Praetor's Discussion Thread

[Praetor]

     Actually, HBO is all about killing people.  Most of the characters killed in the last two seasons of Game of Thrones are still alive and well in the books and other shows they make are rife with massacres.  I would love to hear the Big Hero 6 idea.

[Guest Guest, maybe writer]

okay, it’s still a bit tenative, but it’s about the gogo, honey lemon plotline. I feel they should get some emphasis, so what if Hiro’s slipping into the other world was intermediate? he kept slipping between the two, either because of the nature of whatever happened, or because he wanted to keep his old life going. the story alternates between worlds, with hiro looking forwards to going back and having moments from the series between. with some differences starting small, then completely off-rails

 

GoGo and lemon DO have a growing Crush on him, but don’t realise it at first for now the main concern is convincing him to stay in their universe. They’re worried he might choose to leave them for the other universe. this makes them realise the crush and akes them desperate. desperate enough to start recruiting. people like abigail callaghan, the girl who’s life he saved, karmi, his biggest fan and civilian rival, high voltage 2, for a plea bargain and more if more show up.

Maybe momakase, I couldn’t get a read on her as where i live they aren’t showing the series so it’s hard to find episodes and maybe bringing them into the superhero fold too to raise the appeal and geep hiro from guessing too early.

basically countering the allure of a harem setting, with another harem setting. harem-to harem combat.

they eventually offer themevles last, and being people he knows and admires it has a lot of weight in his eyes

the big weakness is that there’s not currently that any characters from the fresh series, though that could be used in story for desperation and character moments, such as fear it won’t be enough

what do you think? and what did you think of the genderbend princes/villains thing?

[Praetor]

     I was planning on formally merging the settings, to where San Fransokio is in the Marvelverse (an oversight from any reality bending event).  I feel it’s easier that way and makes more sense.  I am not a big fan of multiverse stories, I think they’re silly.  Who are these people, what series?  Oh, there’s a series now.  Great, I need to borrow someone’s Disneyflix password.  I am considering the genderbending element.  I have done it before, ultimately it would have to be with thebooblover’s permission since it is his challenge after all.  As you have noted though, over crowding could become an issue.

Edited May 15, 2018 by Praetor

[Guest Guest, maybe writer]

The genderbent prrinces and villains could be considered ‘second tier’ harem, the princes are mostly for the princesses use (if they want them), and the villains are mostly unused after they get ‘punished’ by hiccup (except gothel and maleficent, he’s keeping an eye on them) and probably given to the men. they are there for resolution, but get less screen focus. leaves something for bonus chapters too.

 

the big hero 6 idea could still work, they just hve to fear losing him from moving away from san fransokyo or the team and want to keep him there with them. good idea mixing them though, it lets you play with ages and make new versions of them that match the setting

Abigail is the girl he rescued from the portal in the movie. she’s been exposed to portal-space, so who knows? and reasonably she would have some affection for the guy who saved her

Karmi is a co-student at the university, used to be the youngest there until hiro arrived and is bitter (and convincent from his strange behaviour he has a crush on her), but she’s not that bad once you get past that and definitly intelligent. she, in turn, is head over heals for his heroic identity. she’s a microbiologist, specialising in pathogens, so if you want someone to help with the biochemical side of the pivotal formula she could work with honey lemon on it

high voltage is a supervillain from the 80s and high voltage II is her daughter, who chooses to be an 80s girl. they control lightning emitted from a power-sphere by dancing, which leaves hiro room for upgrades. they’re also very proud and self-centred, they’re good t performing/actobatics/dancing/fighting and could take their act professional but feel anything else other than supervillainy is beneath them, and will ditch each other if needed. so it makes sense that jr would agree to an off-the books plea bargain

Momakase is an assasin/theif who uses laser chef knifes. that’s all i know

[Guest guest, maybe writer]

maybe aunt cass if you want i dunno, probably by accident or just blind desperation. take her or leave her

but that’s a very workable number for hometeam

[Guest guest, maybe writer]

is there any way to alert or notify thebooblover?

 

if you;re seeing this please give your opinion

[Praetor]

     Not as a guest.  I can message him though, but I need to study the lore a little more if I want to implement the new show.

[Guest Guest, maybe writer]

well i meant about this AND the gender thing. but thank you, i am thinking of getting an account and it’s good to know how this works. I do appreciate your responses.

