex but forgot the human aspect of it. I got tired of reading, rather than experiencing the story. Felt like robots inserting parts rather than living beings with feelings, intimacy and emotion based carnal hungers having sex, and there wasn’t much about the BDSM lifestyle outside exaggerated Fifty Shade of Grey nonsense, so I had to at least try and add my two cents 😁 and don’t even get me started on the lack of NaruHinaSasu content 😢
    2 points
  18. @Wilde_Guess Oh I wasn’t necessarily saying that I am different from fanfiction writers in general. I was more responding to @GeorgeGlass’s comment about how they tend to focus on animated TV rather than live action. I don’t do real people fanfic at all. What I meant is that for instance, I’m a Beronica fan in the Riverdale fandom, and Lili Reinhart and Camila Mendes who play those characters in the TV show have done a few photo shoots together. Not to mention social media posts where they are doing behind the scenes stuff. Any time I see them together, I think about one of the plot bunnies or partial stories I plan on writing. Like you, this isn’t my real name that I’m using, obviously. I use this one for my sexual stories and my real name for the more plot based stuff, not to mention my original content. I’m hopeful that my original content, both fiction and non-fiction, will be commercially successful. Though I have been thinking about the possibility of being discovered to have written stuff on here. Mostly because I used to use this name many years ago on a now defunct website and occasionally I did have my real name come up thanks to how the site worked.
    2 points
  19. This is beyond horrible that this “publishing house” got away with as much as they did. In a fanfic or “derived work,” there are two entities who deserve credit and payment for the work; the author of the “original” work or universe, and the author of the derived/fanfiction work. Full stop. With original fiction, the sole entity entitled to credit and payment is the author of the work. Doing what “Plush House” did is theft, pure and simple. They should be criminally charged for it, and if convicted at trial should have everything taken from them. There is certainly some legal doubt on who should be paid for fanfiction written without a license issued in advance by the original content creator. However, there is no doubt that whomever should get the money, “Plush House” is not and never was it. For the original works, there’s no doubt at all whatsoever. Many people here have either received stacks of form-rejection letters personally, at least looked into vanity publishing, or both; and the rest of us have read of your travails in these forum posts. Plush House have stolen. They are thieves. If they had stuck to cook books, then perhaps they could have made money quietly from the “Internet semi-lazy.” Just get someone with a spatula and a word processor for editing and pizazz, and have at it. Hell, I could have worked for them doing that, at least with some cuisine types. If you publish it on the Internet, it isn’t really a “secret recipe” any more. And, a talented cook and writer can change it up just enough to call it their own. If you know how to cook, I’ve already posted a “secret recipe” in passing, and it’s just waiting to be made in your kitchen. But, being the lazy over-achievers they allegedly are, they didn’t even bother to get releases or even offer token payment. A plague upon their [publishing] house!
    2 points
  20. Hi, Deadman and all. You aren’t feeling nearly as opposite as you might think. Fanfiction by its very nature is the fanfic author telling a story the original author didn’t see fit to tell, however much of the original author’s universe you preserve in your own. Likewise, if you read a fanfic where the author took too many liberties in their own storytelling, that can also inspire you to pick up the pen as you’ve done. You’re not the only one to start writing fanfiction as a defense against fanfiction that didn’t quite do the job for you. When specifically writing erotic or pornographic fanfic literature, you (or any author) needs to overcome their own internal limits in order to make their writing readable. Your own personal “internal challenges” differ from others’ only in the details. In order to write readable prose, you must be emotionally attached to your characters, and cannot write well if you are not; whether writing erotic literature, pornographic literature, or non-erotic literature. If you’re connected with your characters and your story, you have a greater chance of connecting with the reader. Likewise, if you’re already fully connected with your reader, such as Wilbert Audrey when he first started writing the Thomas the Tank Engine series, you will quickly connect with your characters if you’re any good at all. If you imagination doesn’t go “far enough” to be able to form a “live” image from a manga, anime, or cartoon drawing of a character, that’s fine. You still have plenty to write about. Likewise, if you can’t figure out where all the “extra tentacles” go, that’s also fine. Usagi-Chan is extremely grateful for that, even if some potential readers might be disappointed. Your imagination for what you choose to imagine should be more than sufficient to entertain your readers. If it isn’t, the “next” key works just as well for them as it does for you. And if it really works for them, there is Patreon and Ko-fi, if you can’t quite go mainstream with your writing. “Wilde Guess” isn’t even my “regular” nom de plume. I use it mostly for any writing I do that is sexually explicit, erotic, homoerotic, etc. As for your reason to start writing fanfiction, that’s really close to why I started Third Time’s A Soul Bond. I was totally and thoroughly sick of poorly written, unexplainable-in-canon, and frankly insane slash pairings in HP fanfiction. Seeing very few examples of “semi-logical” slash parings, I created this pen-name just to write that story. On “St. Elsewhere.net,” it’s actually the longest story with that particular pairing. I’ve received fewer reviews on the entire story than a single chapter of the “typical” SS/DM spit-roast of the Boy Who Lived. Oh, well... Riding the Lincoln Way was originally a one shot to cleanse the mental palate from some “train-wreck-bad” “spank-kink” junk I’d encountered in passing. But instead of just posting the junk, I started asking questions. That’s never a smart thing when you expected less than five thousand words total, and thus have no outline to defend yourself from the plot bunnies putting on harness and towing your story out to places you never thought it would go. Hey Joe was the continuation in both directions of two throw-away example scene snippets I wrote in a forum post. Once again, no “outline shield.” To answer @GeorgeGlass’s post directly: I agree with 1. and 3. completely, except for if I’m writing a crack/bash/parody, then 1. will be broken by the very nature of what I’m writing. 