Sex Scene W/Yuri

[Guest Adara]

Alrighty! This is my problem;

I'm writing an erotica scene that is going to contain some mild Yuri. (At least I think it's going to be mild...who knows where the Muse takes me. ) I've never EVER written a same sex love scene or erotica bit before.

I'm not planning anything else beside kissing and what not, but I'm trying to figure out how to write it up so that it looks, well, "natural" and not "Porno."

Most of the stories of this nature I've caught have been rather...well, blatant crap. I want something with a bit more finesse than that. So, here's my question ladies and gents:

How do YOU write F/F sex scenes (if you do write them) or how would you approach it, if you ever considered doing it?

[Nanaea]

Have you been keeping up with the Orgy, Adara?

I know, I know... That's prolly not what you wanted or meant.

My anniversary contest story has some yuri in it which turned out fairly well, if I do say so myself.

I really don't know what to tell you as for how to write it. I just imagine what I would do or want or like in that situation and go from there. Real helpful, huh?

[Guest Adara]

Lol, I'll read your contest entry Nan, I'm sure I'll have an idea as to how you approached it. It's a rather difficult question actually, because like most stories, it depends upon the interpretation of what we consider a, "good" sex scene.

I have a pretty good idea as to HOW I want my characters to approach this...lol, situation, I just want to work on MY approach. LOL, can't have them do something out of character...even if they are MY characters.

[EveKnight75]

What are your characters like and what kind of sexual background do they have? That's the point you need to start working from.

If neither of them have any gay experience and neither one is overly bold by nature, start off with platonic action (at least, according to females), such as hugging, massages, dancing together, etc. Work your way up to stuff like nearly unnoticeable fondling during a hug, tense atmospheres, kisses on the forehead or cheek, etc. If one of them works up some courage, throw in a kissing scene (tongue is optional but I don't recommend it), but don't make it a make-out scene within the same go.

My first female partner was very shy and uncomfortable with PDA, so I'm talking from real experience here. Of course, I was much bolder

If you want something racier, let me know and I'll see what advice I can give on that front.

[Guest Adara]

That is GREAT advice Eve. I was completely at odds with this. I have a starting point now...lol, I've been mulling over this for AGES.

I wasn't thinking about adding anything too racy simply because neither character has ever had such an experience. Thanks again Eve!

[Nanaea]

Alright. Speaking from personal experience... I had a horrible crush on a girl I worked with years ago. We're became instant friends, but there was always that undercurrent of sexual attraction (at least for me). Since we were both pretty much perverts, she'd do totally random things, like flash me when nobody was in the store - or get right up behind me and whisper something naughty in my ear, which always made me blush. Of course, she was a huge tease, and we both had boyfriends so it never really went anywhere. Well, that and because when I'd finally had enough I ran my hand up the inside of her thigh and didn't stop until she fell backwards out of her chair.

I have another friend that made out with a girlfriend of hers once. They were just laying in her bed, talking about stuff, and they got closer and closer, and then they were kissing. It started very slowly and lasted for quite a while. She said that it was very enjoyable because there was no preconceived notion of pressure to do anything else.

Edited June 4, 2007 by Nanaea

[madlodger]

Can't speak from personal experience or from writing yuri, because I havn't. I do know how I would personally approach it.

I would base it on things like:

1) The reason for it. How did it come about. Was it unexpected spontaneous lust or it was building and boiling inside them for a while. Or was one of them blackmailed into it?

2) Do both characters have the same reason for it if it's consensual? One character can be madly in love, with a heart crying bloody tears, while another character is just experimenting for curiosity sake. Or just young and naive.

3) Their experience (I agree with EveKnigh on that point)

4) Their age and social status. Are they equals? A major gap would create problems and change the scene.

5) How does it serve the plot? Are there future plans for the couple (if they are a couple, that is)?

All those things would come into play. The scene doesn't have to be pornografic at all. It might be in parts about how they feel or what ran through their heads and so on.

Overall, sex between two females can't be so majorly different from m/f or m/m. Still the same species, not aliens, hehe. Let your imagination go.

Edited June 5, 2007 by madlodger

[DireAfterglow]

Even as a lesbian with a long standing sexual relationship, even I find it hard to write yuri sex scenes (though, strangely enough, yaoi comes quite naturally...), but I will do my best to give any advice that I've found helpful.

As a lot of the others have been saying, considering the background of your characters is very important. If you have a bold character, a shy character, a virgin character, an experienced character, it affects how the sex will develop overall. It's best to go a little in-depth when you are describing them to make them more of a person rather than a creature about to have crazy-hot sex.

For me, emphasizing the softness of girls comes to importance, not in manner but in their bodies. Girls are a lot of soft, curving planes no matter what build, though it can be emphasized differently if you're looking for a rough, dominating sex scene or something fluffy and loving. That, and the realness of it is important, too. With sex there is usually a lot of fumbling, getting caught in clothes and strange noises and new touches. I think it's better to describe those little things as well, that and making sure not to overkill on dialogue. Though some is good during sex if well written, there gets to a point where the pleasure should be well enough to keep them from talking, or at least from talking completely coherently…

When it comes to the mechanics itself, I think that that's where yuri becomes more difficult for me. There aren't a lot of words that sound as pleasant when describing female anatomy, it seems, without being either slander or almost medical. I've heard things ranging from pussy, vagina, juncture, mound, lips, sweetness….It's really depending on the mood of the piece. For me, that is honestly where I struggle the most-- the intimacy and foreplay comes easily, but the words to use are difficult (compared to with men where it's almost a glorification-- member, shaft, cock…).

Also, I'd say with female sex it becomes a lot about pleasing the partner rather than the self. Unless they are touching each other at the same time (which becomes difficult if you are trying to do things to your partner and concentrate, or unless sixty-nining…) generally (or at least in my experience), it's about taking turns. One partner usually makes sure to get the other off first, then the roles are switched. That also goes into the personality of your character-- whether they would please their partner first, expect to be pleased, and the way in which they please each other. That combined with the fact that girls can potentially have multiple orgasms is enough to create quite a lengthy sex scene.

If you're going for something a little less graphic, even just the slighest bit of affection can start everything. My first real kiss with a girl (and the same girl I'm with today) started when we had been rolling around in her bed, sticking out our tongues at each other playfully, and it evolved into something much more. It can be from something playful or even something angry that a relationship starts. It's not too much unlike yaoi or het pairings, really, how it all begins, though with girls I do want to say that there usually is a little more emotion involved from the get-go, if only from a prexisting relationship or the societal deviancy of the action. It's best to explore those emotions ranging from confusion, acceptance, and taboo, depending on the situation.

I have a problem with a lot of yuri I see written-- it's usually very cliché. The most important thing I can really say is to make it real; just because it's two girls doesn't make it perfect and beautiful and sexy. I think it's best written as if you're peaking into someone's real life (though maybe a little glorified-- it is fan fiction, after all) and getting a peak of intimacy from the inside.

Hopefully something I said helps and isn't just a late night/early morning rambling :3

Edited February 6, 2008 by DireAfterglow