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Fistbump 2 review again on the archive:

Fairy-Slayer 2015-06-10 id # 3000070617 You claim it's very angsty but I find it well balanced, with some great character growth and development, really good situations and dialogue (including the internal dialogue), plus some really good hot sex scenes. Sure, the bumps are a bit painful, but they do make for a better story. I have to feel bad for Dipper though because he seems to take the brunt of things a bit more. (Less than average penis, premature ejaculation, almost bipolar impulsive/frozen behavior...)

Anyway, it's a captivating story, very interesting and even fun as the twins go up and down the very dangerous rollercoaster that is their romantic love. Then there's the real fun, like the end of chapter 5 and the nice wind-up for Dipper's plan in six. Keep up the great work.

As I've said before, the angst is really getting going to be ratcheted up in Chapters 7 and 8, which I've not yet published because, well, it's really, really angsty! I'm still working on making it bearable, but rest assured it won't be pretty for a couple of chapters.

And at the risk of succumbing to "too much information" syndrome, let's just say that I've seen a lot of similarities to myself at a young age when I've looked at Dipper. His physical and/or behavioral failings are very much realistic for a late-blooming, introverted, neurotic young teenager. Maybe that doesn't make for the best porn story, but it is what it is as far as what I see happening to these characters, in this universe.

Edward_or_Ford

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Jest powód, dla subtelnej kontekście religijnym. I to nie tylko oczywiste (fakt, że rodzice są pobożni chrześcijanie i dlatego bardzo przeciwieństwie do natury ich relacji).

Well, you know ... I am a Christian.
And somehow, I have nothing against gays and LGBT. Everyone has the right to equal love. Of course, with respect for the other side. Is that weird?
And please, do a happy ending. :3
I look forward to new chapters, and perhaps, new stories. You have a talent for it, it's really nice to read. ;)
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Well, you know ... I am a Christian.

And somehow, I have nothing against gays and LGBT. Everyone has the right to equal love. Of course, with respect for the other side. Is that weird?

Well then, I can tell you from someone who has been trying, but in a couple of (somewhat obvious) ways failing, to be a decent Christian, I agree with your sentiment. And no, I do not find you weird.

Don't misunderstand me: I would never wish a pair of actual real-life siblings to really have to deal with handling an incestuous relationship. It's bad enough that I privately find such a fictional relationship to be arousing, but holy crap would it ever suck if I was actually faced with having such feelings for my sister. The LGBT crowd's "right to love" is easy to claim by comparison.

And please, do a happy ending. :3
I look forward to new chapters, and perhaps, new stories. You have a talent for it, it's really nice to read. ;)

(trying desperately to not say anything ..... )

If you're trying to influence me on how the story ends, you're too late: I already have the story's plot fully laid out. I just have to type it out in a way that doesn't suck. :-) Still, your flattery is appreciated! Thank you, and please keep checking back, I'll get the next couple of chapters posted relatively soon, I hope.

Edward_or_Ford

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Well, you know ... I am a Christian.
And somehow, I have nothing against gays and LGBT. Everyone has the right to equal love. Of course, with respect for the other side. Is that weird?
And please, do a happy ending. :3
I look forward to new chapters, and perhaps, new stories. You have a talent for it, it's really nice to read. ;)

I agree. LGBT's have a right to marry as much as any other couple. And become just as miserable.

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I agree. LGBT's have a right to marry as much as any other couple.

Alright. But bringing this back to the particular subject matter of my story, does this right to marry extend to a brother and sister?

Ughh, I don't know! Personally, I don't think *I'd* be in favor of it (which shows how much of a hypocrite I am, that I find incest to be both attractive and immoral at the same time).

Weren't we all discussing smutty fan fiction?

:-)

Edward_or_Ford

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Yes we were.

What makes an AFF great, in my opinion, is not just the porn. Making love to the one you love is not porn. Sex is porn.

As you read what a character is feeling, their emotions, fears, anxieties, happiness and love, you feel the way they feel, remembering your memories of love long lost...the happiest times of your life.

A gifted author can evoke those memories and feelings. You are doing so fine a job, that everyone is patiently awaiting the next chapter, I would rather wait for a great chapter than quick, crappy ones.

Well done, Edward_or_Ford. Well done.

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What makes an AFF great, in my opinion, is not just the porn. Making love to the one you love is not porn. Sex is porn.

As you read what a character is feeling, their emotions, fears, anxieties, happiness and love, you feel the way they feel, remembering your memories of love long lost...the happiest times of your life.

A gifted author can evoke those memories and feelings. You are doing so fine a job, that everyone is patiently awaiting the next chapter, I would rather wait for a great chapter than quick, crappy ones.

Well done, Edward_or_Ford. Well done.

