Vocabulary Turn-offs

[Avarion]

2) The hymen. If you're going to mention "maidenhead" or "virginity" at least get your anatomy straight. It's OUTSIDE. It's always there until a woman gives birth. It has a hole in it to allow entrance. Women don't always bleed. It doesn't always hurt. Guys don't always notice it. I know it's romantic to talk about a first lover taking a woman's virginity, but, please, at least be true to basic female anatomy.

Agreed wholeheartedly. I can't stand it being referred to as a 'barrier' for some reason. Just bothers the hell out of me. Some virginal women already have broken hymens before they have sex; does it really have to factor in every first-time sex scene? Ugh.

[scottishfae]

So basically, from what I'm reading, there is a general consensus that sex scenes need to avoid clinical words that make it seem impersonal and well, unsexy. At the same time, writers should avoid using cliches and definitely think very carefully when applying their own metaphors to anatomy and sexual acts.

I think sometimes what happens is that people who aren't as well...versed...in the material they are writing about take the 2nd+ hand experience of others and morph that into their fiction writing. Then we get these sloppy, unsexy scenes which we all cringe over (or most of us since a lot of it still does well on this site).

Oh...and I still think "man-meat" is one of the funniest things I've heard all week.

[angeicmar]

The only one of the few vocabulary turn-offs I have is something that I've seen more than once, and usually from writers who don't have English as their first language, so I try not to get bent out of shape about it.

Poop-chute/shoot.

It grates. Sets my teeth on edge. Makes me cringe. Butthole is also a word that bothers me, but mainly cause it makes me giggle.

I don't mind pussy or cunt, provided they aren't used as insults. And really, when I'm having sex, it turns me on to hear my boyfriend talk about my vagina in those terms. But, like so many things, this kind of thing is subjective.

[Guest Zyx]

The anus shouldn't even be mentioned, ever.

Anal sex is everything that is wrong with our society >_>

[Calanthee]

The anus shouldn't even be mentioned, ever.

Anal sex is everything that is wrong with our society >_>

Yes Zyx My Lord, you should Know... and we must obey Amen Cal

[shinigamiinochi]

actually, anal sex is one of the few good things about our society ^^

[Kettle]

The anus shouldn't even be mentioned, ever.

Anal sex is everything that is wrong with our society >_>

Uh, no.

[Melrick]

Hooray for anal sex!

Anyway, back to the point of this forum... one thing that annoys me is when people write "off of". For example: "The guy got off of the chair and answered the door." The "of" is not needed! I admit that this is something I used to do in my early days of writing, but I soon learnt the error of my ways.

[Lightsshadow]

actually, anal sex is one of the few good things about our society ^^

Here Here!

[Avarion]

On anal sex, don't knock it 'til you've tried it

And I agree with Melrick's gripe with 'off of'. Very annoying.

[Kimmy_Nagasaki]

First of all, everything I've read about Vocab-wise I totally agree with! Woot! As long as their mixing it up I'm super happy.

Another thing that irks me in stories is when they don't leave space between each paragraph and it's looks like on giant run on. It's not so much vocab as it is grammar, but If the paragraph looks like it's going on forever I can't read it. I need some space between them!

another thing. Anal is amazing and almost as great as regular sex. Don't hate

[Calanthee]

The anus shouldn't even be mentioned, ever.

Anal sex is everything that is wrong with our society >_>

Zyxy Critic in case you haven't noticed, everyone disagrees with you...According the forum count Anal Sex Rules!!! Numerious stories on AFF can't seem to do without it! What would you have us replace it with knitting or embroadary??? Even in politics everybody gets screwed in public.

List of words Zyxy wont like near and close to Anus: alley, butt hole, channel, drill door, eyelet, flue, gate, hole, inlet, jar,knob,lair, mouth, niche, orifice, pucker, quiver, rear, sanctum, tunnel, unprepared, vent, wicket, Yaoi spot, Zyx!

Cal the ASS aSS in

[shinigamiinochi]

I'm also pretty sure that the rising gas prices in this country isn't the fault of anal sex or homelessness or war or... actually, there isn't a single problem in this country that can be blamed on anal sex. I know several women who prefer anal to vaginal penetration. I mean, if it's so wrong, why does it feel so good? I don't really see a problem with it. I don't like 'water sports', but I don't go around ranting that it's the cause of all our problems. That's up there with saying that all the bad things in America are because homosexuals want to get married.

[Guest Zyx]

let me rephrase: Anal sex is a perfect example of everything that is wrong with our society.

and I'd once again like to mention america isn't the only country in the world.

[shinigamiinochi]

well, the gay marriage thing still applies because I'm using it as an analogy and no matter what country you're from, I don't think a non-lethal form of sex is causing problems for your society, unless you're one of those people who thinks that the bible is a manual and we're all going to hell. If you really want to knock something, why non autoerotic asphyxiation, which has actually killed people? You say that anal sex is wrong, could you possibly give us some examples of why you think that, or is this one of those 'I think it's icky and don't have to explain myself' rants? (can't call it an argument, because, as Monty Python has explored, it isn't an argument without reasons)

[Guest Zyx]

I think your definition of what's wrong with our society just differs to much from mine for you to understand. You seem to greatly value the preservation of human life while I think a few people dying doing what they love is not such a bad thing. Anal sex is wrong imo for other reasons:

-It has become nazi germany.

-Nope, that's pretty much all the reason I need.

