Snake_King's Story Discussion Thread

[Guest Guest, maybe writer]

Huh, lucky timing.

They would react normally. that’s why i said it has potential for a gradual hing or relationship experiment. genie just puts them in the same room and MAYBE nudges inclinations a bit. for JUST them.

One of the reasons for the teen titans thing was that as the man are a shapesifter and cyborg respectively, they have a reasonable way of change. same with digimon, they are actually data in the digital world, so threoretically could get infeected by virus.

 

any advice or things you would add? open to suggestions from anyone

 

I do prefer plot, ALWAYS prefer plot. it gets boring and wears thin otherwise.

 

i see what you mean about the scene, and that makes sense. thank you for listening.

[Snake_King]

1 hour ago, Guest Guest, maybe writer said:

They would react normally. that’s why I said it has the potential for a gradual thing or relationship experiment. genie just puts them in the same room and MAYBE nudges inclinations a bit. for JUST them.

One of the reasons for the teen titans thing was that as the men are a shapeshifter and cyborg respectively, they have a reasonable way of change. same with Digimon, they are actually data in the digital world, so theoretically could get infected by a virus.

any advice or things you would add? open to suggestions from anyone

I do prefer plot, ALWAYS prefer plot. it gets boring and wears thin otherwise.

I see what you mean about the scene, and that makes sense. thank you for listening.

 

I can see that with Aladdin, Jasmine, and Sadira, although there would be other things to consider, but what I'm thinking of would probably make it too real.

As for the Teen Titans, I see your point, and I can understand why you might have picked Robin as the only dude who STAYS as a dude.  After all, Dick Grayson is the biggest man-ho in the DC Universe.

As far as suggestions go, I’d like to ask first how Jaune’s bimbofication semblance works in the RWBY story.  Do they stay that way as long as they’re near him or is it a permanent transformation?  And are there any short-term and/or long-term consequences to this?

Yeah, plot always makes things more interesting.

You’re welcome.  If you have any more questions, thoughts or suggestions, feel free to tell me.

[Snake_King]

2 hours ago, Guest Guest, maybe writer said:

I do prefer plot, ALWAYS prefer plot. it gets boring and wears thin otherwise.

 

Also, as far as plot goes, one thing that’s always needed for that is a conflict of some kind.  The thing is, often in porn and/or smut, the only conflict is that the characters aren’t getting enough sex.  In this fic, however, the characters DO get plenty of sex, and there’s STILL a bigger conflict going on.

[Guest Guest, maybe writer]

The girl’s change works a bit like plauge rules, it’s infectious to other girls IF the original gives them a physical sign of affection, which the intensisty of the sign equaling infection speed. kissing is one of the fastest, for example.

HOWEVER, it only exists while jaune is exerting his semblence. he can forget to turn it off after he gets better, but he cannot hold it forever, and when he stops applying the stuff, they turn back. it takes a while for them to remember anything from that time, even if infected secondhand. they have knowingly to start agreeing to it first, basically have to be  girlfriend.

Part of this is the girls have crushes on jaune, but for the most part their small enough that they are originally focussed on other crushes, whiterose, bumblebee, you know. romantic comedy, but jaune keeps throwing a wrench in things, and winds up accidentally convincing them to go far all at once, including him. part of it is he can program scripts into them (again, not realising) mostly based on what would be a turn on, such as guiltly liking the idea of two girls or blake playing up her catness means they’re more likely to happen.

I might include penny, who ruby brings in asuming as a robot she’ll be immune to the virus, but she’s not

 

agreed about the intent thing, you have to keep the main character likable and IN character, so this has to be an accident. maybe it’s tied to his aura, so he keeps accidentally using it once he realises what it does. he’s shocked and tries to keep it from happening again of course, but things go wrong. even recruiting some of the girls to help, like ruby (have to emphasise they’re his friends, not just fodder). part of the irony is that in the romantic comedy side, june is trying to help them get the girl they want, his semblance just throws it all in a different direction. everyone’s happy with end result, it’s just not something they saw coming.

