how far can it but pushed?

[SirGeneralSir]

so trying to be accurate as best i can, how far can sex and penetrating the cervix actually go?

I know that unless a woman has dilated, the cervix is nothing short of the great wall of china with one very small opening.

typically, if a guy is able to press into it i know that it can cause some pain and discomfort, but how far can it go?

also, if for some reason the cervix is actually open, just for the sake of argument because of "Magic" how far could a guy penetrate, would it be safe to a point and would it be possible to enter to womb?

i need 3 good ways to almost ensure that when a guy cums that 99.9% of the sperm enters the womb for one story.

i also need the info for a horror story im thinking of writing.

[JayDee]

This is a job... for COSMO:

http://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/advice/a6896/cervical-orgasm-guide/

Anything beyond that is gonna be, from your male perspective, like putting your balls in a mincer and slowly turning the handle while listening to a deaf guy whistle.

As for the horror story, fuck it, just shove it right through there and make a point of noting the blood and agony and pissing self with excruciating pain. It's all good.

...What? I'm JayDee, damn it...

[SirGeneralSir]

lol ive heard that as well, but i hear alot of conflicting things too, and i find it hard to split what is opinion and just is.

like some women like annal and others dont, but i know that it can also hurt alot if done wrong and could be dangerous depending on some things.

also, is it just in the vagina that is supposed to be the deadly area for sperm or does that continue into the womb?

even though i can write it any way i like, it would be good to have the info in general for my notes.

as for the horror story, i was thinking about an alien creature entering a woman and turning into some kind of hybrid or something.

[BronxWench]

The pH of the vagina is not conducive to sperm. The cervix is not inclined to open for sperm, but obviously can be breached, and the uterus is not hostile unless the woman is actively menstruating in which case, everything is getting flushed out during the monthly clean-out.

As far as pressing too hard against the cervix, it will vary from woman to woman. Some won't find it overly uncomfortable, and others will threaten to deball you if you do that again. The thing is, don't assume that because Woman A is okay with you playing battering ram at her cervix that Woman B is just being a princess.

[SirGeneralSir]

right, i do want to avoid that, the sexual encounters that the guy in my first story is having right now are supposed to be the gentle first time together getting into things and learning what both want.

but the ultimate goal is for him to in some way or another, to unload as much as he can directly into the womb of 3 women.

the first girl who i have already worked the idea out (she used x-ray vision to press his tip to her opening) i figured the 2nd girl uses "Magic" to open her cervix and have him kind of slide past, that brings me to a question, is the cervix just the "Door" to the womb or is it the passage to the womb too?

the 3rd girl, im actually not sure on how she could try and make sure to get as much of his cum inside her womb other than using something else to prevent any pain and maybe force him right into her? open to suggestions on it actually

[BronxWench]

Okay. The cervix is actually a sort of passage from the vagina into the uterus. On average, the ectocervix or external os, the part that bulges into the vaginal passage, is 3 cm in length and roughly 2.5 cm wide. Past the external os is the cervical canal, which is maybe 4 cm long, and might make it to 8 mm in width, which is not very wide at all. This would be the hideous pain portion of the program, since the cervical canal is NOT designed to allow a penis to enter it. At the end of the cervical canal is the internal os and beyond that is the uterus itself.

Unless a woman is ovulating or menstruating, the external os is blocked by mucus designed to keep sperm out. During ovulation, the mucus thins to allow sperm to enter. Folds in the cervical canal hold sperm and release it into the uterus over several hours, to help increase the chances of fertilization. The whole purpose of the cervix is to keep most things out, except during ovulation, and even then, it's only sperm that should be going in.

Now, if you need these things to absolutely, positively happen for the sake of your story, come up with magic or some other method to transport the sperm in, because you are not going to be able to bend anatomy to your purposes unless you want to wreck the woman for life. You can't pick and choose what bits to keep, so either you're going to go with basic biology or you're going to embark on fantasy, Pick one, and have fun.

