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The story has been posted here

Greetings everyone,

I'm going to undertake a self-imposed challenge that I'd like to extend to everyone

It will be a FSN/The Gamer crossover, with a 10Y old Shirou waking up the day after Kiritsugu's death having the Mystic Eyes of Game Perception. He begins to develop his skill accordingly, in particular his Charisma, because at high level it makes him more convincing, thus allowing him to solve situations peacefully. However, it comes with the side effect of making him more and more attractive to the point that even adult women that would not otherwise make a move on a kid end up wanting to have sex with him.

Shirou, being his usual helpful self and trying to level up as much as possible, takes many Quests around the neighborhood with the result that in time he basically had sex with every woman in a two miles radius (though they are not aware of each other since they all keep it a secret).

The story will have plot, action and of course smut. It will be Femdom initially, as Shirou is relatively young and shy, but it will start changing as he become older.

Note: as for this challenge request every female character from canon will be at least 5 years older that Shirou.

What I'd like to ask of this community is:

1 - To propose older females outside of FSN canon to use as characters for the sidequest/Shirou's mistresses. Characters from other series are fine too, provided that I'll use them out of context. Kindly provide pictures if available.

2 - An help developing the Game System, that while similar to The Gamer's will be substantially different.

3 - The Grail War will involve more Masters and Servants, so I'd like inputs on who involve. Heroic Spirits cannot be characters from other series either, unless they too are versions of actual legendary figures and not in conflict with canon FSN versions.

As per this post title, I claim Fate: Gamer Night - Shota Edition for myself.

Anyone feeling like trying/helping out?

Down here is what I thought so far about Shirou's starting Stats and abilities

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"Outside of FSN canon", does that mean we can propose females from other Fate titles like Fate/Extra or Fate/Grand Order, or even Apocryoha for example?

Or do you mean entirely out of the Fate series in general?

Also is it like we propose so-and-so for the characters and you write?

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I'm posting partly because of what you put under the Hero Complex: "You literally cannot kill to save your life." Now, if you intended that to literally mean that Shirou can't bring himself to kill if it's only to save his own life, that's okay, but if you meant he can't bring himself to kill at all, that's not. He's perfectly willing to kill people, even people he knows and has some attachment to, if it saves people. In Fate, when Shinji refused to take down Blood Fort Andromeda, Shirou was going to kill him, and in UBW, when Caster is holding Taiga hostage, he's thinking that he'll kill Rin if she does anything that could put Taiga in danger.

But enough about that, for older females, just within Type Moon, there are an abundance, so this will just be those who could be reasonably expected to be in Japan outside of coming for the Grail War. In Fuyuki, aside from all the girls at the school in canon, there's also Taiga and Otoko Hotaruzuka, who is the daughter of the owner of the bar Shirou works at in canon. Both the Aozaki sisters could be said to be in Japan. Given it's an alternate timeline, the events of Kara no Kyoukai wouldn't happen, but Shiki Ryougi, Azaka Kokutou, and Fujino Asagami are all available (Shiki would be about 25 at the time of the Fifth Grail War, the other two a few years younger). Prototype includes Ayaka and Manaka Sajyou and Misaya Reiroukan. And lastly, Reika Rikudou, Assassin of Black's Master from Apocrypha, and Kiara Sessyouin, Anderson's Master from CCC.

For the rest, how many more Masters and Servants would you plan on using, and would you intend this as a serious Grail War, or would the objective be for them all to be female for smut reasons?

For the game aspects, one aspect you might go for is achievements and experience from sex.

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  On 4/16/2016 at 12:18 PM, warellis said:

"Outside of FSN canon", does that mean we can propose females from other Fate titles like Fate/Extra or Fate/Grand Order, or even Apocryoha for example?

Or do you mean entirely out of the Fate series in general?

Also is it like we propose so-and-so for the characters and you write?

