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She probably wouldn't approve. Unlike her father, she's not really a sadist, she just likes teasing people to see their reactions, and the gacha isn't about people's reactions, just money.

Actually, I think Kirei would look at Delight Works and admire them. Because not only do they make people suffer the bitterness of not rolling the Servants they want, people pay for the privilege to roll more, and still not get the Servant they want. People get bitter about bad rolls, and also pay to get more rolls that are also bad, and thank the game for the privilege. Honestly, it's kind of diabolical.

Oh, sometimes I love how shameless Delight Works is: "Hey, you guys have been waiting for Ozymandias? Here he is!" Day after his rate-up ends, "Hey, rolls cost less now! And you know that Da Vinci that everyone has been wanting, that you all raged about how she wasn't actually the Servant in her event? Here she is! Hope you didn't blow all your quartz for Ozzy!" Followed immediately by, "Hey guys, that summer swimsuit event we promised you that you've all been waiting for? It's here now, just after Da Vinci! Hope you didn't spend all your quartz for Ozzy and Da Vinci!"

Well, there's always my pet theory that Shirou's original family was a family of magi, in which case it could be their father having pressured her, saying she needs to win the Grail to bring her mother back to life and fix their family or something. Or there's the Sajyou family, which could then run the route of using Kayneth's method of splitting the contract and having Miyu provide mana while Manaka holds the Command Spells. Bar age. Definitely more about there.

Probably not. Even if she were going to do it, Medea would probably run it by Sakura first and get told no, actual direct mind control is out of the question. But something a little more innocent, that appeals to her romantic side, like a love potion, that would probably be just fine. Miyu, probably in just a normal Japanese household. Given that I'm pretty sure Shirou mentions remembering his mother dying in the fire, and possibly both parents, she'd probably be either on her own or taken in by relatives or something. In which case, the relatives in question could either be rich or not. Kuro would probably at the very least start out in the castle with Illya, but depending how the tension between them develops, she could go out on her own to set up her own base.

Any inevitable Shirou/Rama/Sita threesome would probably have humiliation, them eating Shirou's cum out of each other, etc. The curse still takes some effect, even if they can be together in the same place, they can't "be together" in the Biblical sense, but that only goes as far as actual sex. Foreplay and kissing are fine, but only in the case of someone else (Shirou) being involved, so any kind of action going on between them is only in the middle of a threesome: kissing while Shirou is in the middle of fucking Sita, her sitting on his face and kissing Shirou while he fucks Rama missionary, that sort of things. Medea Lily only really has the Jason thing in Okeanos; the rest of the time, she is nice and sweet and actively tries to be trusting and friendly. For Sakura, she would try to be friends, help her out, get rid of Zouken and the worms (I choose to imagine her NP would "heal" Zouken by reverting him back to the form he would have if not for magic, which would be dead). So after a couple rounds of Pain Breaker, Zouken is gone, and Sakura reverts to how she would be without the worms, so...Tohsaka coloring. After that, she wants to help Sakura get the person she loves, but comes to understand he's just the sort of stupidly honest and heroic that she dreamed of Jason being, and feels bad wanting him, too. Then Sakura tells her flat out, "You freed me from Zouken and his worms. Anything I can do for you, even giving Shirou to you, won't be enough to repay that." So, since they both want him and want the other to have him, threesome. Astolfo...if Shirou summoned him, still in his basic outfit. If Miyu summoned him, then it depends on how much money she has readily available. If she can afford to buy him something, then it would probably be similar to his normal casual outfit. If not, then he would have to borrow her clothes, which would be smaller and tighter, to the point of indecency. Shorts being even shorter, shirts leaving his midriff completely exposed, skirts almost definitely showing that he is, in fact, male... Elizabeth would actually probably take some time. She fears romance, because she thinks it leads to marriage which leads to pregnancy, meaning a bloated stomach, and she is too vain to allow that. That said, she could still have feelings for Shirou but not want to act on them. Then at some point she finds him fucking someone up the ass, and realizes that that would be a way for them to have their relations and not worry about pregnancy at all.

Actually, any chance of getting any confirmation or rejection of anything on that list I posted? Just to be able to trim it down a bit.

Well, he posted a challenge a day or two ago. And honestly, without really knowing anything about where Ichasennin is going with the story, I'm kind of just throwing out the stuff that pops into my head. If he decides to use it, great, if not, that's fine, too. But when I think of something, it just digs at the inside of my head until I post about it. So if anything I post gets used as I suggest it, or just inspires Ichasennin in some way, great, but if he decides on a completely different route, my posting hasn't done any harm.