[JayDee]

If the first has x-ray vision and the second magic, you could give the third a technology explanation, like a device that detects sperm cells and teleports them from one place to another, possibly with a Star Trek sound effect.

He looked up, eyes wide with surprise, as his cheeks bulged.

"I had it set on mouth, not uterus," she laughed, before suddenly turning serious, "now swallow and see how you like it."

[SirGeneralSir]

lol i just dont want to state something that would be incorrect in the actual sense of real human biology.

if the measurements are correct, then it would take a dick about ..... 10in long? to make it into the womb just by length alone, give or take.

but that doesn't mean i cant use magical ways to make it less of a problem for the majority of the sperm to make it to the finish line

so the 2nd girl could use "Magic" to cause her entire cervix to just open up as if getting ready to give birth, just no baby in there, so maybe the tip would just enter the cervix.

would it be possible for the muscles in a womans vagina/cervix or what have you create suction? i once saw a video of a woman that was able to smoke with her pussy, take a drag and blow it out ...... unless it was fake (smoking pussy 100% turn off)

the guy has enhanced his sperm with "magic" that must for lack of a better word, flood their bodies with his energy to cure them from something that for lack of a better word, infected them with bad energy and will kill them, if the sperm dies then the energy is gone so they have to swim around inside for a while and flood the bodies with the energy and allow the body to adapt to it and be purged of the bad energy as it slowly absorbs the good energy.

so i need ways that would sound somewhat possible to make an entire deposit inside the girls womb, hes not trying to get them pregnant, just help cure them ...... for now.

[BronxWench]

When dilated for giving birth, the external os opens to 10 cm, and the canal shortens appropriately. But unless a woman is actively giving birth, there is no way the external os, cervical canal and internal os can comfortable accommodate a penis.

Now, if your world allows for magic, then go to town, but have the sperm drawn in by magic means. Do not, unless you are going for pain and gore, have the penis go past that external os.

[SirGeneralSir]

yeah in the first story, im not after blood gore and extreme pain.

i am open to some discomfort and a little bit of pain.

so the 2nd girl uses "magic" to fool the body into thinking she is giving birth, causing the cervix to dilate like that so that he can cum almost directly into her womb.

i think the 3rd girl could do something similar, just not to the same extreme, where it does open, but just his tip is pressed there each time he cums, might still need some work on the finer points of it

[JayDee]

[Off topic]

I just clicked on new content, threads showing were:

"how far can it but pushed? in Writers' Corner"

and

"Until It Hurts in Slash"

Seems like some kind of sign!

[SirGeneralSir]

lol

ok so this is what i have as it stands.

Woman A: uses her "x-ray vision" (not really just what i'm calling it) to press the tip of guys dick against the opening of her cervix when he cums inside her, does it 8 times and each of his loads is 1TBS

Woman B: uses "Magic" (not really just simple to call it that) to open her cervix allowing the tip of his dick just barely inside her cervix and again cums in her, this girl get 4 loads

Woman C: uses "Magic" to open her entire cervix telling her body its time to give birth, allowing his entire tip inside the opening and is willing to put up with any pain (they have a history, shes been mean to him) and gets 6 loads

woman A touches the tip to cervix, woman B gets half of tip inside cervix and C gets entire tip inside cervix.

im sure the last 2 sound more uncomfortable to most women, mostly the last one, but at least its not a horse cock of 10in entering the womb

Edited January 3, 2015 by SirGeneralSir

[BronxWench]

Were I either of the last two women in question, he'd be shy a pair of testicles for the attempt. Cervical penetration's not "uncomfortable." This was either a masterpiece of understatement, or you've entirely missed the point that the opening is normally so small that anything larger than the tip of a cotton swab is going to hurt like a motherfucker. Just saying...

