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pippychick - GoT - We're All Going to Die
pippychick replied to pippychick's topic in Promote a Story!
Chapter Thirty-three -
Hi Anon I write third person but usually pick a particular character and go with their pov for the length of a chapter or a scene. I wrote the scene from the woman’s perspective in the middle (i.e. she felt). But to be honest they enjoyed it – a lot – so they’re definitely going to be doing it again… and again... so if you have a male perspective on this (or any advice at all!), I’d be eternally grateful, since I write the boys’ pov much more often than I write hers. While I didn’t originally envisage a lot of homoerotic content in this fic, it’s looking ever more likely that one of the guys will be in the middle at some point too. That’s a whole other set of things to think about, I’m sure. At least they can’t do this in a tent on the road. There’s no way whatsoever that Brienne can stay quiet. No way. And I’m definitely not thinking it would be kind of funny to try it… *smirks* even if I know the other two characters are thinking exactly the same thing. She’d probably kill them. Literally. With her sword.
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Currently wrestling with Tormund. He’s winning. Good job it’s not literally.
For a character who seems pretty simple on the surface, even in his own thoughts, this one is ridiculously deep. In fact, out of the three, he’s probably got a whole lot more going on than the other two once you dig down a bit.
I think it’s time for that last resort in getting right into a character: the fictional interview.
I kind of hate writing these, but in the absence of anyone to discuss it with, it’s the next best thing.
At least when this is done, I can drag them off to war. That should make for an interesting journey. All that sharing a tent business, the imperative need to stay absolutely silent no matter what… that will be fun for someone, I’m sure. Ok, that’s my reward! If I can just get over this little hurdle now…
Come on, Tormund, you obstinate sod!
*sighs*
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Silent in a tent…. oh, the fun you can have with that!
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I know, right? *rubs hands together* I know how that all works. I don’t need to talk about it at all.
But first… gah… I have lots of normal character stuff to know about Tormund. Lots of wondering to do. somewhere, I’m certain he’s still a bit annoyed at how everything’s gone. I mean, he had a fairly simple gig before. Climb the wall, steal things, do what you want. Have fun! Now he’s got all this responsibility, and he’s part of this other world that he never wanted to join, where everything’s a bloody great complicated mess and everyone is all fucked up. I’m certain that somewhere, deep down, he’s still pissed off at Snow for kind of being the catalyst for all of that.
I can’t talk out loud. I’m getting: “Please, stfu about Game of Thrones.” looks. :/
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I may be getting somewhere, but the three of them are coming to conclusions that might be too quick. Not sure how to stop them doing that. :/ *thinks*
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pippychick - GoT - We're All Going to Die
pippychick replied to pippychick's topic in Promote a Story!
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Well, I think I’ve nearly done it. Almost seven thousand words. It needs finishing off so that it’ll lead into the next chapter, and it needs several read throughs, but… I’m actually kind of happy with it in the main, I think. And despite the word count, there’s no way I can split this up. I’ve been kind of cruel with cliffhangers, sure, but I think splitting this would rightly get me some bad karma, lol.
Either this is the hottest thing I’ve written for a good, long while, or… *gulps* I’m completely mistaken, and I’ll get a healthy dose of reality when I post it. Please, please, please, let it be the first one.
Okay, I guess I’ll begin those read throughs now. *takes a deep breath*
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Right, well, lets see how that goes down. If at all.
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So, this morning it seems we pay the television license fee so that the BBC can invite dickheads on to Breakfast to justify shooting lions and elephants. No! F**k off!
Not the best start to the day. Gits.
*goes back to writing porn or whatever the hell this is*
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Omg what! Ugh i hate trophy hunting!
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I just don’t get trophy hunting. I mean, fair play if it’s you vs a lion barehanded and you win you earned it. But sitting half a mile away from with a rifle, meh fuck ya.
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The species they bring down the most is their own. Trophy hunters should be offered a choice between euthanasia or… well, actually just euthanasia.