[thebooblover]

On 5/14/2018 at 9:15 PM, Guest Guest, maybe writer said:

the big hero 6 idea could still work, they just hve to fear losing him from moving away from san fransokyo or the team and want to keep him there with them. good idea mixing them though, it lets you play with ages and make new versions of them that match the setting

Abigail is the girl he rescued from the portal in the movie. she’s been exposed to portal-space, so who knows? and reasonably she would have some affection for the guy who saved her

Karmi is a co-student at the university, used to be the youngest there until hiro arrived and is bitter (and convincent from his strange behaviour he has a crush on her), but she’s not that bad once you get past that and definitly intelligent. she, in turn, is head over heals for his heroic identity. she’s a microbiologist, specialising in pathogens, so if you want someone to help with the biochemical side of the pivotal formula she could work with honey lemon on it

high voltage is a supervillain from the 80s and high voltage II is her daughter, who chooses to be an 80s girl. they control lightning emitted from a power-sphere by dancing, which leaves hiro room for upgrades. they’re also very proud and self-centred, they’re good t performing/actobatics/dancing/fighting and could take their act professional but feel anything else other than supervillainy is beneath them, and will ditch each other if needed. so it makes sense that jr would agree to an off-the books plea bargain

Momakase is an assasin/theif who uses laser chef knifes. that’s all i know

On 5/14/2018 at 9:18 PM, Guest guest, maybe writer said:

maybe aunt cass if you want i dunno, probably by accident or just blind desperation. take her or leave her

but that’s a very workable number for hometeam

 

14 hours ago, Guest guest, maybe writer said:

is there any way to alert or notify thebooblover?

 

if you;re seeing this please give your opinion

Sorry for late response.

Overall really enjoyed the idea.

[Guest Guest, maybe writer]

and the genderbent princes/villains thing? we needed your take on that too

[thebooblover]

16 hours ago, Guest Guest, maybe writer said:

and the genderbent princes/villains thing? we needed your take on that too

Well, it’s an interesting idea.

[Guest Guest, maybe writer]

It’s okay if it’s not your thing. This is largely your and praetor's story. If you’d prefer not to go there you can say, i don;t mind  the criticism

If yourre neutral about it that’s fine too.

[thebooblover]

On 5/17/2018 at 7:28 PM, Guest Guest, maybe writer said:

It’s okay if it’s not your thing. This is largely your and praetor's story. If you’d prefer not to go there you can say, i don;t mind  the criticism

If yourre neutral about it that’s fine too.

I’m neutral.

[Guest Guest, maybe writer]

okay. Can’t always come up with a winner. thanks for liking most of my ideas. I may come back with more later if that’s okay. not right away. I’ve had a good run and don’t want to be a bother.

 

Can;t wait to see how things go

[thebooblover]

11 hours ago, Guest Guest, maybe writer said:

okay. Can’t always come up with a winner. thanks for liking most of my ideas. I may come back with more later if that’s okay. not right away. I’ve had a good run and don’t want to be a bother.

 

Can;t wait to see how things go

Hey no worries, you weren’t being a bother.

And just because I’m neutral on the idea doesn’t mean I don’t want Praetor to use it.

[Praetor]

     It costs you nothing to create an account, and doing so makes simply navigating the forum easier.  If you are going to write anything yourself then it’s best to get one started now.  You aren’t a bother, this is exactly the kind of thing the threads are for.  We like conversation and discussion, the lack of them being a huge mood killer.

[Snake_King]

3 minutes ago, Praetor said:

     It costs you nothing to create an account, and doing so makes simply navigating the forum easier.  If you are going to write anything yourself then it’s best to get one started now.  You aren’t a bother, this is exactly the kind of thing the threads are for.  We like conversation and discussion, the lack of them being a huge mood killer.

Ditto.

[Guest Guest, maybe writer]

Oh.

Well in that case, I have some minor suggestions for the big hero 6 thing.

If you like my 'counter team' idea, heres some directions you could go

Hiro should be awkward and offput by e everytging. Confidence is nice but a2kwardness is funny and more relatable.

High voltage is already adored by the public and even wins the heroes over for a while with her dancing. If she gets 'enhanced' she'd have no trouble winning anyone over or hypnotising them. Thats kinda boring for her though, It eould be great for high voltage to be trying to set up a 'catwoman' relation with hiro, dismissing anyone else who tries to bring her in and flirting heavily, tryibg to seduce her way to another 'plea bargin' and maybe being publicly known as their 'renegade' member to the teams confusion and frustration. Not sure what to do with her mother, but she seems like she'd support her daughter and cheer her on..... in villainy. Not sure if thats good or bad parenting

