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1 hour ago, Desiderius Price said:
I’ve not gone through the editorial process, does seem that AI can definitely assist as you identify. I’m guessing it’ll make further inroads into the process… full takeover? Maybe, maybe not. With time, I suspect that even the better-with-human traits will be bundled into an AI, and the self-pubs will lean on that. After all, AI doesn’t have to do it better, simply has to do it cheaper.
Mice needed the sentience and fjords for the ultimate question AI … which of course was “what’s six times nine?” (Which is 42 in base-13.)
An AI will never provide the insight of a human editor, who can identify what human readers will want to read. It’s pretty basic, actually. Spell checkers and grammar checkers, no matter how sophisticated, can’t read for content like a human. What you’re thinking about is the proofreading stage, which comes at the very end of the process, after the editor and author have beaten that gruesome draft into something resembling a real book.
(And even then, the author can overrule the proofreader because conversation is not grammatically perfect, after all.)
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I’m not entirely sure AI could ever replace editors.
Until I went through the editorial process, I had only a rudimentary understanding of what was involved. There’s a huge amount of work beyond the simple grammar and spelling check, and looking for overuse of common words. A really great editor gets into your character’s heads, and will question you about why a character did something, when it seems like they might have been more inclined to do this other thing. Or they will spot chronological issues, or perhaps they just want to comment that they found a particular bit you wrote to be emotionally powerful. Whatever it is, AI can’t do that for you because it requires sentience and emotional involvement, neither of which AI possesses at present.
And the mice would like you to know that it took sentience in their test subjects to arrive at that answer. And fjords.
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I have to say that I’m not a fan of throwing copyright out the window, which is really what deep fake is. If Grimes wants to explicitly allow deep fakes of her voice, that’s her privilege, but I don’t think it’s even remotely alright to assume everyone who creates art, music, or written work is fine with being deep faked.
Since I write for publication, I tend to focus on that, and it makes me extremely uncomfortable that someone would feel entitled to profit off what I’ve created. The majority of writers don’t earn enough to support themselves exclusively by writing. We’re not all NYTimes bestseller listed, or snapped up by the increasingly small number of large presses. We get a small enough slice of the pie as it is without having to worry about someone deciding to use AI to write a book using our characters, or settings, and taking our sliver of market share away from us.
It also begs the question of why anyone would prefer to have AI write for them. For me, much of the joy and satisfaction of writing is putting the words together and creating a phrase, or a sentence, or a paragraph that resonates. I like to find cadence, and play with language. Why would I give that over to an AI program? I’d be ashamed to call myself a writer if I didn’t actually write what I put out there, either for sale of for free on a site like AFF.
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4 hours ago, Guest NSeven said:
I suppose this may be relevant, but when editing a story’s chapter, everything works as intended, but when editing the story’s description or tags and such, the edits do not get saved.
There are still a few functions that remain disabled, and this appears to be one of them. It will be addressed, I promise!
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1 hour ago, Guest amk said:
Trying to reset password, but still not working: https://members.adult-fanfiction.org/profile.php?no=1296950886
I’ve emailed you new activation and password reset links.
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2 hours ago, Guest Kula said:
I’m having the same problem, I just found the email that was sent way back in January so I understand it no longer being valid. Could you please send me another link. My email is kulamt@msn.com
Thank you,
Patti
I’ve emailed you the activation and passwords rest links, which should get you access to your account again.
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17 hours ago, Guest death lingers said:
not seeing the activation thing and ive tried to change my password which worked but its not letting me sign in
I’ve emailed you new activation and password reset links, which should clear up the problem.
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14 hours ago, Guest TheHealer said:
I've been having trouble trying to log in and it keeps saying that the link is no longer valid. What do I do about that??
My profile is TheHealer: https://members.adult-fanfiction.org/profile.php?no=1296941034
I’ve emailed you new links to activate your account and reset the password.
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Hi, and welcome back!
On the archive home page, if you click the three bars on the upper left corner, it opens a dropdown menu. Click on your name, and you should see two options: Edit Profile and Logout. Click on Edit Profile and it opens your profile. We have a FAQ that explains it.
The Story How-To’s FAQ has been updated for the new software as well, but we’re always happy to answer any questions you have.
The Member Directory lives in the Site option of the menu on the archive home page. Click the three bars, click on Site, and then click the little magnifying glass icon to the right of the Member Directory link to search for a specific pen name, or just click Member Directory to go to the A-Z listings.
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The forum does have the option to change themes. There is a dropdown at the very bottom of the forum page. Black Chrome is a dark mode theme, which might help.
The archive, however, does not have a dark mode option at this time.
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I’m not seeing a category in either Games or Manga. I’m also not seeing any stories for that fandom on a general search of those subdomains.
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Link for anyone else who might want to read this:
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2 hours ago, Guest ImpMasquerade said:
I am trying to log back into my account.
I’ve emailed you the links to activate your account and reset your password.
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43 minutes ago, Guest Carsonis said:
Sigh, and now it seems to work. Thanks for checking and sorry to waste your time
I’m glad it’s working, and it’s never a waste of time to check. The new archive software is something we’re al getting used to, so I’m happy to help where I can.
And welcome to AFF!
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28 minutes ago, Guest Carsonis said:
Greetings,
I made a new account, am prompted to verify email to activate it and the link immediately went invalid
https://members.adult-fanfiction.org/activate.php?x=1297012964&y=5f75412d3b8110833601b516b5883ea5
I’m showing you in the database as activated and registered. Have you tried logging in?
