Ichasennin Posted April 14, 2016 Report Posted April 14, 2016 (edited) The story has been posted here Greetings everyone, I'm going to undertake a self-imposed challenge that I'd like to extend to everyone It will be a FSN/The Gamer crossover, with a 10Y old Shirou waking up the day after Kiritsugu's death having the Mystic Eyes of Game Perception. He begins to develop his skill accordingly, in particular his Charisma, because at high level it makes him more convincing, thus allowing him to solve situations peacefully. However, it comes with the side effect of making him more and more attractive to the point that even adult women that would not otherwise make a move on a kid end up wanting to have sex with him. Shirou, being his usual helpful self and trying to level up as much as possible, takes many Quests around the neighborhood with the result that in time he basically had sex with every woman in a two miles radius (though they are not aware of each other since they all keep it a secret). The story will have plot, action and of course smut. It will be Femdom initially, as Shirou is relatively young and shy, but it will start changing as he become older. Note: as for this challenge request every female character from canon will be at least 5 years older that Shirou. What I'd like to ask of this community is: 1 - To propose older females outside of FSN canon to use as characters for the sidequest/Shirou's mistresses. Characters from other series are fine too, provided that I'll use them out of context. Kindly provide pictures if available. 2 - An help developing the Game System, that while similar to The Gamer's will be substantially different. 3 - The Grail War will involve more Masters and Servants, so I'd like inputs on who involve. Heroic Spirits cannot be characters from other series either, unless they too are versions of actual legendary figures and not in conflict with canon FSN versions. As per this post title, I claim Fate: Gamer Night - Shota Edition for myself. Anyone feeling like trying/helping out? Down here is what I thought so far about Shirou's starting Stats and abilities Stats & Skills Chapter 1 [HP] Health Points. How much life you've left in you. You die if it reaches 0. [MP] Mana Points. How much Mana you have at your disposal. If Magic is performed with 0 MP, HP are used instead. If both MP and HP are 0 MC are used instead. [MC] Magic Circuits. The numbers of Circuits you have. This value also represent how much Mana you can use in a sigle action. Spells that require more MP that this value cannot be performed even with sufficent MP. [sT] Stamina Point. Your physical energy. This value represent how much you can go without resting. All actions require at least 1 ST to be performed, be they physical or mental. It reaches 0 you either fall asleep or use your HP instead. ST drops naturally by 1 every waking hour. The base value is 10x [AGE]+ 10x [sTR] [sTR] STRENGTH. Your physical prowess. This value represents how strong you are as well as your attack power. Starting value is 1x [AGE] [DEX] DEXTERITY. This value represents your agility and speed. Starting value is 1x [AGE] [iNT] INTELLIGENCE. This value represents your knowledge and logic ability. Starting value is 1x [AGE] [WIS] WISDOM. This value represents your awareness, both of yourself and the world around you. Starting value is 1x [AGE] [CHR] Charisma. This value represents your willpower and your presence. Starting value is 1x [AGE] Stats EMIYA SHIROU - [AGE: 10] [HP: 100 - MP: 35 - MC: 27 - ST: 200] [sTR: 10] [base: 10] [DEX: 11] [base: 10] [iNT: 10] [base: 10] [WIS: 25] [base: 10] + [broken: 15] [CHR: 22] [base: 10] + [Polite: 2] + [Hero Complex: 10] Skills and abilities [MYSTIC EYES OF GAME PERCEPTION] Allows to experience life as a game. [MEoGP/GAMER BODY]: Experiencing the world as a Game has changed you deeply. You now have the body of a game character. Sleeping in a bed restores 100% HP, MP and ST. Sleeping on the ground restores 80% and sleeping in the cold restores 25%. [MAGECRAFT/STRUCTURAL ANALISYS - LV 75: 80%]: The ability to understand the structure of inanimate objects in exchange of Mana. You are extremely good at this and you can Grasp most things easily. 