2. doesn’t bother me so much. When I’m writing fiction, I envision the fictional character exclusively, even if the character was portrayed in film or television. In the Potterverse, I write about Ron Weasley, Harry Potter, Severus Snape, etc; not Rupert Grint, Daniel Radcliffe, or Alan Rickman. Likewise if my original fiction has historical or modern real people characters, they will never be “main” characters, and anything they do do will either be their historical actions, or non-defamatory actions they would likely have logically taken had the entire story been real life. So, if a group of musically talented kids get some help from a real-life rock star, that’s because had the kids existed in real life, the rock star in question would have helped them. Of course, if I need a fictional character to hold a real-life position somewhere, “Mr. Real Life” never existed, and the fictional character will not resemble “Mr. Real Life” in any way at all whatsoever other than having turfed them out of their jobs and (fictional) existence. This, of course, is just one of many challenges when you insert fictional characters into real-life locations and times, and why its done, but done very very sparingly on the commercial front. But it can be done without legal or other life-changing adverse consequences, as can be witnessed to by Mario Puzo or Allen Drury. Cheers!
    2 points
  21. I’ve generally felt the opposite. I started writing fanfic because I read a fanfic that was AU to the canon. The only real criticism I had was that it wasn’t canon, so I wrote an in canon version of the story. Also, I prefer live action stuff to animated stuff. I’m too emotionally detached from animated characters to really get into anything. Especially if it’s sexual in nature. It helps to have a visual reference for the characters. Several of the actors involved in my fandoms (mainly Buffy, Riverdale, etc.) have done sexy photoshoots either with their fellow actors from the show or just generally. So that gets me thinking about stuff they could do together.
    2 points
  22. So, when you write these, you’ll let me know, yes? Because either of these might be the only way to get me to read anything in those fandoms.
    2 points
  23. For me, it was simply impatience… i was impatient for JKR to release book 5 (at the time), and impatience for a potter fanfic author to continue their story. I had a list of ideas that brewed on how that fanfic should continue, and I decided to play with those ideas, a narrative formed, and I was hooked on creative writing. I’m still working on my sequel (the million word one), one that’s so different from the above, that I’d have to rename one main character to bring it here to this archive (but alas, it felt wrong when I attempted that). Otherwise, I prefer playing in my originals… so many things to play with.
    2 points
  24. WillowDarkling

    Add Story?

    No, the Archives are still in read only mode so users cannot upload their stories at this time. Willow Darkling, forum moderator.
    2 points
  25. I posted the final chapter of “Smooshed” on AO3 a couple of days ago. The reaction to that and to chapter 1 of “Out of Hand” has been substantial, which is delightful. Less delightful was some news I got the other day: My friend Lady Freelove let me know that my story “The Power Arcane” was plagiarized and published on Webnovel.com under the plagiarist’s name. I created an account there and reported it; we’ll see what, if anything, comes of that. On the writing front, I now have 3 priorities: the final chapter of “Depravity Falls,” chapter 2 of “Out of Hand,” and the final story of “The Power Arcane.” Which doesn’t mean that I’m not also working on a bunch of other stuff.
    2 points
  26. Writing fanfiction was the “gateway drug” that got me hooked on the fun creative writing, which did lead to creating original works. Now that I’ve returned to fanfiction (with the explicit goal of finishing my unfinished fanfic) my experience with originals has allowed me to make that fanfic better. As an example, I’ve added some extra characters that are really better rounded IMO than canon, and allow me to have a viewpoint that was missing before. (Also the willingness to dabble more in smut helps )
    2 points
  27. my coach is so fricking mad because my Team lead approved me for tomorrow and friday off to help my mom with her first eye surgery. my Team lead tried to get me to come in tuesday but i said no! so I got 4 days off this week, and then deal with 3 days of work cuz of inventory then vacation! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
    2 points
  28. I try. I wasn’t so much saying that the mods should somehow intervene. It’s more wondering if it makes sense to be judicial about things. If 200 people login the second it’s available, all of them posting at the same time, can the archive handle that? Probably not going to happen but it might be good to think about.
    2 points
  29. And I was grateful for the help! Let’s just say I hope the next step doesn’t involve anything like the merge and purge.
    2 points
  30. Okay, three big pieces of news: Chapter 1 of “Out of Hand” is now posted on AO3. I just send the 18th and final chapter of “Smooshed” off to beta. The great merge-and-purge of AFF’s duplicate accounts is now finished. @BronxWenchdid, like, 90% of it, but I’m glad to have helped a little. This puts AFF a step closer to getting out of read-only mode.