They’re not technically dumber or anything, just priority shifted with enhanced figures, and their combat abilities are just as good (or maybe better from the programming thing, jaune wants them alive and admires there strength so it could get exagerated. it’s a reasonable reason to HAVE that semblence)

i’m tossing up the idea for ren have always been a women, being based on mulan, but it seems unnessecary right now. it  just means nora probably won’t get infected

[Guest Guest, maybe writer]

remember, it’s not permanent in any sense; though yang might be annoyed about losing ‘amazon mode’, and the girls might privately and playfully gripe about losing their exaggerated -form other crush. but the ‘scripts’ and changed behaviours last only as long as the transformation and can be over-ruled once they get the self-awareness that comes from being a girlfriend.

Pyrrrha is first and foremost girlfriend by common consensus, and loving it. She’s anoyed at sharing her boyfriend at first, but loves him showing how much he loves her, and being surrounded by such warm, supporting friends/girlfriends. there’s a movement before it happens to help her get jaune’s attention that just  makes it all worse for a while, then better

[Guest Guest, maybe writer]

Ren will probably still be ren, He makes an excellent down-to earth guy, and i like his dynamic with most characters

[Snake_King]

On ‎5‎/‎14‎/‎2018 at 7:55 PM, Guest Guest, maybe writer said:

The girl’s change works a bit like plauge rules, it’s infectious to other girls IF the original gives them a physical sign of affection, which the intensisty of the sign equaling infection speed. kissing is one of the fastest, for example.

HOWEVER, it only exists while jaune is exerting his semblence. he can forget to turn it off after he gets better, but he cannot hold it forever, and when he stops applying the stuff, they turn back. it takes a while for them to remember anything from that time, even if infected secondhand. they have knowingly to start agreeing to it first, basically have to be  girlfriend.

Part of this is the girls have crushes on jaune, but for the most part their small enough that they are originally focussed on other crushes, whiterose, bumblebee, you know. romantic comedy, but jaune keeps throwing a wrench in things, and winds up accidentally convincing them to go far all at once, including him. part of it is he can program scripts into them (again, not realising) mostly based on what would be a turn on, such as guiltly liking the idea of two girls or blake playing up her catness means they’re more likely to happen.

I might include penny, who ruby brings in asuming as a robot she’ll be immune to the virus, but she’s not

 

agreed about the intent thing, you have to keep the main character likable and IN character, so this has to be an accident. maybe it’s tied to his aura, so he keeps accidentally using it once he realises what it does. he’s shocked and tries to keep it from happening again of course, but things go wrong. even recruiting some of the girls to help, like ruby (have to emphasise they’re his friends, not just fodder). part of the irony is that in the romantic comedy side, june is trying to help them get the girl they want, his semblance just throws it all in a different direction. everyone’s happy with end result, it’s just not something they saw coming.

They’re not technically dumber or anything, just priority shifted with enhanced figures, and their combat abilities are just as good (or maybe better from the programming thing, jaune wants them alive and admires there strength so it could get exagerated. it’s a reasonable reason to HAVE that semblence)

i’m tossing up the idea for ren have always been a women, being based on mulan, but it seems unnessecary right now. it  just means nora probably won’t get infected

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The idea that Jaune can turn it on and off whenever he wants is an interesting one, and I like the concept that he has to learn to control it.  More often than not in stories, a character gets a new ability and suddenly they use it like they’ve been doing so for years.  It’s kind of like this analogy I’ve heard, “If someone gives you a sword, does that automatically make you a master swordsman?”

One bit of drama that could arise is if one or more of the girls realize that Jaune’s doing this to them and think he’s doing it on purpose, and it takes a bit of convincing for her or them to come around and realize that he’s not.  While I’m not normally one for a drama based on misunderstandings, I do take into account for when they could potentially happen and try to have the characters work through it at a quick but believable pace.

On ‎5‎/‎14‎/‎2018 at 8:01 PM, Guest Guest, maybe writer said:

Pyrrrha is first and foremost girlfriend by common consensus, and loving it. She’s anoyed at sharing her boyfriend at first, but loves him showing how much he loves her, and being surrounded by such warm, supporting friends/girlfriends. there’s a movement before it happens to help her get jaune’s attention that just  makes it all worse for a while, then better

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Makes sense that Pyrrha would be the first, though I’m curious about how the first scene between them would go once Jaune’s semblance has been activated.