Aw, shucks! :blush: Now you're making me feel all bad about my current slump. I was considering just putting up Chapter 7 as is, even though I really don't like it. Now I've gotta buckle down and see if I can properly conquer this beast named "angst". (Seriously, I'm a dude in my 40's! Writing about the misery of fictional teenage twins in love should not give me the "feels" as much as it is. Someone help me! :cry: )

But truthfully, thank you very, very much for the compliment. Just ... wow!

Edward_or_Ford

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Aw, shucks! :blush: Now you're making me feel all bad about my current slump. I was considering just putting up Chapter 7 as is, even though I really don't like it. Now I've gotta buckle down and see if I can properly conquer this beast named "angst". (Seriously, I'm a dude in my 40's! Writing about the misery of fictional teenage twins in love should not give me the "feels" as much as it is. Someone help me! :cry: )

But truthfully, thank you very, very much for the compliment. Just ... wow!

Edward_or_Ford

Don't worry, you're right not to push it. If you don't feel your chapter, it'll haunt you. Lord will it haunt you...

Look at your support tree. I'm a tad jealous, I have to admit, Mr. Lightning-in-a-Bottle.

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Look at your support tree.

Glancing back at this thread, it's great to see the dialogue pick up. At first, it was just me yelling back responses to reviews with no interaction. (I wish AFF were able to integrate the forums more seamlessly into the archives, it would make discussion easier with people.)

Speaking of dialogue, I see that I completely forgot to post a link to my "xXDasXGoochXx" interview! Want to hear an amateur hack talk about writing his first fanfic? This is the place!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlKL1W6_afo

I'm a tad jealous, I have to admit, Mr. Lightning-in-a-Bottle.

Thanks, friend. I'm more jealous of your writing skills, though. Still eagerly looking forward to your next installment.

Edward_or_Ford

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Glancing back at this thread, it's great to see the dialogue pick up. At first, it was just me yelling back responses to reviews with no interaction. (I wish AFF were able to integrate the forums more seamlessly into the archives, it would make discussion easier with people.)

Speaking of dialogue, I see that I completely forgot to post a link to my "xXDasXGoochXx" interview! Want to hear an amateur hack talk about writing his first fanfic? This is the place!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlKL1W6_afo

Thanks, friend. I'm more jealous of your writing skills, though. Still eagerly looking forward to your next installment.

Edward_or_Ford

You got an interview? The closest thing I got to outside-the-writing interaction was an invitation to do the grunt work on some schmuck's fan made cartoon project. Yeah, okay, I put all my effort into writing, so I definitely want to do the coloring on your POS.

That interview was good stuff. High five, buddy.

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That interview was good stuff. High five, buddy.

Yeah, it was flattering, and fun. A lot of the best conversation happened after he stopped recording, though. We talked for over an hour.

Crossing fingers that no one I actually know in meatspace chances to hear it, though, and recognizes my voice. (Should I have used a voice scrambler? :P )

E_o_F

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I have a country voice (I'm from Kentucky), and a face for radio. Seriously. In 1976, I worked a week as a late shift DJ using my FM voice. While I did have female 'guests', I made more as a janitor in a hospital or as a teacher.

While I would love to see my AFF as a comic, I'm afraid the comic would end up drawn for the sex instead of the story.

I have listened to your podcast, and all the other I have been invited to. You handled it well.

BTW, I did get an invitation for interview to podcast from xXDasXGoochXx, and I replied yes, I would love to do it, but he must be very busy. I have not heard from him since. Because of my amputation, my time/money balance is heavy on time.

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Yeah, it was flattering, and fun. A lot of the best conversation happened after he stopped recording, though. We talked for over an hour.

Crossing fingers that no one I actually know in meatspace chances to hear it, though, and recognizes my voice. (Should I have used a voice scrambler? :P )

E_o_F

I wouldn't worry about it, man. They'd have to traffic in the same stuff as you, and while there isn't necessarily honor among thieves, the AFF-style communities are usually pretty tight-nit. The rest of the world may literally not understand our lemon styles, and knowing that generally creates insulation.

I have a country voice (I'm from Kentucky), and a face for radio. Seriously. In 1976, I worked a week as a late shift DJ using my FM voice. While I did have female 'guests', I made more as a janitor in a hospital or as a teacher.

While I would love to see my AFF as a comic, I'm afraid the comic would end up drawn for the sex instead of the story.

I have listened to your podcast, and all the other I have been invited to. You handled it well.

BTW, I did get an invitation for interview to podcast from xXDasXGoochXx, and I replied yes, I would love to do it, but he must be very busy. I have not heard from him since. Because of my amputation, my time/money balance is heavy on time.

As I understand it, DG juggles school and such. I could be mistaken.