2MP/object [MAGECRAFT/PROJECTION - LV 3: 70%]: Allows to materialize objects from Mana. You are not good at this yet. 10MP/object [MAGECRAFT/REINFORCEMENT - LV 2: 62%]: Allows to strengthen an aspect of an object a little. You are not good at this yet. 15MP/aspect [MAGECRAFT/NERVE CIRCUIT - LV 55: 75%] The ability to create a makeshift Circuit out of your nerves. At this level you can create a temporary Circuit out of combat with a 100% chance of success in exchange of 1 HP and 10 ST, a 55% chance of making a Circuit during combat in exchange of 5 HP and 10 ST. In addition, failure to perform costs a permanent -1 INT. [CRAFTING/COOKING - LV 15] The ability to prepare meals. Your ability is higher than the average adult. +2% reputation gain during meals. At this level a meal restores 15 [sT]. [CRAFTING/ELETRONICS - LV 5] The ability to fiddle with eletronic devices. Your ability is impressive for someone of your age. At this level you can understand how to fix simple things. Your ability to do so yoruself depend on the required [DEX] and/or [sTR]. [CRAFTING/MECHANICS - LV 5] The ability to fiddle with mechanical devices. Your ability is pretty impressive for someone of your age. At this level you can understand how to fix simple things. Your ability to do so yoruself depend on the required [DEX] and/or [sTR]. [ELEMENT/SWORD]: You are naturally in tune with all things bladed. + 500% gains/success to all blade-related activities. [ORIGIN/SWORD]: You are naturally in tune with all things bladed. + 500% gains/success to all blade related-activities. [u??IM?T?D ????E W??KS - LV1: 0%]: ????????????????? ERROR: [???] not sufficient. [MENTAL/BROKEN]: You suffer from a deep trauma. The way you think is not the same as ordinary people. This experience grants you a +15 [WIS] but your common sense is askew because of it resulting in a permanent -40% to all further [WIS] gains. [MENTAL/HERO COMPLEX] You value other people lives more than your own. You literally cannot kill to save your life. - 100% all [CRITICAL HITS] to save yourself + 100% to all [CRITICAL HITS] when protecting someone else. This unrelenting mentality grants a +10 [CHR] [MENTAL/PAIN THRESHOLD - LV: MAX]: You have been making Magic Circuits out of your nerves for years which is as painful as putting an inserting a burning iron rod into your spine. This insane practice has however granted you an equally insane resistance to pain. No matter how much your body is wounded you suffer no penalties. LV MAX unlocked [DIE HARD] [MENTAL/FORGOTTEN CIRCUITS] You have never used your native Circuits and as a result they have begun to atrophy. You cannot perform Magecraft with them until they have recovered. [PHYSICAL/DIE HARD] You won't die even if you are killed. Allows for continued action even when HP has dropped to 0 as long as you have either ST or MP left. ST and MP drop by 1 each minute even if no action is taken when HP is 0. Titles [MAGUS] Enable the use of Magecraft. [sWORD INCARNATION] Because of your aligned Origin and Element you are yourself a living sword. A further +1000% gains/success to all blade related activities is granted but - 90% gain/success to all non-blade related Magecrafts is applied. Weapons' and armors' structure are permanently memorized with just a glance even without Structural Analisys. Mana cost for all Magecrafts is 1MP for blade and 4MP for all shields and armors regardless of item or spell level. All activities involving blades cost only 1ST. [HERO IN TRAINING] You chose the path of a hero, but you still don't know what it means. You go out of your way to help people and you never turn down a request for help. [TWICE ORPHAN] You lost your parents, twice. Sucks to be you. Most people pity you. +10% to all [REPUTATION] gain with characters with [GOOD] alignment for every altruistic action you perform. + 50% [REPUTATION] gains with other orphans regardless of relationship and alignment. [POLITE] You are well mannered and respectful, especially for a kid. +10% [REPUTATION] gains with all [LAWFUL] and [NEUTRAL] aligned people as well as for every person of your age and above. [WISE BEYOND YOUR YEARS] Because your [WIS] is higher than your [AGE] you appear more mature than your peers. +20% all REPUTATION gains. Edited April 20, 2016 by Ichasennin Quote
warellis Posted April 16, 2016 Report Posted April 16, 2016 (edited) "Outside of FSN canon", does that mean we can propose females from other Fate titles like Fate/Extra or Fate/Grand Order, or even Apocryoha for example? Or do you mean entirely out of the Fate series in general? Also is it like we propose so-and-so for the characters and you write? Edited April 16, 2016 by warellis Quote
