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Seriously. Some of the twisted stuff my fingers type makes me think "I'm glad you boys are attached to me so I can keep an eye on you."

I write because the voices in my head won't let it go until I do what they say. Considering how sick and twisted some of the stuff they come up with is, its probably good that they stick to writing...

For me writing fan fiction invariably starts with hearing dialogue. I've usually become inspired after immersing myself in whatever the canon is. If it's a visual canon like a film or television series, the voices are even clearer, and I'm aware that I will both consciously and unconsciously add in little mannerisms that the actors bring to their characters. Once the dialogue is in my mind, I have to write it. If it's insistent enough, I'll need to fill it in, and fan fiction happens. In the case of multichapter stories, I've never started writing one where I knew how it was going to end. A couple of chapters in I'll start seeing scenes from further on in the story - they're like little lights appearing on a darkened map, showing me where to head to. About halfway through the story, then I'll usually know the ending and the important scenes along the way, so my dark map is now a collection of beacons with little ley lines lit up between them. The strange thing is, that visualisation of the map with the lights isn't new on me. It's something I've been aware of for a while, which is why I posted a reply to this topic. Yet, if forced to say what it looked like, I'd say it seems more like a network than a continuous line, which doesn't really lend itself to a longer narrative. But then, perhaps I'm visualising the scenes as ingredients that lead to the conclusion, rather than a sequence of events. It's most like seeing a lighted up town from space, or a collection of synapses, or some strange mix of the two. Sorry if that doesn't make much sense. Somewhere I read something by Stephen King, talking about how it is for him, and he describes finding a story as if it were an archaeological dig, and he only knows the shape of it as he scrapes away all the dirt around it. I suppose it's different for us all.

Lots of great ways to go about the process of creating have been listed since I was last here. I think many of them are wonderful ways to go about the creative process. I can think of several of these ideas from dreams jotted down as the spark, and across the spectrum that I have done at various times in my own writing career. Writing is such a malleable form of creative expression that I think most of us have done variations of all these ideals at some point.

Having read your thoughts, VladPryde, got me to chuckling. I grew up surrounded by males instead of females so I understand your points perfectly. I'm aware of the bragging and other elements because the guys always forgot that I was a girl when I was growing up. ROFL. If anything I can scarce write from a female perspective due to the pervasive amount of time I spent around men of various ages which makes me quite the oddball. Being in a femaqle body did me little good because I never understood where the girls were coming from at all. Then again, most girls do not grow up fixing cars and tractors and heavy road construction equipment. You made a lot of great points in your 2 posts. Watching guys having pissing contests and all the rest was a first hand experience for me over the years. The need to stake claims and prove dominance is very much a reality of the male condition. I have seen plenty of different ways in which guys go about the one upsmanship over the years. LMAO. It is a primal instinct, and you nailed it beautifully. The drive to meet the criteria of dominant male is very strong in some men also. So thanks for pointing those elements out for those who were unaware of that facet of the male psyche.