Feel free to propose whichever character you like. However, if you want a woman from a sci-fi anime, I'll use her out of context. If you ask for a woman from within the nasuverse continuity I'll try to use her in context

  On 4/16/2016 at 1:28 PM, tm_fan said:

I'm posting partly because of what you put under the Hero Complex: "You literally cannot kill to save your life." Now, if you intended that to literally mean that Shirou can't bring himself to kill if it's only to save his own life, that's okay, but if you meant he can't bring himself to kill at all, that's not. He's perfectly willing to kill people, even people he knows and has some attachment to, if it saves people. In Fate, when Shinji refused to take down Blood Fort Andromeda, Shirou was going to kill him, and in UBW, when Caster is holding Taiga hostage, he's thinking that he'll kill Rin if she does anything that could put Taiga in danger.

But enough about that, for older females, just within Type Moon, there are an abundance, so this will just be those who could be reasonably expected to be in Japan outside of coming for the Grail War. In Fuyuki, aside from all the girls at the school in canon, there's also Taiga and Otoko Hotaruzuka, who is the daughter of the owner of the bar Shirou works at in canon. Both the Aozaki sisters could be said to be in Japan. Given it's an alternate timeline, the events of Kara no Kyoukai wouldn't happen, but Shiki Ryougi, Azaka Kokutou, and Fujino Asagami are all available (Shiki would be about 25 at the time of the Fifth Grail War, the other two a few years younger). Prototype includes Ayaka and Manaka Sajyou and Misaya Reiroukan. And lastly, Reika Rikudou, Assassin of Black's Master from Apocrypha, and Kiara Sessyouin, Anderson's Master from CCC.

For the rest, how many more Masters and Servants would you plan on using, and would you intend this as a serious Grail War, or would the objective be for them all to be female for smut reasons?

For the game aspects, one aspect you might go for is achievements and experience from sex.

Well, the purpose for this story is be 50% smut so female characters are likely intended for that objective. I plan to have several Masters and Servant (no more than 15 teams) wage war for the Grail. Also the Grail War would be more of a contest in which the participant must gather "shards" by going into Illusion Barriers (The Gamer style). They can fight against each other for possession of these shards, but it's not necessary. They might even team up to take down a Dungeon Boss. However, ultimately, only he who gathers all shards can make a wish to the Grail.

As far as the "Hero complex" title goes, you are correct. Shirou cannot kill to save his life, but he can kill to save someone else. He can even kill for other reasons, but never, ever for his own survival.

Also, about the sex, that's pretty much how it's going to go. At first Shirou will raise is CHR stat, which will have the unintended effect of making him attractive to the opposite gender. Starting with Taiga, who will take advantage of him in sleep at first, moving onto the neighborhood ladies until he's basically a sex-god by age 13.

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Heh maybe Shirou's Servant here is Nero Bride from FGO? Since she hasn't been summoned before, or at least her FGO backstory claims, she'll put all her love on her Master:

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Hm another female, from both FGO & Fate/Zero, might be Irisviel von Einzbern. She looks really good in that Halloween Princess CE outfit and it makes me wonder if here, she might be more than just an incredible homunculus... We do know that succubi do exist in the Nasuverse...

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Who knows what fun things a succubus Iri could do with shota Shirou here!

Kiara Sessyouin, Anderson's Master from CCC.

Oh yes, Kiara Sessyouin would be great! She is so very lewd :) She is the head of a sect of Buddhism that believes people will gain enlightenment through wild orgies of sex. Also her back story is kind of similar to EMIYA's, like being betrayed by people around her and wanting to save others.

She also likes to interpret situations in a lewd manner.

She could easily be someone who has a follower kidnap Shirou and take him to her for some spiritual counselling. ;)

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Oh, yes. I can confirm that Kiara was going to be involved, although possibly as a Servant.

Speaking of Servant, there are going to be fifteen classes this time around and I need both names for them and the Heroic Spirits summoned into them.

Please note that this story won't have any Counter Guardian Emiya, so somebody else has to fill the role of Rin's Servant.

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Typically, from what I've seen, when talking about additional classes beyond the base 7, yeah, people default to Shielder and Ruler. Next would be Avenger, if you wanted to go that route. Other things that have appeared in canon works were Arcueid's original class in Extra being Temptress, Ryougi Shiki showing up in Extra as Monster, the final boss being Saver, and I believe in Prototype there was a Beast class. Billy the Kid's profile from Grand Order references a Gunner class that has never shown up in canon materials, and the next most common idea I've heard of would be a martial artist Servant, possibly something like Striker?