On ‎5‎/‎14‎/‎2018 at 9:10 PM, Guest Guest, maybe writer said:

Ren will probably still be ren, He makes an excellent down-to earth guy, and i like his dynamic with most characters

Yeah, I think it might work best if Nora and Ren were still their own couple.

Sorry for the late response, as I’ve been busy in the last couple days with work.

[Hide_My_Sins]

Maybe Jaune’s semblance only effects those that have romantic feelings for him. That way Nora is not effected.

Nora may like Jaune as a teammate and friend, but not as a lover.

[Snake_King]

4 hours ago, Hide_My_Sins said:

Maybe Jaune’s semblance only effects those that have romantic feelings for him. That way Nora is not effected.

Nora may like Jaune as a teammate and friend, but not as a lover.

Makes sense to me.

[Guest Guest, maybe writer]

That works, and makes some things easier. take a while for them to find out though because they’d all have to admit it, and thaat seems a bit out of character…. for most of them. not shame or anything, these are mostly just very private people. That does give me a chance to show of Yang’d nurturing and understanding side though.

 

I had one more idea i’d like to run by you guys. If any of you want to take a crack at these feel free by the way

[Guest Guest, maybe writer]

I’m going for less drama and more comedic tension, though i may through some drama in for genuine pathos. as i always say “it’s funny until it’s not” jokes are an excellent way to set up something meaningful or serious.

[Snake_King]

9 minutes ago, Guest Guest, maybe writer said:

That works, and makes some things easier. take a while for them to find out though because they’d all have to admit it, and thaat seems a bit out of character…. for most of them. not shame or anything, these are mostly just very private people. That does give me a chance to show of Yang’d nurturing and understanding side though.

 

I had one more idea i’d like to run by you guys. If any of you want to take a crack at these feel free by the way

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That it would, and yes, we’d like to hear it.

7 minutes ago, Guest Guest, maybe writer said:

I’m going for less drama and more comedic tension, though i may through some drama in for genuine pathos. as i always say “it’s funny until it’s not” jokes are an excellent way to set up something meaningful or serious.

I understand, and I meant it only as a suggestion.  The idea occurred to me because of a Harry Potter fic I read a while back where a Genie granted Harry’s accidental wish of his life being “sexier” followed by a lot of the girls at Hogwarts having sex with him.  Hermione got in on it as well, but then found out about the wish and got mad because she thought that Harry was unintentionally controlling her before being informed that it only works if there were genuine affection and feelings beforehand.

[Guest Guest, maybe writer]

it’s fine. I appreciate the suggestion and it gives me some good ideas, I just don;t think I’ll be playing the miscommunication along too much.

 

okay, this may be part of a bigger story, i have an idea for a danny/sam/desiree i want to try and i’m not sure if it’ll be full harem or just them, might do two endings but it’s less an ‘adult fanfic and more just suggestive. I want it to be emotionally believable

 

There was one idea for it, however, that can be it;s own fanfic here, though I tweaked the characters to fit better. it’s a two-part;

 

in a world were Danny has yet to ask sam out (ironically being about to before this scheme gets in the way) Sam and Ember (who is canonically a big enough secret admirer to shave his logo into her head and make a guitar shaped like it based on the ‘10 years later’ design) both independently come to the conclusions that danny needs another human/ghost hybrid as both a partner and for a girlfriend (They both want to be both, but sam mostly wants to be there for him and take some weight off his shoulders, awkwardly sputtering over the girfriend implications and missing his interest in her, being ironically frustrated he hasn’t noticed her but having accepted it. Ember, however, tells herself she wants to seduce him and admits it would be fun to fight alongside him, but is covering more tender feelings of belonging and admiration). It's an idle fantasy, until they each happen to learn they other thinks so too, meet up and agree to team up and be that ghost girl. Sam is annoyed working with someone as unruly and self-confident as ember, and ember is annoyed at having to team up with her ‘main competion’, but they put things aside.

