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What I say: “Are any of you injured?” Amir asked. What my phone hears: “Are any of you injured? I'm your ass.”

Lets reshape the debate, as talking about it as “non-sex” vs “sex” stuff feels a bit wrong. In my originals, I’m sprinkling the sexual stuff throughout the story; sure, some sections are steamier than others. In my potter fanfic… the explicit one does the same, sprinkles in the sexual material within the “cleaner” scenes. In explicit, I’d have two male characters continue their conversation into the lavatory and their dicks hang out; in clean, I’d skip the restroom. In explicit, I’d be describing some of the dirt and grime to underwear, perhaps a hole or two; in clean, maybe mention the underwear, or try to write it out of the scene. In more compromising situations, I’d have explicit make them naked; cleaner would keep their underwear in. Sex… when needed, it’s fade to black for cleaner (unless plot requires it shown, at which point, details are kept as brief/light as possible). One fun way that shows the differences, I’ve got Ron and Hermione going on a date to London. In the explicit, its full details. In the clean, it’s Harry reading/commenting on the citations for lewd/indecent behavior the morning after.

I appreciate it for sure. For details, most of my stuff here involve at least 5-15 pages of story before the sex actually happens in the story. However, for this story it would probably by 20-30 pages and either will have sex around page 25. Or I could just have 20-30 pages of non story, then chapter 2 will be the sex stuff.

I remember playing games with fonts/margins back in school (when you’re given a minimum page count).

I’ve been thinking about a story I’ve been working on and it wasn’t originally intended to involve a lot of sex. However, I’ve since decided to do a second version of the story which has more sex. But I want to post the first couple chapters together as the first chapter for context. Would you read it if they only had sex in the second chapter? There’s a version of it where the end of the first chapter could have some sex in it. Not sure if I want to do this though.

Yes, that was a typo. I intended to say “non-sex” which is how AFF tends to categories things. If you’re writing a more traditional narrative story where the point isn’t necessarily the sex, it goes under “non-sex”. So my intent there is for it to be that I would have 20-30 pages of non-sex plot before getting to the sex stuff.

Hi, all. I hope that it was just a typo, with 20-30 pages of “non story.” With a “typical” word count of roughly 220 words on a “page,” that would be almost five thousand words of nothing. @Desiderius Price, when I’m talking “clean vs dirty,” I’m also describing the detail. in once scene of Yankee’s Nephew, I have two characters play strip poker, start a relatively tame BDSM spanking, and then quit and talk about what ‘she’ wants to do with ‘him’ instead before fading to black. I also join several couples after the act, wearing “only each other.” This hasn’t been ‘scandalous’ since the 1950s or so in the United States. In a “dirty” story, I leave almost nothing to the reader’s imagination. If I wrote the @GeorgeGlass inspired short story I’m Your Ass, I could easily write it either ‘no-sex,’ or a very explicit M/M M/F Pegging story, especially since Amir has a nightstick. Cheers!

Hi, Deadman and all. Just my “two-cent’s worth,” it would depend on whether or not the story itself interested me, and was well-written. There are “no-sex” stories here, and unless they’re total trash, they do get readers. Likewise, even if you start the very first paragraph of Chapter 1 with the “adult-rated” stuff, if a story is poorly written, or just not something I’m interested in, then I won’t read it. You are the author, and you probably know where the porn belongs in your story. The reader, in turn, will decide if you’ve got it right. But, if the story is well-written, and the premise of the story itself is interesting to the reader, then they’ll usually agree with you. Unlike some fiction sites, this one only allows adults, so there isn’t as much of a likelihood of “scaring the children.” Posting “clean and dirty” or “dirty and dirtier” versions of a story can be a great idea for all sorts of reasons. But because we only allow adults here, it doesn’t seem to be done as much because of that. Agreed. I have no idea whether someone else’s “page count” story is single-spaced, double-spaced, or something else. And, what size is their page in the first place? What size is their font? Word count (five characters plus one space equals one word) is used commonly enough that you can get some idea of what you’re about to be looking at. Good luck with whatever you decide.

I combine… usually the other way, since I try to keep it reasonable on length (4-9k), but there’s some deviations. To the same plot point, clean is 110 chapters, while it’s 263 on the explicit. (Note, I use kwords because the “page” metric is highly subjective to font choices, layout, etc.)

I tried writing a smut fairly plotless oneshot once, it led to my brain rebelling, and now I’ve got a bunch of original universe stories whose eventual goal is to justify the environment/setup of that PWP!