Strange_idea Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 okay, but not right away. we need to spread out his first and second visits to the heartland. It could also be the tower florian uses to slip in and out of, and why he;s able to follow hiccup. that could actually set up a twist, where by rescuing the rebellions florian sets up the end somewhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwsponky Posted June 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, Strange_idea said: okay, but not right away. we need to spread out his first and second visits to the heartland. It could also be the tower florian uses to slip in and out of, and why he;s able to follow hiccup. that could actually set up a twist, where by rescuing the rebellions florian sets up the end somewhere else. I admit that the possibility of spies slipping in alongside the freed slaves had not occurred to me, and the main reason for the idea of the fort would've been to cut off, or at least restrict, there'd probably be land trade routes as well, food to the capital, being the opening move of a fairly long seige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange_idea Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 that works well. it could be used to set up the final fight, a final twost or anything, and also gives us a chance to get to know charlotte and tiana better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange_idea Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 charlotte insists she is tiana’s wife. not hiccups, and he can only have her if they both agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwsponky Posted June 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Strange_idea said: charlotte insists she is tiana’s wife. not hiccups, and he can only have her if they both agree That would be an interesting twist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange_idea Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwsponky Posted June 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, Strange_idea said: night Night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Light_Zone Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 Wow this thread filled! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange_idea Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Red_Light_Zone said: Wow this thread filled! Yeah.... did i write too much? I feel a bit guilty but i really liked where this was going. I did try to invite people to join. Also, good to see you! How are you? And did you like anything you saw here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwsponky Posted June 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Strange_idea said: Yeah.... did i write too much? I feel a bit guilty but i really liked where this was going. I did try to invite people to join. Also, good to see you! How are you? And did you like anything you saw here? Meh, don't feel guilty, suggestions and opinions I asked for, and suggestions and opinions you gave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange_idea Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Jwsponky said: Meh, don't feel guilty, suggestions and opinions I asked for, and suggestions and opinions you gave Just trying to bring people into thr conversation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwsponky Posted June 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 20 minutes ago, Strange_idea said: Just trying to bring people into thr conversation Fair enough, but to be blunt, I think that besides me, you are the only person who really cares about my idea, at least until I actually get it written Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange_idea Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 darn. well i do believe in this, so there’s that. thought if you do read this RED_LIGHT_ZONE please give feedback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange_idea Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 So, while i stand by dark legends not giving us mich to work with, if we mix the voodoo ladybfrom princess and the frof and dorris the witch, we could have her teach tiana to make livijg gingerbread men as couriers and soldiers. They'd make great underground agents for the resistance, they're completely disposable and hiccup's reaction would be hilarious If you've seen firefly you know how much power and knowledge charlotte potentially has. Though as 'head of the union" tiana probably hears all the gossip. People ignore servants and slaves, they tend to tslk in front of them. Though with charlotte, they'd probably brag about their posisition or 'secret orders' to make themselves feel big. With tiana's gossip access confriming which is real or empty talk she could know almost everything in the empire. Once she gets started of course. I feel we should mix the frog thing in, but i'm not sure how. Maybe she's turned into a frog the first time hiccup comes by and charlotte forces him to stay until she's changed back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwsponky Posted June 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, Strange_idea said: So, while i stand by dark legends not giving us mich to work with, if we mix the voodoo ladybfrom princess and the frof and dorris the witch, we could have her teach tiana to make livijg gingerbread men as couriers and soldiers. They'd make great underground agents for the resistance, they're completely disposable and hiccup's reaction would be hilarious If you've seen firefly you know how much power and knowledge charlotte potentially has. Though as 'head of the union" tiana probably hears all the gossip. People ignore servants and slaves, they tend to tslk in front of them. Though with charlotte, they'd probably brag about their posisition or 'secret orders' to make themselves feel big. With tiana's gossip access confriming which is real or empty talk she could know almost everything in the empire. Once she gets started of course. I feel we should mix the frog thing in, but i'm not sure how. Maybe she's turned into a frog the first time hiccup comes by and charlotte forces him to stay until she's changed back. The idea of the slaves overhearing gossip has merit, but I must admit the only firefly I am aware of that has any connection to Charlotte is the character Ray who happens to be from the same movie... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Light_Zone Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 4 hours ago, Strange_idea said: Yeah.... did i write too much? I feel a bit guilty but i really liked where this was going. I did try to invite people to join. Also, good to see you! How are you? And did you like anything you saw here? Don't be guilty, its good to see somany sugestions. Im fine btw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange_idea Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 I meant the series firelfy. The line vetween geisha.and prostitute has blurred even further and they've unionised. You don't want yo tick off the Intergalactic pleasure union. She's a very useful characyer for infiltration, sweet talking, high society knowledge etc. And also good with a gun Hey RED_LIGHT_ZONE. What do you think of the ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwsponky Posted June 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Red_Light_Zone said: Don't be guilty, its good to see somany sugestions. Im fine btw Any comments or suggestions of your own about any of the suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange_idea Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 Actually i can see the sorceresses reacying with horror at the explanation amd Queen Idunna smugly telling hiccup (in front of them) 'And that's why you always respect your staff' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwsponky Posted June 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Strange_idea said: I meant the series firelfy. The line vetween geisha.and prostitute has blurred even further and they've unionised. You don't want yo tick off the Intergalactic pleasure union. She's a very useful characyer for infiltration, sweet talking, high society knowledge etc. And also good with a gun Hey RED_LIGHT_ZONE. What do you think of the ideas? I have heard of said series, I have never watched it though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange_idea Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 It's worth it. It was cancelled criminally short, but would have been joss whedon's magnum pus if it had kept going. Jus make sure you watch in the right order, the network idiots messed up eposode order, among.other things. Train job comes second. They showwd the pilot halfway through the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwsponky Posted June 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Strange_idea said: It's worth it. It was cancelled criminally short, but would have been joss whedon's magnum pus if it had kept going. Jus make sure you watch in the right order, the network idiots messed up eposode order, among.other things. Train job comes second. They showwd the pilot halfway through the season Okay... I assume this 'Joss Whedon' is a director of some manner?.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange_idea Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 Yes. He's a television director famous for mixing genres or doing twists on thrm his work typically has an urban spin or uses casual conversation to geat effect, forgoing the grammar-ness to acheive a casualification of speaking. Like that Heavy pop culture influences He did buffy, the first couple of avengers movies, angel, dollhouse, doctor horrible's sing along blog and others Funny thing is whem he wrote his first script, they thought he was an idiot for trying to be scary and funny at the same time and micro-managed it so bad the actors were campaigning against a sequel even on set. Then they let him do his own thing on tv and the rest is history. Any ideas in the frog thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwsponky Posted June 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 12 minutes ago, Strange_idea said: Yes. He's a television director famous for mixing genres or doing twists on thrm his work typically has an urban spin or uses casual conversation to geat effect, forgoing the grammar-ness to acheive a casualification of speaking. Like that Heavy pop culture influences He did buffy, the first couple of avengers movies, angel, dollhouse, doctor horrible's sing along blog and others Funny thing is whem he wrote his first script, they thought he was an idiot for trying to be scary and funny at the same time and micro-managed it so bad the actors were campaigning against a sequel even on set. Then they let him do his own thing on tv and the rest is history. Any ideas in the frog thing? Of those, I've only heard of the Avengers... and only seen the first one of them… Drawing a blank on how the transformation would be brought about... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange_idea Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 Darn.... thought it would be a good way to hint that the empire isn't as anti magic as it seems. Maybe there's a slight leak from the vat into the sewers/slave town and tiana gets exposed. A quarantine could be set up blocking her from getting to the witch granny, which stalls hiccup and forces him to get to know them and cause a distraction, leading to his starting the rebellion. Charlotte is probably very hands about the attempt on so as to save tiana quicker. And probably carrying tiana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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