The plan is to half possess sam, giving her ghost powers and leaving her with free will, and letting ember live out her wild side while doing so. (insert montage of bonding over failed attempts here, or not, skipping to the end result) the process, however is a bit more... intimite then the exepected, due to both exerting their will to be solid. They also both feel a sensory overlap and, well, one thing leads to another. The new form isn't created until they both reach release (having both forgotten about it in the process) and collapse into each other, which they later realised worked because they both were blanked out and so relaxed and willing to accept each other. they then fly off to find danny.

part two has the new ghost-girl, essentially sam with ember-like characteristics such as fire hair in sam's style alternating between trying to aid and seducing danny. (possibly insert a montage of times she wunexpectedly shows up and danny’s changing reaction, also the girls discovering they can just fuse at will now without the ‘lead-up’ and are both privately disappointed). He resists first out of wariness then frustration, but eventually respects and trusts her enough to sit down with her and tell he he’s not interested, he’s got this friend he’s been trying to tell he loves her… Sam reveals it;s her and he FINALLY recognises her.

they confess, and begin kissing. (ember is heartbroken but asks sam to let her stick around for this one. sam agrees) After Danny lays with ghost-sam, she splits back into two and ember tries to leave, but sam insists she stays, and danny has no objections  or idea what’s happening (having gotten the girl of his dreams and even more). they then have a threesome

 

Alternatively, three sets of girls and ghost girls try this to get his attention. like i said, part of a bigger, less explicit story idea, two actually. 

 

You don;t see a lot of sam/ember/danny and the human/ghost thing gives good opportunities for it

like i said, if anyone wants a go at this feel free.

[Guest Guest, maybe writer]

I… don;t exactly trust my own ability.

 

speaking of which, i’m thinking of getting an account, are there any pitfalls i should worry about or advice you can give?

[Snake_King]

8 hours ago, Guest Guest, maybe writer said:

it’s fine. I appreciate the suggestion and it gives me some good ideas, I just don;t think I’ll be playing the miscommunication along too much.

 

okay, this may be part of a bigger story, i have an idea for a danny/sam/desiree i want to try and i’m not sure if it’ll be full harem or just them, might do two endings but it’s less an ‘adult fanfic and more just suggestive. I want it to be emotionally believable

 

There was one idea for it, however, that can be it;s own fanfic here, though I tweaked the characters to fit better. it’s a two-part;

 

in a world were Danny has yet to ask sam out (ironically being about to before this scheme gets in the way) Sam and Ember (who is canonically a big enough secret admirer to shave his logo into her head and make a guitar shaped like it based on the ‘10 years later’ design) both independently come to the conclusions that danny needs another human/ghost hybrid as both a partner and for a girlfriend (They both want to be both, but sam mostly wants to be there for him and take some weight off his shoulders, awkwardly sputtering over the girfriend implications and missing his interest in her, being ironically frustrated he hasn’t noticed her but having accepted it. Ember, however, tells herself she wants to seduce him and admits it would be fun to fight alongside him, but is covering more tender feelings of belonging and admiration). It's an idle fantasy, until they each happen to learn they other thinks so too, meet up and agree to team up and be that ghost girl. Sam is annoyed working with someone as unruly and self-confident as ember, and ember is annoyed at having to team up with her ‘main competion’, but they put things aside.

The plan is to half possess sam, giving her ghost powers and leaving her with free will, and letting ember live out her wild side while doing so. (insert montage of bonding over failed attempts here, or not, skipping to the end result) the process, however is a bit more... intimite then the exepected, due to both exerting their will to be solid. They also both feel a sensory overlap and, well, one thing leads to another. The new form isn't created until they both reach release (having both forgotten about it in the process) and collapse into each other, which they later realised worked because they both were blanked out and so relaxed and willing to accept each other. they then fly off to find danny.

part two has the new ghost-girl, essentially sam with ember-like characteristics such as fire hair in sam's style alternating between trying to aid and seducing danny. (possibly insert a montage of times she wunexpectedly shows up and danny’s changing reaction, also the girls discovering they can just fuse at will now without the ‘lead-up’ and are both privately disappointed). He resists first out of wariness then frustration, but eventually respects and trusts her enough to sit down with her and tell he he’s not interested, he’s got this friend he’s been trying to tell he loves her… Sam reveals it;s her and he FINALLY recognises her.

they confess, and begin kissing. (ember is heartbroken but asks sam to let her stick around for this one. sam agrees) After Danny lays with ghost-sam, she splits back into two and ember tries to leave, but sam insists she stays, and danny has no objections  or idea what’s happening (having gotten the girl of his dreams and even more). they then have a threesome

 

Alternatively, three sets of girls and ghost girls try this to get his attention. like i said, part of a bigger, less explicit story idea, two actually. 

