Wilde_Guess

41451 [Malone, KY, Population: Maybe. Sah-lyute!]

Hi, Deadman and all. Not really. The better fanfics out there provide interesting counters to canon, and if the canon itself is good, allows for the better appreciation of both. As for what I write beyond what’s posted here, I tend to write “slice-of-life,” “Peggy-Sue” (never to be confused with Mary Sue,) and crossovers. By their very nature, those types of stories are not usually written by the “original” authors. But, even in commercial-land; crossovers, and even character migration can and do happen. And hopefully “Wide Stance” also enjoys this discussion, once they catch up with the tag. 😜 (I’ve done it too, and I’m laughing with you...) Cheers!

Sessakag wrote: Furthest thing from my mind, trust me. 🙃

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This is beyond horrible that this “publishing house” got away with as much as they did. In a fanfic or “derived work,” there are two entities who deserve credit and payment for the work; the author of the “original” work or universe, and the author of the derived/fanfiction work. Full stop. With original fiction, the sole entity entitled to credit and payment is the author of the work. Doing what “Plush House” did is theft, pure and simple. They should be criminally charged for it, and if convicted at trial should have everything taken from them. There is certainly some legal doubt on who should be paid for fanfiction written without a license issued in advance by the original content creator. However, there is no doubt that whomever should get the money, “Plush House” is not and never was it. For the original works, there’s no doubt at all whatsoever. Many people here have either received stacks of form-rejection letters personally, at least looked into vanity publishing, or both; and the rest of us have read of your travails in these forum posts. Plush House have stolen. They are thieves. If they had stuck to cook books, then perhaps they could have made money quietly from the “Internet semi-lazy.” Just get someone with a spatula and a word processor for editing and pizazz, and have at it. Hell, I could have worked for them doing that, at least with some cuisine types. If you publish it on the Internet, it isn’t really a “secret recipe” any more. And, a talented cook and writer can change it up just enough to call it their own. If you know how to cook, I’ve already posted a “secret recipe” in passing, and it’s just waiting to be made in your kitchen. But, being the lazy over-achievers they allegedly are, they didn’t even bother to get releases or even offer token payment. A plague upon their [publishing] house!

