Edward_or_Ford

Glad you're enjoying it. There is a reason for the subtle religious context. And not just the obvious one (the fact that the parents are devout Christians and therefore extremely opposed to the nature of their relationship). You'll get the answers when I get past this damned writer's block and finish the story. (Fucking angst! I didn't know it would be so hard to write!) Sorry for now. Maybe???? ;-) Edward_or_Ford

Not terrible, a little "dispassionate" for sure, but very intelligible. Download the introduction and a chapter or two, and see. Edward_or_Ford

In a private PM, FairySlayer told me that he(?) has a process for running text through a Word macro to do some basic cleanup of the formatting, then runs it through a Text-to-Speech program called "eSpeak". Didn't say specifically, but I gather he does this for all stories of any significant length. Generally does this so he can walk and travel while listening, and to avoid eye strain. He wanted to clean up the code for the process before sharing it out. In any rate, here are the links to Fistbump, that he shared with me: Edward_or_Ford - Fistbump 01.mp3 Edward_or_Ford - Fistbump 02.mp3 Edward_or_Ford - Fistbump 03.mp3 Edward_or_Ford - Fistbump 04.mp3 Edward_or_Ford - Fistbump 05.mp3 Edward_or_Ford - Fistbump 06.mp3 Edward_or_Ford - Fistbump 07.mp3 Edward_or_Ford - Fistbump 08.mp3 Edward_or_Ford - Fistbump 09.mp3 Edward_or_Ford - Fistbump 10.mp3 Just because I found the idea interesting, I've actually just been finishing making better versions of "Fistbump", by manually recording the output of my Android phone's output through the headphone jack. They sound much better to my ears, but took quite a bit more effort to actually do than I'm sure FairySlayer had to do. Here's the link to the folder with all the files: https://mega.co.nz/#F!WgBjzS6A!K4YxVHoG4R4fpBZQtusW4Q In case you want to know how I did this: Installed the Ivona TTS HQ app on the (Android 5.0) phone, then downloaded the "Kendra" (US English) file. Went into the phone's settings and changed the default TTS engine to Kendra Installed the Cool Reader ebook reading app (which can use the TTS engine) Did a "save as" on the story as a "TXT" file (not RTF, as Cool Reader has issues with italics and bold), then transfer to the phone Opened the TXT in Cool Reader, verifying that the program's "read aloud" feature works. Plugged the phone's headphone jack into the computer's "line in" jack. Used Audacity on the computer to record the audio playing from the phone into the computer, then convert to MP3 (make sure you put the phone in airplane mode so it doesn't ring while you're playing the file back). Used MP3TAG to clean up the metadata, and add album art to the files. Yikes, that was a lot of effort, but it actually sounds pretty good! The biggest issue is the lack of interpretation of emphasis: my dialogue uses italics heavily, and all that is lost in the audio. Still, hope some folks enjoy it. Have at it, everyone! Edward_or_Ford

I have a new review for the original Fistbump, and it's phenomenal. I figure the story has now been up and finished for over 2 months, so I'm okay with the spoilers. Plus FairySlayer added a warning, so that's great. It is true that I prefer a slow build to the story, making sure that the reader understands the emotions and motivations of the characters, and that the events are necessary in laying the groundwork for what happens in the end. I'm glad that there is an audience that likes this type of story, and I'm just happy to share it with them. FairySlayer, thank you very much for the appreciative words. The most interesting part was that FairySlayer converted all 10 chapters to MP3 format, and shared them with me. I find them pretty janky, and really requires focus to listen to, but nonetheless it is very nice to have them available as a resource. I will figure out how to share them, as per the permission granted above. Edward_or_Ford

Another reaction to Chapter 6 (and I kind of expected this one...) He's not an idiot, he's just being Dipper, a neurotic and paranoid kid who's probably correct about what would happen if (when) they get caught. But yeah, he does underestimate what kind of a reaction this would create for Mabel. I've not watched "Supernatural", but I've heard of that which you speak of. But yeah ... The angst is going to get pretty bad, actually. Just giving you fair warning. Trying to make it bearable is probably why I'm having so much trouble being satisfied with what I'm writing for the upcoming chapters. Hopefully that will be soon. Edward_or_Ford

Yes, the issue is now gone for me, too. I was able to create a review without a problem. I've deleted mine (and yours), and I'll message my fan and ask that he re-try to create his review. Very odd glitch, hope it doesn't come back. Edward_or_Ford

Just thought that I'd point out that there has been a curious issue about this for me, as well. I posted my story as "Adult+", but it has always (since the day I posted it) showed up as "Adult++" on the Cartoon archive page. But on the "Gravity Falls" category page, it shows as "Adult+". Multiple browsers, multiple computers, repeatable. Doesn't bother me that much: I was actually not sure if 14-year-old incest was controversial enough to qualify as "Adult++" or not, but I saw this thread and thought you might want to look into why it is doing this. Thanks. Edward_or_Ford