That doesn't honestly surprise me that much. Arturia is the face of Type Moon, and people like to think that only edgy mother-fuckers like Kiritsugu and EMIYA do the "sacrifice few to save many," when Shirou distinctly sees her memories of pillaging her own villages to get supplies so she could get her army in place before the enemy and defend the country. Putting it most bluntly, waifu-fags don't like thinking that their waifu could have a complicated character, and aren't willing to acknowledge that some negative character traits or being antagonistic don't make them less of a good character. Getting off that note, Ichasennin, since you've said that without a catalyst Zouken would definitely summon a Hassan, I would suggest Hassan of Serenity. For starters...she's just adorable. But, for more value, she's a better Assassin than Hassan of the Cursed Arm, and her Zabaniya is harder to deal with than his, since just touching her is toxic to humans, so combined with her Transformation skill, she could potentially wreak havoc on the Masters if they go out in public. But her wish for the Grail is to have someone she can touch without them dying from her poison, which, if Shirou has a high enough CON or some suitable skill, or just from Avalon, he could probably do that. Adding that in and waiting on any further confirmation for everything else... Confirmed Servant/Master Pairs 1. Saber: Arturia - Master: Shirou 2. Caster: Morgan le Fay - Master: Kayneth 3. Berserker: Mordred - Master: Rin 4. Archer: Heracles - Master: Illya 5. Lancer: Cu Chulainn Master: Bazett/Kirei 6. Rider: Medusa - Master: Sakura/Shinji 7. Archer: Fem!Gil - Master: None 8. Avenger: Dark Iri - Master: Grail 9. ????: ???? - Master: ???? 10. ????: ???? - Master: ???? 11. ????: ???? - Master: ???? 12. ????: ???? - Master: ???? 13. ????: ???? - Master: ???? 14. ????: ???? - Master: ???? 15. ????: ???? - Master: ???? 16. ????: ???? - Master: ???? 17. ????: ???? - Master: ???? Confirmed Servant/Unknown Master Temptress: Kiara Sessyoin - Master: ????(Someone who will get mind-broken. Current suggestions: May Riddel Archelot) Unknown Servant/Confirmed Master Assassin: Expendable/Some Hassan (Hassan of Serenity proposed) - Master: Sola/Zouken Proposed Servant/Master Pairs Ruler: Jeanne - Master: Caren Ortensia Destroyer: Altera - Master: Sajyou Manaka Phantom: Jack the Ripper - Rikudou Reika ????: Sita - Master: Miyu (Not Edelfeldt if she hasn't gotten picked up by Luvia) Summoner: Medb - Master: Celenike Icecolle Yggdmillenia Proposed Servants/Unknown Master Hunter: Atalanta - Master: ???? Crafter: da Vinci - Master: ???? Shielder: Brynhildr - Master: ???? Idol: Stheno/Euryale - Master: ???? Tamer: Martha - Master: ???? ????: Scathach - Master: ???? ????: Medea Lily - Master: ???? ????: Helena Blavatsky - Master: ???? ????: Okita Souji - Master: ???? Proposed Servants that could also be used as Random Encounters Tamamo Kiyohime Shuten Douji Ibaraki Douji Minamoto no Yorimitsu Unknown Servants/Proposed Masters ????: ???? - Master: Luvia ????: ???? - Master: Fiore Forvedge Yggdmillenia ????: ???? - Master: Kuro/Chloe von Einzbern ????: ???? - Master: Bazett (after getting Lancer stolen) ????: ???? - Master: Olga Marie Animusphere ????: ???? - Master: Flat Escardos ????: ???? - Master: Cornelius Alba ????: ???? - Master: Atram Galiast ????: ???? - Master: Rottweil Berzinsky

Consensus on King Hassan seems to be that yes, he is Grand Assassin. "King Hassan" is just a nickname Gudao gives him because have you seen the fucker? From the FGO general thread on 4chan: So he might have something like the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception. Nitocris plausibly has some eldritch powers, considering she shows up in Lovecraft and Nasu and his friends are huge Lovecraft fans. Look at Gilles. And there's also some mention that Arturia is this way because Bedivere fucked up not throwing Excalibur in the lake. Some other points that I read were that she died before he did, he spent 1500 years wandering to try to find her for penance, found his way to Avalon, Merlin sent him back to this Grand Order to make up for it, and remade Excalibur into Bedivere's arm. Also this Arturia apparently became a divine spirit or something because she had Rhongomyniad too long.

Basically, from what I can tell. Alter is supposed to be a version of King Arthur that became part of the Wild Hunt rather than going to Avalon, and in Camelot, they're killing the unworthy. Apparently, Camelot is very utopian for the people in it, just that only the "worthy" are allowed to live there.

Well, originally, I would have said not much, because even Lancer Alter's profile makes a point of saying "Hey, even though she's Alter, she's still totally Arturia at her core." But some of the basic outline of Camelot has been summarized, and oh boy. Apparently, after a Crusade, they blew up Jerusalem, rebuilt Camelot on top of the ruins, and are accepting refugees. Except if the refugees don't meet the standards of Camelot, they kill them. So yeah.

Exactly, spears make an army. Not knights. Although in an actual technical sense, I think I saw someone point out that Rhongomyniad is actually a proper lance instead of a spear like most Lancers have, so they actually need to be mounted in order to use it properly.

