Cookie reset, slight url change

[AlfonsoLing]

@AlfonsoLing - Have you attempted to use Google in order to search the stories you have here? I admit, they haven't updated to the new URL yet, but that does show you just how long it's been available via Google:

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Thanks for checking Rogue. What is your search string? Although none of the results link back to the story, I've never even been able to get that far.

[DemonGoddess]

The change of address was submitted via Webmaster Tools 8-30. I have to renew it every 180 days. It can take the index up to six weeks to renew itself.

Bing and Yahoo, however are already pointing to the new domain with the old links.

[AlfonsoLing]

A: As to the overblown comparison you make to an adult magazine at a liquor store, instant gratification is very dull compared to taking the steps to get real gratification you have earned with effort. Also, the exaggeration factor in your comparison is absurd. People who really want to read smut will always make the effort to get what they wish. If you are upset because you are not getting your way and instant gratification, you have the freedom of will to make a decision befitting your personality and agenda. However, I feel compelled to ask as a fellow author, and reader: AlfonsoLing, if you cannot endure the minute and a half it takes to fill in the blanks to set the cookie setter, why did you even join this site?

Your reasoning is flawed, dear Kurahleiritr. Because I wish to see some small aspect of this site improved, it does not then follow that I should chuck the whole thing if I don't get my way. I'm merely making a suggestion and offering support for why its implementation would be beneficial. I'm not a baby. I think this site is great! But I can see where you'd get the opposite impression.

And yeah, the comparison to the liquor store is absurd in a way. But it's a funny way to make a point. Some readers of the comparison might even chuckle when they plop their next six pack down on the counter and see those magazines. And seriously, do you really believe AFF readers find reading the stories here so much more gratifying because of the hoops they have to jump through to get to those stories? You're as bad as me!

[pittwitch]

What you are asking for is not an improvement. Period.

[BronxWench]

Not to mention that the age verification page only comes up when the cookie has not been set, or the cookies have been cleared from the browser. Having to set a cookie once is not onerous, nor is it requiring our readers to jump through hoops.

This is making a mountain out of the proverbial molehill, frankly.

[AlfonsoLing]

A: I joined the AFF community to escape the infantile, obnoxious, and foolish members of other sites. I want the blue page because it is a deterrent. The blue page allows me to sleep better at night knowing that 10 year olds are having to do actual work to access my dark themed tales. Whether it stops them outright, I cannot say with perfect accuracy, but I am relieved to have some modicum of assurance about having done my best to to follow the law personally. Short attention spans are most often an issue seen in underage, and spoiled children. I for one would not desire readers who are so flaky and self absorbed they cannot appreciate my stories. Minors are too young, and immature, to recognize the values of rules and regulations.

Sorry, K. I missed this reply since it was embedded in a quote. Like some of my forum postes, my tales tend to be humorous and often silly - but I still wouldn't want a 10 year old reading them. I just don't see the blue page as any sort of deterrent, even for kids with a short attention span.

There seems to be a trade-off. I can remember back in the old days of the Net when all these sites had this "Adult Check" system. As I remember, although it cost pennies to get past it, you still had to sign up with a credit card. And although I'm sure it was a very effective way of screening out underaged viewers, it also presented too great of a barrier to those of age. My guess is that's part of the reason it got phased out. Plus, of course, everyone values their anonymity.

So it comes down to a matter of degree. And you know what, I'm starting to see your point. I could see where a fan fiction site like this could draw in a larger percentage of underage viewers than your average porn site. You know what? I just changed my mind. Let's keep the stupid PITA blue screen page! I'm totally serious. You've convinced me, K. I rescind my previous complaints and objections.

[Kurahieiritr]

Your reasoning is flawed, dear Kurahleiritr. Because I wish to see some small aspect of this site improved, it does not then follow that I should chuck the whole thing if I don't get my way. I'm merely making a suggestion and offering support for why its implementation would be beneficial. I'm not a baby. I think this site is great! But I can see where you'd get the opposite impression.

And yeah, the comparison to the liquor store is absurd in a way. But it's a funny way to make a point. Some readers of the comparison might even chuckle when they plop their next six pack down on the counter and see those magazines. And seriously, do you really believe AFF readers find reading the stories here so much more gratifying because of the hoops they have to jump through to get to those stories? You're as bad as me!

