julpups

@GG: Plot and title suggest a proper stand-alone episode at some time during S01-S04. I'd read it.
Is this thread just for proclaiming or should others feel encouraged to offer opinions and suggestions so the story might work after all?
Working title: Not Human at all
Fandom: Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Plot: S04 What if...
Starts with "Living Conditions". The Initiative coincidentally finds out about Willow's witchiness, abducts and confines her in its facility. They fake her death, remove uterus and oviducts, shave her hair and implant a chip similar to Spike's. They consider her not human and want to use her abilities for their own purposes. Walsh is the main meanie here. Riley is one of her captors but eventually turns from abettor to her only connection to the outer world as well as the only one who treats her human. At the end, he's a crucial element to her liberation.
Willow herself develops from plain victim to her own rescuer. The others believe her death until Riley, who started to date Buffy here as well, tells them the truth.
Supposed to be an alternate S04, where every character gets his/her adequate attention and the canon main topics are somehow merged in.
Fatal flaw: Everything! It was foredoomed from the beginning. Story is too big and advanced for a beginner and I didn't thought it through. After two chapters it was like "Errm, yeah. What comes next?" The bright side is that I really started to think about what it means to write a story with everything involved instead of having the "Ha! It just will work out somehow." mindset. The project is on hiatus now until I've gained more experience and skill by writing shortfics with much simpler demands.

I love Hush but it doesn’t even reach my top 5 of S04 alone. I guess, I’d rank it sixth after 1. Restless, 2. Fear Itself, 3. Something Blue, 4. Wilt At Heart, 5. Primeval.

These are sad news but I respect and understand your decision which had loomed ahead for quite some time anyway. It’s very decent of you to drop this statement. Thanks, anyway, for our talks. They were fun! And you know, when your time, passion and muse should come back… – I’m already too old to grow out of this kink anyway. 
You mean 20 instead of 30 guys? 
You’ve heard it, folks. Come, all of you talented porn fanfic writers and regale me for no money but lots of prestige! Consider this challenge timeless, active and topical. 

Hi all, Just wanted to throw out there that it’s now looking unlikely that I’ll be able to finish this request due mostly to time passed and my lack of writing time.
I’m very sorry to Julpups, especially and they provided a lot of extra detail and info and took time to work on thrashing it out with me. Should anybody else wish to take this idea up for them and wanted to use anything I’d suggested/put in, please feel free.
I hope to one day manage something on a smaller scale with a Willow gangbang and hope that someone else still takes the story up and writes it as Julpups envisaged.

One thing, whenever I see “Lol, I suck at summaries just read” or similar I don’t. Because if you can’t even put that effort in to write something then it doesn’t bode well for the story.
And now I must fly off mysteriously.

...fuck, that hit me right in the aging.

I tried adult roleplay once. Instructions unclear. Had a hell of a time getting the 20 sided dice out of my ass.