Karmi should be a massive fangirl (you'll see it in the episode). She could have a superhero identity, but it might be more fun to have her be a 'secret hero doctor' due to her IQ and experiences. Shed provably agree to the project just to get close to hiro. It be funny for thibgs to grind to a halt just because she got his mask on, and she has to take time to come to terms, then set up a seductive apology. She should never clue in that he didn't (doesn't?) Have a crush on her, and just treat the idea as a fact when considering things. It'd make some sense for the 'substance' to be something she was developing as a side project to impress hiro, and she's furiois hiro accidentally used it before she could give it to hiro. But shes also worried about her classmate and sorry it was sorta her fault. Her realising ehat happened would be an interesting mix of emotionals, and another reason to play 'doctor'. Plus, it be a good way for honey and go-go to find out: they go to hiro's biggest fan for ideas to keep him (confident she won't recognise them) and she mentions this project she was working on that a classmate got exposed too.... honey offers to help refine it.

Abigail could also massive fan of the hero who saved her (its more compressed than karmi, she can compose herself until it comes up and even be proactive about it but shes a blushing, chronically shy mess once it does or she meets him, he did save her life and rescue her after several years) and has veen trying to surruptiously visit him for a while now, making trips to the university as a guest speaker, etc. She comedically also belives hiro has a crush on karmi and is jeasous but accepting, despite him having missed the whole thing. Alternatively, she too has no idea of his secret identity and bonds with karmi over admiration for hiro.... in front of hiro. Which gives karmi the idea to bring her in as a test volunteer for the serum. Shes not as much a behind-the scenes scientist as the ithers but has more life and practical expeince to share.

 She's also looking to try out for big hiro 6. She's been 'tracer' ing since the portal accident and can even do it to other thibgs and people (tracer mixed with maya from borderlands 2) or make mini-portals and thinks that could give her an in.... though she cant quite contr*she disappears for an hour*ol it yet, espevially when nervous so she needs their help with that. If she succeeds she'd probqbly be team driver/pilot, test subject (voluntarily). She has experience with all three.

Gogo would be VERY disadvantaged by losing her aerodynamic figure, so she could probably build some kind of figure minimiser armour, possibly with abigails help, which the girls could use to boost their civilian disguise by hiding their increased figures.

Hiro's body language in the film suggests a crush on honey lemon, that could be usefull. Maybe she's flatrered but doesn't give it too much thought yet or doesn't know, thinking its another rumor like hiro and karmi

Enhancement would result in increased body mass, which could render bunkbeds unusable, or break a bed by accident before the rei force the remainig one. It could be used to force honey and gogo to share a bed

The enhancement could also act as a super-soldier serum, or be inspired by the rumors of it and reverse engineered from obsvering its test subject (turns out ironically her bust is not from that, she's naturally like that), and helps make them better heros as a result.

I have no idea what to do with wasabi and fred.... but if they got 'headhunted' by hero teams or universities it could be used to put them aside, give them another reason to be desperate to keep hiro and the need to build a new 'team'. You could have them make video chats to stay in touch (or set up big hero six international) and imply their going through something similar by having them introduce female co-workers. I have this mental image of a female samurai dojo approaching wasabi for laser swords. They do act as excellent support and advice though and can add to the story, so maybe not. Though they could be involved with such groups in the immediate area as a compromise, which would let them get enhanced like hiro to the joy of their groups.

No idea who fred could meet. Maybe a girl at a comic book store, or from a rival rich family

I've nothing for the assasin, i haven't seen her episode.

[Guest Guest, maybe writer]

8Honey and gogo in bed toether (platonic.... for now):

Due to height difference Honey is holding gogo to her recently-englarged chest like a giant teddy. Gogo is glaring off to the side.

Gogo: dont make this weird

Honey: *already asleep*

Gogo:.... you're really comfy

Honey: *fondly smiles*

 

Also jokes about gogo's legs and butt would be not be amiss, she has a developed pair. It might be a good idea to have the serum develop them even further:

 

Theres plenty if jokes to make about gogo having 'super legs', or having a built-in airbag (falling over at hyperspeed and being surprised at the cusioning, or a running gag of hiro accidentally using her to csion falls, either from tripping, or being thrown from baymax or by a villain.)

Honeys breasts and nuturing natuee probably make her a hugger

Edited May 29, 2018 by WillowDarkling
Images removed to conform to new image rules.

[thebooblover]

1 hour ago, Guest Guest, maybe writer said:

Oh.

Well in that case, I have some minor suggestions for the big hero 6 thing.

If you like my 'counter team' idea, heres some directions you could go

Hiro should be awkward and offput by e everytging. Confidence is nice but a2kwardness is funny and more relatable.

