GeorgeGlass Posted February 10, 2014 Report Posted February 10, 2014 When I'm writing, I typically separate my paragraphs with a vertical space (ie, a paragraph mark). AFF seems to insert such spaces automatically when I post a story, so I have to go back and delete my extra spaces. Also, sometimes I don't WANT a space between 2 lines (eg, if they are part of a list or a schedule), but I can't seem to make the spacing go away. Is there a way to deal with this? Quote
DemonGoddess Posted February 10, 2014 Report Posted February 10, 2014 Okay, are you copy/pasting from a word processor and using "paste from Word"? Thing is, when you hit the enter key, the wordprocessor AND the rte both see that as a paragraph break. So, if you hit enter twice, it'll see it as 2 paragraph breaks and add the extra line. To create a line break without it being a paragraph, you use ctrl+enter Quote
BronxWench Posted February 10, 2014 Report Posted February 10, 2014 If you use Word 2010, the "Normal Spacing" style setting will give you a blank line between paragraphs without adding another paragraph break. Quote
GeorgeGlass Posted February 10, 2014 Author Report Posted February 10, 2014 So what you seem to be saying is that there is no way to turn off the automatic spacing. I asked because the other sites where I post don't have this feature, so any story that I want to post there AND here has to be reformatted for AFF. Quote
BronxWench Posted February 10, 2014 Report Posted February 10, 2014 How do you add content on that other site? I'm going to guess it's not an RTE? Quote
GeorgeGlass Posted February 11, 2014 Author Report Posted February 11, 2014 I just copy and paste into a text box, like I do here. (I've tried using "Paste from Word" here, too, but it doesn't seem to affect the result.) Quote
BronxWench Posted February 11, 2014 Report Posted February 11, 2014 It's another RTE, then? I'm curious, because I know AO3 also has the line duplication issue in its RTE. I'll have to poke about and test it, but the "Paste from Word" option should preserve the formatting, including the style setting. One of my Luddite tendencies is that I still like the illusion that each "enter" is a carriage return, so I have "No spacing" as my default style in Word. Quote
DemonGoddess Posted February 11, 2014 Report Posted February 11, 2014 What word processor are you using? Quote
GeorgeGlass Posted March 5, 2014 Author Report Posted March 5, 2014 Sorry I've been so slow to respond. I use Word 2010 for Windows. This issue is even more important to me now because I have a poem that I would like to post, and double-spacing will make it hard to tell where one verse stops and the next begins. Quote
DemonGoddess Posted March 5, 2014 Report Posted March 5, 2014 Well, the extra line spacing reappeared after an upgrade to the rte. I have since upgraded it again, and have not tested whether or not this is fixed yet. Quote
GeorgeGlass Posted March 5, 2014 Author Report Posted March 5, 2014 Then I'll give it a try and let you know what happens. Quote
GeorgeGlass Posted March 5, 2014 Author Report Posted March 5, 2014 (edited) No luck--it came out double-spaced no matter which of the three Paste buttons I used. However, with all 3 Paste buttons, I got a pop-up text box with the message below. Maybe if I somehow changed my browser settings so that I could paste directly into the box, it would keep my text single-spaced. That said, the double-spacing really doesn't look as bad as I expected, so it's not that big a deal. Because of your browser security settings, the editor is not able to access your clipboard data directly. You are required to paste it again in this window. Please paste inside the following box using the keyboard (Ctrl/Cmd+V) and hit OK Edited March 5, 2014 by GeorgeGlass Quote
Guest Magusfang Posted June 2, 2014 Report Posted June 2, 2014 Mine is doing the same thing, but if the readers don't gripe about, I'm not going to. Oh, and cand you tone down you're spam checker, the one word is fine, but the distorted one is giving me seizures... Quote
DemonGoddess Posted June 2, 2014 Report Posted June 2, 2014 It's the standard recaptcha. I have nothing to do with the images that display. That's all determined by the service itself. Quote
GeorgeGlass Posted July 23, 2014 Author Report Posted July 23, 2014 Look, a dead horse! [cuts switch, warms up arm] I'm currently writing a story in which vertical spacing is extremely important. It's an all-dialogue story with two characters, and I use the spacing as a way of showing who is speaking: If the lines are immediately adjacent, then the two characters are speaking alternately, whereas if there is a space between two lines, then it is the same character speaking with a pause in between his or her lines of dialogue. I can't think of another way to achieve the same effect without altering the pace of the story (eg, using script-like dialogue headings). Has any solution been found to the mandatory-spacing-between-paragraphs problem? Quote