I've read up more clearly on the answers here in this thread. Research, as you say, is the key to understanding how you can better write sex scenes between the sexes. For guys/males, try looking into the start of puberty, and work your way up through the teen years to about age 17. These are EXTREMELY important years of a boy's life, which will determine many things; namely his sexuality, his future sexual performance, his sexual activity as he matures, etc etc. If I could speak on a personal note: for me, I started puberty very young; about 8, 9, or 10 years old. And I distinctly recall experiencing many things far more early than most boys probably did at my age; my first erections, first pubes, my first erotic thoughts and fantasies (VERY active for me at that age), discovering that girls were different from me in a physical sense, etc etc. These sorts of things lasted even into my Junior-High-School years, when I REALLY started paying attention to girls and trying to cop peaks down the various shirts of girls who bent over in front of me (hey, I was 14-ish), And I think that, because I started puberty so young, that I was very...precocious and curious, and did many things that other boys (and especially girls) would only dream of (this was ages 9 to 10 for me; perhaps even younger by a year or so). These things included trying to engage the other neighborhood kids in sexual situations that I myself didn't understand at all, and urinating with friends openly in random places and laughing at the "thrill" of it (which I understand now was a sort of sexual arousal at the time). As an adult, I look back on these times and sigh with mild embarrassment, but it's important to note such things if anyone wants to learn from these times and experiences to get into the head of boys at a young age. Again, these times (9-17 years of age) will shape a boys life forever. And understanding these times is crucially important to understanding the psychology of the Male Species. Going back to what others in this thread have mentioned: it really all depends on the individual writing the story in how they experienced such things. Their experiences will most likely shape how they write sex scenes between guys and girls, girls and girls, or guys and guys. And understanding the broad spectrum of experiences of boys and girls is a must in order to understand the psychology of sexuality between the two, so that you can best write the appropriate scenes. In one of my Harry Potter fan fiction stories, entitled "Cum Once, Cum Twice", I noted in the beginning of the story ("Author's Notes") that I tried to use my own sexual experiences growing up to shape how I wrote that story (it's a Harry/Ron slash; 1 chapter done so far). The fact of the matter is, that as I got deeper and deeper into the story, I found it taking the shape, not of how my own sexual experiences occurred at that age, but rather: how I wished they had occurred. In the story, I tried to show a deep affectionate emotion between Harry and Ron, that could easily be translated into a "Love" rather than just an "Affection". But again, this was based on my wishes, not necessarily my experiences. Rather, the physical aspects of the story (how Harry masturbates Ron, for example) were based on my actual experiences growing up. Not the emotional part; just the physical part. You can read the story here: http://hp.adult-fanfiction.org/story.php?no=600097862 I hope this answers some questions, or gives you some incite, into a little bit about the Male Psychology when it comes to Sexuality. If you would like to continue this with me in depth, you can email me (I'm very open about my sexuality/experiences): vladpryde@hotmail.com, or PM me here on this forum (if you can). Email works best though. Keep in mind: I am just one guy. A broader expanse into the Male Psych should be sought if at all possible, from any viable source necessary.

This is exactly the sort of thing that I love to hear, actually. As a woman who writes a good bit of slash, I've also done an enormous amount of research, including the physical and biological imperatives of both genders. I'm fairly sure my daft bugger wrote me off as batshit crazy quite some time ago, but he's sticking around, so I won't complain. I'm always happy to learn more, and hear from more men about the physicality of being male, so thank you!

I briefly skimmed over these answers, so forgive me if I didn't catch anyone specific. I think that women, for the most part, are perfectly capable of writing male sexual desire scenes. You only have to look at great Fan Fiction artists like Amanuensis of the Harry Potter universe to see how true that is. She loves smut, and usually does male/male pairings. I've long loved her work, and it's very erotic. However, one thing I believe (again, this is MY belief, and my opinion alone), is that women will never truly understand the psychology of the man during sex, or during the build-up to arousal. Yes, many men make love to their partners with an amazing amount of love and feelings. However, underneath that single emotion is a mountain of Primal Instinct, which exists in all men. The Primal Instinct involves the subconscious telling us, as men, to mark our territory. To claim it. To mark it as OURS. When a man ejaculates or orgasms, there is nothing that even comes close to anything in this world that is as powerful as placing our sperm into another person. Or onto a person (example: facial). It is Instinct at its most Primal. WE have to be the Dominant. WE have to claim our Positions. And, in my opinion, nothing says that like ejaculating. It's also why we tend to brag after sex, or about sexual experiences: beneath the bragging, we're telling the other males "this is what I did, and with whom" and "I'm dominant, don't fuck with me." And it's not something that we can help. Again: it's Instinct. It's been this way as long as Man has walked this Earth. And the same could most definitely be said for Women as well. We, as men, will never know what it's like to carry a child. To give birth. To nurse a baby. To experience those "Mother Instincts" that every woman has when she becomes pregnant. We'll never understand that. Only women will. And women will ALWAYS be better at writing such nurturing scenes than men ever will be. Anyways, that's all. Just thought I would chime in on this subject. I was letting my mind wander (never a good idea, lol) and I came across this topic while cruising the forum.