This morning I received a direct email from a reader, saying he could not leave a review of my story in the archive. I have confirmed this, I receive the message "Could not open socket" when I try to submit a review (anonymous or logged in). Don't know if it is system-wide, or just my story. Link to my story. Thanks. Edward_or_Ford

Chapter 6 up for a couple of days now, and a couple of quick reviews... Ummm, I think it's been fairly well established that Dipper is positive that their parents would physically move one of them out of the house if they knew about the relationship. I'm pretty sure telling them would be a bad idea! Ha, I assume you're referring to Dipper's ludicrously convoluted plan for getting out of Mabel's room. I loved writing that paragraph. It shows how Dipper can get so into making complex plans to solve problems logically, but never thinks to include Mabel in anything critical to success. If he could only ever figure out how to depend on someone other than himself, things would come so much easier for him. _________ And, your wait for the next chapter begins. I'm currently going through a nasty bout of writer's block. I know exactly what Chapter 7 needs to accomplish, but I hate everything that's coming out on the screen for the last couple of weeks. Please be patient, I'll get past this eventually. Edward_or_Ford

More quick reviews, following Chapter 5's release: Yes, the rather "abrupt" end of Chapter 5 was a tad predictable (it's not like I didn't foreshadow the possibility), and also pretty brutal timing for the twins. But I think that ten more seconds might have made things even *worse*, though: can you imagine trying to process your parents walking in the door at the *same time* as you're coming inside your sister? Yikes, instant systems crash! Edward_or_Ford

Three more reviews, following the publication of Chapter 4 to "Fistbump 2": Yes yes it is! Thank you, it's more of a setup chapter for what's to come next. Hmm, you may notice that one half of this pairing has been a little bit more willing to deny that there's a problem with continuing to pursue their relationship. As far as fanfiction.net goes, kojivsleo has been encouraging me to submit my stories there. He sent me a list of some more mature stories he's found there, as evidence that "Fistbump" may be appropriate to be published. I have to do some reading first, before I decide or not. Edward_or_Ford

Another review, following the posting of Chapter 3: ForgetMeNaught has since agreed to assist me with editing of my work, since he posted this review. Since this whole "writing" thing is actually pretty new to me (I was never interested in it before in school, years ago), his input is invaluable. And thanks again for your continued support of the story. Chapter 4 will be posted shortly. Edward_or_Ford

Hey, giving credit for a good story isn't a problem. I can tell you've got a talent for this stuff. Neither one of us are writing anything we can ever show off to the "real world", so feedback here is really valuable. My style is, as you pointed out in your review of "Fistbump 2", somewhat geared toward realism. In both of my stories, I've been dealing with the characters as I've transported them from the wild adventure and innocence of the show, and dropped them into the real world (yes, I have researched Portland and Piedmont quite thoroughly, and incorporated actual locations into both of my stories). I have creativity only for the characters, while you have also worked on expanding the universe of Kid vs Kat and the bizarre things that happen there. That's not in my skill set, and I envy that in writers who can do that. Funny how personal history can make a big difference. I can't relate to how what you experienced as a child, because I have *zero* personal experience with incest (my sister is four years older than me, and neither she nor any relatives factor at all in any fantasy of mine), and I had no sexual experiences of any kind at a young age. My wife is my first and only girlfriend I've ever had. Now in my 40's, I'm happily married with a teenage kid, and what I do here is completely unrelated to anything that goes on in real life. Yet, this subject matter (and the awesome Pines twins, specifically) triggered this strange compulsion to write dirty fanfics, the first bit of creative writing I've done in a quarter of a century. My brain's weird, but I guess it's the only one I've got, so c'est la vie. And so true about personal tastes in fanfics. It all comes down to what inspires you, and what you find gets you off. Yeah, it's all fiction, and not based in any kind of reality so it's all cool. But I have a narrow subset of stuff that I like, and "slightly older angsty Pinecest" is what I like, I guess! Good to see you created a permanent forum account. I'll catch you around here. Edward_or_Ford

Yeah, some of this actually hurt a bit while I was writing it... and its actually going to get quite a bit worse. Sorry in advance. I threw in some extra "Angst" tags to the story summary to make sure everyone gets the point :-) Edward_or_Ford

Taken out of context, this is one of my favorite comments of all time! :-D Edward_or_Ford

Chapter 3 is out, and a couple of more reviews.... Oh, you're not wrong, Gooch! Then, came this doozy of a review.... How cool is it that I read a reviewer's opinion that my story is not his cup of tea and he won't be finishing reading it, and I think he has written the most awesome review of all? OK, so yes there's a lot of angst in this story. I wasn't exaggerating in the Author's Notes at the start of the story. In fact, if Kris finds Chapter 3 unbearable, well it's a good thing he's not going to be reading the rest, because the angst has barely started in this story! But ..... AUGGGHHHH!!!! ... So ... much ... I ... want ... to ... say!!! But I can't, not without ruining chapters I haven't published yet (and more chapters I haven't even written yet). If you can handle some pretty intense feels, I think you're going to like this story. That's as much as I'll say. :-) Edward_or_Ford

