Edward_or_Ford

I thank you again for the praise of my writing. I believe that it is somewhat undeserved, but no matter: I accept it! You will find out how they finally deal with this situation eventually, I promise. I have more ideas in my head for additional stories in this Universe, and (this is a minor spoiler) I can guarantee that the subject matters of these subsequent stories will not be as difficult for me write. Since the ending of this story sets up the stories that will follow, take of that what you will. (And fair warning, I was very careful with the wording of that last paragraph. Be careful what you deduce from it. Yes, I'm deliberately being a bit of a dick right now! ) I haven't made any progress yet in getting anything more into the keyboard: I need a lot of uninterrupted time to write, and time is a rare commodity for me right now. Please be patient with me. I guarantee you will not see another chapter out of me before the end of this month, and maybe not until closer to the end of next month. Sorry. If it comes earlier than that, consider it a bonus. Keep checking back. E-o-F

Oh, I wasn't intending to agree with the other opinion of the work (though I see how my wording implied that). To be sure, I definitely found the story to fit into the horror genre. I was trying to throw the word "gross" out as not the most important thing: that if one critic's opinion is that it was gross, c'est la vie, but keep on doing it! Like I said, horror and rape just aren't my things. I like FMN's writing, but I probably should have kept my yap shut on this one.

I recommend cookie dough flavor ice cream. Then go back and write all the gross horror you want. And maybe also some stuff for weenies like me and that other critic, if you want. :-)

C'mon, man. I emailed you privately before posting that review precisely because I don't want you to doubt your skill or vision. This place is called "adult" fanfiction. I'm the one who's the pussy here, who can't stomach rape fiction, or horror in general as a genre. You said in your private reply that you have always considered yourself primarily as a horror writer. There's nothing wrong with that, not on this site. This isn't like Tumblr, where there's a few big groupthink cliques within each fandom of the "correct" way to write. This obviously floats your boat, or you wouldn't have written it. Own it, dude! Like I told you, when I first sent the review privately, I didn't want to post it. You wanted it posted anyways, so I did. I'd rather remove my review than have one of the best storytellers on this site start self-censoring himself because of my weak constitution. You coached largely the same message to me months ago as I struggled with my writing, referring to the level of angst I have in a story of mine. Sure enough, there's been some push back, but thanks to you I really don't feel I have to cater to a couple of complainers. I hope they stick with the story anyways, but I want to tell a certain kind of story. So do you. If you want to please a different audience, maybe consider writing an alternate version of the same premise. But when you're writing for free, please yourself first!

Thanks, buddy. I've almost brought all the hurt I need to bring. Fuck, has it been painful to do. I'm never writing super-angsty stuff ever again!

Double shot of Killgore :-) Thanks, friend! Don't worry, my "vision" for the story has never really wavered. I had been a bit apprehensive of the amount of "feels" that I was shoveling around, at least for a short while. But now I'm comfortable with the way I write (even when it's difficult to do). Yeah, sometimes it reads like a teenage girl writing this instead of a straight dude in his 40s, but it is what it is. :-) Chapter 10 won't be nearly as lengthy, but I have yet to even begin typing it yet (I've got big chunks of Chapters 11 and 12 written, and the Epilogue has been completely done for weeks now: I should probably write in order). So I don't know when you'll see it. I know, sooner the better, but it'll come out when it's done, not before. The good news is that when Chapter 10 *is* done, the rest of the entire story should come out really quickly after that. Stay tuned, and thanks again. E-o-F

Chapter 9 is up. Let the pain ... continue! E-o-F

Ah, screw being an Anon, my ID is anonymous enough. I was the one at the water park, and my reaction to your story is 100% accurate. "Fireworks" is one arousing piece of work. I didn't completely lose my load, thankfully. I managed to shut myself down after only a couple of squirts, leaving me incredibly hard, really uncomfortable, and primed to blow the rest of several days of build up if I even touched myself. I was sitting by the wave pool. It's over a 5 minute walk to the change and shower rooms. Forgive me, fellow swimmers, but desperate times, desperate measures, ya know? I hid my phone away and ran straight into the pool. Ahhhhhh! Again, thank you sir! E-o-F

Thanks guys. I'm glad at least a few of you are appreciating the non-sexual portion of the story. I conceived the chapter-by-chapter breakdown here back in March & April, but this section in retrospect has seemed more appropriate for my Tumblr audience. Although I've been investing too much time there, and I just voluntarily cut myself back from Tumblr just last night. Too much risk, too much guilt at home. Like I said, I'm hopeful that the next chapter will be done soon, and that the others will flow easier after that. Thanks.