Ok, well I’m not sure I completely agree with all your assumptions there about fanfiction in general (forgive me), but I only really read and write adult fanfiction, so maybe.... I do think we should all strive for quality, especially where we are paying homage to something we love, example: Perhaps We May Hear Golden Trumpets by Aspen. And my favourite fanfictions of all time are where the writer (at least for me) does exceed the skill/standard of the original creator, example: Obsession by Ningengirai (read/heed the warnings please!).
The fanfictions I’ve quoted there are both beautiful examples of great in-character writing. Every sentence serves the characters and their development as well as the action, and are mindblowingly gorgeous into the bargain. Yes, they are adult, but that is not all they are. I believe those writers have created something that transcends simple glorification of the original authors, great though those people might be.
The kind of fanfiction writers I love don’t set out to “outdo” or please the copyright holder, they set out to please the characters. We write fanfiction because the characters tell us to, not because the original author said it is okay (though I am really glad that most of them do allow fanfiction of their worlds and universes).
Ok… have I finished growling? Yes, I think I have! Onward!
(sorry about that)
Well, I am not sure after all of that how to answer your question. For me, I would say that I don’t get into Character A’s head… I let them into mine, and usually they’ll tell me everything without me needing to think about it at all. Where the original media is visual, there is actually a lot more to play with. I often find that most actors have certain tics and idiosyncracies that they can’t help, that become part of each character they play, and I’ll sometimes consciously echo those in fanfiction. Really good actors invent those same tics and idiosyncracies for each character they play. Use them. Where the media is a book, you can always try and flavour your language to create a reminder of the source material, although I think you can go too far with this, so be sparing and don’t lose your own narrative voice. If you spend a lot of time with the souce material (i.e. hours and hours) those things will happen without needing to really think about it too much. A lot of fanfiction is about creating a very subtle kind of echo that the reader doesn’t notice, while still managing to inject something new that you want to put there.
Dialogue is a place where a lot of writers fall down for me, and bad dialogue will almost always make me stop reading a story immediately. For instance (to use two of my favourite fandoms), Elrond would never say: “Hi!” Partly because ‘Hi’ is not an acceptable greeting, partly because he’s always more wordy than that, and partly because everything Elrond says must enable him to use up a series of differing facial expressions ranging from mild surprise to intense frowing (I do blame Hugo Weaving for that). Whereas Jack Harkness would never only say: “Hello.” You know, because he’d have to flirt. Even if Character B was a blob of brown goo with a couple of antenna sticking out. In fact, he’d consider that some kind of new and exciting physical challenge.
Listen to the characters. They’ve usually got loads of words of their own, all saved up, just waiting for someone to write them down. Sometimes I hear them so clearly I end up with lots of dialogue that I then have to fill in. Not a pleasant writing experience, but at least it means the characters are coming through loud and clear, and it usually means they’re interacting well with each other.
Ok… now I sound completely insane.
At the same time, never write dialogue exclusively. Always give your characters something to do, or think or feel. Usually when I do this, I find the characters start thinking in adult ways, and before you know it… they’re at it. Admittedily, it’s a lot easier to make Harkness do this than some others. If your character is kind of hard to impress or doesn’t want to misbehave for some other reason, then seduce them into it. Make the story work for you so that the character can’t help but respond. You don’t have to change the character’s personality. You change their environment and their interactions until they have no choice. In one of my stories the Marquis de Sade spends the entire twenty-five or so chapters completely seducing and ruining a priest. All characters have weaknesses you can exploit, no matter who they are. Sometimes you might hit a dead end, so just go back and try something else.
I should note that by “seduce” I don’t necessarily mean sex. I mean to seduce as in to develop the character in such a way that adult fiction will be the end result. Characters are not fixed points (well, except for Harkness, but since he’d do anyone at the drop of a hat, he doesn’t strictly count… neither does he count). If you develop the character slowly enough, and believably enough, you can’t fail.
And lastly, if you’re still wanting advice and not thinking: why the hell doesn’t this pippychick bird ever shut up?! then I’d say a good way to check if you’re going in the right direction is to imagine the scene(s) you’re writing from the pov of each of the characters. It should work just as seamlessly for them all. Even if Character B will never be the pov character, make sure you know why they do and say the things they do. The reader might not consciously notice, but it will give your story plausibility if the motivations are there for all of the characters. And the reader is who we’re trying to catch at the end of the day. We make the characters think and feel because we want the reader to think and to feel along those same lines. The reader is the one we want to seduce, via the characters.
Right. I am finally shutting up.

Sneaky little Summerses! That was exactly my issue. First glance, I knew the answer. Glances two through five I grew more unsure. Glance six, I was curled into a fetal ball babbling about the return of the kindly ones.
Thanks for this also! As further illumination goes, it’s pretty darn lit up.
Although, no matter how serious my writing, I’m gonna let beauty trump technicality. Actually, beauty is pushing it for mine. Readability, say.

Have you tried several times in a row? I have the same phenomenon with Chrome sometimes. It’s kinda like launching a chainsaw; a few attempts in short order and AFF purrs like a kitten. Worked for me so far.

Have you tried several times in a row? I have the same phenomenon with Chrome sometimes. It’s kinda like launching a chainsaw; a few attempts in short order and AFF purrs like a kitten. Worked for me so far.