Please note that you are being held to the same standard as every other author on this site. You are not being asked to do anything different. If you believe that you deserve special treatment, I suggest you take the time to read your very childish rant above, and consider why anyone who behaves like that should be permitted to maintain an account on a site that is for adults.

I assume that 'without thought' really means 'without planing', right? I really can't imagine writing without thinking. I'm thinking way faster than I could ever type or even speak. Usually I develop a scenes basic outlines pretty fast in my head and write them down, modifying the details on the way. I don't always plan ahead, though. And that leads to several stories getting stuck at some point. I'm trying to accustom myself to a way of more pronounced planing, practically outlining a longer plot in advance. If I'm lucky, I will enter flow when I pick up writing and the details get pieced together without much effort.

I have the plot landmarks in place as to where I want to go in the short run. The best analogy I can make is that you're standing in a field in a light fog. You can see the immediate key features in front of you, but the rest is obscured. As you move forward, the fog clears. That is enough to get me started. And then the rest, the fun part of the process, is where I end up, of course. I don't always know. If I get stuck, I always go back and review. That leads to new ideas, or sometimes, forces me to go back and correct the trajectory. The most thrilling thing is when the characters start to speak up. This doesn't always happen, but when it does, they take over. They're in my brain, having a total discussion, demanding to be part of the story. Even if a story is not successful, that part of it is just the best roller coaster ride in the world. And last, sometimes, more rarely, the map is already there, all worked out. It normally takes me a long time to map out plot points, so I'm very grateful when that's the case. I'm totally not organized. I don't do the good things like map out my characters ahead. I have a pretty good idea of who they are ahead of time. Some of the most ambivalent characters, I believe, would have really been ruined by this process. I never want to be in the position of having to say, "Well, she wouldn't do this!" So for me, a lot of the character creation happens within the story. They begin in skeletal form, and are fleshed out as time goes on.

Okay, that's a decent list, actually, and you'll notice that there is NO fruit mentioned at all. This is GOOD. We are not a salad bar, after all. You have two of your women being C cup, and that measurement, 36 and 42, refers to the band, or the part of the bra that wraps around the body. I'm going to assume those are inch measurements, since we're talking adult women here. 42 inches for a band is a woman with a wide back and a broad build. If that's what you're going for, that's great, but... Marilyn Monroe wore a 36D. Salma Hayek is a 36C. Kim Kardashian is a 32DD. Katy Perry is a 32D. So, you see, it's the cup size that's the fullness of the breast, not the band. For visuals, read this. As I said in the shoutbox, and I'll repeat it here for any other curious authors, I myself prefer not to be told a specific size for breasts, or for penises. I have a terrific imagination. That's why I'm a writer, because I have all these imaginary worlds and people in my head. So, give my imagination something to do when I'm reading. If you describe breasts as "lush," I'm going to have an image in my head that is pleasing and sexy. If you tell me the breasts are 36DD, I'm going to start thinking about how I should probably check and see if Victoria's Secret is having any good sales, or maybe I can look online... and you've lost me. I'm shopping, not reading your story. Engage your readers by engaging their imaginations, not by writing a catalog.

For me I've got to have a gimmick to hang the story on, such as my ...Meets the Fanboys or my Buffy vs. La Blue Girl. For my shorter stories I ususally just free write and then go back to edit them but for my longer ones I use the 5 part story arc, free write what I want to happen then edit it into a outline that I use to write the whole story. I post per chapter after I edit them (a trait I'm learning) and re-edit after getting some feedback. Also, I write long hand and then type before I edit so it takes me even longer that way cuz I write way faster than I type.