Killgore 2015-09-01 id # 3000070841 This is one of the best stories that I have read. The sense of emotion reflects that of real life. You are highly talented at this, can't wait for the next chapter. Hope it comes soon. Great work To you, and the other poster above, I appreciate the kind words. As for when to expect the next chapter: hopefully not too long. But I've got to tell you, writing angsty stuff is killing me. Little bits of my soul die with every word I type. If I'd known this, I'd never have begun. This is what you get when you follow the progress of a rookie writer. Sorry.

Wow, I've never been through anything like that myself, but I'm pleased that I got across those feelings of frustration, and that they rang true to you. Edward_or_Ford

New review here... Reminds me of peak oil: the point at which it is reached is always later on than expected. In this case, I'm sorry to say, "peak angst" is still to come. Sorry! :-P Edward_or_Ford

Yeah, I can't even imagine starting to write, let alone publish, any chapters of a story, and not having all the main elements of the plot set in stone in my mind. I originally was going to write *all* of Fistbump 2 (like I did the original) before publishing any of it. When I got stuck on Chapter 7, I thought it was just a short delay, and I started putting out the first six, thinking I'd stay ahead when the writing came back. And, as you know, Chapter 7 took 3 months! But my point is that as much as what I wrote for Chapter 7 changed over and over, the plot is still exactly the same as what I had envisaged for it back in April. Oh, and I forgot the review over in the archive: I knew that it was important to rip Dipper down a bit more, and doing it this way gives him two good reasons for what will happen with him coming up. I think you've already guessed what he's going to do next, thinking it's going to help him cope. Also, in case it hasn't been obvious yet, I decided (right from the 2nd section of Chapter 1) to make the story arc follow Mabel's methods of dealing with grief (the famous "five stages" of grief). The end of the first story marked the loss of the relationship, which was just becoming a reality as soon as the walked in the door to their house in California. For the first 6 chapters of the sequel, she's in stage 1 (denial), as she chooses to only *act* like its over, and even allows her denial to overcome the trauma of feeling violated. When Dipper unquestionably ends things at the end of chapter 6, stage 2 (anger) sets in. Stage 3 (bargaining) is where she's desperate to see what, if anything, can be done to repair things, and question what she could have done differently. When that runs out (end of Chapter 8), you get stage 4, which is depression. So the awful tone of this story will continue for a bit longer. I wasn't kidding when I put "angst" into the story description five times! Edward_or_Ford

A bit of time, but mostly just felt the creative juices flowing again, finally. Chapters 7 & 8 actually got done at the same time. Chapter 9 is about 2/3 done now. There will be 12 chapters, plus an Epilogue (which I've also already finished, and it's the best thing I've written yet. I'm really pleased with how that turned out. You'll see when it comes out at the very end.) Still, over three chapters to slog out yet. The first Fistbump was 28,000 words. This beast is shaping up to maybe end up double that. How about you? Anything coming from you soon? Edward_or_Ford

Maybe a touchy way to describe that at this juncture... LOL! Yeah, maybe a bit of an unfortunate metaphor to make there, Belfry, considering my current situation! :-) Oh, and by the way... Chapter 8 is up! Edward_or_Ford

Thanks Belfry. That's the kind of feelings I was going for. And now, a couple of reviews from the archive page for Chapter 7.... Yeah, the formatting choice was one that came out of my dislike for the way the story was coming out. This chapter took over 3 *months* to write. I think I threw everything out twice. Interspersing the daily flashbacks into the final climatic scene worked as a way to break up the horrific final day of the narrative. Telling the story chronologically was just too heavy and depressing taken all at once. And although it seemed like there was no advancement, despite days of events, most of the content in this chapter does serve advancement of plot that will be addressed later. And I wanted to portray Mabel's transition (from silent treatment to outburst) to feel justified after days of bottling up her anger. The tension ain't going away: my next chapter's almost complete, and ugliness abounds. Still, glad you're liking where it's going. Thanks! Heh. Sometimes fucking your sister just isn't worth the pain! Other times, though, it is! Which way does it go here? See you in a couple of days with a new chapter, I hope. Edward_or_Ford

I'm back! I just posted Chapter 7 of "Fistbump 2". Apologies in advance: as promised, its angsty as all hell, and smut is going to be delayed until later in this story. You've been warned. :-) Edward_or_Ford