Guest tm_fan Posted April 16, 2016 Report Posted April 16, 2016 I'm posting partly because of what you put under the Hero Complex: "You literally cannot kill to save your life." Now, if you intended that to literally mean that Shirou can't bring himself to kill if it's only to save his own life, that's okay, but if you meant he can't bring himself to kill at all, that's not. He's perfectly willing to kill people, even people he knows and has some attachment to, if it saves people. In Fate, when Shinji refused to take down Blood Fort Andromeda, Shirou was going to kill him, and in UBW, when Caster is holding Taiga hostage, he's thinking that he'll kill Rin if she does anything that could put Taiga in danger. But enough about that, for older females, just within Type Moon, there are an abundance, so this will just be those who could be reasonably expected to be in Japan outside of coming for the Grail War. In Fuyuki, aside from all the girls at the school in canon, there's also Taiga and Otoko Hotaruzuka, who is the daughter of the owner of the bar Shirou works at in canon. Both the Aozaki sisters could be said to be in Japan. Given it's an alternate timeline, the events of Kara no Kyoukai wouldn't happen, but Shiki Ryougi, Azaka Kokutou, and Fujino Asagami are all available (Shiki would be about 25 at the time of the Fifth Grail War, the other two a few years younger). Prototype includes Ayaka and Manaka Sajyou and Misaya Reiroukan. And lastly, Reika Rikudou, Assassin of Black's Master from Apocrypha, and Kiara Sessyouin, Anderson's Master from CCC. For the rest, how many more Masters and Servants would you plan on using, and would you intend this as a serious Grail War, or would the objective be for them all to be female for smut reasons? For the game aspects, one aspect you might go for is achievements and experience from sex. Quote
Ichasennin Posted April 16, 2016 Author Report Posted April 16, 2016 (edited) "Outside of FSN canon", does that mean we can propose females from other Fate titles like Fate/Extra or Fate/Grand Order, or even Apocryoha for example? Or do you mean entirely out of the Fate series in general? Also is it like we propose so-and-so for the characters and you write? Feel free to propose whichever character you like. However, if you want a woman from a sci-fi anime, I'll use her out of context. If you ask for a woman from within the nasuverse continuity I'll try to use her in context I'm posting partly because of what you put under the Hero Complex: "You literally cannot kill to save your life." Now, if you intended that to literally mean that Shirou can't bring himself to kill if it's only to save his own life, that's okay, but if you meant he can't bring himself to kill at all, that's not. He's perfectly willing to kill people, even people he knows and has some attachment to, if it saves people. In Fate, when Shinji refused to take down Blood Fort Andromeda, Shirou was going to kill him, and in UBW, when Caster is holding Taiga hostage, he's thinking that he'll kill Rin if she does anything that could put Taiga in danger. But enough about that, for older females, just within Type Moon, there are an abundance, so this will just be those who could be reasonably expected to be in Japan outside of coming for the Grail War. In Fuyuki, aside from all the girls at the school in canon, there's also Taiga and Otoko Hotaruzuka, who is the daughter of the owner of the bar Shirou works at in canon. Both the Aozaki sisters could be said to be in Japan. Given it's an alternate timeline, the events of Kara no Kyoukai wouldn't happen, but Shiki Ryougi, Azaka Kokutou, and Fujino Asagami are all available (Shiki would be about 25 at the time of the Fifth Grail War, the other two a few years younger). Prototype includes Ayaka and Manaka Sajyou and Misaya Reiroukan. And lastly, Reika Rikudou, Assassin of Black's Master from Apocrypha, and Kiara Sessyouin, Anderson's Master from CCC. For the rest, how many more Masters and Servants would you plan on using, and would you intend this as a serious Grail War, or would the objective be for them all to be female for smut reasons? For the game aspects, one aspect you might go for is achievements and experience from sex. Well, the purpose for this story is be 50% smut so female characters are likely intended for that objective. I plan to have several Masters and Servant (no more than 15 teams) wage war for the Grail. Also the Grail War would be more of a contest in which the participant must gather "shards" by going into Illusion Barriers (The Gamer style). They can fight against each other for possession of these shards, but it's not necessary. They might even team up to take down a Dungeon Boss. However, ultimately, only he who gathers all shards can make a wish to the Grail. As far as the "Hero complex" title goes, you are correct. Shirou cannot kill to save his life, but he can kill to save someone else. He can even kill for other reasons, but never, ever for his own survival. Also, about the sex, that's pretty much how it's going to go. At first Shirou will raise is CHR stat, which will have the unintended effect of making him attractive to the opposite gender. Starting with Taiga, who will take advantage of him in sleep at first, moving onto the neighborhood ladies until he's basically a sex-god by age 13. Edited April 16, 2016 by Ichasennin Quote
