Fate: Gamer Night - Shota Edition

[warellis]

No idea on why that occurred but yeah I read about his (well "her" here) knight robot. Pretty cool.

Hm the Einzbern were noted as having spied on Shirou for some time. I wonder if they might notice his ability to attract others or his charisma and such?

[Guest Wandering_Moth]

If they did, they might note Shirou as an unusually persuasive boy for his age or a practitioner of very subtle Mental Interference. Both of which might point toward a Sealing Designate possessing his body. They might even think he has numerous (expendable) informants and safe houses all over the city.

Assumptions and baseless hypothesis in line with what you're already familiar with are fun to read, aren't they?

[warellis]

Oh yes! I wonder how that might change things will Illya and her maids?

[Guest Wandering_Moth]

Immense paranoia. Or they might just tell Rin "Hey, there's this really suspicious magus walking around your turf, do something about it."

Or they could just skip the land owner entirely and tell the Mage's Association "Hey, there's this really suspicious magus lurking around in the sticks and its hillbilly land owner isn't doing anything about it, just a thought." and sic some enforcers on them.

Or maybe they stick to the original plan, I don't know how politics work.

[warellis]

They'd probably stick to their original plan with modifications. The Einzbern are isolationest so they won't be going to the Association, and I can't imagine them attempting to help the Second Owner. They'll probably try to turn it to their advantage.

[VotedforKodos]

Potentially, the Einzberns just tell Illya, say "Here's what that kid your dad left you for is doing." Given there's more than 7 Masters in this case, and only 3 can be reliably assumed about (the 3 families), she might use it as a way to find the Masters, force Shirou at Heracles-point to get her information, originally with the full intention of killing him horribly later on.

Then Charisma kicks in, and she winds up deciding that as his older sister, it's her right to keep him for as long as she likes, and do whatever she wants with him. After all, he has to make up for taking her father away, and just death isn't enough. He needs to spend his whole life begging her for forgiveness.

@Warellis

As far as the mud creatures, yeah, they look like people, maybe with some illusion magecraft to show actual appearance. Otherwise, they're just Grail mud dolls in that person's shape, with none of the physical traits (hair color, eye color, skin tone, etc.). So, like, one imitating Sakura would be distinct from one imitating Rin, just from bust size, but to actually sell the deception, it would require actual magic above and beyond the dolls.

What happens if someone gets pulled in depends entirely on Dark Iri. If she wants them tortured to insanity or just carried somewhere, whatever.

Although Shirou would have some level of protection from them, just from being able to see people's status.

[warellis]

Heh would Shirou's charisma be enough to purge the Grail of Angra Mainyu?

[Guest Wandering_Moth]

Gilgamesh's ego couldn't purge the Grail of Angra Mainyu. And that's saying something.

Speaking of Gilgamesh, what's stopping her from killing everyone else that have their eyes on Shirou?

[VotedforKodos]

Same thing that stops Gilgamesh from curb stomping everything in every Grail War: ego. It's not suitable for the king to step forward to deal with such mongrels.

Edited May 18, 2016 by VotedforKodos

[Guest Wandering_Moth]

So....she sees someone glomping him, she's going to insult them instead? Threaten them? I would assume she would be displeased at the idea of sharing ownership.

Edited May 18, 2016 by Wandering_Moth

[VotedforKodos]

I mean, probably not to that extent, but Gilgamesh has been known to just wander off for little reason in the middle of a situation where he's already won. Look at UBW when he leaves Shirou, Rin, and Saber alive at the Einzbern castle even though killing them would have taken fairly minimal effort for him.

It also depends who has him. For example, if Fem-Gil considers Saber her possession, there's no real problem with her having Shirou, because it's just her belongings staying together for easy care.

But mostly it's just that I don't expect Gilgamesh to actually get involved immediately. I expect her to hang back until the mid-game at least, possibly late-game, by which point Shirou's Charisma will probably have leveled up to an obscene degree.

[Guest Wandering_Moth]

I'm not all that familiar with The Gamer. How - well, not exactly sure how to put this - extreme is the level progression there?

Edited May 18, 2016 by Wandering_Moth

[warellis]

Yeah. Like are there level caps?

I kind of imagine Kiara and Fem-Gil would still probably out level Shirou in Charisma. Like he has a level cap of say 100 and they have level caps of like 9000 or something like that. Something like this for example:

Like even though is at his peak or whatever, he might still find Fem-Gil or Kiara more powerful than him in some areas.

Edited May 18, 2016 by warellis

[VotedforKodos]

At least in The Gamer, skills max out at level 99, but also can lead to developing different abilities at certain milestones. Stats haven't been shown to have any cap at all.

To give an example, the protagonist in the original series has (with passive bonuses) an INT of 236.3 at level 53, because that's what he focused on. With the bonuses he got from that and passive skills, his MP regen was high enough to have certain active skills on perpetually, including having an elemental summoned. Because of that, it reached 99, and in the latest chapter, his "Lowest class elemental summon" evolved into "Low class elemental summon."

[Guest Wandering_Moth]

Would this Low class elemental be able to destroy a building. Also, were there other "Gamers" besides him?

Edited May 19, 2016 by Wandering_Moth

[VotedforKodos]

There are no others, The Gamer is his title and unique ability. It's specifically mentioned that people who have natural talents that are late bloomers (i.e., someone who has a supernatural ability that doesn't manifest when they're very young) tend to have broken abilities. And the only elemental that has shown up so far is the Lowest class, that probably could destroy a building, but not instantly. More like destabilizing it and making it collapse. Her abilities mostly get used for support, helping him move around and stuff while he hits them with Magic Arrows.

Other note, in the series, he creates skills for just about everything he does, including Massage. So, you know, that's a thing.

[Guest Wandering_Moth]

So what you're saying is, the Gamer ability is unique to him, but there are others with completely different abilities. Am I reading that right?

Edited May 19, 2016 by Wandering_Moth

[VotedforKodos]

Yeah. I don't remember off the top of my head anybody else showing up who has had the same kind of inherent ability that he has. Mostly, the other people showing up with abilities have been mages and martial artists who developed their abilities through training and study.

[warellis]

Is there a link to this manga?

[Guest Wandering_Moth]

Two years worth of webtoons right here. Happy hunting.

Ignore this link, I messed up and made another post with alternatives.

Edited May 19, 2016 by Wandering_Moth

[warellis]

Thanks.

[Guest Wandering_Moth]

If you're still here ignore the link from before; the grammar's terrible. Either of these will do.

http://mngcow.co/The-Gamer/
http://mangafox.me/manga/the_gamer/

Sorry for the inconvenience.

[Ichasennin]

There is no level cap in my story, but greater stats and levels become increasingly difficult to achieve.

[warellis]

No problem. And thanks for the updated version.

Oh hey you're back!

Edited May 19, 2016 by warellis

[Guest Wandering_Moth]

Happy day!

You here to stay?

Edited May 19, 2016 by Wandering_Moth