Actually, how loose are you playing the rules of Servants with this? For the Fuyuki Grail, technically there are restrictions that make it so gods and eastern heroes can't be summoned. Is there any intent to follow those rules, or are you treating it more like Grand Order and just working with whatever you feel like having in?

After the Servants, there would be the question of Masters. There's the obvious ones, Shirou, Rin, Sakura, and Illya, which leaves another 11. Less, if you go the route FSN did and have the Caster also be a Master. Bazett, if you keep her and don't have her get shanked by Kirei, makes 10. I might also suggest Ayaka, Manaka, Luvia, Fiore, Misaya, and/or Gray. Obviously any other magus or person unscrupulous enough to have their Servant feed on people would also work. As for male Masters to die brutally, there's always Shinji, Zouken, and Medea's original Master around, plus anyone else from other sources.

The Grail shard concept is interesting. Did you plan to have a set number of shards to gather? And are there actual restrictions about how they transfer, like that it has to be a result of a fight? If not, that opens up doors for a lot of different situations. Giving away shards, ransoming people for them, wagering them, using them for negotiations or collateral...the possibilities are endless.

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Some suggestions for outside characters to use: Chifuyu Orimura, Saeko Busujima, Rei Miyamoto, Saya Takagi, Shizuka Marikawa, Akame, Kurome, Dorothea, Seryu Ubiquitous, Asia Argento, Xenovia Quarta, Irina Shidou, Ravel Phenex, Xuelan, Suzunoki Rin and any Symphogear girls.

Chifuyu and Saeko could easily be Taiga's friends from her kendo days. Saya's father could be connected to Taiga's grandfather and know each other that way. Rei could have similar connections as Saeko, but also her parents are cops, and given Shirou's justice fixation, he could meet them. Actually, same thing with Seryu, her dad was a supporter of justice and she also has a justice fixation like Shirou. Shizuka is a nurse, so Shirou could meet her at any time if he got hurt. Rin is just because I started watching Bakuon and like her, but Shirou does fix up motorcycles for Taiga's grandfather, so he could for her, too. Asia, Xenovia, and Irina could all be sent in by the Church as support for managing the Grail War. Akame and Kurome I imagined as being assassins hired by one of the Masters to help win the War, but they could be anything else. Dorothea as a Dead Apostle who got involved looking for a way to have no-strings attached immortality. Ravel could be a magus who transferred in for the War, or just a regular rich ojou-sama type girl. Xuelan as her bodyguard. Carol from Symphogear could easily be in the War, with her alchemy, summoned monsters, and dolls, and any of the rest could be put in as idols. If Shirou is going to be able to level up from sex, he should get even more bonuses from having sex with idols, right?

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  On 4/17/2016 at 1:41 AM, VotedforKodos said:

Typically, from what I've seen, when talking about additional classes beyond the base 7, yeah, people default to Shielder and Ruler. Next would be Avenger, if you wanted to go that route. Other things that have appeared in canon works were Arcueid's original class in Extra being Temptress, Ryougi Shiki showing up in Extra as Monster, the final boss being Saver, and I believe in Prototype there was a Beast class. Billy the Kid's profile from Grand Order references a Gunner class that has never shown up in canon materials, and the next most common idea I've heard of would be a martial artist Servant, possibly something like Striker?

Actually, how loose are you playing the rules of Servants with this? For the Fuyuki Grail, technically there are restrictions that make it so gods and eastern heroes can't be summoned. Is there any intent to follow those rules, or are you treating it more like Grand Order and just working with whatever you feel like having in?

IIRC wasn't there something from Nasu for the Fuyuki Grail War, that it should've switched classes for every War? Or maybe it was some sort of early concept thing.

As for Arcueid and the Temptress class, how did that work?

Also I just realized something: might we get to see Fem-Gil as a Servant here?

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Ichasennin, I'm going to have to ask you to clarify, is this a request or challenge for someone else to write a story based on your premise, or are you writing a story, with input from other people? If the latter is the case, this is not the place to do that, so I'll need to move this thread for you.

Willow Darkling, Forum Moderator.

