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  1. yukihimedono

    Histrionics

    In regards to the article, I agree with Desiderius and Dirty. It was only 187 words with no real explanation of how to use Histrionics other than to say “don’t use it”. (And yes, I actually checked his word count.) Honestly, in my opinion, that article was a joke. Just telling others that such devices shouldn’t be used is a little presumptuous considering there is no context to the advice being given. The author does not know the degree of writing experience of his audience and does nothing to exaggerate on the meaning he is trying to convey, which leaves the readers confused and unsure of how or whether to use this literary device. That would be like having a gay character not be flamboyant in any way or having a surfer not use any beach slang. It also constrains the character and his/her actions within the work and, if a writer is attempting to create a realistic situation with real characters, then such actions like slamming a door or punching a wall or throwing a book would be necessary as they are real-life actions taken by real-life people. Okay, I’m done ranting now.
    2 points
  2. CloverReef

    Histrionics

    Okay, I need to talk about this because it made me angry. As things usually do when they start calling writers who do a certain thing ‘lazy’. http://inventingrealityeditingservice.typepad.com/inventing_reality_editing/2014/09/cut-plot-cliché-of-histrionic-exit.html I somewhat agree with avoiding cliche plot things, but the histrionics? We’re advising writers to cut bold actions now just because they’re dramatic? People do dramatic things. Some people slam doors when they’re angry. The little gestures like the balling of fists is good advice, but telling the writer not to have characters slam doors just seems totally counter intuitive to me. And Ending a scene on that note, when appropriate, and when it fits the characters and the circumstances, doesn’t seem lazy to me. Can I get an “Amen”? Or a “fuck you clovey”? No, really, someone tell me I’m not crazy, please. Edit: plus WTF? Since when are we telling writers to delete relevant physical actions? Edit 2: This kinda turned into a rant, but it’s meant to be a discussion lol. I’m stressed. Let me be pissy.
    1 point
  3. Profile Yep. You guessed it. I got caught, dammit.
    1 point
  4. CloverReef

    Histrionics

    I agree 100% @yukihimedono. The advice in that thing, I found to be pretty damn counter intuitive. I was just completely blown away that a professional would advise writers that way.
    1 point
  5. BronxWench

    Wrong tags

    I have checked the stories posted by this member. There is exactly 1 story out of 38 which has the wrong placement, and I have corrected it, which should, I trust, answer your report.
    1 point
  6. So, I’m on vacation this week. Not going anywhere, just getting caught up. Caught up the yard, and am now working on the house. And the archive.
    1 point
  7. Avaloyuru

    Histrionics

    Wow! Going to the link to see the entire blurb written, I would have to agree that this ‘advice’ does not apply ‘across the board’ and I don’t say that because I’ve used the ‘slamming door’ action to emphasize something a character just said. I've also used it when that same character was alone but was so completely frustrated or angry there was a need to expend energy. I have hot-headed characters as well as those who hide that aspect of themselves from others. Therefore, in private they react in what would be viewed as a violent manner to release some of the anger or even rage they feel inside. For example, I have this one character who is viewed by most of the other characters as 'meek and mild' yet she threw a book across the room because she was pissed off. I feel old cliche's do have a place in writings as long as they fit within the characters established personality and the setting they are used. Using them does not reflect poor or substandard writing skills, in my opinion.
    1 point
  8. Anesor

    Histrionics

    Well, I think the blog writer is not really writing for us as his audience. He’s writing for the really new people who don’t include much more to this than the drama queen door slam. We’re already adding emotional description and doorjam breaking. His essay is actually pretty short, and half is a shill for his service. The meat is almost in this one sentence: “This involves punctuating the end of a scene with a physical action aimed at evoking an emotional response in the reader.” Putting all the emphasis on the door slam, the gun shot, or the choking of the pregnant Senator instead of the rest of the fight. Focusing on the violence of the scene instead of the meaning. Describing and showing the rest is a lot harder than describing the slam. There’s nothing really wrong with the hint, but it’s a bit simplistic as written. Sort of like coming down hard on a drama queen slam, instead of explaining the whole problem in the scene. I think that makes it a funny slam, because he’s written the same thing he’s complaining about. And it doesn’t do that much to make his skills look good.
    1 point
  9. Tcr

    Histrionics

    ...and As usual, TCR is late for the party!... Everyone's gone... Damn it… From everything I've read, I'll probably end up repeating things here. But... Repeating is my middle name, so… Honestly, I feel this whole blog editing advice is bull for this. Ending it to make up for a lack of style? Huh, wonder if anyone told King or Crichton or any number of other major authors that used a slamming door or other (as much as it wasn't used in the post) over the top actions? If, and this has been pointed out, the character in question is naturally hot headed and prone to outburst, or even if they aren't but emotionally it has set them off in that way so it feels natural, then a slammed door is a good indication. This isn't lazy or a lack of style, this is making a human character be human. Humans are, mostly, emotional creatures, for better and worse, and, as such, react emotionally. If it's set up that A has pissed B off to the point B is fuming like an erupting volcano, then have B erupt. That said, in my questionable opinion, it has to be set up properly. Having an argument that reads like a pair of old grandmas having tea end with a door slam probably isn't the most likely… That said, I'll stop rambling now.
    1 point
  10. Praetor

    Histrionics

    It’s poor form only if there isn’t a reason to be slamming doors. Teenagers do it all the time but I once saw a guy slam a door so hard it dented the frame and deafened the dude sitting just outside it. Cliches exist because they are common and are not intrinsically bad, in fact they can be very good if the writer uses them correctly or plays with them. In the above scenario, it was a very dramatic moment to all who witnessed it, but then it became funny when we found out the door got busted and a guy had ringing in his ear. TV tropes has things like playing it straight, exaggerated, zig zagged, parodied, deconstructed, reconstructed etc. How is balling fists less cliched than slamming doors anyways?
    1 point
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