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Occurs to me as I’m writing this now that while the boys swear in their thoughts all the time, Brienne doesn’t even use the word ‘cock’ in her own mind. This is an extra challenge that I should probably have foreseen when I said in my AN: “Of course I’ll be continuing in Brienne’s pov!” Bloodyhell… *sighs*
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I think he’s going to go with a good amount of lubrication at the back and the front, worked in nice and deep for a while. And all over the two of them before they start. Never too much for this. Um… I seem to have made Clegane quite… well, kind of well proportioned too. *coughs, and gives Brienne an apologetic look* She’ll be all right. I do have some power here. Although I have to admit I should probably have seen this coming right at the beginning. I didn’t, because I was too busy trying to solve the will they/won’t they slash issue that came up. By the time I’d done that, Tormund had already got it as a little ambition. And by ‘little ambition’ I do of course mean life goal. They’re all going to die. He wants this first, like the last meal of the condemned or something. I’ll make him pay later. When they’re all in Tarth and he’s having to wander around half naked, and he can’t sleep at night because it’s too hot. She can laugh at him then. I really think he’ll hate it. The chances of these three being able to settle anywhere except the north are zero.
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Oh, the mortuary attendant belongs to CloverReef. Honestly, I’d steal him in a heartbeat, but he’s a zombie now, and I’m alive. It’d never work.
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Well, I went back, and it seems I wasn’t that far off the end, after all. And you were right, I ducked out at the worst bit, just as it was about to be over, lol. So all in all, good. I can’t decide whether the actual adults in this world (I know this is Minor2, and really your characters are old enough for me to think of them as young adults, but for the sake of argument, I’m on about the old people) are just as fucked up and believe all this stuff, or if they’re kind of sinister. I’m going with sinister. Oh, and I still think that campsite had a lot to do with it. Take one mentally unstable young man, add a dash of terror (because that kind of place does bring terror, whether you’d be up for admitting to it or not), and this could easily be the result. No one likes to hang around dead people except for slightly creepy mortuary attendants…
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lol… well, you know I can handle it if it’s mild. I did get as far as the necrophilia. I’d say without the scat, I’d probably have been able to give a pretty positive review of that. The death scenes were nicely violent. He’s got some kind of religious freakery going on, hasn’t he? Can’t help feeling that first girl was lucky she didn’t go with. Or maybe the campsite had an effect on him? Hard to know, probably because I didn’t make it to the end. Yeah… it just got to the point that I couldn’t see through it, if you know what I mean?
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Ahhh… unfortunately not… and I think you’d be taking your life into your hands if you turned up in their universe and interrupted them right now, lol. The only reason I get away with it is because they have no idea whatsoever that I’m there… *g*
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*nods* Yes, I’m envisaging it that way around. Mostly because that way Clegane gets to have those favourite things of his well within reach. He’d like it best there. Edge of the bed might be best, so Tormund can have a foot on the floor, perhaps. It gives him more control if he’s going to be directing a lot of this. I haven’t been specific, but Clegane hasn’t done this before to my mind, so hopefully we can get to see him experiencing feeling Tormund moving alongside him, through Brienne’s eyes. As for the movement, I think they’d really have to alternate at first anyway, just to ease her in or it’d be a bad experience for her. So it’ll be quite slow to start. Tormund’s got some lengthy kind of prep planned, but even with that, it’s going to be a lot for her to take. There’s a lot of pressure involved on entry, that’s the danger point, making sure she stays nice and relaxed for the beginning, because that’s where it can really hurt if you’re not careful. After that, it should become a lot easier. Luckily, I think she’s at ease enough with them both now, and Tormund is quite good at getting her to accept things. Plus he seems to undersand pacing quite well. He’ll also make sure she’s communicating at all times. Well, until she gets to the point of being completely non-verbal, lol. I don’t think she’s got any idea at all how much she’s going to like this. They keep having surprises lined up for her, don’t they? Bronx, this is so helpful, everything you’ve said – thank you!
