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Thank you so much! Yes, I think you’re right about Tormund. He finds hope where he can, and if it can’t be found, he will make it. He’s the opposite of Clegane in many ways, who seems to have found some kind of weird home in hopelessness. It’s like his friend. Yet he’s just as much of a survivor, and just as impressive. During the course of this story, it will be interesting to see how their sway over each other changes. For this upcoming war, and perhaps for a while afterwards, Tormund has the more appropriate outlook. Brienne is where the two meet in the middle. But later, Clegane’s outlook might prove useful, really, and wouldn’t it be interesting if Tormund ever came to rely on Clegane’s strength? On that ability to let despair in and still win anyway? As for the actual ending, I am having interesting thoughts about Varys now, in order to thwart my evil muse (shhh! don’t tell it anything!) Daenerys will never ‘break the wheel’ – she’s likethe Readers’ Digest Prize Draw – too good to be true. Chase that and you’ll chase it forever. Varys, however.. I think he’s got definite anarchist tendencies. If anyone is a candidate for breaking the wheel, and probably melting that bloody chair… it will be him. And if anyone will think it’s slightly weird that three people as hard and experienced as Tormund, Brienne and Clegane can go wandering off into the north with the Night King dead, never to be seen again. Well, that person is Tyrion. This will work. I am sure of it. Well, I’ll leave Westeros in a happy place. The next tyrant is not my concern.
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Thank you again! So glad you enjoyed this chapter. And that ending seemed particularly poignant, but fitting, I think. To reach that pinnacle and realise how much there is to lose now… although of course, Brienne is feeling rather emotional at that point. More so than usual. She’ll get used to it… or so my Tormund muse assures me. I can’t help wondering how it will affect either of the lads when they end up inthe middle. Whatever they get up to in the ensuing chapters, they’re going to have to be quiet as little mice. And take things very slowly… unless they pitch their tent about a quarter of a mile away from everyone else, but that’s really obvious too. *giggles*
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Thank you Bronx! I have to say, she really took me by surprise here. You’ll have noticed I usually manage to avoid feelings of possession and such from surfacing in characters when I’m writing threesomes. But she really was warning Clegane off! Thankfully, Tormund understands that part of her more than she does. *g*
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I think inspiration is dreaming whilst awake. There’s no other explanation for the way the ideas leap between nuances of meaning and plot the way they do. It also explains the way that things can seem utterly silly once that inspiration leaves. That being the case, I often feel like if I can hold onto the atmosphere and emotion of a thing, rather than the intricacies of it, then it stays for much longer. To keep it is to perfect the art of dreaming the same thing over and over again. And, since I write fanfiction, I often find once the original inspiration has struck and you’ve begun writing, you need more than inspiration then. You need to a strike a balance between many closely related things. Inspiration is one, motivation, dedication, impetus, fanaticism and total immersion in the source material are the others. Get it right, and the story will flow like water. And if you’re posting, feedback (and lack of it) is a blessing and a curse. Feedback will buoy you up, but it can also interfere with your ideas. Lack of feedback can make you give up completely, unless the muse is particularly insistent.
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Ok… next chapter is currently being written. They get one more lazy lie in before they have to pack up and move out. What will they do with it...?
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Lazy lie in with a NO dress code?
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Well, I was thinking of some m/m goodness to start, with a hint of lots more to come, then some more DP when Brienne wakes up with a different position, and from the guy’s pov, and then finish it off with a round of bathing and breakfast, followed by a spirited declaration of war.
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Well, starting out any war on a full stomach is a good idea.
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Well, I have finished the chapter, and it’s still off. I’ve read the entire work, and it’s still off. I’ve tinkered with some things about it, and it’s still off.
There’s nothing else for it.
I have to throw it all away and go back to the drawing board *sighs*
So disappointed in myself right now, because there’s so many things coming up that are partly written, and things coming up that I can’t wait to write. I don’t know why this is being difficult at all.
I just can’t figure it out.
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Well… I’ve been taking a break watching Lucifer, because I went out and got the DVD today. I love Tom Ellis. But… I couldn’t help myself. To be honest, I think it still sounds like them.
[An unusually large and fearfully well-armed woman is decorating a Christmas tree, when she is disturbed by an unusually large man]
ROGER: [A man who is not a Knight] “A fucking Christmas tree. Does it have to sparkle like that?”
BELLA: [A woman who is also not a Knight] “Yes, of course it does! Oh wait, it should be twinkling too.”
