Mobster M/M

[RogueMudblood]

Juicy Fruit by Blue_GhostGhost is also here on AFF

[willows_rain]

I agree with the recommendations of The Mafia Runner and Juicy Fruit. Both of those are really good stoires. I haven't read the other recommended story, therefore I have no opinion on that one. I would also recommend:

Love Ain't Blind by sauropod

and the in-progress sequel You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet.

The sequel hasn't been updated in a few months, but it is really good so far and I have hope it will be continued as the author is still actively updating another, non-mafia, story on AFF.

[Guest Guest]

...So no one know where JennMarie's stories are? I'll never find out what happened in "SNGC"! *bangs head on desk*

What is happening to AFF,net?

Fan favorite,dextrousleftie, has left and ALL my other favorite authors have not updated in Months!! *sigh*

[DemonGoddess]

As stated many, many times before JennMarie was deleted for being underage at time of sign up. Not once, but multiple times. She was well aware of the requirement for being 18 or older to join and use the archive. This is NOT a new policy, the age requirement. It's been in place since the site started in 2002. That she consistently flouted that rule is, quite frankly, her issue. That I deleted her content and profile is not an issue, but simply something that HAS to be done with underage users as they're found. Perhaps you've not read the prior posts, but you know, these children who do this don't give a rat's ass about the consequences that their presence can have on the real people behind the site. Which is EXACTLY why we're so aggressive about finding and deleting them and their content. To PROTECT the real people behind the site.

As to dextrousleftie, read this topic. As Apollo pointed out in her answer, there was a valid reason behind the deletion.

We don't play favorites, as I'm sure you can see. There is a Terms of Service in place for a reason. Users who sign up agree to ABIDE by the ToS and Content Guidelines. If someone has continuing difficulties with following that, then yes, eventually they can and will be removed. It is patently unfair to the bulk of the users who do their damnedest to follow and do what they agreed to at sign up, for us to not deal with those who choose not to, repeatedly.

[Guest dazedandconfused]

Hi, I don't mean to be a pain in the royal butt but was wondering why you don't remove this author from the site for plagarism; boricualuvever. I think you removed her stories but not her account and I know for a fact you have banned LakotaGirl for this. I am sorry if this is in wrong section but you removed DL for TOS violations so why not this boricualuvever?

[RogueMudblood]

She was added to the Hall of Shame. She's been banned.

[Guest Guest]

Actually, the email that we provided is valid as that is the email address from which we received her rather whiney email about being disciplined for violating our ToS, so if you aren't getting a response then she is probably off sulking. If you are getting a error, then she must have deleted it and we have no further contact information for her.

As the owner, I can emphatically state that while I understand that many users would like her to return, we will not be contacting her to ask, even on behalf of users, to return. She violated our ToS with complete disregard for the possible legal consequences I could face by being on the site underage - While it may seem prideful, I refuse to send that type of email to someone who apparently couldn't care less if I paid huge legal fees, ended up with a criminal record, or even in jail.

I get that you guys have to protect the site but you are being extremely rude by calling authors whiny and "probably off skulking". Way to be professional (there's sarcasm in there). If you understand anything about writing and losing your stories, jennmarie was probably distressed and heartbroken at the thought of losing all her work if the only copies were posted on aff.net and her computer had crashed. if anything, that she ONLY posted her stories on aff.net and no where else tells me how loyal she was to this site and how much she liked it, as opposed to posting her story elsewhere on the internet where it could've gotten more attention.

I'm actually glad that aff.net staff's hostile behavior has been driving good authors away because you guys have been really childish this past year with your attitude towards authors you've banned. Yes, you have to do it by law. But it doesn't mean you have to be rude, abrasive, and deragatory towards those people in the process. That this site has a "hall of shame" really speaks volumes for how childish you guys are.

I hope another person out there in the world creates some competition for you guys for online literary porn because your attitudes are really disgusting to me.

/rant

And no, I am not jennmarie or any other author you have banned in the past. I've never ever posted a story to aff.net but I have been a long time lurker and reviewer since the birth of this site. Even I can tell you guys are giving authors a hard time, more than what is necessary.