Better question: why do only the Lancer Arturias get breasts? That's oppression of all other Arturias. And Saber-faces in general, with the exception of Nero and Jeanne.

No idea. It usually takes a bit of time before the profiles and dialogue are translated at all.

I mean...shit, by now, discounting Santa Alter and Mysterious Heroine X, there's already 5 different versions of Arturia. There's almost enough Arturias to fill a Grail War by herself.

Male, yes, definitely male. Just...very Saber-faced for not being a Saber-face. And...well, she looks very similar to Lancer Alter. I like dem titties.

Bedivere's arm, I'm not 100% sure, but I think I remember some source at some point that said he actually had lost a hand/arm somehow, probably in combat, so I would guess it's a magic prosthetic or something like that. I mean, if Merlin can give Arturia a functional penis, why not give a knight a working arm?

Not as far as I've heard. Also, new link with ascension art for apparently all the new Servants.

Courtesy of the Grand Order reddit and 4chan: Serenity Hassan Nitocris Lancer Arturia

The update adding Camelot isn't until the 25th, so the only images are still the stuff from the commercial and the first card image.

I know, it's awful and evil to break up the yuri, but I just want a hetero fuck-fest, with Genjuro getting it on with everyone. Of course, exact details are up to anyone who takes up the challenge, but I do have a few basic suggestions: Ryouko is just a normal sexual relationship. Tsubasa latches onto Genjuro when she feels abandoned by her father, and they have sex for the first time after Kanade dies. Kanade went to Genjuro early on, saying he's the only man she thinks deserves anything from her and that she wants to make sure she gets her fill of sex before she inevitably dies, either fighting the Noise or from LINKER. The first time with Hibiki is during training in the first season, and she calls him sensei during sex, and later on, sometimes dad/daddy/papa/something else when she starts to feel like he's replacing her father. Chris throws herself at him after Fine's death, wanting some kind of proof that sex can be pleasant and that there's other ways to connect to people than pain, despite what Fine told her. Hibiki's three friends are infatuated after seeing him during the final battle in season one, and decide to go after Genjurou when he shows up at the school as a guest. Between season one and G, Genjurou has to go explain the situation to Hibiki's mother and winds up having sex with her (standard neglected housewife situation), eventually leading to a mother/daughter threesome. Hibiki brings Miku in because she loves Genjurou and Miku, so she should love them together; Miku goes along with it reluctantly because it lets her be with Hibiki, but eventually gets into it herself. Fine temporarily takes over Shirabe's body and uses it to have sex with Genjurou, switching out partway through and getting Shirabe hooked. Once they're out of prison, as Shirabe and Kirika's legal guardian, he has to check on their living situation, when Kirika sees and insists on joining in on seeing Genjurou and Shirabe having sex. Maria wants comforting from feeling useless and to thank him for taking care of Shirabe and Kirika (also TeamMom/TeamDad ship). Carol, seeing how all the Symphogear users feel about Genjurou, decides to hurt them by taking him away from them, but he deals too well with her "upset child angry about her dead daddy" syndrome, and averts most of the problems of GX when she gives up her world destruction plans in favor of making full use of both forms of her body. Use of Autoscorers is totally optional. Probably some daddy kink from Hibiki, Chris, maybe Shirabe and Kirika, and DEFINITELY Carol. Some NTR vibes with Hibiki/Miku and Shirabe/Kirika as Genjurou steals one away, and when Hibiki's dad shows up to find that his wife and daughter have a new man in their lives. Use of the Symphogears encouraged, mostly for the bodysuits. Plausible/suggested three/more-somes: Hibiki/Ryouko Hibiki/Her mom Hibiki/Miku Hibiki/Maria Hibiki/Carol Hibiki/Tsubasa/Chris Tsubasa/Chris Tsubasa/Maria Chris/Miku Chris/Shirabe/Kirika Maria/Carol Maria/Shirabe/Kirika Shirabe/Kirika Hibiki's three friends All the Symphogear users (+Miku if you don't count her as one) Everyone

Honestly, I would say unless it comes up specifically in her profile or something, the question of existence isn't even worth bringing up. The "real or not" issue with Servants is an absolute fucking mess, considering all the retcons and shit that have come out. For example, original FSN, Sasaki is a fake, Medusa and Hercules, totally real. Later materials come out, no, some Heroic Spirits like Medusa and Hercules never actually existed, but humanity believed in them and their stories so hard that they came into existence, while Sasaki, despite not being Sasaki, was really the spirit of some dude who could use Tsubame Gaeshi and was therefore "close enough" to be summoned as Sasaki Kojirou. So to be clear, a complete flip-flop from "Sasaki isn't real, Medusa and Hercules are" to "Sasaki wasn't Sasaki but he was totally a real guy, and Medusa and Hercules never really existed, people just made them up". There's a reason I take most TM lore with not just a grain, but an entire shaker of salt.

Yeah, Raita, same artist as Shuten, too.

No, Diarmuid is part of the Fenian Cycle in Irish myth, and Medb is part of the Ulster Cycle, which took place earlier.