BELLA: [Messes with the plug socket. Lights begin twinkling.] “There.. isn't it pretty?”
ROGER: [pulls a face]
BELLA: “Here, hang some knights on it.”
ROGER: [rather more cheerfully] “Oh, well. All right then.”
[ENTER a VIKING, also of unusually large size]
VIKING: “What the fuck is that?”
BELLA: “It's a Christmas tree. It's to do with Christ being born.”
VIKING: “You southern twats are always inventing Gods. I think you long to be taken in hand, all of you.”
ROGER: “Fuck off!”
VIKING: [touches one of the tree branches] “Oh yeah? What's this then?”
BELLA: [smiles with delight] “Artificial snow.”
VIKING: [looks utterly aghast] “Artificial snow? Right. That's it. I give in.”
ROGER: “What?”
VIKING: [cracks knuckles and pats knee] “Come here. I'm going to give both of you exactly what you want... you can say you're getting it for Christmas.”
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Brilliant!
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Sounds like someone’s going to be getting “a damn good rogering”.
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I see your point… still it leaves some of us in a tricky position then. Would the code enable for spoiler tags to automatically be applied to images, and would that do the job? Or would our browser (and by extension hard drive & ISP) still clock as if the image had been accessed even if we hadn’t chosen to see it? Sorry if I’m being a bit dense. I’m not sure if that would be a solution or not… it’s just the first thing that sprang to mind. ETA: I’m assuming if that would work, that an exception could be made for the banner ads and profile pics and stuff.
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That’s kind of the point JayDee is making. In our respective countries, rules are all different. In my own country, the UK, it’s illegal to view anything that might be considered to cause a danger to life, and so that could include quite a wide range of things, being as it has no concrete definition. Basically, here, you’re on thin ice really with anything concerning BDSM. They really don’t like it. AFAIK they (the government) are asking ISPs to keep records on those who are accessing that kind of material. In a link I posted a while ago, they’re also including sound files in that, so audiobooks and stuff might well fall foul of our law if it describes those kinds of things. From what I’ve seen, when they want to take someone up to make an example, they won’t care if you had a choice over seeing the image or not, which is why I’m in complete agreement with this idea.
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Well, I am really struggling with this chapter. It’s mostly written, but… I had a specific format in mind, and I’ve kept to it, but it feels off, like I’ve inadvertently ruined the pacing. That’s odd, because I wanted to write this format to have a clear break between the prior slow burn/consummation vs the lead in to the war, which would require a change in pacing.
*scratches head*
As I check the word count, it seems like if I finish off the chapter as I planned, I might still have some room to play with it. I wonder if there’s some little aspect I can add that will make it work better. Hmm… *thinks*
Some of this chapter is written from the limited pov of the Lord of Light, and I’m hesitant to use that pov to do anything to regulate pacing, mood or atmostphere. It seems too transparent and heavy handed to do that. Probably because if I do that, it’d lead to a feeling of discontent in the reader. I’m not giving much away. If I use the pov like that, you’d expect to see more of the pov character’s motivations. Yet the other pov characters (the three of them) are dreaming, so I can’t use them. Beric is awake, but he’s being haunted. He’s also not a pov character.
I suppose I’ll feed the dogs while I think. This is a quandary. If I can’t fix it, I’m going to have to chuck it and think of something else altogether. But this felt right when I started it. Grrr!
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btw, typo, the 57k applies to chapters 1-21, and chapter 22 makes it just under 62k.
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I’ve written about 130k words on mine. I’m sure about 60k of that is probably utter filth. 30k is leading into the filth. 10k is fighting, 10k eating, 10k bathing, which leaves 10k of writing with the chance for literary merit. I am a bad writer.
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My goal for “the repair guy” was to be a short 40k or so….. it’ll likely to be 80k by the end. Dale’s Game, which was supposed to be a short holiday oneshot… just under 172k which doesn’t include the real holiday oneshot or its sequel, or the halloween fic it inspired.
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Since I’m in the same boat as you, JayDee, I completely agree. *sighs* I just know I’m on a list somewhere. But then, we probably all are.
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pippychick replied to pippychick's topic in Promote a Story!