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Well, I’m about ready to start. I don’t think I’ve written this before… it hardly matters even if I have, since I’m doing it with vastly different characters. If I had, it would have involved Nimbrethil, and she was dominant, but she definitely wasn’t a Brienne. Not at all. So... I’ve done the usual oodles of research and stuff, so there’s a lot going through my mind as I attempt this, but if anyone has any tips at all on writing a good double penetration scene, here would be a good place to post them. The biggest challenge, despite the mechanics, the preparation, etc is keeping these three in character throughout. I don’t see the opportunity for all that much dialogue, which is a bit of a bind. I mean, they’ll speak, obviously, but they’re clearly not going to be talking about anything or asking each other the time of day. Dialogue is usually the easiest way to establish character, which pretty much just leaves action, which is already a really busy area, description wise. Still, it should be quite easy to get Clegane in character there, since Brienne will be looking at him through most of it. Rather more difficult for Tormund. But then I suppose he could have more dialogue, as the instigator of this. You’d think Brienne would be easy, as the pov character, but I don’t think that’s going to be the case. This is going to be overwhelming for her, and having her in character in her thoughts isn’t enough anyway. She needs to display it outwardly. Mind you, if ever there was a character likely to ask the time of day under these particular circumstances, it’d probably be her. Actually, I can hear her doing it… But, yes… I’d be really grateful for any suggestions, hints, tips, etc. you guys have.
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I’ve finally caught up at least a little on my reading, and I’ve done my archive work, so now I’m gonna let myself write forthe rest of the evening, because Brienne is jumping up and down inside my head right now, and she’s all: “Thirty chapters! It’s my turn now! Write me!”
Gods, these three are demanding. To them, I swear I am just some weird version of Podrick with a pen… but it’s fun, all the same. Brienne’s pov or not, she’s got a surprise coming. The boys have something in mind, don’t they? Haha…
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Do it! lol
I’m not going to lie. I’m having as much fun writing this as anything I’ve ever written with the elves. The interplay between the three of them is great, and the slow undoing of Brienne… I’m just so glad to see her finally getting to have some fun. Real fun. And being properly adored and worshipped, instead of having to make do with the crumbs of attention thrown her way by characters like Jaime Lannister. I’m so going to let her pay him back for that later. In fact, I’ve already written some of that scene. Ha!
I just can’t help it. How is it I can have the only Clegane/Brienne/Tormund centred story going on, in the world? There’s something wrong with the world. There has to be. *sniffles*
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I think it’s just no one can do it the justice you can…
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I think it’s just no one can do it the justice you can…
You are too generous to me, lol… but seriously, how can people see the Tormund/Brienne, and completely miss the Clegane/Brienne potential? I think the rest of the world must be utterly blind.
I have evidence to offer!
- Clegane’s comment while building that sept when being asked questions. “It was a woman.” He’s well aware of how his words could be taken.
- Their conversation about her in S7.
- That look when they finally see each other again in King’s Landing.
- The way they both check each other out during their conversation about Arya.
Really, for two characters that are quite understated about showing things, this is the equivalent of shouting from the rooftops. Well, that’s how I see it, anyway.
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pippychick - GoT - We're All Going to Die
pippychick replied to pippychick's topic in Promote a Story!
Chapter Thirty-one The beginning of a series of chapters written from Brienne’s point of view. -
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Okay… so: I object to having it inferred that I don’t know the difference between fiction and reality. I do. I may at times describe myself as a hobbit, but on official documentation, I tend to go with British, or human if they ask for it (they usually don’t). I object to being expected to feel some kind of additional shame for sexual writing, because frankly, bollocks to that. As someone who has written dark things, and some spectacularly dark themes on despair, I consider that portion of my work falls into the horror/erotica genre, which is perfectly acceptable. While I write fanfiction, a lot of authors who write original fiction have made a lot of money out of that genre. It’s popular enough. No doubt there are people in my life who would be shocked at some of the things I’ve written. Just because I can touch them, doesn’t make a difference. Don’t like, don’t read still applies in their case. I have no intention of changing anything about myself merely for the sake/comfort/enjoyment of others. Ever. Frankly, bollocks to that too. Life is too short for that nonsense. As to you, OP (ForgetMeNaught), I have no idea what you wrote, or of your problems, then or now. I would simply ask that you do not include others in them. You may have changed your mind on what is acceptable, and you are free to do so, but your change in opinion does not mean you should come here and accuse this community of being sordid, distasteful and reprehensible. Nor should you come here and urge others in this community to stop enjoying their activities here. Your issues are your own. I wish the best of luck with them. That is all.
