Praetor's Discussion Thread

[Rexfan12345]

Also, how's Omniharem going? 

[Praetor]

     Still figuring out the next step on that one.  There’s a few more babes left to join the harem before a finale and I am wondering if it’s time Ben’s harem should come to light in any form.  I just don’t know which one I will focus on next.

[Gmon1]

What story do you have the most progress in?

[Praetor]

     Halfway done with chapter one of Spellbound (Teen Titans Beast Boy Harem) and a small chapter of Naruko’s Pact that I want to build into a larger one.

[Gmon1]

cool

[thebooblover]

8 hours ago, Praetor said:

     Halfway done with chapter one of Spellbound (Teen Titans Beast Boy Harem)

Awesome! Can’t wait.

[Guest I5W]

17 hours ago, Praetor said:

     Still figuring out the next step on that one.  There’s a few more babes left to join the harem before a finale and I am wondering if it’s time Ben’s harem should come to light in any form.  I just don’t know which one I will focus on next.

Which babes do you have left to add?

[Praetor]

     Elena, Turbine, Frightwig, Ester, an older Viktoria, Charmcaster, Jennifer Nocturn, Helen Wheels, Eight-Eight, Rook Shar, Drew Saturday- wow, I am not nearly as close to the finish as I thought I was-Sunny Tennyson, and Sandra.  I may drop or add some as time goes by.  I already added a genderbent Vilgax.

[Guest Random Fan]

If it comes to light, maybe as Will Harangue trying to expose Ben as a deviant mind controlling rapist. However, he is thwarted and whatever evidence he has is replaced by something embarrassing.

as for the girls for the premise.

charmcaster – walks in on Gwen and Ben, decides to join. Magically constructed strapons ensue when Charmcaster says she can handle anything Gwen has.

elena – due to the meddling, Elena is not evil and works with the plumbers, mainly fixing Blukic and Driba’s messes. After a frustrating day, she meets up with Ben. They talk, and an old flame ignites. Elena gets back at her halving bosses by taking it while bent over their work bench. As a nanobot human she can tighten her body to her liking, and can make her pussy vibrate, turning herself into a human dick massager.

ester – Ben goes to undertown when he has to stop another Kraaho from melting the city. After the fight she draws Ben back hoping to talk about improving Kraaho image as it's received a bad rep. Given her biology the feeling of her warm skin should be mentioned and how hot her insides are. And her  stretchy limbs could be used for a bizarre reach around.

Viktoria – Viktoria was traveling when she crashes on Earth by accident. She is originally scared out of her mind, being surrounded by monsters, in her POV. However, she warms up to Ben after he agrees to show her around town. She is aware of the looks she gets and becomes self-conscious of how she treats Ben on her planet. Ben comforts her and it leads to sex. With her species Ben could feel a small jolt when they go at it.

Turbine – having gone straight after her first trip to prison, Turbine now manages an auto shop where Ben has to go when his car is damaged in a fight. While there Turbine turns on the charm while she works. When time to pay comes, she says she doesn't want money, but a taste of what her old cell mate Rojo has been getting. They then have sex on the hood of Ben’s car or in the back seat.

Frightwig – Zombozo has stepped up his gam and plans something big. With Frightwig in custody they interrogate her on what it is. She refuses all that Ben tries. Trying to be cute and mess with Ben she flirts with him,trying to make him blush. However, it fails when Ben takes control and starts to, literally, pump her for information, threatening to stop if she doesn't talk. There can be groping with her tentacles, maybe some rougher than normal behavior like hair pulling or spanking.

Jennifer Nocturne – on a night out, Ben goes to a club with Julie, putting up the boyfriend/girlfriend  image for the public. A while in, Ben gets a text from Julie saying to meet her in the bathroom, which is surprisingly clean. Ben finds the stall has a glory hole big enough for his dick. After getting a signal, Ben pushes through and gets hints promised blowjob, but realizes it isn't Julie by the technique used. When he voices this the person on the other end reveals herself to be Jennifer already outfitted with a collar, revealing another Gwen set up. Julie soon arrives and joins in on the star’s deflowering.

Helen Wheels – during a mission Helen and Ben are trapped. As they wait for rescue the two bond. When rescued en route to home, Helen pulls Ben into her room where she proceeds to thank him for all he’s done. Can contain tail worship from Ben and him remarking on how she can run with breasts so big. Sex can be faster than normal.

Eight-Eight – the alien bounty hunter is sent on a mission to seduce Ben. She gets more than she bargained for when it turns out the client is the female Vilgax who plans to add her to Ben’s harem. She has most of her armor removed, mainly around her crotch, boooty, mouthand tits. She keeps her helmet on as a sotoraggian female only shows her full face to whoever she marries. At the end she removes her helmet entirely.