warellis Posted April 16, 2016 Report Posted April 16, 2016 (edited) Heh maybe Shirou's Servant here is Nero Bride from FGO? Since she hasn't been summoned before, or at least her FGO backstory claims, she'll put all her love on her Master: Hm another female, from both FGO & Fate/Zero, might be Irisviel von Einzbern. She looks really good in that Halloween Princess CE outfit and it makes me wonder if here, she might be more than just an incredible homunculus... We do know that succubi do exist in the Nasuverse... Who knows what fun things a succubus Iri could do with shota Shirou here! Kiara Sessyouin, Anderson's Master from CCC. Oh yes, Kiara Sessyouin would be great! She is so very lewd She is the head of a sect of Buddhism that believes people will gain enlightenment through wild orgies of sex. Also her back story is kind of similar to EMIYA's, like being betrayed by people around her and wanting to save others. She also likes to interpret situations in a lewd manner. She could easily be someone who has a follower kidnap Shirou and take him to her for some spiritual counselling. Nun version: Demon version: Both shown: Edited April 16, 2016 by warellis Quote
Ichasennin Posted April 16, 2016 Author Report Posted April 16, 2016 Oh, yes. I can confirm that Kiara was going to be involved, although possibly as a Servant. Speaking of Servant, there are going to be fifteen classes this time around and I need both names for them and the Heroic Spirits summoned into them. Please note that this story won't have any Counter Guardian Emiya, so somebody else has to fill the role of Rin's Servant. Quote
warellis Posted April 16, 2016 Report Posted April 16, 2016 Are all the Servants, and all the Masters with the exception of Shirou, female here? Quote
Ichasennin Posted April 16, 2016 Author Report Posted April 16, 2016 Not necessarily. Somebody HAS to die brutally. I'd rather it was a dude who bit it. Quote
warellis Posted April 16, 2016 Report Posted April 16, 2016 For the classes pass the standard 7 we see, I imagine Ruler & Shielder may also be possible classes so that brings it up to 8 or 9. I'm trying to think of other classes. Quote
VotedforKodos Posted April 17, 2016 Report Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) Typically, from what I've seen, when talking about additional classes beyond the base 7, yeah, people default to Shielder and Ruler. Next would be Avenger, if you wanted to go that route. Other things that have appeared in canon works were Arcueid's original class in Extra being Temptress, Ryougi Shiki showing up in Extra as Monster, the final boss being Saver, and I believe in Prototype there was a Beast class. Billy the Kid's profile from Grand Order references a Gunner class that has never shown up in canon materials, and the next most common idea I've heard of would be a martial artist Servant, possibly something like Striker? Actually, how loose are you playing the rules of Servants with this? For the Fuyuki Grail, technically there are restrictions that make it so gods and eastern heroes can't be summoned. Is there any intent to follow those rules, or are you treating it more like Grand Order and just working with whatever you feel like having in? After the Servants, there would be the question of Masters. There's the obvious ones, Shirou, Rin, Sakura, and Illya, which leaves another 11. Less, if you go the route FSN did and have the Caster also be a Master. Bazett, if you keep her and don't have her get shanked by Kirei, makes 10. I might also suggest Ayaka, Manaka, Luvia, Fiore, Misaya, and/or Gray. Obviously any other magus or person unscrupulous enough to have their Servant feed on people would also work. As for male Masters to die brutally, there's always Shinji, Zouken, and Medea's original Master around, plus anyone else from other sources. The Grail shard concept is interesting. Did you plan to have a set number of shards to gather? And are there actual restrictions about how they transfer, like that it has to be a result of a fight? If not, that opens up doors for a lot of different situations. Giving away shards, ransoming people for them, wagering them, using them for negotiations or collateral...the possibilities are endless. Edited April 17, 2016 by VotedforKodos Quote