 

You don;t see a lot of sam/ember/danny and the human/ghost thing gives good opportunities for it

like i said, if anyone wants a go at this feel free.

 

An interesting idea to say the least.  I can imagine some conflict brewing because of the merging of minds and personalities, which admittedly is nothing new, but can still be good if done right.

[Guest Guest, maybe writer]

If I go the many girls route yes. If I go the singular route, it would be more a resoultion of pre-existing conflict to reach that point.

Im not sure which to go with. The sam/ember/danny would be relatively  shorter but still satisfying, but i can get more complex chacter interaction and conflict out of the longer, more character one. And if that if it should be intergrated into one of the larger stories i mentioned.

I might have to re-arrange the girls though. The girls are sam, valerie, paulina and the ghosts arw ember, desiree, dorothea. Valerie wants to undersyand danny better and hunt down ghosts, paulina wants to be with the town celebrity and be the centre of atrention, dorothea wants to stand on her own and never be weak again and to pay back her friend sam (and also, maybe to secure a husband as supportive as the one she keeps hearing about). Desiree, well thats one of the reasons i might intergrate it, I'd hava a better motivation and interactions for her, but shorthand is she wants to tie herself to a singular master that wont overwork her or go crazy and misses the warm comforting surroundings of her old harem.

Each ghost can work with sam (she has personal experiemce and chemistry with each one), and she's really the only one i I can trust with desiree (valeries to extreme anti ghost and paulinas a selffish airhead).

For the others though, I'm not sure whether to put valerie with dorothea to have her learn there are good ghosts and turn her into a ghost- hunter dragon knight or if I should go with an uneasy alliance betwen her and ember, turning her into a flirty thrill seeker. (Neither of them is doing that, their bith just borderline flirting with him anyway and running an adreniline high which adda up) Desiree is just a disater waiting to happen and i dont see much chemistry there.

As for Paulina, her and ember makes sense since she already thrives on attention and sees herself as a celeberity, but dorothea could be good for character growth. Shes also probably going to abuse desirees power and they wouldn't be good peraonalities for each other, but i can get some griwth out if everything she conjures backfiring on herself monkey paw style.

What are your thoughta, and would you recommend anythibg different, e.g different ghosts or girls. Or should i just go with three people.

[Guest Guest, maybe writer]

The fusion would probably be less steven universe a new personality and mor two people in the head talking with one int ht pilot seat and one running the powers, a bit like red vs blue. Or would you advose otherwise. Again, not sure which direction to take it.

[Guest guest, maybe writer]

hiccup, while all this is happening, is utterly perplexed and assumes it’s due to his new media reputation as the local super bachelor and playboy. he’s frustrated and a little depressed that th real him isn’t getting such luck, particularly with his crush on honey lemon, and is asking people for advice. He gets an inkling that they want the real him during abigail’s date due to talking with her about each other, and is surprised by karmi showing an interest in the real him, but it;s not until it all comes together that he realises that yes, these girls like him for him. It doens;t help that the enhancements are playing havoc with his hormones, but he can keep it from going to far in most cases, except when they don;t let him or are someone he likes enough to really want to do this

this take on it is as an erotic comedy/romance, with a little more emphasis on character over sex, hence why some of the sex scenes are just heavy makeouts or stop before they can start (not all though). it keep the actual encounters meaningful(well, most of them and tensions high, prevents him dying of dehydration, and allows the girls to believably if comedically come up with this plan. Which makes Hiro look better too.

 

[Guest guest, maybe writer]

sorry, wrong thread

[Guest guest, maybe writer]

I do want your opinion, which girls and ghosts should i pair?