Rook Shar – shar is visiting earth having become a plumber. Ben is assigned to look after her. While staying at a hotel, as Rook didn't want her staying with the criminals there, Shar discovers the internet and porn. She is surprised by this as sex is typically just used for reproduction on her planet. Ben then shows her what she is missing. Given her cat-like nature she can purr when Ben rubs her body.

Drew Saturday – single in this world. Animo makes another attempt to revive Argost. Drew stops him and is stung by a strange poisonous cryptid. Ben shows up and Drew feels herself becoming hot. Turns out the cryptid was a literal love bug, that isn't poisonous, but delivers a powerful aphrodisiac. Ben is reluctant at first, though swayed by her jugs, eventually gives in.

Sunny Tennyson – Sunny is sent to earth by Verdona. She senses Ben, as well as the lust both for and from the girls, and decides to mess with him. Eventually leading to them having sex. During their coitus he calls her Gwen by mistake. This angers her and she proceeds to show why she is better than Gwen, nearly bordering Looma with its how rough she gets.

Sandra – Sandra makes a surprise visit to Ben for some Mother/son bonding for mother’s day. They wind up at a spa. While lounging around in a large private jacuzzi they are joined by Gwen and her mother. Feeling kinky, the mother/daughter duo seduce Ben when Sandra leaves the room for a moment. She walks back in on the group going at it. After some convincing...and denial, she joins.

no new girls, leave some for the rest of the universe man. 

Also do you intend to update Toon Town Tumble any time soon?

[thebooblover]

6 hours ago, Guest Random Fan said:

If it comes to light, maybe as Will Harangue trying to expose Ben as a deviant mind controlling rapist. However, he is thwarted and whatever evidence he has is replaced by something embarrassing.

as for the girls for the premise.

charmcaster – walks in on Gwen and Ben, decides to join. Magically constructed strapons ensue when Charmcaster says she can handle anything Gwen has.

elena – due to the meddling, Elena is not evil and works with the plumbers, mainly fixing Blukic and Driba’s messes. After a frustrating day, she meets up with Ben. They talk, and an old flame ignites. Elena gets back at her halving bosses by taking it while bent over their work bench. As a nanobot human she can tighten her body to her liking, and can make her pussy vibrate, turning herself into a human dick massager.

ester – Ben goes to undertown when he has to stop another Kraaho from melting the city. After the fight she draws Ben back hoping to talk about improving Kraaho image as it's received a bad rep. Given her biology the feeling of her warm skin should be mentioned and how hot her insides are. And her  stretchy limbs could be used for a bizarre reach around.

Viktoria – Viktoria was traveling when she crashes on Earth by accident. She is originally scared out of her mind, being surrounded by monsters, in her POV. However, she warms up to Ben after he agrees to show her around town. She is aware of the looks she gets and becomes self-conscious of how she treats Ben on her planet. Ben comforts her and it leads to sex. With her species Ben could feel a small jolt when they go at it.

Turbine – having gone straight after her first trip to prison, Turbine now manages an auto shop where Ben has to go when his car is damaged in a fight. While there Turbine turns on the charm while she works. When time to pay comes, she says she doesn't want money, but a taste of what her old cell mate Rojo has been getting. They then have sex on the hood of Ben’s car or in the back seat.

Frightwig – Zombozo has stepped up his gam and plans something big. With Frightwig in custody they interrogate her on what it is. She refuses all that Ben tries. Trying to be cute and mess with Ben she flirts with him,trying to make him blush. However, it fails when Ben takes control and starts to, literally, pump her for information, threatening to stop if she doesn't talk. There can be groping with her tentacles, maybe some rougher than normal behavior like hair pulling or spanking.

Jennifer Nocturne – on a night out, Ben goes to a club with Julie, putting up the boyfriend/girlfriend  image for the public. A while in, Ben gets a text from Julie saying to meet her in the bathroom, which is surprisingly clean. Ben finds the stall has a glory hole big enough for his dick. After getting a signal, Ben pushes through and gets hints promised blowjob, but realizes it isn't Julie by the technique used. When he voices this the person on the other end reveals herself to be Jennifer already outfitted with a collar, revealing another Gwen set up. Julie soon arrives and joins in on the star’s deflowering.

Helen Wheels – during a mission Helen and Ben are trapped. As they wait for rescue the two bond. When rescued en route to home, Helen pulls Ben into her room where she proceeds to thank him for all he’s done. Can contain tail worship from Ben and him remarking on how she can run with breasts so big. Sex can be faster than normal.