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I think I vaguely remember some mention in the VN that the classes getting changed up from war to war was a thing that would happen, and that the Fifth War having the same classes as the Fourth was a coincidence? But there have been enough retcons on various subjects that I don't think it matters. I think the last rule I remember hearing about the classes in the Fuyuki Grail War was that the three Knight classes had to be summoned, and the other four were up in the air.

As for Arcueid...well, it was Extra, so it was weird on its own, and her showing up was basically just fanservice, but I think it just came down to her Master in Extra being really, really incompetent. So incompetent, in fact, that he couldn't understand what she was supposed to be, made her a Berserker and put her under a Mad Enhancement that had negative effects equal to A-rank with benefits equal to C-rank. Something came out that her original class was supposed to be "Funny Vamp" in the original Japanese, but got localized in English as Temptress.

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How the heck does Funny Vamp get localized to "Temptress?"

But the class name does sound intriguing. I could imagine Semiramis being a great temptress. Even Arcueid herself assuming she learned how to sexually tempt people somewhere, or was pretty sexually lustful here for whatever reason. She is beautiful in both her short-haired self & long-haired self.

Just realized something: Ichasennin mentioned Kiara as a possible Servant. Maybe here, the Angra Mainyu/Avenger equivalent is Kiara instead of Avenger/whatever his actual name is from the OTL 3rd Grail War? Kiara possibly summoned in her Demon form?

But I also enjoy the idea of Kiara being one of the Masters here. Well whatever the case with Kiara I hope we get to see her Demon form.

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  On 4/17/2016 at 11:52 AM, WillowDarkling said:

Ichasennin, I'm going to have to ask you to clarify, is this a request or challenge for someone else to write a story based on your premise, or are you writing a story, with input from other people? If the latter is the case, this is not the place to do that, so I'll need to move this thread for you.

Willow Darkling, Forum Moderator.

Yeah, considering how the topic went, I suppose that would be better. Thank you.

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Ichasennin, are you planning on writing a story based on this and post in the Archives?

If so, I need to know which subcategory (Anime>Het, yaoi, yuri, etc...?) it will be posted in, so I can move this thread to the appropriate forum.

Willow Darkling, Forum Moderator.

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  On 4/17/2016 at 7:31 PM, WillowDarkling said:

Ichasennin, are you planning on writing a story based on this and post in the Archives?

If so, I need to know which subcategory (Anime>Het, yaoi, yuri, etc...?) it will be posted in, so I can move this thread to the appropriate forum.

Willow Darkling, Forum Moderator.

Anime>Fate Stay Night-> Het

Thanks again. I'll be posting the introductory chapter in a couple of days.

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Alright, awesome.

Then I'll move this to the Fan Fiction, Anime>Het subforum, (we don't have a special Fate Stay Night subforum), I don't think we have a special category for , and then you can use this thread as your Review Reply thread as well. I'll leave a link here to the new location, so people can find it more easily.

But you guys are welcome to discuss this freely now that I've moved the thread.

Happy writing.

Willow Darkling, Forum Moderator.

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In addition to the various outsider females the guest mentioned one possible outsider female I think may be fun is Morrigan Aensland (image) (and her sister Lilith (image) considering Lilith can sort of stay in side Morrigan until she needs to come out). Seeing her in any hetero lemons is very rare and we do know succubi do exist in the Nasuverse. ;)

This provides a little more info on Morrigan and Lilith: Morrigan, Lilith

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Well, really, the married with a son part is probably the most restrictive part. For all the requirements in the strictest form but playing a little fast and loose with the son's age, there's Momoko from Nanoha, though her son is her step-son, Mari from The World God Only Knows, Rinko from Gundam Build Fighters, Ringo from To Love-Ru, Masaki from Bleach, Kushina and Mikoto from Naruto, and Kallen and Naoto's unnamed mother from Code Geass.

Loosening up those requirements, I might suggest Trisha from Fullmetal Alchemist, Marianne from Code Geass, Yuriko from Highschool of the Dead, Lindy and Presea from Nanoha, Grayfia and Venelana from High School DxD, Akasha, Gyokuro, Tsurara, and Ageha from Rosario+Vampire, and Tearju, Ryoko, and Sephie from To Love-Ru.

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