 

also i have an account now, and will be posting from that:

 

http://members.adult-fanfiction.org/profile.php?no=1296990000

[Snake_King]

On ‎5‎/‎19‎/‎2018 at 7:36 PM, Guest Guest, maybe writer said:

If I go the many girls route yes. If I go the singular route, it would be more a resoultion of pre-existing conflict to reach that point.

Im not sure which to go with. The sam/ember/danny would be relatively  shorter but still satisfying, but i can get more complex chacter interaction and conflict out of the longer, more character one. And if that if it should be intergrated into one of the larger stories i mentioned.

I might have to re-arrange the girls though. The girls are sam, valerie, paulina and the ghosts arw ember, desiree, dorothea. Valerie wants to undersyand danny better and hunt down ghosts, paulina wants to be with the town celebrity and be the centre of atrention, dorothea wants to stand on her own and never be weak again and to pay back her friend sam (and also, maybe to secure a husband as supportive as the one she keeps hearing about). Desiree, well thats one of the reasons i might intergrate it, I'd hava a better motivation and interactions for her, but shorthand is she wants to tie herself to a singular master that wont overwork her or go crazy and misses the warm comforting surroundings of her old harem.

Each ghost can work with sam (she has personal experiemce and chemistry with each one), and she's really the only one i I can trust with desiree (valeries to extreme anti ghost and paulinas a selffish airhead).

For the others though, I'm not sure whether to put valerie with dorothea to have her learn there are good ghosts and turn her into a ghost- hunter dragon knight or if I should go with an uneasy alliance betwen her and ember, turning her into a flirty thrill seeker. (Neither of them is doing that, their bith just borderline flirting with him anyway and running an adreniline high which adda up) Desiree is just a disater waiting to happen and i dont see much chemistry there.

As for Paulina, her and ember makes sense since she already thrives on attention and sees herself as a celeberity, but dorothea could be good for character growth. Shes also probably going to abuse desirees power and they wouldn't be good peraonalities for each other, but i can get some griwth out if everything she conjures backfiring on herself monkey paw style.

What are your thoughta, and would you recommend anythibg different, e.g different ghosts or girls. Or should i just go with three people.

Well, it’s ultimately your story, so in the end, only you can decide which route you take.  You’re perfectly capable of either.

That being said, with the shorter route, you would have a better chance at more layered and focused writing and character development, since the focus is only three characters, right?

With the longer route of having all of those characters, it might be more difficult to give each their day in court, so to speak.  As one guy said about the “It” movie from last year “There are so many characters in this movie, someone was bound to get less screen time.”  Just saying.

On ‎5‎/‎19‎/‎2018 at 7:44 PM, Guest Guest, maybe writer said:

The fusion would probably be less steven universe a new personality and more two people in the head talking with one int ht pilot seat and one running the powers, a bit like red vs blue. Or would you advise otherwise? Again, not sure which direction to take it.

 

The “two minds in one body” route would probably be easier to do with the Danny/Sam/Ember story, but less so with the additions of Paulina, Valerie, Desiree, and Dorothea.  For that, I might advise going with the “merged minds create a new personality” route, since it makes it a bit easier to focus on the characters.

As for the girl/ghost pairings, this would be my suggestion:

1. Sam/Ember
2. Valerie/Dorothea
3. Paulina/Desiree

But again, this is your story, so do what you will with it.

15 minutes ago, Guest guest, maybe writer said:

also, I have an account now, and will be posting from that:

http://members.adult-fanfiction.org/profile.php?no=1296990000

 

Nice.  “Strange_Idea”, huh?

[Guest Guest, maybe writer]

having trouble signing in… but once i do i look forward to more chats

[Snake_King]

You may need to sign up for the forum website as well.

[Guest guest, maybe writer]

just did, waiting for confirmation

 

hmmm.. why do you go with those pairings? what interactions do you see happening?

[Snake_King]

2 minutes ago, Guest guest, maybe writer said:

hmmm.. why do you go with those pairings? what interactions do you see happening?

 

Well, I could see some similarities and contrasts between them.  Desiree is about granting wishes whereas Paulina is about getting her own wishes.  Valerie is stubborn and wanting strength whereas Dorothea is meek and has strength with her dragon form.  You’ve already explained things with the Sam/Ember pairing.