Eight-Eight – the alien bounty hunter is sent on a mission to seduce Ben. She gets more than she bargained for when it turns out the client is the female Vilgax who plans to add her to Ben’s harem. She has most of her armor removed, mainly around her crotch, boooty, mouthand tits. She keeps her helmet on as a sotoraggian female only shows her full face to whoever she marries. At the end she removes her helmet entirely.

Rook Shar – shar is visiting earth having become a plumber. Ben is assigned to look after her. While staying at a hotel, as Rook didn't want her staying with the criminals there, Shar discovers the internet and porn. She is surprised by this as sex is typically just used for reproduction on her planet. Ben then shows her what she is missing. Given her cat-like nature she can purr when Ben rubs her body.

Drew Saturday – single in this world. Animo makes another attempt to revive Argost. Drew stops him and is stung by a strange poisonous cryptid. Ben shows up and Drew feels herself becoming hot. Turns out the cryptid was a literal love bug, that isn't poisonous, but delivers a powerful aphrodisiac. Ben is reluctant at first, though swayed by her jugs, eventually gives in.

Sunny Tennyson – Sunny is sent to earth by Verdona. She senses Ben, as well as the lust both for and from the girls, and decides to mess with him. Eventually leading to them having sex. During their coitus he calls her Gwen by mistake. This angers her and she proceeds to show why she is better than Gwen, nearly bordering Looma with its how rough she gets.

Sandra – Sandra makes a surprise visit to Ben for some Mother/son bonding for mother’s day. They wind up at a spa. While lounging around in a large private jacuzzi they are joined by Gwen and her mother. Feeling kinky, the mother/daughter duo seduce Ben when Sandra leaves the room for a moment. She walks back in on the group going at it. After some convincing...and denial, she joins.

no new girls, leave some for the rest of the universe man. 

Also do you intend to update Toon Town Tumble any time soon?

Man those are some neat ideas for his fic. If you don’t mind me asking, do you have any suggestions for “How To Train Your Overlord”?

[Praetor]

     I plan to continue Toon Town Tumble at some point but have nothing laid out.  Those are some grade A ideas, got any other suggestions?  and is it the same random fan appearing or is it a different one each time?

[Guest Random Fan]

6 hours ago, Praetor said:

     I plan to continue Toon Town Tumble at some point but have nothing laid out.  Those are some grade A ideas, got any other suggestions?  and is it the same random fan appearing or is it a different one each time?

WE ARE LEGION!! Seriously, I don't know, and I do for Overlord. As follows

Elsa/Anna – the Vikings arrive in arendele(?) a few days before the coronation. Hiccup senses Elsa’s ice magic and the memories wiped from both her and Anna. Hiccup, having heard from Gnarl that surprising such powers do more harm than good, restores both their memories and helps Elsa learn to control her powers. In the end, she is successfully crowned, with her declaring Hiccup as her betrothed for helping with her powers. Hans challenges this, fights Hiccup, and loses. He then goes into the castle to claim her, with Anna joining in half way through.

Merida – Hiccup shows up just as Merida runs off to the witch. He convinces her to not do anything dumb, using his own experiences with his own father.  She agrees and at the contest for her hand, they are attacked by the demon bear, the bear from the movie, only an actual demon, which follows Hiccup as it was created by a previous Overlord. With Hiccup defeatin it, Merida claims Hiccup as her new husband. If anyone argues… they have to,face the bear.

Elinor – Elinor has felt lonely in her years, her husband killed by the bear years before. She overhears a night between Hiccup and her daughter. Merida also feels her mother is under appreciated for all she does, so she give Hiccup permission to claim her, this case right on the table.

Rapunzel – during a test, Hiccups group runs into Flynn (aka Eugene) and the brothers. Flynn tries to charm his way out, but Ruffnut and Astrid, or another girl, breaks his smolder, as said in the movie. Hiccup finds Rapunzel’s tower, and the captured girl, he offers to show her the world. Rapunzel meets the harem girls and learns of Hiccup’s skills. Her curiosity gets the better of her and she spends the night in the tower. The hair should be used, probably pulled. Pascal and the dragons meeting should be mentioned and probably funny.

Mother Gothel – Gothel returns to the tower and is grabbed by the Vikings. The group has learned of the lanterns and her heritage. Gothel tries to seduce Hiccup, but it turns on her. Now her youth is linked to Hiccup. If he dies she ages into dust.

Queen Arianna – when Rapunzel is returned, a large ball. She sees her daughter’s reaction and is reminded of how cold her husband became after their daughter went missing. After the ball, Hiccup is invited to the queen’s bedchambers.