An update for you all.... My wife believes me to be a "sick fuck" for what I was reading on Tumblr, but did not discover my writing career. Thank the deity she's technically inept. Whatever trouble I'm in with her now, I know it'd be far worse if she found the rest. I'm pretty confident she won't find it on her own, or I'd have deleted my profile here already. I just can't fuck up again, so farewell smartphone apps. She's suspicious of my computer time now, but she'll have to get over it since doing systems admin is kind of what I do for a living. I'm going to continue to put myself on hiatus until this blows over a bit more. However, if the worst case scenario happens (I have to give this up in order to preserve my marriage), I've already been messaging with ForgetMeNaught: he's offered to take my plot outline and finish "Fistbump 2" on my behalf if it comes to that. I'm really hoping it doesn't come to that :-( Meanwhile, as the British say, "Keep calm, and ship Pinecest." Edward_or_Ford

OK, so yesterday my wife found the Tumblr app on my phone, and kind of freaked at the stuff I was following. Oops. So far, she doesn't know that I was posting anything there (the same two "Fistbump" stories as here), but she saw my user name and may figure it out. And since my AFF user name is almost identical (and the story is very searchable on Google), the jig may be up for me here, too. So for now, I'm laying low. If I come back, it's either really good news (she doesn't find out), or really bad news (she leaves me). We'll see. Wish me luck, folks. Edward_or_Ford

Yeah, it was flattering, and fun. A lot of the best conversation happened after he stopped recording, though. We talked for over an hour. Crossing fingers that no one I actually know in meatspace chances to hear it, though, and recognizes my voice. (Should I have used a voice scrambler? ) E_o_F

Glancing back at this thread, it's great to see the dialogue pick up. At first, it was just me yelling back responses to reviews with no interaction. (I wish AFF were able to integrate the forums more seamlessly into the archives, it would make discussion easier with people.) Speaking of dialogue, I see that I completely forgot to post a link to my "xXDasXGoochXx" interview! Want to hear an amateur hack talk about writing his first fanfic? This is the place! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlKL1W6_afo Thanks, friend. I'm more jealous of your writing skills, though. Still eagerly looking forward to your next installment. Edward_or_Ford

Aw, shucks! Now you're making me feel all bad about my current slump. I was considering just putting up Chapter 7 as is, even though I really don't like it. Now I've gotta buckle down and see if I can properly conquer this beast named "angst". (Seriously, I'm a dude in my 40's! Writing about the misery of fictional teenage twins in love should not give me the "feels" as much as it is. Someone help me! ) But truthfully, thank you very, very much for the compliment. Just ... wow! Edward_or_Ford

Alright. But bringing this back to the particular subject matter of my story, does this right to marry extend to a brother and sister? Ughh, I don't know! Personally, I don't think *I'd* be in favor of it (which shows how much of a hypocrite I am, that I find incest to be both attractive and immoral at the same time). Weren't we all discussing smutty fan fiction? :-) Edward_or_Ford

Well then, I can tell you from someone who has been trying, but in a couple of (somewhat obvious) ways failing, to be a decent Christian, I agree with your sentiment. And no, I do not find you weird. Don't misunderstand me: I would never wish a pair of actual real-life siblings to really have to deal with handling an incestuous relationship. It's bad enough that I privately find such a fictional relationship to be arousing, but holy crap would it ever suck if I was actually faced with having such feelings for my sister. The LGBT crowd's "right to love" is easy to claim by comparison. (trying desperately to not say anything ..... ) If you're trying to influence me on how the story ends, you're too late: I already have the story's plot fully laid out. I just have to type it out in a way that doesn't suck. :-) Still, your flattery is appreciated! Thank you, and please keep checking back, I'll get the next couple of chapters posted relatively soon, I hope. Edward_or_Ford

Fistbump 2 review again on the archive: As I've said before, the angst is really getting going to be ratcheted up in Chapters 7 and 8, which I've not yet published because, well, it's really, really angsty! I'm still working on making it bearable, but rest assured it won't be pretty for a couple of chapters. And at the risk of succumbing to "too much information" syndrome, let's just say that I've seen a lot of similarities to myself at a young age when I've looked at Dipper. His physical and/or behavioral failings are very much realistic for a late-blooming, introverted, neurotic young teenager. Maybe that doesn't make for the best porn story, but it is what it is as far as what I see happening to these characters, in this universe. Edward_or_Ford