sex toys in stories

[Wilde_Guess]

Hi, all.

1 hour ago, Deadman said:

Yeah, I can’t put in the effort to do something like that. Which is why I separate them out and do more explicit stuff separate from narrative driven cleaner stuff.

Though that might even be changing. I have ideas about putting some of the explicit chapters from my narrative driven content up on this platform.

You can edit a “double-version” of a story manually.  @Desiderius Price just happens to be good at writing a lot of things beyond prose, so he plays to his strengths.

Unless you’re going for “fanservice in every bite,” you can “porn-up” or “porn-down” most writing, most of the time, if the setting of your story allows for sex at all.  The exceptions happen when either the very existence of the story hinges on a “questionable” circumstance, or the happenings of the story “demand” explicit descriptions.  Not enough sex, follow them into the shower/bedroom/etc.  Too much sex, “fade to black” and pick it back up when they’re basking in the afterglow.  You can also change the “impact” of a sex scene by either providing the reason for it, denying the reason for it, or making it obvious that there is no reason for it.

Cheers!

[Desiderius Price]

5 hours ago, Deadman said:

Yeah, I can’t put in the effort to do something like that. Which is why I separate them out and do more explicit stuff separate from narrative driven cleaner stuff.

Ages ago I tried it with separate styles in open office… nah, it’s easiest for me if it’s with the software I wrote.   For small differences within a sentence, got one way where it’s like… “Harry modeled his {new clothes|birthday suit} across the dance floor”.  For larger differences, it’s setting the rating for a particular set of paragraphs (or entire chapter), which then reads like

Quote

Harry entered Hogwarts.
@2
“Hello Sexy,” Ginny said.
Ginny ripped Harry’s clothes off.
@0
“What are you up to?” Ron asked.

That does require a bit of mental gymnastics to keep the dual versions in mind as I write.  However, I’ve gotten the knack down since I started really doing it for this rewrite.  It’s even led to one particular spot in Halloween where the narrative technically moved between the versions; mainly because I could show a particular beat-up happening in explicit, so I didn’t need the Dumbledore meeting recap that’s in the cleaner version.

And while I do use the software for Jefferey, I’m mainly leveraging it for its formatting capabilities, as the software has flags I can set for which website the HTML is being generated for, tailored for what FF.net vs AO3 vs AFF allow during story-text import.

[Desiderius Price]

5 hours ago, Wilde_Guess said:

Hi, all.

You can edit a “double-version” of a story manually.  @Desiderius Price just happens to be good at writing a lot of things beyond prose, so he plays to his strengths.

Unless you’re going for “fanservice in every bite,” you can “porn-up” or “porn-down” most writing, most of the time, if the setting of your story allows for sex at all.  The exceptions happen when either the very existence of the story hinges on a “questionable” circumstance, or the happenings of the story “demand” explicit descriptions.  Not enough sex, follow them into the shower/bedroom/etc.  Too much sex, “fade to black” and pick it back up when they’re basking in the afterglow.  You can also change the “impact” of a sex scene by either providing the reason for it, denying the reason for it, or making it obvious that there is no reason for it.

Cheers!

Writing creative stories was a learned thing…. I’ve been playing with software too in support of the writing habit.

And yep, writing two different versions illustrates this.  (I was considering three at the start of this revision, but realized that’d be way, way too complicated.)  Because it quickly becomes more than simply “porn-up” vs “port-down”.  I’ve relegated entire scenes/chapters/plot-threads to explicit side only because it’s either 1) high sexual, or 2) theme/thread is more than I want in cleaner, or 3) mental gymnastics to a particular scene/chapter are such that it became super complicated to write mix, so I simply wrote explicit only and not bother with clean, or 4) the cleaner version, because it’s now shorter in length, would effectively “dwell” there too long for pacing.

In the start, it was light differences too.  For instance, the initial scene, while I do make it clear even in clean that Ron’s starkers when Ginny tricks him down to the living room (with a stiffy), and Professor McGonagall comes to the Weasley home to talk with Ron; in the explicit I’ve got Fred cursing Ron’s cock into an ejaculation – aside from the embarrassment to Ron, a mild difference.   A theme that’s explicit is Ginny’s sense of entitlement to Harry (Harry’s got a different girl), so this is where I’ve got a scene of Ginny secretly using a magical vibrator (that also conceals her) while viewing a nearby starkers Harry, pleasuring herself. 

However, the biggest difference is the role that Ash plays.  Ash’s an original character I created, a first year (when Harry’s year six), as a foil to Harry helping Oliver Wood in teaching those first years’ flying lesson.  Ash...has issues.  And after a short bit in both, became clear chapters later that one way Ash coped with those issues is to go around his business in Hogwarts, starkers.  While that’s fun and all to write, Ash’s mostly been banished to the explicit version only; however, he’s invaluable as I realized he’s filling in what had been a weak point of my story (affairs inside Hogwarts became more and more “diminished” as Harry is suspended for weeks/months).