A couple of quick replies after Chapter 2 was posted ... Thank you. I think you'll find this one a bit more "intense" than the last one. <Spoiler alert> Ahhhh...... no. A little hard to believe for a fourteen-year-old to keep that a secret from her parents. Kind of hurts the narrative drama. Plus, I guess I'm just not into that. I'm not dismissing the possibility of pregnancy in a future story, when they are much older, but even then I'm calling it unlikely. Sorry. </Spoiler alert> Edward_or_Ford

A couple of early reviews for Fistbump 2: Well, it says "a Pinecest story" right in the title. I think there's pretty good odds there. :-) Thanks, Belfry. So little is known about Dipper and Mabel's parents in "Gravity Falls", so fleshing them out was difficult. I figured that there's no way they could be naive or clueless, and I figured they'd also have to be kind of funny and pretty much "good parents" in general, given how awesome the twins turned out. Making them into "Fundies" was a good way to make sure that the cost of getting caught was going to be high, but I didn't want them to be caricatures of over-zealous Bible-thumpers. I'll be dribbling this story out, a new chapter released every few days. There will be 12 chapters. I'm about half done writing the story, and a week-plus long case of writer's block has been overcome, so I should be good. Edward_or_Ford

I've posted the first chapter of the sequel, which I've subtitled "Unspeakable". Prepare for substantially more angst. Link to the story at: Fistbump 2: Unspeakable (a Pinecest story) Edward_or_Ford

Heh, I replied direct to kojivsleo, and he beat me to this thread before I could post his review. I had mentioned that I didn't think this story fit into the FF.net standards. I don't know, I might post it there to see what happens. Anyone else care to comment on whether I should or not? As far as the sequel goes, I'm happy with the first six chapters, and I know what I want to happen in the remaining six, but I am currently in creative quicksand. Also, no time right now. Eventually, I'll get it done. Thanks again for the positive review. Edward_or_Ford

Thought I'd throw in the first three reviews that had been posted, all of which I deleted and asked to be reposted because of the spoilery commentary: Thanks again to all three authors, these were my first feedback, all of them positive. Very much appreciated. Edward_or_Ford

Wow, thank you a million times back for your reply. Since Deadwater obviously has not seen this thread here in the forums (or he/she would have known how old I am), I am heartened by the confirmation that the story was plausible. Making this a story that "rings true" to the characters, while also providing a fanciful tale with an incest kick, was precisely what I was going for. My biggest failing, I believe, was the comedy side: I just couldn't come up with enough lines for Mabel that were funny, in my opinion. Oh, well. Edward_or_Ford

Author: Edward_or_Ford Title: Fistbump (a Pinecest story) Summary: Dipper and Mabel, their 14th birthday celebration in the city, and the fallout. Feedback: I welcome all feedback in the reviews Fandom: Gravity Falls Pairing: Dipper and Mabel Warnings: inc, Minor2, M/F, oral Solo story or chaptered story: 10 chapters, COMPLETE. 28,000+ words. URL: http://cartoon.adult-fanfiction.org/story.php?no=600094674 I posted this a little under a week ago, thought that folks outside the cartoon archive might want to have a read. You don't have to be familiar with the show, although if you are it adds understanding to some of the references. It's pretty long, but for my first fanfic it seems to be very well received so far. I worked very hard on it, and I hope you enjoy it! Edward_or_Ford

You know, I should probably link back to the story in question, you think? Fistbump (a Pinecest story) Edward_or_Ford

ForgetMeNaught comes though! Yeah, ForgetMeNaught's referring to the first day that the story was posted, I used asterisks surrounding words to show emphasis (instead of italics), and didn't use horizontal rules to separate sections of text. That came from the fact that I haven't used a word processor for years, I wrote the story in a plain text editor, then just cut and pasted into this site. I had to manually edit all the text to remove the asterisks and add the italics, but yes, I agree, it looks and reads much better now. High praise, thank you! After re-reading the story, I actually am fairly pleased with how it turned out, and surprised at how very little I feel like changing. I've gone in and edited various spelling and formatting gaffes, but everything narrative-wise is the same. I wanted the plot to be as "realistic" as possible (I know, setting aside that "Gravity Falls" is pretty far from realistic), so I tried to have everything that happens to be completely plausible, from the Portland setting, to the adolescent plans and reactions, to the sex itself. Yes, I'll admit that my depiction of their first time sleeping with one another was idealized, but it was at least possible to have gone down that way with young teenagers. Here in the forums, I don't think that we should be afraid to spoil plots. Nobody is reading here unless they've already read the story in the archive. So on the subject of the ending, I'm glad the sorrowful conclusion seems to have the desired effect. I'm not normally in favor of depressing endings to stories, but right from the first inception of this story in my head, this was always how I pictured it ending. I just can't see a happy ending for this situation: a torrid short-term romance between emotionally immature siblings, who are dumped back into a "normal" family household in a "normal" suburban city. If I wanted to continue to be "realistic", there was no other way to end the story. Thanks again, folks. Edward_or_Ford