High voltage is already adored by the public and even wins the heroes over for a while with her dancing. If she gets 'enhanced' she'd have no trouble winning anyone over or hypnotising them. Thats kinda boring for her though, It eould be great for high voltage to be trying to set up a 'catwoman' relation with hiro, dismissing anyone else who tries to bring her in and flirting heavily, tryibg to seduce her way to another 'plea bargin' and maybe being publicly known as their 'renegade' member to the teams confusion and frustration. Not sure what to do with her mother, but she seems like she'd support her daughter and cheer her on..... in villainy. Not sure if thats good or bad parenting

Karmi should be a massive fangirl (you'll see it in the episode). She could have a superhero identity, but it might be more fun to have her be a 'secret hero doctor' due to her IQ and experiences. Shed provably agree to the project just to get close to hiro. It be funny for thibgs to grind to a halt just because she got his mask on, and she has to take time to come to terms, then set up a seductive apology. She should never clue in that he didn't (doesn't?) Have a crush on her, and just treat the idea as a fact when considering things. It'd make some sense for the 'substance' to be something she was developing as a side project to impress hiro, and she's furiois hiro accidentally used it before she could give it to hiro. But shes also worried about her classmate and sorry it was sorta her fault. Her realising ehat happened would be an interesting mix of emotionals, and another reason to play 'doctor'. Plus, it be a good way for honey and go-go to find out: they go to hiro's biggest fan for ideas to keep him (confident she won't recognise them) and she mentions this project she was working on that a classmate got exposed too.... honey offers to help refine it.

Abigail could also massive fan of the hero who saved her (its more compressed than karmi, she can compose herself until it comes up and even be proactive about it but shes a blushing, chronically shy mess once it does or she meets him, he did save her life and rescue her after several years) and has veen trying to surruptiously visit him for a while now, making trips to the university as a guest speaker, etc. She comedically also belives hiro has a crush on karmi and is jeasous but accepting, despite him having missed the whole thing. Alternatively, she too has no idea of his secret identity and bonds with karmi over admiration for hiro.... in front of hiro. Which gives karmi the idea to bring her in as a test volunteer for the serum. Shes not as much a behind-the scenes scientist as the ithers but has more life and practical expeince to share.

 She's also looking to try out for big hiro 6. She's been 'tracer' ing since the portal accident and can even do it to other thibgs and people (tracer mixed with maya from borderlands 2) or make mini-portals and thinks that could give her an in.... though she cant quite contr*she disappears for an hour*ol it yet, espevially when nervous so she needs their help with that. If she succeeds she'd probqbly be team driver/pilot, test subject (voluntarily). She has experience with all three.

Gogo would be VERY disadvantaged by losing her aerodynamic figure, so she could probably build some kind of figure minimiser armour, possibly with abigails help, which the girls could use to boost their civilian disguise by hiding their increased figures.

Hiro's body language in the film suggests a crush on honey lemon, that could be usefull. Maybe she's flatrered but doesn't give it too much thought yet or doesn't know, thinking its another rumor like hiro and karmi

Enhancement would result in increased body mass, which could render bunkbeds unusable, or break a bed by accident before the rei force the remainig one. It could be used to force honey and gogo to share a bed

The enhancement could also act as a super-soldier serum, or be inspired by the rumors of it and reverse engineered from obsvering its test subject (turns out ironically her bust is not from that, she's naturally like that), and helps make them better heros as a result.

I have no idea what to do with wasabi and fred.... but if they got 'headhunted' by hero teams or universities it could be used to put them aside, give them another reason to be desperate to keep hiro and the need to build a new 'team'. You could have them make video chats to stay in touch (or set up big hero six international) and imply their going through something similar by having them introduce female co-workers. I have this mental image of a female samurai dojo approaching wasabi for laser swords. They do act as excellent support and advice though and can add to the story, so maybe not. Though they could be involved with such groups in the immediate area as a compromise, which would let them get enhanced like hiro to the joy of their groups.

No idea who fred could meet. Maybe a girl at a comic book store, or from a rival rich family

I've nothing for the assasin, i haven't seen her episode.

What about aunt Cass?

[Guest Guest, maybe writer.]

Actually that could a good moment/joke. Gogo and honey have come to terms with feelings for hero amd are discussing it in the lab, working on their dose.  Honey's working on it and getting tired, Gogo is laying belly-down on a desk, reading. Gogo is having more trouble coming to terms with it and worrying abou having a mutual crush that might tear them apart, admitting shes not good with feelings when she feels pressure on her cusion-y rear and realises honey's noddes off on her. She blushes. Smash cut to her and hiro having a similar flustered conversation aboout their newly mutual crush on honey lemon.