    2 points
  31. Thank you for that. We had to implement the 10 line rule in the Requests and Challenges forum, because of the disclaimer and copyright issues, but haven’t really needed to enforce it elsewhere. But I figured that little previews could be allowed while we’re in Read only mode. I’ll have to add that rule to the Forum TOS eventually.
    2 points
  32. I’m unfortunately going to have to ask you to reduce the amount of story content in the above post. We can’t allow story content in the forums, due to disclaimer and copyright issues. But, because of the archives being down, we will allow story content of up to 35 lines (instead of the usual 10 lines) of text. That means lines of text, so if a sentence needs a line or two extra to finish then that’s fine. So, please reduce the story content above to within that limit. Willow Darkling, forum moderator.
    2 points
  33. Ditto… Yep. I’ve seen other other writing (& self-pub) websites, lots will claim openness, but reading the TOSs and there’s a ton of restrictions that more or less deny reality, imply a sex-less “utopia” is upon us.
    2 points
  34. BronxWench

    Read-Only

    The clean-up is very nearly done (7 pages left of what was 109 pages of duplicate/triplicate/multiple accounts under a single email). Once we’ve finished that, manta can move to the next step. I absolutely appreciate the offers of help—you all are wonderful! It’s been a long road, but knowing that AFF has the best members of any fiction archive makes it easier, so a rousing thank you to you all!
    2 points
  35. Login, then logout and reset password via forgot password. If you can’t log in, you need to e-mail tos_team@adult-fanfiction.org with the e-mail address for your account, and they will send an authorization link you will need to click before forgot password / password reset will work.
    2 points
  36. Not to brag, but I am enjoying the fact that while waiting for the site to come back up, I’m writing a lot. I just finished the last chapter of a 7 part story. Now working on a few others. Wondering about how people would feel if while we wait for the site to come back up, I could post here about it, teasing a few details of the stories. But maybe that’s bragging and people don’t want to hear about it. Thoughts?
    2 points
  37. The final chapter of “Augmented” is now posted on AO3. Many thanks to @GrayNekofor his thorough and insightful beta reading.
    2 points
  38. Hi MorbidFantasy, I doubt there is an IT department as such - AFF is a fan site with people volunteering their time, rather than a professional website. I wouldn't expect them to be working through Christmas/New years.
    2 points
  39. I can’t say for sure, but our coder, @manta2g may have disabled logins as part of the clean-up project we’re doing. We’re at a point where we’re doing a massive clean-up of duplicate (and triplicate) accounts from before the last major code rewrite. There were over 5,000 accounts to be checked, and it needs to be done manually so we don’t lose any data from those duplicate accounts. Once we’ve gotten that done, our amazing coder, @manta2g, can begin the process of emailing all members so they can verify their email addresses and reset their passwords as Phase One of the unlocking process.
    2 points
  40. Have you tried changing it here too, or just the archives? The archive side is still in “read only” mode, so you can’t change it there. You should be able to change it here, though. Good luck.
    1 point
  41. I can’t help but wonder if it was that ChatBot AI thing learning how to write like all of us...
    1 point
  42. Its either a single sentence, or a few thousand words no inbetween.
    1 point
  43. RPGs as a whole, have the issue where the player is, effectively, a mary sue/gary stu in the storyline. Nobody can resolve anything, find anything, without you getting involved. And as you level up, your character gains strength/ability to the point you’re a tank, or master sniper, and can take on any opponent. Spoiler for Fallout-4 Automatron DLC… the mechanist had the best line when they’re telling the player, “I’m trying to stop the worst threat to the commonwealth, and that threat is YOU.” I had to admit when I first heard that, how true it was… the player character is, ultimately so overpowered, especially having the power of quick saves & loads to overcome any obstacle.
    1 point
  44. Congrats, that’s good work to write 800k! Single digits...that’s my rate
    1 point
  45. Back in the day, on the old Bioware forums, there was a thread called “The Shirtless Saga.” It birthed many a fanfic.
    1 point
  46. Yes. As a fellow “Moonie”, I have written SM fanfics for a long time. It got to a point where my characters were starting to be OOC and the plot lines were becoming more intense that I stepped back and decided I needed to charge the direction of my work. While I enjoy working with the canons I grew to love, sometimes it’s nice to leave the nest and fly. If you’re still around, I’d love to know how your development continued and if you’re going to start a magic girl series.
    1 point
  47. As one of the archive moderators for the past few years, thank you for your support and your wonderful post! As one of the writers on the site, albeit sporadically these days, AFF’s been a haven for me as well, and I’m grateful for it every day.
    1 point
  48. As the forum moderator, I want to thank you, very much for your kind words, and I am so happy that the sites have been a help in troubled times. I decided to pin your post for the time being, so it will remain at the top of the forum, so our hardworking archive moderators, our admin and the rest of the crew can see it. Thank you, again, for such lovely words. Willow Darkling, forum moderator.
    1 point
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