Hi, Deadman and all. You aren’t feeling nearly as opposite as you might think. Fanfiction by its very nature is the fanfic author telling a story the original author didn’t see fit to tell, however much of the original author’s universe you preserve in your own. Likewise, if you read a fanfic where the author took too many liberties in their own storytelling, that can also inspire you to pick up the pen as you’ve done. You’re not the only one to start writing fanfiction as a defense against fanfiction that didn’t quite do the job for you. When specifically writing erotic or pornographic fanfic literature, you (or any author) needs to overcome their own internal limits in order to make their writing readable. Your own personal “internal challenges” differ from others’ only in the details. In order to write readable prose, you must be emotionally attached to your characters, and cannot write well if you are not; whether writing erotic literature, pornographic literature, or non-erotic literature. If you’re connected with your characters and your story, you have a greater chance of connecting with the reader. Likewise, if you’re already fully connected with your reader, such as Wilbert Audrey when he first started writing the Thomas the Tank Engine series, you will quickly connect with your characters if you’re any good at all. If you imagination doesn’t go “far enough” to be able to form a “live” image from a manga, anime, or cartoon drawing of a character, that’s fine. You still have plenty to write about. Likewise, if you can’t figure out where all the “extra tentacles” go, that’s also fine. Usagi-Chan is extremely grateful for that, even if some potential readers might be disappointed. Your imagination for what you choose to imagine should be more than sufficient to entertain your readers. If it isn’t, the “next” key works just as well for them as it does for you. And if it really works for them, there is Patreon and Ko-fi, if you can’t quite go mainstream with your writing. “Wilde Guess” isn’t even my “regular” nom de plume. I use it mostly for any writing I do that is sexually explicit, erotic, homoerotic, etc. As for your reason to start writing fanfiction, that’s really close to why I started Third Time’s A Soul Bond. I was totally and thoroughly sick of poorly written, unexplainable-in-canon, and frankly insane slash pairings in HP fanfiction. Seeing very few examples of “semi-logical” slash parings, I created this pen-name just to write that story. On “St. Elsewhere.net,” it’s actually the longest story with that particular pairing. I’ve received fewer reviews on the entire story than a single chapter of the “typical” SS/DM spit-roast of the Boy Who Lived. Oh, well... Riding the Lincoln Way was originally a one shot to cleanse the mental palate from some “train-wreck-bad” “spank-kink” junk I’d encountered in passing. But instead of just posting the junk, I started asking questions. That’s never a smart thing when you expected less than five thousand words total, and thus have no outline to defend yourself from the plot bunnies putting on harness and towing your story out to places you never thought it would go. Hey Joe was the continuation in both directions of two throw-away example scene snippets I wrote in a forum post. Once again, no “outline shield.” To answer @GeorgeGlass’s post directly: I agree with 1. and 3. completely, except for if I’m writing a crack/bash/parody, then 1. will be broken by the very nature of what I’m writing. 2. doesn’t bother me so much. When I’m writing fiction, I envision the fictional character exclusively, even if the character was portrayed in film or television. In the Potterverse, I write about Ron Weasley, Harry Potter, Severus Snape, etc; not Rupert Grint, Daniel Radcliffe, or Alan Rickman. Likewise if my original fiction has historical or modern real people characters, they will never be “main” characters, and anything they do do will either be their historical actions, or non-defamatory actions they would likely have logically taken had the entire story been real life. So, if a group of musically talented kids get some help from a real-life rock star, that’s because had the kids existed in real life, the rock star in question would have helped them. Of course, if I need a fictional character to hold a real-life position somewhere, “Mr. Real Life” never existed, and the fictional character will not resemble “Mr. Real Life” in any way at all whatsoever other than having turfed them out of their jobs and (fictional) existence. This, of course, is just one of many challenges when you insert fictional characters into real-life locations and times, and why its done, but done very very sparingly on the commercial front. But it can be done without legal or other life-changing adverse consequences, as can be witnessed to by Mario Puzo or Allen Drury. Cheers!

What makes me write some fanfiction in some genres but not others? In the end, whether the story I write is NC-17+ or SFW, I have to be able to find a story to tell in that genre. But how do I get there? I have to like the fandom(s) involved, and understand the canon of the fandom(s) enough so that my “changes” make some degree of sense in that universe. Or, I need to loathe the fandom(s) so completely that I will gladly write a story to destroy it. If I’m writing a crack/parody story, I need to understand the trope, genre, or fandom enough to lambaste it properly, and have fun while I’m doing it. After all, you’re probably winning no friends writing Mickey Spillane’s Sponge Bob Square-Pants on the Docks or My Little Pony Vacation—All Knackered Out at Pete’s in Todmorden, so you’d better at least be having a good time with all the enemies you’ll make. In some cases, you can write a “crack” fic, a porn-fest, and a true drama in the same fiction universe at the same time. An example in the School Days fandom would be The Nice-Boating News, Yuuki Shows the Girls How, and Subete no Eikō wa Hakanai Mono. Cheers!

41426 [Falcon KY, Population: Yes. Sah-lyute!]

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Have I ever have a fanfic “go off the rails...”? Yes, but that would be telling. I’ve also had a “one-shot” original work “go off the rails” here or there...

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I am now up to Chapter 11 here, and I’ve been for a while.

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@WillowDarkling, Done. No harm meant, and nice to know. Thanks.

Here’s a preview from Chapter 34. ‘Fuck my life again!’ I thought to myself. I never completely stopped loving Stacy Cook even if I would never completely trust her ever again. And I was beginning to think that Uncle Rick was okay even if he fucked up badly a few times around when I was conceived and born. But, their current take on ‘civility’ left me beyond speechless. I had to intervene, and rather dramatically seeing who I was to the pair of them biologically, to keep them from destroying each other’s lives along with my five siblings and me on my own front lawn. I only asked them for civility. Yet somehow, the two of them decided that while civility was nice, that fucking like rabbits was even better? And Stacy Cook couldn’t possibly have forgotten how light a sleeper Paul was in the months since she last shagged Kopchek, could she? And if she hadn’t started taking her “vitamin stork-killer” again, her last period ended fifteen days before Wednesday night. My body remembered her menstrual cycles because I never caught an even break when she was on them.

