Snake_King's Story Discussion Thread

[Strange_idea]

well, magic is too easilt abused, the lazarus is right out if you don;t want EVERYTHING to go gotham, and most of the others take time and personal attention from specific individuals. i think she meant commonly available, not stupidly expensive but available

[Snake_King]

Then again, there are people who believe that if the cure for cancer was found and made widely available, then doctors and medical professionals at large would be out of a job.  After all, as King T’Chaka said in the Black Panther comic and motion-comic, “Why cure a disease when people pay for medicine?”

[Snake_King]

Just now, Strange_idea said:

well, magic is too easilt abused, the lazarus is right out if you don;t want EVERYTHING to go gotham, and most of the others take time and personal attention from specific individuals. i think she meant commonly available, not stupidly expensive but available

I know what you meant, though I there are other drugs and miracle cures in the DC Universe that DON’T induce insanity.

[Strange_idea]

no, that’s stupid. doctors take an oath to do what they can for that and producing the cure creates more specialists and keeps clients alive. and you will need treatments, so that’s repeat work, whereas if they die it’s over. did curing smallpox kill the medical industry? no, it made new branches. disease evolves, o doctors are fighting an uphill batlle and frankly any reprieves would be a good thing.

 

any that can be mass-produced? without causing a rash of super-powers?

[Snake_King]

Maybe, but are you saying that doctors can’t be corrupted?

[Strange_idea]

oh yes, and the kind of person who would think that would probably be selfish enough that it affects reasoning. but that someone as smart as t’challa would say that is just sad.

I was criticising that line of thinking. the idea that someone would think that is plausible, they’d just be an idiot with a malfunctioning amygdala. sorry if i sound harsh

[Snake_King]

Not T’Challa, his father, T’Chaka is the one who said it.  Although, it was written by Reginald Hudlin, the man who turned Black Panther into a God-Mode Sue and Wakanda into a Marysuetopia.

[Strange_idea]

ah sorry. yeah, that gets annoying

[Snake_King]

Uh-huh, it does.

[Strange_idea]

weirdest take i’ve ever seen where a book that showed neanderthals as psionic perfect enlightened pacifists, as in the people we outlived because we invented community, and song about how the aztecs never knew violence or war before the white man came

[Snake_King]

If you’ll pardon me for saying it, sounds like a bit of bull.

[Strange_idea]

the neanderthal thing? definitely. the aztec thing? there are no words for how dumb that was

[Snake_King]

The whole thing just sounded like someone melted the author’s brain.

[Strange_idea]

i blame psychic neanderthals

[Snake_King]

Either that or they were on an acid trip.

[Snake_King]

Has anyone seen the anime Keijo? 

In case you haven’t and don’t know what it’s about, it’s basically a sports anime where the contestants are all women and girls, have to compete against each other on floats called a land in a swimming pool, and have to knock each other off of the land using only their boobs and butts.  It’s pretty ridiculous and funny at the same time.  I think you can pretty much describe it as taking fanservice and turning it into a sports story.

[Strange_idea]

I heard that part of the humour is in how absurdly seriously they take it. With dramatic comebacks, secret techniques, intense trsining, etc. Which doesn't take away from thr fanservice, just keeps things interesting.

 

Also it may be a reao contest, but my memory is shakey there.

[Snake_King]

Yeah, it does add to it.  I think Kevin Smith said that these days, because people are so cynical and jaded and are so used to how stories tend to work, writers have to rely on more and more absurd and out there plots to keep their interest.  And let’s face it, Japan knows how to take fanservice and make it over the top and funny.

[Strange_idea]

I dunno, the.standards of stories changing mean that sometimes reading the classics becomes it's own twist. The boom of jurassic park is a VERY different take than thr film for example, because the things they chabge aren't the ones you think are building up to a surprise.

 

That said, subtle differences and changes are not to be underestimated. There's a lot to be said for using an audiences expectations against them.

 

Additionally, i feel a story needs to stand on it's own merits outside the fanservice. I could be skewed though, I genuinely read change 123 for the character arcs and got so involved i forgot the female lead was an exibitionist. Bit of an odd thing here but hey.

[Snake_King]

True, sometimes a return to form is needed in order to shake things up.

As for using an audience's expectations against them, sometimes doing that all the time can in and of itself get repetitive.  For example, using a non-hentai/ecchi case, one of IDW’s Publishing’s “Transformers” comic writers, James Roberts, tends to use the constant setup of evidence in history being supposed fact only to pull the unreliable narrator trope and reveal that the events in question went about in a different direction.  He does this to the point of predictability and, as far as I can tell, is unapologetic for it.  A common way he tends to do it is having the heroes about to meet something/someone supposedly divine/supernatural, only for that person/thing to be revealed as either fake or mundane in nature.

I haven’t seen Change 123, but I just looked it up and I’ll have to check it out later.

[Red_Light_Zone]

Here's an idea. Perversions in Opposite World. (Based on a manga)

Basically, an American foreigner goes to japan as a vacation and, to commemorate his fun time, buys a pornographic comicbook. The book itself was strange in that the rolls were reversed. Perverted women were now molestors andcinnocent men could become slutty. Before he knew it, he was actually socked into the comic. 

Now, the protagonist is in a doujin world where the attitude towards sex and the virtues of men and women are reversed. He must navigate through this world as a slut, trying to live day to day while getting gangbanged by random, degenerate women.

 

[Guest 368]

Hey snake king continue the chapter 3 to ben 10 a bend reality

[Snake_King]

6 hours ago, Guest 368 said:

Hey snake king continue the chapter 3 to ben 10 a bend reality

I’m working on it.

[Snake_King]

Well, here’s chapter 3 of “Ben 10: A Bend In Reality.”  Let me know what you all think, and I’ll get back to you as soon as possible.

[Guest 368]

I liked chapter 3 ... you know it would be interesting for girls to use their breasts as weapons.

I will wait patiently for chapter 4.