Snow White- while walking through the forests towards the next kingdom the come across the glass coffin guarded by the seven dwarves. With some magic, Hiccup breaks the curse. Snow is somewhat wary at first, but she gradually warms up to his kind nature. The dwarves and Gobber talking could be interesting.

Queen Grimhilde – Grimhilde is enraged when she learns Snow is still alive. She uses her magic mirror to find her and learns about Hiccup, and makes aplan to get her, ignoring her mirro’s warnings about doing so. She successfully manages to seduce Hiccup, but her attempt o assassinate him and steal his powers is thwarted by Gothel, who helps break the evil queen in.

Aurora/Maleficent– Maleficent took much different steps to earn her reign. Instead of using a sleep curse, she drains the three good fairies of their magic, and she captures Aurora and keeps her in a dark fortress that the Vikings and their new numbers seize. After saving Aurora she promises herself to him, if he saves her kingdom. hiccup and his army meet and battle Maleficent, who takes her dragon form and nearly takes control of the dragon horde if not for Toothless. After a long hard battle, Hiccup pin she herr down with and iron beam, forcing her to surrender. That night, the kingdom celebrates its new emperor. Later, Hiccup clam s his latest mistresses.

Tiana/LaBouff – soon after taking Maleficent, the tower heart points the direction to a port town controlled by the mad Voodoo priest Facilier. Hiccup goes to the village intending to take Facilier’s power for himself. However, he is captured by the mad man’s shadows and turned into a frog. He is saved by Tiana, facilier’s personal cook, and LaBouff, Facilier’s forced bride.they agree to help Hiccup, if he can stop the mad priest. Together they shatter his amulet, returning Hiccup to normal, and freeing the town. As thanks LaBouff and Tiana willingly go with Hiccup to help him take over the town, and the people are Fonda of their new ruler. Eventually, Tiana put some on the charm leading to the making a bit of a mess in Tiana’s kitchen where LaBouff joins on the fun. Playing with food could be used here.

at this point Hiccup has developed an empire. The Dark Empire, and word of a new overlord has spread.

Daughters of Triton – when a merchant comes selling oddities, Hiccup finds himself intrigued. Now imagine his shock when live mermaids are on display, seeing the merchant cruelly treat the, Hiccup steals the girls. They are at first scared even Ariel, but kindness goes a long way. aftsr sometime passes, the girls exit their tank showing that their tails turn to legs on dry land (Pirates of the Caribbean: Stranger Tides). They then hank Hiccup for helping them...one by one.

 Vanessa - playing the part of a scheming woman, Vanessa attempts to seduce Hiccup by posing as a simple maid. However, one night she spikes his drink with a potent aphrodisiac, intent on creating an heir to the empire that she intends to control. Unfortunately, as sh e brags and boasts Hiccup. Runs through the drug and turns the tables on her, right out on the balcony.

Mulan – lost, alone, and tired, Mulan is saved by a passing Astrid, who brings her the to the Dark Empire. After wRming up, she tells her stories, of how the army left her to rot after she saved their lives, and was essentially exiled from her family, despite her intentions. She, reluctantly, becomes a servant to the Overlord hoping to gain a place to stay, eventually earning a place in Hiccup’s bed.

Cinderella – with her prince mistakenly marrying one of her step sisters, Cinderella is sent as an emissary to the Empire which hops to form an alliance, at his side than his path, as they say. Cinderella soon becomes Hiccups newest Mistress and earns a higher point of power than her blasted sister. Eat that evil step mom...whose name I never bothered to learn.

Belle – on the run from the beast after his rage at her, she stumbles across a hunting Toothless who takes her away. She is cared for at the Dark Empire, where she finds solace in a massive library. She eventually comes across a a book of explicit nature that piques her interest, and decides to use the very skilled Hiccup as a test subject. Not sure what happens to beast, but give him a good ending with the curse lifted.

Bimbettes – on a stroke of pure luck Gastonia manages to Killarney dragon, but draws the ire of a nearby nest. With Toothless and Hiccup arriving to save the town. Gaston, seeing a chance for power, decides to go afterHiccup to try and claim his throne and women. It end in on punch, and Hiccup revealing it was Gaston’s fault for the dragon attack. With their love, obsession, now dragged through the mud, the bimbettes, Claudette, Laurette, and Paulette, go after Hiccup, who is not as obsessed with one woman. This could lead to a sexy guessing game, to see if he can pick out which triplet is which while naked.