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2 hours ago, Desiderius Price said:
I’m on the fence, with the thought we should stick to what we have, that the uploading member asserts that it’s a product of their authorship, their creativity, simply because there will be levels of “AI assistance” that’s between zero and full writing.
For instance, when I’m creating a character, I will typically use random generators to assist as I’m terrible with blank sheets of paper. So having a modest list of random names, traits, hobbies, etc to choose between helps me focus, helps me define that character faster. Is that AI assistance? Spelling & grammar checkers are getting better, incorporating AI into them, and SUGGESTING improvements that’d be AI-based. I can also see AI creeping into developmental, copy, & line editing, helping the human write their book better. How about AI creating background material for stories? Like news paper articles, pictures, and the like?
AI’s only as good as it’s training set of data. If I train an AI up on JKR’s works to help with my potter fanfic, well, I’m already infringing her copyright on Harry Potter by writing a potter fanfic, what’s a little extra AI assistance? Similarly, if I train an AI up on my existing original works, there’s no copyright issue if I leverage that to write more of my stories, faster.
What if AI’s the only way for G.R.R to finish his book? (Or done posthumously.)
I think there’s an enormous difference between using AI in the background to help you flesh out a setting or character, and using AI to actually write content. The nature of AI, as most of us non-coders will experience it, is a commercial program that uses the Internet to source its output. AI is not capable (at least not yet) of thinking creatively. It responds to a series of parameters, and it isn’t concerned with where it gets its response as much as with the level of conformity to the parameters.
Eight million years ago, before we all had an inkling that the Internet would exist and when we still typed on manual typewriters, in a freshman writing class, we were asked to write an essay. The professor had made a point of mentioning a book he wrote (several times) in the course of the discussion on what we were expected to write. So, I went to the library and took out his book, read it, and wrote my essay in his voice. I used the same sentence compositions, vocabulary, and style of presentation. I did not use any of his actual writing, merely copied his style of writing. And as a result, I got an A+ for the semester, and was recommended to work on the school paper in lieu of having to take his class. Had I been an AI, i would most likely have included actual sentences or sentence fragments cribbed from his book, but as a human, I knew better.
Do I think AI could finish GRR’s book? Absolutely not. AI isn’t capable of the human touch. It doesn’t understand emotions, or even physicality. It’s not a “real” writer despite its alleged sophistication. It’s a good tool if used in the background, but not more than that.
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3 hours ago, Guest SWK said:
Salutations…
I can’t re-validate my account, every time I try to reset the password, I do get an Email, but the link is always broken and ends up in: “This Password Reset is no longer Valid” I’ve been stuck since trying to get my old account back.https://members.adult-fanfiction.org/profile.php?no=1296948245
I’ve emailed you new links. You need to activate the account and then reset the password.
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2 hours ago, Guest ForAnasumiHideki said:
My current email address is {edited out for security) thank you!
I’ve emailed you the new links, and updated the email address for the account. I did edit your post so scammers won’t pick up the email address.
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2 hours ago, GeorgeGlass said:
Yeah, but someone might write a fanfic of one of those stories to give them a less dark turn. I wrote a couple of nasty original stories called “Darla” and “Darla’s Dad,” and another writer asked me if she could write a third story that would give Darla a happier ending. I said yes, and she wrote a pretty decent sequel.
*tries to figure out how anyone could make my most recent MC fluffy* I suppose it could be done, but it would take a lot of work.
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8 minutes ago, Desiderius Price said:
Um… is he remembering to renew his contract? We all know what happens to GoT characters when the actor forgets/declines to renew.
We have a dedicated team of necromancers on stand-by, and they’re considerably better than Cersei’s crappy failed maester.
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1 hour ago, Desiderius Price said:
Nah, nah, took a night king to torment us with its warning about those who dare to resist him with a book that’ll never finish!
I will have you know that GRR is NOT allowed to die before finishing. (Especially after the incredibly horrible ending to the HBO series...)
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5 hours ago, Guest QuietTeaMan said:
Nevermind!
Just tried it again and it let me upload my new chapter!
Sorry to be a bother.
Hi! Glad you were able to upload new chapters. We still have a couple of minor functions not enabled yet, but we are largely back in shape again, thanks to the hard work of our marvelous coder, @manta2g.
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20 minutes ago, Guest Supreme930 said:
I was unable to verify my accounts and when I tried to reset my password it the link was invalid
I’ve emailed you new links for activation and password reset.
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1 hour ago, Desiderius Price said:
Given we’re on a website for positing fanfiction, I’d say somebody writing fanfic for your books would be a sign of success. Me… never got into writing until I had read/watched *ALL* the available material for that universe (at that time), yearned for more, and found fanfiction, wasn’t satisfied and began to write.
I’m pretty sure no one needs fan fic of my darker works. I mean, seriously… Fan fic of the published stuff? Sure. It’s kind of fluffy and mostly HEA. Fan fic of my short original stuff here? Only if you hate sleeping in the dark and don’t mind drinking a lot.
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Are Deep Fakes Fanfiction?
in Writers' Corner
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The above is exactly why I don’t think AI has a place in actual writing, even if it’s fan fiction. The New York Times did a comparison of AI-generated essays/writing prompts versus those written by actual children. (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/12/26/upshot/chatgpt-child-essays.html ) Judy Blume, the author, participated. Give it a try, and see how well you do.