I don't really mind fetishes and I wouldn't mind this one if it was just a healthy 0.5% of the worlds population doing it. But it's not, it's more like 35% and that means they don't have to deal with being a minority in what they like. It means they can talk about it without being lynched and it means they can lynch other people firmly believing they're normal. So anal sex sucks, because it's becoming normal when it's by definition not normal.

[angeicmar]

I think your definition of what's wrong with our society just differs to much from mine for you to understand. You seem to greatly value the preservation of human life while I think a few people dying doing what they love is not such a bad thing. Anal sex is wrong imo for other reasons:

-It has become nazi germany.

-Nope, that's pretty much all the reason I need.

I don't really mind fetishes and I wouldn't mind this one if it was just a healthy 0.5% of the worlds population doing it. But it's not, it's more like 35% and that means they don't have to deal with being a minority in what they like. It means they can talk about it without being lynched and it means they can lynch other people firmly believing they're normal. So anal sex sucks, because it's becoming normal when it's by definition not normal.

Ummm . . . under all sodomy laws - which are supposed to define sexual "normalcy" - oral sex is also considered to be not normal. So blowjobs are ALSO what's wrong with the world today, by your definition. *chortle* Also means they suck, lol.

Also, "normal" is totally subjective, so saying that any type of sexual behavior is "not normal" just means that you shouldn't personally do it. I believe that whatever people want to do behind closed doors is their business, as long as they aren't, you know, filming it and putting up on the internet. *shrug* Just my $0.02

[Lightsshadow]

Ummm . . . under all sodomy laws - which are supposed to define sexual "normalcy" - oral sex is also considered to be not normal. So blowjobs are ALSO what's wrong with the world today, by your definition. *chortle* Also means they suck, lol.

Also, "normal" is totally subjective, so saying that any type of sexual behavior is "not normal" just means that you shouldn't personally do it. I believe that whatever people want to do behind closed doors is their business, as long as they aren't, you know, filming it and putting up on the internet. *shrug* Just my $0.02

Deffo. agree with this.

Normalcy is defined merely by current degree of practice. If it is currently a third of the population (that admit) to this, then it would appear this IS one of the many norms within society. And perhaps the percentage could be higher if people weren't made to feel it 'isn't normal'. In a liberated society mature adults may discuss their practices without fear of being judged as 'not normal' through their actions in the privacy of the bedroom.

Not that it isn't perfectly valid to have a belief to the contrary so long as it isn't forced on others - 'if it harms none, do as you will'

[shinigamiinochi]

if you're saying that 'normal' is something that ins't 'natural', then, well, animals do anal, too (eyes neighbor's dogs). Who cares about 'normal' anyway? Not too long ago, homosexuality wasn't considered normal. Just because something's normal doesn't mean that it's healthy or right. Just do what you like to do. I am more concerned with something killing people than something that people either don't or do think is normal. Either anal sex is normal or not, make up your mind. What you're talking about is an idea in the past (anal sex not being normal) vs. current ideas (anal sex is normal). I think I'll go with the one that's more prevalent to our present and not our past.

[Melrick]

Look, I think we can all agree that Zyx is completely and utterly wrong, so let's either end this argument or take it out of this particular thread and start a new one in the appropriate place. This thread wasn't started to argue about what type of sex is right or wrong; it was meant to be about vocabulary boo-boo's.

[schrodinger]

Majority of euphemisms, usually because they are crap/hilariously awful or they are used inappropriately -quickest way in the world to lose an erection in my opinion.

(there really are appropriate way to use them, just many people fail to do so)

...That and I'm a freak who likes clinical terms with a side of lab coats.

Man-meat just reminds me the world could use some more graphic cannibalism in it's erotic fiction.

[Anonymous_Nanotyrannus]

I like erotica more than smut, so I do enjoy more "flowerly, poetic" terms, but not just explosively poetic. Seriously, I'm reading a piece because I want porn, not a work by Wordsworth.

I do play around with more blunt terms when using dialogue or writing in the POV of certain characters. I would not expect a lowerclass individual to refer to a woman's vagina a "her internal fleshy flower", but rather just call it a "pussy". I like it when other authors think like that too.

I hate the word "asshole" when used to describe the body part. It's just really, really crude. Pussy is the same exact way, and dick is too. Cock, I'm absolutely fine with, mainly because it's the only one that is not used to describe a personality type.

Blunt terms annoy me. They cut love scenes short. Honestly, they make a scene sound like an 18 year old male wrote it. And we need better terms for the vagina. I hate reading a piece that makes me think it is a guy screwing the victim of a car accident.

My list:

Asshole

dick

pussy

pussy juices

juices

fuck (as a verb)

cunt

clit

slit

gash

hole

butthole (the body part)

semen

sperm

cum

cumming

comming (because it's mispelled)

come (mispelled)

[shinigamiinochi]

I hate flowery terms or euphimisms. I guess I approach literary sex in the same way that I approach dating: I want things to be called what they are, not things that just sound pretty, but that's just me. I don't really find anything nasty in calling things by their real names. I'd rather call a cock and cock and not someone's 'manhood'. I guess it's the English major in me.

[JayDee]

Man-meat just reminds me the world could use some more graphic cannibalism in it's erotic fiction.

I'm doing my bit with the graphic cannibalism...

[shinigamiinochi]

What genius (note the sarchasm) thought of 'schlong'? Some hentai censors certain words like 'pussy' by doing the annoying bleeping thing and putting stars in the word on the subtitles (as if anyone can't figure out what is being said) and for awhile, this certain anime had Sc***** and I couldn't figure out what it was. I just don't understand how that word got started, but I hate seeing it. It's not even a real word. It sounds more like a comic book sound affect.