I had a cervical biopsy once, and the procedure is done without anesthesia. My OB was impressed by the fact that I didn't scream or jerk away as most women do. I have a ridiculously high tolerance for pain, mind you, but I assure you, it HURT. And that was merely taking a tiny pinch of tissue with a sharp instrument, over in less than a second. Had he inserted anything past the external os, I'd have needed at the very least a good dose of a local anesthetic.

You're not going to get an enthusiastic "attaboy!" from me on any part of this, boyo. If they can use magic/jutsu/whatever to be assaulted, why can't they just use the same abilities to move the damned sperm into the uterus without the punishment factor? Your way is so needlessly complicated and fetishistic.

[PervOtaku]

I've read a lot of Japanese hentai manga (porn comics) in which the cervix is penetrated as if it's nothing. At least when it's a tentacle monster doing it, the length is there. When it's a supposedly normal guy doing it, it shows the author is ignorant of penis to vagina proprotions or just doesn't care.

In a tentacle demon story I wrote, I made a specific point of saying the demon doesn't enter the cervix. However, I'm totally aware this fetish exists, and the imagery of the girl's abdomen protruding from the cock or tentacle pushing against the inside of the womb is a strong one, if only because it is so goddamn absurd. So in the interests of giving the audience what at least some of them apparently want, I've put some thought into this.

So as long as you're in a fantasy or scifi setting to begin with, there are two "plausible" things to remember, which has already been mentioned. One, the cervix opens fairly wide during childbirth. This is generally a function of hormones, all the inner workings of reproductive systems are regulated by hormones. Introduction of the right hormones at an inappropriate time could have interesting effects. Two, during normal periods the cervix is closed but its opening still runs through it. It's just very small. Something, or rather a lot of something, that is similarly very small should be able to get through unnoticed. Once on the other side, in the womb, they can have a little more fun. It's not quite the same as a full blown cervix penetration, but the end effect should be just as good to fulfill the fetish.

[SirGeneralSir]

it would appear that i have forgotten to explain a key part of the idea.

its not the guy doing any of this, its the girls because aside from desperately wanting to be cured from whats going to kill them, very slowly and painfully while driving them mad by hormone overload, every hormone being activated at once, causing them to experience puberty like symptoms, pregnancy/birth, horny, PMS ......... all of it at the same time, actually reminds me that i need to explore that more in this chapter too.

i used "uncomfortable" because i was reading a thing where some women say they love it when the cervix is touched/fucked, others saying its an instant sex mood killer and everything else under the sun, hell ive seen a vid where a woman actually pieces her nipples with inch long spikes and appears to get off on that ....... i dont.

anyways, the guy is just going with the idea of having sex with the girls, cum in them and they get fixed by it, not that hes not having fun having sex with three lovely women in one day.

the girls are told "behind the scenes" that the more cum he releases and enters their womb, the better as there is more energy that will heal them sort to speak.

the reason i have it that sex is required, is because the bad energy infected them while they were sexually aroused, now they are currently in a state of constant sexual arousal and nothing can stop that until they are cured

(masterbating etc isnt giving them the release they need)

the guy needs to be sexualy aroused too as that would affect his energy and allow the energy of the girls to synchronize the other two energy to their settings in effect cleansing them of the bad energy that would be turned into their own energy.

damn that sounds so complicated.

i'm just trying to find a good way to allow slight interaction with the cervix that wouldn't give the impression of something from one of the SAW movies.

yes this is a Naruto story and if anyone can come up with a better idea that would allow him to fire off his loads almost directly into the womb, within some reason, i'm open to suggestions.

[JayDee]

Turkey Baster?

[SirGeneralSir]

lol he needs to have sex with them, he has to be fully in the thrall of having sex for his energy to be at the right frequency to heal them, if not its just wasted energy in them thats going to do almost nothing

[BronxWench]

It sounds so complicated because it IS so complicated.

Now, I want you to go drop trou. Really. I'm waiting.