[Guest Guest, maybe writer.]

I don't have anything for aunt cass yet. I don't often think about familial relations like that. It would probably be an accident, either because she was visiting the lab and the girls didn't clear it away in time, or the formula wad mixed up at hiro's house (or misrakenly taken home) and wound up in somethibg she was cooking or on something she was eating.  Do you want her the age she is now, or age reverted to a teenanger? It'll help think of a dorection to take things

 

Give me a bit more time.

 

Any criticisms or feedback?

[Guest Guest, maybe writer]

Or suggestions/ideas?

[Gmon1]

i think as she is now would be fine. this story needs some milfs

[Guest Guest, maybe writer]

Okay. High voltage senior.... what if jr steals a dosage for her mother (comivally making it a double), turning her into a silver-haired but younger looking voluptuous but somewhat thicker lady.... either hourglass shaped classic or ir something like numver 19 here https://m.imgur.com/qjaQhwt. Or thicc i think it's called. Somethibg like this: 

 

 

Or

 

She makes her 'return tour' and encourages her daughter's new angle and interest in hiro. And maybe celebrating her new 'youth' by taking him for a spin behind her back without teliing or asking, driving her daughter to be more agreeable with 'home team', and sympathising with people trying to steal their hiro

She's not in the harem so to speak so much as a 'random encounter'. 

For cass.... okay look, this is new territory for me. Bear with me.

The reason i suggested the age reversion thing was so the hormone influx would allow her to overloom the 'issues' and let her be a different enough person hiro could overlook it too. Plus you could say it totally rewrote her genetically, removing long term issues.

The idea was that she had a second-hand dose from hiro's initial infection and woke up younger, but still adult and fuller figured, then got a second dose which reacted to the first, making her MUCH younger, as in a peer for hiro and the girls, and even fuller figured.

There would be a side plot of her trying to live her life despite the changes, she can pass off the first change but the second means she has trouble (she is sarcastic aboit them noticing NOW).

One possibility is to go back to college to keep her job (her bosses/landlord are reasonable, but still weirded out and have to follow the legal paperwork since their really isn't a precedent for this. And technically she cannot usr her old license anymore. To be in the safe side. Strictly speaking none of the information has changed but they don't want to risk it), so she takes a culinary license course and tries making enquiries at the university, where honey and gogo recognise what happened but don't want hiro to find out, both for their plans sake and because hed probably be mad, so they help her in secret, studying the efdects and looking for a cure (and maybe a way to improve it, but not deliberately, they aren't heartless).

Meanwhile, independently, She hides what happened from hiro bwcause she doesn't want him to worry (telling him the 'new girl' is a trainee waitress), who doesn't recognise her and she doesn't recognise him in his armour and begins falling for him after he saves her too or just runs into him, recognising hin as a local hero and hormones running high. Cue her trying to seduce the masked man when she runs into him at the university and the cafe a few times, trying to ennoy her youth and realese stress. They don't realise until their finished and she panics about it out loud, letting hiro know. Or keeps him in the dark for a while, confusing him further about his girl troubles while she freaks out to honey and gogo and maybe karmi.

Cass: I just slept with my nephew!

Gogo and honey, mentally: another one?

Karmi, weirded out but trying to help: Well technically speaking your gentic structure has had a complete overhaul in the last few days so i'm pretty sure it don't have to worry about incest.

Cass: That's not the issue! I hadn't even thought of that. I USES TO CHANGE HIS DIAPARS!

The freak out jumps to randomthinhs like him being so young, being related genetically when the girls mistakenly think thats what to reassure her about when its mostly just that he's her nephew as a whole.

The girls calm her down eventually by convincing her she's an entirely new cass, tell herself shes a her who isn't his aunt, so no harm done, and that hiro doesn't have to know before they change her back and she can deal with it in her own time. Oh and her dealing with hiro being a superhero.... this could be where karmi finds that out.

Maybe he runs into her in the shower, or she forgets herself and asks for a towel, cue realisation and 'shut up' makeout. Which loses the towel. Not sure where to go from there, other than maybe her moving to their prohect lab full time to get her head sorted out. She shows to be part of the harem though.

Like i said, new territory, so i might be able to think of a full-age no genetic rewrite cass thing, but it will take time and probably not be as good. Feel free to take your own, this can be broken up pretty neatly among the other girls.

Edited May 29, 2018 by WillowDarkling
Images removed to conform to new image rules.