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Hi Anon I write third person but usually pick a particular character and go with their pov for the length of a chapter or a scene. I wrote the scene from the woman’s perspective in the middle (i.e. she felt). But to be honest they enjoyed it – a lot – so they’re definitely going to be doing it again… and again... so if you have a male perspective on this (or any advice at all!), I’d be eternally grateful, since I write the boys’ pov much more often than I write hers. While I didn’t originally envisage a lot of homoerotic content in this fic, it’s looking ever more likely that one of the guys will be in the middle at some point too. That’s a whole other set of things to think about, I’m sure. At least they can’t do this in a tent on the road. There’s no way whatsoever that Brienne can stay quiet. No way. And I’m definitely not thinking it would be kind of funny to try it… *smirks* even if I know the other two characters are thinking exactly the same thing. She’d probably kill them. Literally. With her sword.
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Currently wrestling with Tormund. He’s winning. Good job it’s not literally.
For a character who seems pretty simple on the surface, even in his own thoughts, this one is ridiculously deep. In fact, out of the three, he’s probably got a whole lot more going on than the other two once you dig down a bit.
I think it’s time for that last resort in getting right into a character: the fictional interview.
I kind of hate writing these, but in the absence of anyone to discuss it with, it’s the next best thing.
At least when this is done, I can drag them off to war. That should make for an interesting journey. All that sharing a tent business, the imperative need to stay absolutely silent no matter what… that will be fun for someone, I’m sure. Ok, that’s my reward! If I can just get over this little hurdle now…
Come on, Tormund, you obstinate sod!
*sighs*
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Silent in a tent…. oh, the fun you can have with that!
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I know, right? *rubs hands together* I know how that all works. I don’t need to talk about it at all.
But first… gah… I have lots of normal character stuff to know about Tormund. Lots of wondering to do. somewhere, I’m certain he’s still a bit annoyed at how everything’s gone. I mean, he had a fairly simple gig before. Climb the wall, steal things, do what you want. Have fun! Now he’s got all this responsibility, and he’s part of this other world that he never wanted to join, where everything’s a bloody great complicated mess and everyone is all fucked up. I’m certain that somewhere, deep down, he’s still pissed off at Snow for kind of being the catalyst for all of that.
I can’t talk out loud. I’m getting: “Please, stfu about Game of Thrones.” looks. :/
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I may be getting somewhere, but the three of them are coming to conclusions that might be too quick. Not sure how to stop them doing that. :/ *thinks*
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pippychick replied to pippychick's topic in Promote a Story!
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Well, I think I’ve nearly done it. Almost seven thousand words. It needs finishing off so that it’ll lead into the next chapter, and it needs several read throughs, but… I’m actually kind of happy with it in the main, I think. And despite the word count, there’s no way I can split this up. I’ve been kind of cruel with cliffhangers, sure, but I think splitting this would rightly get me some bad karma, lol.
Either this is the hottest thing I’ve written for a good, long while, or… *gulps* I’m completely mistaken, and I’ll get a healthy dose of reality when I post it. Please, please, please, let it be the first one.
Okay, I guess I’ll begin those read throughs now. *takes a deep breath*
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Right, well, lets see how that goes down. If at all.
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So, this morning it seems we pay the television license fee so that the BBC can invite dickheads on to Breakfast to justify shooting lions and elephants. No! F**k off!
Not the best start to the day. Gits.
*goes back to writing porn or whatever the hell this is*
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Omg what! Ugh i hate trophy hunting!
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I just don’t get trophy hunting. I mean, fair play if it’s you vs a lion barehanded and you win you earned it. But sitting half a mile away from with a rifle, meh fuck ya.
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The species they bring down the most is their own. Trophy hunters should be offered a choice between euthanasia or… well, actually just euthanasia.
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Occurs to me as I’m writing this now that while the boys swear in their thoughts all the time, Brienne doesn’t even use the word ‘cock’ in her own mind. This is an extra challenge that I should probably have foreseen when I said in my AN: “Of course I’ll be continuing in Brienne’s pov!” Bloodyhell… *sighs*
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I think he’s going to go with a good amount of lubrication at the back and the front, worked in nice and deep for a while. And all over the two of them before they start. Never too much for this. Um… I seem to have made Clegane quite… well, kind of well proportioned too. *coughs, and gives Brienne an apologetic look* She’ll be all right. I do have some power here. Although I have to admit I should probably have seen this coming right at the beginning. I didn’t, because I was too busy trying to solve the will they/won’t they slash issue that came up. By the time I’d done that, Tormund had already got it as a little ambition. And by ‘little ambition’ I do of course mean life goal. They’re all going to die. He wants this first, like the last meal of the condemned or something. I’ll make him pay later. When they’re all in Tarth and he’s having to wander around half naked, and he can’t sleep at night because it’s too hot. She can laugh at him then. I really think he’ll hate it. The chances of these three being able to settle anywhere except the north are zero.