A; Alfonse, my reasoning is based upon a number of factors and researched topics. Perhaps I am as bad in my own way, yet I am thinking of preventing possible problems in the long term when I make any comments. DG, and other admins have left multiple posts about the incomplete code rewrite which has to be installed in waves to keep this archive working smoothly. They have stated the existence of laws they must adhere to to keep this site operational. What is more important, our momentary convenience, or having a place to share our writing and enjoyment of off color tales for many years to come? With this in mind, I made my case for protecting this site in whatever way is deemed necessary. I will always side with accepting a few extra minutes of reading, and typing so I can always post or read something that takes my fancy. The other option is I get my fast fix today, while the administration for AFF gets into trouble, possibly leading to the end of this archive as new laws get written and start getting enforced by the countries determined to control Internet access and uses.

Times are changing where Internet is concerned. Several countries are hell bent and pushing to universalize laws that would place AFF administrators, and us mature theme writers at risk of being charged as sex offenders in their countries. Such laws are under debate, or getting voted upon as package deals that contain multiple Internet controls because that is the nature of Governments overall. A number of nations are determined to control Internet content, and make extra revenues off of it. Many Governments are seeking to implement Internet control laws that benefit them, not the people who enjoy freedom of expression. Governments do not care about individuals, or their rights nine times out of ten. It is the nature of the beast called Government. Our admins are great individuals and deserve our wholehearted respect for all the titanic amounts of work they have already done.

Our Admins are putting out so much effort to improve this site, and get it cleaned up for everyone who visits now, and in the future. The idea that any of them might get into legal trouble due to maintaining this site for all our benefit is unacceptable to me as a member. Our Admins are doing the best they can, as quickly as they can, to get things cleaned up after a several year screw up by a previous admin group. I want AFF admins, who are doing their best to insure we have a place to read whatever we desire, to have iron clad protection. I want that safety net for all of us because I understand every person who posts here is a real, living, breathing, flesh and blood human being with a real life outside of the internet, the same as myself. We all have families and friends. If the Admins safety means I must be inconvenienced so that they can continue to provide me with a place to hang out and talk to like minded individuals for several years, I will gladly be inconvenienced for a couple extra minutes when I visit or post. My only thought is that it is worthwhile to expend effort so that I might do my part to insure the long term survival of this site.

[Kurahieiritr]

Sorry, K. I missed this reply since it was embedded in a quote. Like some of my forum postes, my tales tend to be humorous and often silly - but I still wouldn't want a 10 year old reading them. I just don't see the blue page as any sort of deterrent, even for kids with a short attention span.

There seems to be a trade-off. I can remember back in the old days of the Net when all these sites had this "Adult Check" system. As I remember, although it cost pennies to get past it, you still had to sign up with a credit card. And although I'm sure it was a very effective way of screening out underaged viewers, it also presented too great of a barrier to those of age. My guess is that's part of the reason it got phased out. Plus, of course, everyone values their anonymity.

So it comes down to a matter of degree. And you know what, I'm starting to see your point. I could see where a fan fiction site like this could draw in a larger percentage of underage viewers than your average porn site. You know what? I just changed my mind. Let's keep the stupid PITA blue screen page! I'm totally serious. You've convinced me, K. I rescind my previous complaints and objections.

A: Chuckles. And here I spent a full half an hour trying to find the perfect way to phrase my argument to why we should all wish to preserve our lovely admins and this site for many years to come. Sorry that I suck at the quotes button feature.

Edited September 8, 2013 by Kurahieiritr

[AlfonsoLing]

A: Chuckles. And here I spent a full half an hour trying to find the perfect way to phrase my argument to why we should all wish to preserve our lovely admins and this site for many years to come. Sorry that I suck at the quotes button feature.

Your half hour was not wasted. You made a lot of valid points. It's better to err on the side of caution.

[RogueMudblood]

Thanks for checking Rogue. What is your search string? Although none of the results link back to the story, I've never even been able to get that far.

The title.

And I noted the issue with the URL when I made my post.

[Kurahieiritr]

Your half hour was not wasted. You made a lot of valid points. It's better to err on the side of caution.

A: Thanks. I suppose this means I have finally learned the refined art of having caution down pat since I was one unbelievably wild hellion when I was a youngster. Ha ha.

[Melrick]

And this is for site announcements, any further 'discussion's can be conducted elsewhere. If people have problems, we have forums here where you can post them. Unless people just want to argue, in which case they can fuck off instead.

[ShadowRaider]

seeing some broken images on the forums.

[BronxWench]

We're aware, and as we get the new place all settled in, most of those will be fixed. Some avatars are beyond our control, however, and the source image as supplied by the member may have been moved or deleted.

[Guest Welchlexy]

Very good forum post.Really thank you! Fantastic.