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OK, so yesterday my wife found the Tumblr app on my phone, and kind of freaked at the stuff I was following. Oops.

So far, she doesn't know that I was posting anything there (the same two "Fistbump" stories as here), but she saw my user name and may figure it out. And since my AFF user name is almost identical (and the story is very searchable on Google), the jig may be up for me here, too.

So for now, I'm laying low. If I come back, it's either really good news (she doesn't find out), or really bad news (she leaves me). We'll see. Wish me luck, folks.

Edward_or_Ford

  • 2 weeks later...
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Damn ... sorry to hear that. I hope everything will be alright. Writing is one thing, but marriage is something .. more important. Good luck.

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An update for you all....

My wife believes me to be a "sick fuck" for what I was reading on Tumblr, but did not discover my writing career. Thank the deity she's technically inept. Whatever trouble I'm in with her now, I know it'd be far worse if she found the rest. I'm pretty confident she won't find it on her own, or I'd have deleted my profile here already. I just can't fuck up again, so farewell smartphone apps. She's suspicious of my computer time now, but she'll have to get over it since doing systems admin is kind of what I do for a living.

I'm going to continue to put myself on hiatus until this blows over a bit more. However, if the worst case scenario happens (I have to give this up in order to preserve my marriage), I've already been messaging with ForgetMeNaught: he's offered to take my plot outline and finish "Fistbump 2" on my behalf if it comes to that.

I'm really hoping it doesn't come to that :-(

Meanwhile, as the British say, "Keep calm, and ship Pinecest."

Edward_or_Ford

  • 1 month later...
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Glad to see you back!

Loved the newest chapter. Well written. Beautiful example of what starts as a mistake can be misunderstood and, through hurt, anger and resentment, lead to a hatred that can turn a very loving relationship into something very painful and horrible. I feel sorry for Dipper and Mable, the pressures and fears of keeping their love hidden can make one unknowingly overreact and make things worse. One must hope they realize how much they love each other and get back together.

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Glad to see you back!

Loved the newest chapter. Well written. Beautiful example of what starts as a mistake can be misunderstood and, through hurt, anger and resentment, lead to a hatred that can turn a very loving relationship into something very painful and horrible. I feel sorry for Dipper and Mable, the pressures and fears of keeping their love hidden can make one unknowingly overreact and make things worse. One must hope they realize how much they love each other and get back together.

Thanks Belfry. That's the kind of feelings I was going for.

And now, a couple of reviews from the archive page for Chapter 7....

ForgetMeNaught 2015-08-07 id # 3000070758

Good to see chapter 7 at long last. Welcome back.

I love the formatting choices you made; good way to sprinkle in extra background without needing to add more day to day interaction. It was telling, though, how rushed this chapter was, and in the end it didn't really feel like we went anywhere compared to chapter 6, if I may say. It seemed as if you couldn't wait to get the chapter out of the way as opposed to not being able to wait to show it off.

As for that tension, I dig where it's going. Bottle that stuff and use it full force.

Yeah, the formatting choice was one that came out of my dislike for the way the story was coming out. This chapter took over 3 *months* to write. I think I threw everything out twice.

Interspersing the daily flashbacks into the final climatic scene worked as a way to break up the horrific final day of the narrative. Telling the story chronologically was just too heavy and depressing taken all at once.

And although it seemed like there was no advancement, despite days of events, most of the content in this chapter does serve advancement of plot that will be addressed later. And I wanted to portray Mabel's transition (from silent treatment to outburst) to feel justified after days of bottling up her anger.

The tension ain't going away: my next chapter's almost complete, and ugliness abounds.

Still, glad you're liking where it's going. Thanks!

xXDasXGoochXx 2015-08-09 id # 3000070762

Christ bro. you make a man not want incest. lol

Heh. Sometimes fucking your sister just isn't worth the pain! Other times, though, it is! Which way does it go here?

See you in a couple of days with a new chapter, I hope.

Edward_or_Ford

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Lovers come and go. You can get a divorce from your wife. You can't 'divorce' your sister.

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Lovers come and go. You can get a divorce from your wife. You can't 'divorce' your sister.

Maybe a touchy way to describe that at this juncture...

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ForgetMeNaught

Posted Yesterday, 08:25 PM

Belfry, on 10 Aug 2015 - 11:17 PM, said:snapback.png

Lovers come and go. You can get a divorce from your wife. You can't 'divorce' your sister.

Maybe a touchy way to describe that at this juncture...

LOL! Yeah, maybe a bit of an unfortunate metaphor to make there, Belfry, considering my current situation! :-)

Oh, and by the way... Chapter 8 is up!

Edward_or_Ford

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Such a swift turn around. Found yourself an island of time for some crack writing did you?

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