Drop the tweeds, take the pocket monster in hand, and examine the head. If you're intact, roll back the foreskin. I want you to notice something.

Wait for it.

This is important.

...

The head is bigger than the shaft.

Really.

So, explain to me, boyo, how putting the tip in is somehow less awful, because I'm not getting it. When I gave birth, and things were going out as opposed to in, getting the biggest part (the head) out was hard and the rest was far less painful. So, I'm going to hazard a guess that things work pretty much the same going the other way.

At that point, he's better be healing on a good dozen frequencies, or he is going to have some VERY sore women to cope with, and I'd strongly advise hiding all the sharp things first.

[SirGeneralSir]

i had to read that a few times to make sure i understood it, first half confused me.

ok so still remember, i'm still hashing this all out and nothing is set in stone, other than they do something to help get as much of his cum inside their wombs.

my thinking was this.

the external os is what the tip of his dick touches/enters, not deep inside the cervix canal, but just at the entrance there.

not having a cervix as im a guy (duh) i dont know all the joys of what any of this would feel like so i really only have google and anything that you or the other ladies tell me about on here, wife has limited education in the matter

so i would imagine that just being at the door, would be less painful than being in the hallway sort to speak.

my only goal is to have the girls do something that lets him fill them with his cum during sex, like i said not the cheesy hentai inflation or womb penetrating monster cocks that gets said girl pregnant in 3 seconds.

the reason its important is because he was not expected to release as much in each girl as he does, they are getting probably ......... ten times the amount of energy from the guy, this will affect them later on and be a key part for the story later.

i dont NEED to have the tip of his dick actually penetrate the cervix, just exploring options.

[foeofthelance]

Yeah, I think once you've reached the point where you're using magic to accomplish something, it should be solved in the most direct way possible. Just have them use the ancient scroll of Knockum Upitis and hand wave the rest. Otherwise, the more details you throw in the more people will question it.

[BronxWench]

I'm going to go sit in the corner and declare defeat in the face of having confused a male by asking him to drop his trousers and examine his dick.

[SirGeneralSir]

ok lets see if i can make it simple.

girls got infected by bad energy that is making them really horny, almost like in heat along with other things.

guy has good energy in him, his energy can heal them but has to be just as turned on as that would affect his energy.

if he is in the midst of having sex with them, his energy will be able to connect to theirs, because they are so horny it would prevent his normal energy from being able to do its job so it has to be in the same mood?

two of the girls do something that affects their cervix to try and allow more of his sperm to reach their womb just so it can sit there and for lack of a better word, radiate the energy into their bodies, pregnancy isn't going to happen from this.

my logic is that oral or annal will kill the sperm that needs to sit inside the body for some time to be able to make the changes and save the girls from death.

i only used the term "Magic" to keep it simple for explanation for anyone that doesn't know the Naruto universe.

[SirGeneralSir]

lol BW it was how you were asking in the first few lines, that threw me off for a min

[foeofthelance]

Yeah, the thing is that there's no reason to open the cervix that way. Look, sperm is a fluid, right? So the easiest way to get the sperm pass the cervix is not to do some some complicated body modifications mid-coitus. You just need to funnel the sperm past the choke point.

Think of it this way. You have a bucket of water that you need to pour down a drain. The only catch is that you're not allowed to touch the side of the drains: all the water has to go through, none is allowed to remain in the sink. Your current idea is to make the sink wider to shove the entire bucket down, when it would be easier to just get a funnel and control the flow.

[SirGeneralSir]

lmfao, you just gave me a funny as hell mental image on that one foe.

using the sink idea, the vagina would be the sink and the drain would be the cervix then right?

now if im not mistaken, the cervix would act kind of like a shield, only allowing what actually went in to pass through, because the cum itself isnt alive just the sperm and normally only about 10% ? actually makes it close to the egg.

i want to make it so that as much as 70% - 80% gets in there, even though his sperm production is increased from a teaspoon to a tablespoon.