BronxWench Posted July 23, 2014 Report Posted July 23, 2014 Not as far as I can tell. I use either LibreOffice or Word 2010, and even in the "No Spacing" style, I get the extra line between paragraphs. It's not all that hard to edit it out in the RTE before I publish, or if I'm feeling up to it, I remove the lines before I copy and paste. My Word file looks awful (I don't save the version with deleted spaces between paragraphs, of course) but it posts perfectly in the RTE. Quote
GeorgeGlass Posted July 23, 2014 Author Report Posted July 23, 2014 It's not all that hard to edit it out in the RTE before I publish, or if I'm feeling up to it, I remove the lines before I copy and paste. My Word file looks awful (I don't save the version with deleted spaces between paragraphs, of course) but it posts perfectly in the RTE. What is it you do in the RTE? I just tried messing around with it, and the only way I found to do it was to remove the paragraph break and insert blank spaces until the first word of the next paragraph moves down to the start of the next line. Is that what you do? And what do you do in the Word file? I always take out the extra paragraph breaks before I post to AFF, but this doesn't do away with the extra space--it just keeps there from being even more extra space. In any case, thanks for the quick response. Quote
BronxWench Posted July 23, 2014 Report Posted July 23, 2014 Luddite that I am, I merely backspace out the extra lines in the RTE, since it's generally an extra paragraph break that gets inserted by me that gets doubled. I do exactly the same in the Word file. Since I use the "No Spacing" format, I don't get the automatic space between paragraphs when I type. I have to manually insert those breaks with the "enter" key when I type, so before I post, I just remove that paragraph break between the paragraphs, and the formatting retains the paragraph break at the end of the last line of the paragraph. This is a legacy, mind you, from having begun to write on a manual typewriter with a black and red cloth ribbon. I treat paragraph breaks as carriage returns. Quote
GeorgeGlass Posted July 23, 2014 Author Report Posted July 23, 2014 Luddite that I am, I merely backspace out the extra lines in the RTE, since it's generally an extra paragraph break that gets inserted by me that gets doubled. I do exactly the same in the Word file. Since I use the "No Spacing" format, I don't get the automatic space between paragraphs when I type. I have to manually insert those breaks with the "enter" key when I type, so before I post, I just remove that paragraph break between the paragraphs, and the formatting retains the paragraph break at the end of the last line of the paragraph. Having reread your post and looked at the spacing in several of your stories, I think we're not quite talking about the same thing. You seem to be talking about not having EXTRA space between paragraphs, whereas I'm talking about not having ANY space between paragraphs. That is, I would like to be able to have no more space between 2 separate paragraphs than there is between 2 lines of the same paragraph. Is there any way of doing that? (Short of turning the whole story into one giant paragraph and then separating the 'paragraphs' by using tabs or spaces to force each one down to the next line, which would be time-consuming.) Quote
BronxWench Posted July 24, 2014 Report Posted July 24, 2014 I have never tried that. O.o But looking at it logically, until the RTE stops inserting an extra space, the only other option is to use html, I'd think. But even that might not work in the archive itself. The < br > code would give you the return with no spacing. I've never tried that in the archive within a chapter, though. It does work in the review boards. Quote
GeorgeGlass Posted July 24, 2014 Author Report Posted July 24, 2014 I have never tried that. O.o But looking at it logically, until the RTE stops inserting an extra space, the only other option is to use html, I'd think. But even that might not work in the archive itself. The < br > code would give you the return with no spacing. I've never tried that in the archive within a chapter, though. It does work in the review boards. Well I'll be darned, you've solved it. I don't even have to use html; I can just use Find/Replace in Word to replace my paragraph breaks with manual line breaks. I tried that just now and pasted the result into the text editor, and lo and behold, the paragraph spacing was gone. Thank you! Quote
BronxWench Posted July 24, 2014 Report Posted July 24, 2014 You're welcome! I'm glad I triggered a solution for you! Quote
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