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And thank you once more, Bronx! Well, I hope you are having lovely dreams somewhere, all tucked up. They are a clan, and also, it’s got beyond appearances now. I said somewhere else, proximity and intimacy creates desire, and Tormund is feeling it. Clegane too, whether he wants to admit it or not. I really shouldn’t worry. There is already much more slash content in this story than I originally envisaged. I don’t intend to put any bars on them except for their own foibles (which is clearly code for: Clegane! Get with the program! lol), so Tormund can get up to whatever the hell he likes, and Brienne can be as curious and encouraging as she likes. Clegane probably doesn’t stand a chance, really, does he? Actually, I imagine the first time they share her like that will be an intimate moment, not just with her, but between them both. Perhaps Clegane will begin to understand then how all of this works.
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Thank you! Yes, I like that. Bright lights. As I’m writing them, I imagine the way they suit each other, and I tend to think of myself as taking a step beyond the Jaime’s and the Daenerys’ and the Jon Snow’s of that world. A step higher, so to speak. I don’t see these characters as broken, or as monsters, or as anything other than human. I do see them as complicated, fascinating, and motivated by some slightly different things. They’re all very strong characters, not just powerful. I think it makes a difference that they all feel so physically invulnerable. It gives them a dimension of personal power that makes them enjoy being together all the more, because when they’re together, that ceases to make a difference. It’s like, as Clegane was thinking earlier, as Tormund believes – they’re all equals. Aww… I think he’s getting used to those good moods a bit more. Well, he’d better make the most of them. War comes quickly. Snow isn’t going to let the army of the dead get to Winterfell and endanger the lives of people there. They’ll go out to meet it, as soon as the Lannister armies have caught them up.
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Oh, Gods… thank you so much! Oh, he enjoyed himself! And of course, at some point, he’ll get to ask for the same from her. Wonder what he’ll do then… ? Hmm… The slash part was irresistible. Brienne is just as curious about that as she is about how she fits in with them. Each of them, at times, takes on the role of facilitator. Brienne will too, just as Tormund has done. Just as Clegane will do. I really do love the intricacies of writing these relationships, and the balance involved. But above all, to hear that I managed to keep true to their characters is wonderful. Especially since the things they are doing with each other are changing them a little. That’s unavoidable. Brienne probably most of all, although she’s beginning to find her way back to herself in this scene. Those two are too fond of overwhelming her. They won’t get away with it forever, not even when Tormund gets his little dream realised. *g*
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lol… thank you! Ah… when Brienne stops being nervous, she’s incredible. There might be two of them. They’re still going to have their hands full, aren’t they?
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Thank you Oh, he knows, but Jon Snow has a head full of concerns here, poor bugger. He’s not going to be gossiping about them. He wants the tactic to work, and now so does Clegane. It’s quite clever of him, really. The three of them will be a blow for the Night King if they get through. But there are other surprises to come for Jon Snow that will happen behind the scenes. I’ll try to explain what’s going on in the fic, but he has a part to play yet. And is it Blackfyre? I don’t know. I don’t know if it’s something I might use later. Possibly…
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Thank you, Bronx! Oh, Tormund is not wasting time. They don’t have it to waste, unfortunately. I’m glad you love the Clegane/Brienne so much. I think Brienne is falling deep, and not just for Clegane. She’s not realising how deeply she’s falling for Tormund. When she does, it’ll add a whole other dimension to all of this. Gosh… if I carry on this way, I’ll be writing for Mills & Boon before the end of the year! *giggles* But seriously, I’m enjoying it so much. I don’t know what I was frightened of when I shied away from heterosexual romance. I remember all the trouble I had when I first started writing Elrond with female characters. I’m glad I did persevere with that. It kind of prepared me a little bit for doing this now, so that I can relax into it.