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And it's okay to use the empire a loy. I just try to suggest things to mix up the circumstances of their involvement a bit.

And i can help with writers block, or at least try

Eh, look at it this way. You've made it this far and planned for this much. If you like the film you can make a mini-sequel with nods to some disney sequels.

Jasmine and agrabah used to be human, it's mirage's fault that they're like this and she's surprised to find that she's still alive since a mortal human should be dead by now. And since reptiles get bigger the more they age.… Jasmine used to be the scourge of the desert and was made leader kf a bandit clan for her ability to keep people alive. They drove a wicked and cruel sorceress out of agraba (guess who. Even she admits she deserved it), with the help of her horified apprentice (Sadira) and were madr the sultanna and royal guard as a result. Then mirage cursed them as a parting shot and they had to retreat behind a veil for fear of the world outside and what they'd do to the snake women. Mirage turned to her old teacher to lick her wounds and we all know how that went. Mirage cannoy remember why the snake women are angry at her until she sees jasmine and sadira and starts gloating about her curse, which naturally is when it hits her.

It's never explained. He's just there, and the size of a small elephant (twice as wide). Probably magic involved. He's loyal to both girls and rooting for charlotte's crush, so if hiccup makes a move on tiana without her say-so lois makes it clear he shouldn't. They use him as both a house and guard dog, a war elephant and a pack mule.

Tiana SOMEHOW probably has louis the alligator as a pet.

Eamerelda would appear fully human during her walkabouts. She's something of a prohection, something of a ghost. The real her is the esmerelda gargoyle

Okay. It mifht be a bit odd to have paris..... but if we have the BEGINNING of Paris and the Cathedril, still as a thatch roofed stone-wall Fledgeling town it could make sense. we could have them offer art since they haven't many supplies, and when Hiccup admits he's more of a scholar and fighter than an art lover they introduce him to these things called Gargoyles.... including a beautiful woman gargoyle they call 'Esmerelda'. Or She could be mayor either way. I'm not sure how 'conquer the innocent' he would be at this point though. So how about this? He happens uppon the town while prepating for another disney kingdom. It's just a river settlement that he helpa out with some epmire thugs and most of the chapter doesn't even focus on it. He stays in a 'fortress' with a weird design and notes some good-looking statues. The locals are just so frightened by his might they try to offer him tribute, but he's busy thinking and planning the fight ahead and wondering if he's really that scary. Character stuff. Until, when he tries to leave, he notices how little they have for themselces and leave them some money and supplies. They give him gargoyles as thanks and say that Paris will remember him, which is the first time the town gets a name. Gargoyles, being traditionally used to ward off evil, would be an interesting device to have at the tower. Since Grimhilde, mim and Ursula are residents, I don't see the gargoyles as attacking them, but not quick to defend them either. Esemerelda could be a mysterious figure that shows up wandering the tower for a while, never appearing to 'evil' characters. She manifests mostly as a bard-like figure wandering the grounds but Personally co-ordinates the new tower gargoyles and issues orders. If we put paris into the first game storyline, she could be one of the forces that sneak him into the castle. Also? Remember the 'Ariel defending him at an inn' idea? This could be the town. It could be on the way to heaven's peak. If we go with the good and bad succubus queen thing, she'd probably quite like the 'eliza' figure and loathe the 'demona' figure. Actually, Idea. Remember how i suggested the 'human Eliza turned new succubus queen' sub plotline? What if she was worried about being evil but started seeing this gypsy girl around.... I can see them starting a nest together, and maybe being the heavy tower security.

oh, and found this neat undead meg design: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3d/c4/84/3dc484fda056fb63102f94cc3f4557a8.jpg

night. I’ll try to think of more stuff for the other disney girls

hes also never emulated mim…. i think everyone involved agreed that was for the best

I think both. He’s not as evil as they are i think…. Grimhilde being the worst. Ursula’s next, mim’s…. hard to place but up there. Maleficent’s jut extremely bitter. so he probably wouldn’t do it after mim pointed it out anyway. going to bed soon

well she has poison, disguises, and scheming… apples picture hiccup offering everyone apples and trying to hide a grin. Grimhilde immediately punishes him. Mim takes it and asks if he remembered to poison it first. He did not.

did he ever try to emulate Grimhilde? she seems to be worst mother…. except maybe Gothel

well if we go by ‘maleficent’ maleficent, her wings are locked in a case in the old elf castle. let’s say she doesn’t want any wings, she wants HERS. so the first time she’s just bitter, but the next time she can appreciate it and apologises for not doing so. if we go by the ‘aurora is confused and a bit bitter’ idea, one of the first things she could do after waking up is walk around her old home, then follow this mysterious knocking noise…..

if he wears the fluffy overlord collar people could compare him to a vulture. actually, how did maleficent take the wing idea? i imagine she was frustrated when it first happened, but after mellowing out, getting back in touch with her daughter and it ACTUALLY working she’d be flattered. and probably apologise for not appreciating it the first time.

probably yes. we could have a nod to that in that they use them for supply carriages. Idea, what if the wings are magically tied to and created from and armour torso based on his wing-suit from film 2? a literal wing-suit.

hmmm, what if he thinks they’re useless until he meets the wing-maidens? then drags them out again and asks them to show him some tricks? As a child, just hovering or gliding wouldn’t seem like much after all

Hmmm…. i like that, but can i suggest a twist? Rapunzel is moved into the tower and shown around/given a room. she’d probably take to decorating. instead of joining in with gothel, she joins in with her cousins anna and elsa. or one of the future wives…. maybe aurora, i see her as head magic girl for some reason. Gothel, however, tries to coast by without paying anything and the sorceresses trick her into ‘paying’ hiccup personally. hmmm, idea for Cassandra. If we can justify her meeting with Rapunzel during her youth, we can have her blame herself for not saving her and have a parallel ‘childhood friends’ loyalty angle to hiccup and toothless. though Rapunzel’s reaction to meeting her real mother would be REALLY awkward after that. as would gothel’s

okay. but how about, as a nod to her selfishness, she offers her daughter as a price for safety? not sure if she’d tell her. I think i already mentioned my idea of Cassandra tracking them down...

maybe she has bird wings as a result of whatever mutation gave her horns and human height? also, do you have any plans for Rapunzel?

haven’t seen much of the series, but a quick check reveals she can travel as pixie dust

also, think Zarina should learn the ‘pixie dust’ trick

That works. Did they have a falling out? does she miss her sister? also an idea, remember that pixie hollow was going to be a safe place? what if, similar to queen fay in 2, she’s busy casting the spell protecting pixie hollow nonstop and exhausted as a result? she could be half-asleep and spreading dream fairies among the chaos

well it works, so we should build on that. no rush, it just is a really good scene with a lot of potential which fairy by the way? tinkerbell?