Guest Guest Posted April 17, 2016 Report Posted April 17, 2016 Some suggestions for outside characters to use: Chifuyu Orimura, Saeko Busujima, Rei Miyamoto, Saya Takagi, Shizuka Marikawa, Akame, Kurome, Dorothea, Seryu Ubiquitous, Asia Argento, Xenovia Quarta, Irina Shidou, Ravel Phenex, Xuelan, Suzunoki Rin and any Symphogear girls. Chifuyu and Saeko could easily be Taiga's friends from her kendo days. Saya's father could be connected to Taiga's grandfather and know each other that way. Rei could have similar connections as Saeko, but also her parents are cops, and given Shirou's justice fixation, he could meet them. Actually, same thing with Seryu, her dad was a supporter of justice and she also has a justice fixation like Shirou. Shizuka is a nurse, so Shirou could meet her at any time if he got hurt. Rin is just because I started watching Bakuon and like her, but Shirou does fix up motorcycles for Taiga's grandfather, so he could for her, too. Asia, Xenovia, and Irina could all be sent in by the Church as support for managing the Grail War. Akame and Kurome I imagined as being assassins hired by one of the Masters to help win the War, but they could be anything else. Dorothea as a Dead Apostle who got involved looking for a way to have no-strings attached immortality. Ravel could be a magus who transferred in for the War, or just a regular rich ojou-sama type girl. Xuelan as her bodyguard. Carol from Symphogear could easily be in the War, with her alchemy, summoned monsters, and dolls, and any of the rest could be put in as idols. If Shirou is going to be able to level up from sex, he should get even more bonuses from having sex with idols, right? Quote
warellis Posted April 17, 2016 Report Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) Typically, from what I've seen, when talking about additional classes beyond the base 7, yeah, people default to Shielder and Ruler. Next would be Avenger, if you wanted to go that route. Other things that have appeared in canon works were Arcueid's original class in Extra being Temptress, Ryougi Shiki showing up in Extra as Monster, the final boss being Saver, and I believe in Prototype there was a Beast class. Billy the Kid's profile from Grand Order references a Gunner class that has never shown up in canon materials, and the next most common idea I've heard of would be a martial artist Servant, possibly something like Striker? Actually, how loose are you playing the rules of Servants with this? For the Fuyuki Grail, technically there are restrictions that make it so gods and eastern heroes can't be summoned. Is there any intent to follow those rules, or are you treating it more like Grand Order and just working with whatever you feel like having in? IIRC wasn't there something from Nasu for the Fuyuki Grail War, that it should've switched classes for every War? Or maybe it was some sort of early concept thing. As for Arcueid and the Temptress class, how did that work? Also I just realized something: might we get to see Fem-Gil as a Servant here? Edited April 17, 2016 by warellis Quote
WillowDarkling Posted April 17, 2016 Report Posted April 17, 2016 Ichasennin, I'm going to have to ask you to clarify, is this a request or challenge for someone else to write a story based on your premise, or are you writing a story, with input from other people? If the latter is the case, this is not the place to do that, so I'll need to move this thread for you. Willow Darkling, Forum Moderator. Quote
warellis Posted April 17, 2016 Report Posted April 17, 2016 What thread would you move it too if it was him writing a story with input? Quote
VotedforKodos Posted April 17, 2016 Report Posted April 17, 2016 I think I vaguely remember some mention in the VN that the classes getting changed up from war to war was a thing that would happen, and that the Fifth War having the same classes as the Fourth was a coincidence? But there have been enough retcons on various subjects that I don't think it matters. I think the last rule I remember hearing about the classes in the Fuyuki Grail War was that the three Knight classes had to be summoned, and the other four were up in the air. As for Arcueid...well, it was Extra, so it was weird on its own, and her showing up was basically just fanservice, but I think it just came down to her Master in Extra being really, really incompetent. So incompetent, in fact, that he couldn't understand what she was supposed to be, made her a Berserker and put her under a Mad Enhancement that had negative effects equal to A-rank with benefits equal to C-rank. Something came out that her original class was supposed to be "Funny Vamp" in the original Japanese, but got localized in English as Temptress. Quote