Did you ever see Starship Troopers 2? One of those control bugs.
Anyway, it’s pretty much finished but I’ll hold off putting it on AFF for a little bit so I can do another check over for typos that my brain* has been hiding from me.
Thanks everyone for the assist.
*or brain bug? Dah DAH DAAAAH….

Sounds a bit like the Goa’uld/Tok’ra from Stargate. Is the host merely remote-controlled by the parasite but still fully aware and sentient of what is happening? In this case, 3plus makes sense and the Rape tag would be appropriate twofold. I’m curious, even though it has nothing to do with the new President of the United States.

Sounds a bit like the Goa’uld/Tok’ra from Stargate. Is the host merely remote-controlled by the parasite but still fully aware and sentient of what is happening? In this case, 3plus makes sense and the Rape tag would be appropriate twofold. I’m curious, even though it has nothing to do with the new President of the United States.

Well on the face of it, I’d say it doesn’t require the 3plus tag, but then it kind of depends.
If the parasite is actually self-aware then things change, and definitely if the parasite is self-aware and getting some kind of vicarious sexual thrill out of screwing the female of the species. In both of those instances, I’d use the tag.
I would like to clarify that this post – at least on the face of it – has nothing to do with the new President of the United States.
 
 

I… I now find myself wondering the difference between [Abortion], [Abortion+] and [Abortion++] is it like one’s through planned parenthood, the others are wire coat hanger or falcon punch? “Mpreg’s the disease, Captain Falcon is the cure!”
So reading through It sounds ultimately that 3plus is probably for the best – while some readers will be a little disappointed there aren’t three people going at it at the same time, and I can see where GG is coming from, the control by the parasite is central to the story and it is self-aware so it’s more than just a voy thing. And I just realised I probably need to throw a Necro tag in there too for the last paragraph or so. Better safe than sorry even if it is just solo over remains. I’m also putting a Rape tag on because it’s clearly rape-by-deception not to explain you’re actually a meat puppet controlled by a parasite.
Pippychick – It’s a PWP snuff fic (brain parasites being bad for health) crossover. I’d suggest most forum users and quite a few site readers would be best avoiding it - one of those niche stories! I know you’re great at dark themes yourself but this is on the ponographic filth side rather than the arty atmospheric literature side !
 
 

Hi,
Thanks in advance for your time, site staff and any general passers by with two cents.
Partly as a little break from wrangling Willow’s psychology that I’ve been working on again lately, I’ve bashed out a short scene for someone else and when it came to coding it I wasn’t sure if I just be adding the 3plus tag.
For the sex there’s a man and a woman, but the man has a kind of brain parasite controlling his actions so an argument could be made that there’s three involved even if one of them is only inside another’s brain. Does this need a 3plus tag?
I would like to clarify that this story is in no way political and has nothing to do with the new President of the United States.
 
 
 
 

I’m still intending to do the Willow story when I have time. And that 100 word prompt challenge. But since it’s been over a year since I was able to write anything, an extra chapter of this’n isn’t such a terrible thing. I had trouble keeping it in present tense and probably messed up again despite some re-writing.
You!
 
Thank you for your comments. I understand it is not the first chapter I’ve written that has caused peeing. Sarsa’s stories are worse than 2016, because 2016 eventually came to an end but Sarsa is still writing. I may not be back at it for long, I think I’ll have little time

Sorry to disappoint any necrophiles with particularly low standards.
I’m still too busy/tired to write anything but I was feeling totally Journally and don’t have a livejournal anymore so…. here I am! Personal rants and journals!
The rant portion: Frustrated not to get any writing done, and very little reading. S’a pain because writing is one thing that makes me happy!
The non-rant potion: Getting paid regularly is nice, there were a few years there where it was touch and go but not now.
The completely irrelevant portion: I liked the film Hook as a kid.
Well, that’s me done. Spirit of brevity, is JD.
Hope folks are well and such. ta-ra. and not a dig at people not getting paid regularly, hopefully things’ll work out for you.