[WillowDarkling]

Guest... Although I highly doubt you'll read this, but I do hope that you will.

I've stayed out of this discussion, because I don't know anything about JennMarie, and I am not a staff member, so I have nothing to do with the deletion or removal of authors and their content. But your unbelievably childish post is just too much to ignore.

First of all, 99% of the people on this site are writers, so they understand very well about writing and losing stories. And yes, by the people here, I do mean the staff members, and the bosses that are responsible for the site.

As for JennMarie being Loyal and Liking this site... Please! Don't make me laugh. If she'd had an ounce of any kind of loyalty, she would have fucking sat on her little hands and waited until she was 18 before posting her stories.

But she didn't. She thought she was special and would therefore get away with posting her stories before her 18th birthday. And she did not do this once, or twice... she did it six fucking times!

It is a legal matter if a minor is on this site, and therefore the staff members are legally obliged to delete them. It is done not only to protect the site, but also the living, breathing people who own and run this site, free of charge, and with volunteer work!

Read that again! They run this site, free of charge for members and maintain it with volunteer work. And because of kids, who can't follow the rules, they are put at risk. And that tells me that those kids are not Loyal or Like this site a whole lot. Nor do you for that matter.

Get off your high horse and read the rules, and then reconsider your words.

If JennMarie's computer crashed, then she either should have had the forethought to keep a copy of her stories on an external drive, or gotten herself one, and copy/pasted her stories onto one, from a computer that wasn't hers. I mean, she must have friends, or have access to public computers at a library or school.

Blaming AFF for the loss of her stories is childish and petty.

As for the staff being rude and abrasive, well, they don't exactly get treated with a great deal of respect much of the time. Just read your post again, Guest. Was that very polite. Were most of the posts before yours very polite? Honestly, the staff got a barrage of abuse from a bunch of kids that just did not want to understand that this was a serious breach of ToS, and then as good as blamed AFF for JennMarie losing all her stories. The staff were bending over backwards to provide people with contact information for JennMarie, so her fans could get in touch with her, and ask for her stories back and tell her she was welcome back if she wanted to, since she had turned 18.

And let me tell you something. The staff gets an extraordinary amount of shit from people who can't follow the ToS, and the staff has to politely ask them to conform to the rules. This can be as simple as correcting a disclaimer, and yet they get yelled and screamed at by little shitheads who think the rules don't apply to them.

Thankfully almost all of the writers follow the rules, and are very patient and polite when needing guidance to fix their disclaimers and other minor ToS violations. But there are always those rotten apples, you know.

As for the Hall of Shame, that is supposed to serve as a warning, as well as a deterrent for Plagiarists! There are very few members of Hall of Shame that have not been caught plagiarizing others. AFF has a very strict policy against plagiarism, and they do actively monitor such behavior. Maybe you should read Hall of Shame before you jump to conclusions. It is a very imaginative and funny way to warn people not to try that on this site.

And finally, what you said about driving "good" authors away from this site... Seriously?

The staff has been doing a bang up job this whole year, just like they did last year, and the year before that, and every years since they took over from the substitute staff that were (not) running this site for a few years before.

And they have not been petty and abrasive or derogatory or childish at all... yeah, sure, they've had their cranky moments, but wouldn't you too, after having shit thrown at you for weeks because someone got deleted for NOT Following The Rules!!

And they have refused to stoop down to this level, in many many cases, and that's why I decided to do it. Someone needs to stand up for them.

And I don't care if I'll get spanked for it. It's worth it.

I really, really want to point fingers, but I won't, but I can say that I know of at least one author who showed far more derogatory and childish behavior than anyone on AFF, after she was banned.

Also, just the fact that you have specifically mention that you are not JennMarie or any other author who's been banned, makes it so much more likely that you are. Not to mention that if you've been lurking on this site since 2002, then you either started lurking way before you were old enough, or you're being seriously childish for your age.

*draws deep breath, and lets it out slowly*

And that, Guest, is how you rant!!

*exit downstage right*