warellis Posted April 17, 2016 Report Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) How the heck does Funny Vamp get localized to "Temptress?" But the class name does sound intriguing. I could imagine Semiramis being a great temptress. Even Arcueid herself assuming she learned how to sexually tempt people somewhere, or was pretty sexually lustful here for whatever reason. She is beautiful in both her short-haired self & long-haired self. Just realized something: Ichasennin mentioned Kiara as a possible Servant. Maybe here, the Angra Mainyu/Avenger equivalent is Kiara instead of Avenger/whatever his actual name is from the OTL 3rd Grail War? Kiara possibly summoned in her Demon form? But I also enjoy the idea of Kiara being one of the Masters here. Well whatever the case with Kiara I hope we get to see her Demon form. Edited April 17, 2016 by warellis Quote
Ichasennin Posted April 17, 2016 Author Report Posted April 17, 2016 Ichasennin, I'm going to have to ask you to clarify, is this a request or challenge for someone else to write a story based on your premise, or are you writing a story, with input from other people? If the latter is the case, this is not the place to do that, so I'll need to move this thread for you. Willow Darkling, Forum Moderator. Yeah, considering how the topic went, I suppose that would be better. Thank you. Quote
WillowDarkling Posted April 17, 2016 Report Posted April 17, 2016 Ichasennin, are you planning on writing a story based on this and post in the Archives? If so, I need to know which subcategory (Anime>Het, yaoi, yuri, etc...?) it will be posted in, so I can move this thread to the appropriate forum. Willow Darkling, Forum Moderator. Quote
Ichasennin Posted April 17, 2016 Author Report Posted April 17, 2016 Ichasennin, are you planning on writing a story based on this and post in the Archives? If so, I need to know which subcategory (Anime>Het, yaoi, yuri, etc...?) it will be posted in, so I can move this thread to the appropriate forum. Willow Darkling, Forum Moderator. Anime>Fate Stay Night-> Het Thanks again. I'll be posting the introductory chapter in a couple of days. Quote
WillowDarkling Posted April 17, 2016 Report Posted April 17, 2016 Alright, awesome. Then I'll move this to the Fan Fiction, Anime>Het subforum, (we don't have a special Fate Stay Night subforum), I don't think we have a special category for , and then you can use this thread as your Review Reply thread as well. I'll leave a link here to the new location, so people can find it more easily. But you guys are welcome to discuss this freely now that I've moved the thread. Happy writing. Willow Darkling, Forum Moderator. Quote
warellis Posted April 18, 2016 Report Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) In addition to the various outsider females the guest mentioned one possible outsider female I think may be fun is Morrigan Aensland (image) (and her sister Lilith (image) considering Lilith can sort of stay in side Morrigan until she needs to come out). Seeing her in any hetero lemons is very rare and we do know succubi do exist in the Nasuverse. This provides a little more info on Morrigan and Lilith: Morrigan, Lilith Morrigan Aensland: Morrigan's Human Form: Lilith Aensland: Edited April 29, 2016 by warellis Quote
Ichasennin Posted April 18, 2016 Author Report Posted April 18, 2016 Japanese MILF character needed as Shirou's neighbor. Possibly a married woman with a son of Shirou's age. Any character like that from any anime? Quote
VotedforKodos Posted April 18, 2016 Report Posted April 18, 2016 Well, really, the married with a son part is probably the most restrictive part. For all the requirements in the strictest form but playing a little fast and loose with the son's age, there's Momoko from Nanoha, though her son is her step-son, Mari from The World God Only Knows, Rinko from Gundam Build Fighters, Ringo from To Love-Ru, Masaki from Bleach, Kushina and Mikoto from Naruto, and Kallen and Naoto's unnamed mother from Code Geass. Loosening up those requirements, I might suggest Trisha from Fullmetal Alchemist, Marianne from Code Geass, Yuriko from Highschool of the Dead, Lindy and Presea from Nanoha, Grayfia and Venelana from High School DxD, Akasha, Gyokuro, Tsurara, and Ageha from Rosario+Vampire, and Tearju, Ryoko, and Sephie from To Love-Ru. Quote
warellis Posted April 18, 2016 Report Posted April 18, 2016 So is this story going to be like a CYOA? Quote
Ichasennin Posted April 18, 2016 Author Report Posted April 18, 2016 Not really though I'm going to ask for opinions often. Quote
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