Please do not under any circumstances delete my account. For all the people who wish to have their accounts deleted due to the “extended denial of service” attack the AFF Archives have suffered, “you do you.” I would encourage you to not have your accounts deleted just the same. Abandoning your accounts or having them deleted serves only to empower the spineless CARB sewage-quaffers who are attacking this site to continue doing so. There are damned few sites that allow erotic and semi/demi-erotic literature to be posted full-stop. Allowing one to fail due to a lack of authorship means that there is one fewer site, without anyone lining up to start another one. Good luck to all of you, whatever you decide.

Have you tried changing it here too, or just the archives? The archive side is still in “read only” mode, so you can’t change it there. You should be able to change it here, though. Good luck.

Hi, all. Same thing over here. I’ll “lurk” until around 11:00 pm EST. I can (if requested) send browser, o/s, versions, and general area/isp if that will help. First time I’ve been hit with this junk. And, hopefully, it’ll be the last. Thanks for all the hard work in stopping these jerks.

Hello, @WillowDarkling I just found this post after asking the question this post answers in a different thread. Sorry about that. Thanks for the update.

Hello, “Tech Support.” I appreciate making sure that the site is protected from attack, that this is an unpaid hobby competing with full-time jobs, and so on. Really, I do. Is there any update on when the archive site will be “secure enough” to allow story updates again? Or any “target date” you’re trying for? Thanks in advance, and thanks for the many hours you’ve already worked fixing things.

This would work best in the last chapter of the story. As the party entered the chamber, Bolbo Slaggins lighted one of the torches already in to room to provide more light in the dank large cell. Hrothgar sniffed the air warily and opined, “Something’s not right here. The smell...” This was the last word or cogent thought the seven adventuring intrepid heroes had—ever. Rocks fall, everyone dies. Cheers!

I have to agree with you here. It also helps to have the “hero” examine themselves and their motivations without causing them to become “anti-Sues” instead of “Sues.” Seeing the protagonist overcome barriers is usually interesting, even if the barriers are all “in their mind” or not quite reasonable to anyone other than the protagonist themselves. “Could I persuade this annoying gorilla to quit messing with my girlfriend if I quit beating him with a circus mallet? And if he agreed to leave us alone, could I take him at his word? Or will I be forced to keep hitting him until I finally manage to kill him? And how much will I owe the zoo or circus the fucker escaped from when the oversized monkey finally snuffs it?” Thanks.

Hi, all. Back to the “original-original” question, I suppose that the ultimate reason we as readers loathe genuine “Mary-Sue” characters is the boredom they bring to a story, combined with the odd coincidence that most authors who accidentally write a true Mary Sue just aren’t that good. Apart from the infamous “Mary Sue the Author” not being worthy to be spit-roasted by William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy as some might have suggested she desired, her character, prose, and story were BORING, and yes, I deliberately added the extra emphasis to the single word describing that misguided woman’s prose. You can over-power an OC like a “M-F’er;” and get away with it, but you still have to make the story interesting, even if the conflict is “how entertaining will it be for the OC to curb-stomp the near-unbeatable antagonist the regular main character couldn’t handle easily, if at all.” Succeed in this, you’ve written another “James Bond.” Fail, and it’s yet another Mary Sue. Even with all the “problems solved,” your OC must at a minimum solve those problems in a way that rewards the readers for sticking around. Better yet, while your OC may have the “canon” problems solved, they need to solve new problems, even as they help the “canon” heroes grow to new heights. Your OC Targaryen or OC Viserys Targaryen may have dragons and total knowledge of the “canon future.” How does this help retaking the throne from Robert Baratheon? How does it help putting Jon Snow on the throne, or otherwise prepare him to defeat the “Other” and the White-Walkers? Does he rescue at least Eddard Stark and his children, even if Catelyn is allowed to crash-and-burn? How spectacular is it when he has his dragons roast The Twins and all who shelter within them? Does he sell Joffery Baratheon to the Dothraki as a pleasure-slave for their horses? Thanks.