The differences quickly compound beyond simple “porn up” vs “porn down”.  It’s to the point where there’s spots where I’ve got like eight good chapters in explicit to one light one in cleaner.  Right now, the word ratio is running close to 3:1 between the two versions.

[GeorgeGlass]

I'm not always big on using sex toys in stories (I tend to prefer the "hands-on" approach). But if the story is set in a world with magic or advanced technology, I sometimes feel that I'm wasting an opportunity if I DON'T include at least one special toy. 

[Desiderius Price]

1 hour ago, GeorgeGlass said:

I'm not always big on using sex toys in stories (I tend to prefer the "hands-on" approach). But if the story is set in a world with magic or advanced technology, I sometimes feel that I'm wasting an opportunity if I DON'T include at least one special toy. 

I usually have enough sex in my stories that having some variety might be good.  (Though yes, usually it’s hands-on).

[Wilde_Guess]

Hi, all.

6 hours ago, Desiderius Price said:

I usually have enough sex in my stories that having some variety might be good.  (Though yes, usually it’s hands-on).

Good (or even passable) erotic writing, like writing in general needs to have enough resemblance to real life that the reader is willing to read it.  Since “marital appliances” really exist, then they enter fiction as well, whether to erotic or humorous purpose.

“But X¬˚∆øˆ˙˙, that toy doesn’t work for our species!  Don’t worry, kΩ≈ç, it wlll.  And, two hours, they realized that it did.”

Cheers!

[Desiderius Price]

7 hours ago, Wilde_Guess said:

Hi, all.

Good (or even passable) erotic writing, like writing in general needs to have enough resemblance to real life that the reader is willing to read it.  Since “marital appliances” really exist, then they enter fiction as well, whether to erotic or humorous purpose.

“But X¬˚∆øˆ˙˙, that toy doesn’t work for our species!  Don’t worry, kΩ≈ç, it wlll.  And, two hours, they realized that it did.”

Cheers!

I go for the realism factor in my writing, hence the desire to balance it both ways, some times with toys/aids, other times, without.  And sometimes, a carrot,  chocolate syrup, or maple syrup works.  However, this reminds me of Ash & Buck in my potter fanfic, get a double-ended vibrating dildo made with their cocks; misplace it, and come down to breakfast with Buck’s mother mixing pancake batter with it.

 

[Deadman]

On 5/14/2023 at 12:36 PM, GeorgeGlass said:

I'm not always big on using sex toys in stories (I tend to prefer the "hands-on" approach). But if the story is set in a world with magic or advanced technology, I sometimes feel that I'm wasting an opportunity if I DON'T include at least one special toy. 

Yes, I know that feeling well. I enjoy a more “hands-on” approach but I have sometimes wondered if I should use include them. There was one story I wrote recently and I kinda wanted there to be toys. But it just seemed more fun to go without.

[Desiderius Price]

2 minutes ago, Deadman said:

Yes, I know that feeling well. I enjoy a more “hands-on” approach but I have sometimes wondered if I should use include them. There was one story I wrote recently and I kinda wanted there to be toys. But it just seemed more fun to go without.

Guess it depends on how many encounters you’ve got too.  First sex—hands on.  Subsequent, some couples would experiment.

[Deadman]

12 minutes ago, Desiderius Price said:

Guess it depends on how many encounters you’ve got too.  First sex—hands on.  Subsequent, some couples would experiment.

True but that can also be fun to play with. For instance, I’ve written stories where someone being sexually aggressive introduces the idea of toys, or the use of them, to work up to the more “hands-on” approach.

[Desiderius Price]

33 minutes ago, Deadman said:

True but that can also be fun to play with. For instance, I’ve written stories where someone being sexually aggressive introduces the idea of toys, or the use of them, to work up to the more “hands-on” approach.

Of course.  Like any rule of thumb, break it, subvert expectations!  Heck, have a dildo fall out of the teacher’s desk.

[Deadman]

14 minutes ago, Desiderius Price said:

Of course.  Like any rule of thumb, break it, subvert expectations!  Heck, have a dildo fall out of the teacher’s desk.

For sure, although you probably shouldn’t be breaking toys. Some people might not want to be subverted too.

[Desiderius Price]

11 minutes ago, Deadman said:

For sure, although you probably shouldn’t be breaking toys. Some people might not want to be subverted too.

That’s half the fun…   More seriously, yeah, there’s reddits and tales on the internet about things that shouldn’t have been put up the bum.  Entertaining and full of ideas when baby carrots vanish up there!

[Deadman]

21 hours ago, Desiderius Price said:

That’s half the fun…   More seriously, yeah, there’s reddits and tales on the internet about things that shouldn’t have been put up the bum.  Entertaining and full of ideas when baby carrots vanish up there!

Of course there is, internet gonna internet.