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Oh, the mortuary attendant belongs to CloverReef. Honestly, I’d steal him in a heartbeat, but he’s a zombie now, and I’m alive. It’d never work.
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Well, I went back, and it seems I wasn’t that far off the end, after all. And you were right, I ducked out at the worst bit, just as it was about to be over, lol. So all in all, good. I can’t decide whether the actual adults in this world (I know this is Minor2, and really your characters are old enough for me to think of them as young adults, but for the sake of argument, I’m on about the old people) are just as fucked up and believe all this stuff, or if they’re kind of sinister. I’m going with sinister. Oh, and I still think that campsite had a lot to do with it. Take one mentally unstable young man, add a dash of terror (because that kind of place does bring terror, whether you’d be up for admitting to it or not), and this could easily be the result. No one likes to hang around dead people except for slightly creepy mortuary attendants…
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lol… well, you know I can handle it if it’s mild. I did get as far as the necrophilia. I’d say without the scat, I’d probably have been able to give a pretty positive review of that. The death scenes were nicely violent. He’s got some kind of religious freakery going on, hasn’t he? Can’t help feeling that first girl was lucky she didn’t go with. Or maybe the campsite had an effect on him? Hard to know, probably because I didn’t make it to the end. Yeah… it just got to the point that I couldn’t see through it, if you know what I mean?
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Ahhh… unfortunately not… and I think you’d be taking your life into your hands if you turned up in their universe and interrupted them right now, lol. The only reason I get away with it is because they have no idea whatsoever that I’m there… *g*
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*nods* Yes, I’m envisaging it that way around. Mostly because that way Clegane gets to have those favourite things of his well within reach. He’d like it best there. Edge of the bed might be best, so Tormund can have a foot on the floor, perhaps. It gives him more control if he’s going to be directing a lot of this. I haven’t been specific, but Clegane hasn’t done this before to my mind, so hopefully we can get to see him experiencing feeling Tormund moving alongside him, through Brienne’s eyes. As for the movement, I think they’d really have to alternate at first anyway, just to ease her in or it’d be a bad experience for her. So it’ll be quite slow to start. Tormund’s got some lengthy kind of prep planned, but even with that, it’s going to be a lot for her to take. There’s a lot of pressure involved on entry, that’s the danger point, making sure she stays nice and relaxed for the beginning, because that’s where it can really hurt if you’re not careful. After that, it should become a lot easier. Luckily, I think she’s at ease enough with them both now, and Tormund is quite good at getting her to accept things. Plus he seems to undersand pacing quite well. He’ll also make sure she’s communicating at all times. Well, until she gets to the point of being completely non-verbal, lol. I don’t think she’s got any idea at all how much she’s going to like this. They keep having surprises lined up for her, don’t they? Bronx, this is so helpful, everything you’ve said – thank you!
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Well, I’m about ready to start. I don’t think I’ve written this before… it hardly matters even if I have, since I’m doing it with vastly different characters. If I had, it would have involved Nimbrethil, and she was dominant, but she definitely wasn’t a Brienne. Not at all. So... I’ve done the usual oodles of research and stuff, so there’s a lot going through my mind as I attempt this, but if anyone has any tips at all on writing a good double penetration scene, here would be a good place to post them. The biggest challenge, despite the mechanics, the preparation, etc is keeping these three in character throughout. I don’t see the opportunity for all that much dialogue, which is a bit of a bind. I mean, they’ll speak, obviously, but they’re clearly not going to be talking about anything or asking each other the time of day. Dialogue is usually the easiest way to establish character, which pretty much just leaves action, which is already a really busy area, description wise. Still, it should be quite easy to get Clegane in character there, since Brienne will be looking at him through most of it. Rather more difficult for Tormund. But then I suppose he could have more dialogue, as the instigator of this. You’d think Brienne would be easy, as the pov character, but I don’t think that’s going to be the case. This is going to be overwhelming for her, and having her in character in her thoughts isn’t enough anyway. She needs to display it outwardly. Mind you, if ever there was a character likely to ask the time of day under these particular circumstances, it’d probably be her. Actually, I can hear her doing it… But, yes… I’d be really grateful for any suggestions, hints, tips, etc. you guys have.