Fifi – having left beast’s castle Fifi is on her own. After finding Belles old town, and Belle herself, she is given a job as a maid in Hiccup’s main castle. This leads to the classic maid in a sexy outfit cleaning, and gets railed by master situation.

As for TTT:

this can be a simple chapter, with round 2. Protagonist wakes up to find himself in Jessica’s place with the toon red head asleep next to him. Slightly hung over he goes to the bathrooom to try and clam up. However, notices something's is off when he sees this reflection, he immediately freaks out. His body is completely changed with cartoonish muscles handsome face and smooth hair. Hearing the scream Jessica comes in, wonderingly of her partner hurt himself and is left drooling in two ways with a cartoonish comical reaction. Immediately, with her loins on fire she jumps him, much to his surprise. They go at it harder than before, now able enjoy it by not being intoxicated, and notices he now has toonish strength, stamina, and speed, and even a few physics altering abilities. After nearly going at it until lunch time, the two are completely spent. Soon after, he moves in, quits his job, dumps his cheating girlfriend, and, with help from Jessica, is looking into job interviews at a local human/toon studio. 

 

[Praetor]

     The angle I was going for was the Kingdoms are already in a sort of Dark Empire headed by the likes of Maleficent and Gothel.  Hiccup is mostly restoring the Princesses to their thrones while taking them into his harem, while also taking the evil queens as concubines.  The protagonist of T³  shouldn't become cartoonish himself, but he does become a more Captain America looking man and break into their movie industry.

[Guest Random Fan]

3 hours ago, Praetor said:

     The angle I was going for was the Kingdoms are already in a sort of Dark Empire headed by the likes of Maleficent and Gothel.  Hiccup is mostly restoring the Princesses to their thrones while taking them into his harem, while also taking the evil queens as concubines.  The protagonist of T³  shouldn't become cartoonish himself, but he does become a more Captain America looking man and break into their movie industry.

Ok, they were just suggestions. And the former for TTT, it’s just he gains a greater physique as a side effect of the viagra, and he does get a little cartoonish

[Praetor]

     After a lengthy journey of self discovery and lot of procrastination, I have returned!  A whole new story fresh out of the forge for my half dozen fans, another thebooblover challenge.  Spellbound, a Beast Boy harem fic.  So kind of like Omniharem but in Teen Titans.  See what I mean?  They just feel too alike to me.  I don’t feel like it’s my strongest work but anyways, you be the judge.  The next update will likely be Naruko’s Pact.  Thank you for your patience and thanks for reading.

[Guest Curious]

Inde dotare übertrieben oppai y libidine means what exactly?

[Praetor]

     It’s literally nonsense created by running words through Google Translate.  I don’t have the skills in linguistics required to make up a suitably mystical Eldritch language so I just did that.  Inde Dotare means something like ‘endow with’ in Latin, ubertrieben meaning ‘exaggerated’ in German, oppai simply means ‘boobs’ in Japanese but usually refers to particularly large ones.  Y is used like ‘and’ in Spanish and libidine meaning ‘lust’ in Latin.

[Guest guest, maybe writer.]

hmmmm. there’s an idea i had for kingdom hearts you could probably use. what if, when maleficent and gothel lose the princesses, they  punish their agents (the princes or villains, whichever you want)by turning them into replacement princesses for whatever their plan is, giving you more concubines to work with.

 

i like the idea of an attempt at seducing him backfiring, maybe vanessa comes in as a double-bluff? that is to say tries to seduce him, but with orders to join as a spy should he fail to fall for it.

 

If i may build of of random fan’s suggestions, the ideas are nice, but i’ve some twists to possibly think about, mostly to add structure to hiccup’s forces and variety to relations. i feel fleshing them out (pun not intended) in different directions, would allow for different character interactions and allow for a longer read without getting stale. and more girl/girl scenes. just saying

Mulan

I personally hate ‘bertrayal’ for the sake of drama, though i understand if you want to go that way, but what if instead of being cast out by china, mulan FAILED to save her kingdom from the dark empire, and is seeking reinforcements to free what’s left. she could be the one to inform him of what’s happening, and could prove herself as a warrior against the vikings. next thing you know, she (and maybe astrid and mala, though she’s more the high general to their first lady and fief-lord) training the vikings as the head of hiccups armies.

she’s greatful to hiccup, but she’s too shaken by her loss (shang) to fall for him right away and needs time, so mostly she’s just there for an allegiance of convenience. she refuses to bed him for a while out of practicality (need to keep a warrior figure), until she both ACTUALLY falls for him and astrid proves to her that it‘s no obstacle.

for extra fun, they could mistake her for a man for a while and hiccup could joke about no-one mistaking her for a man again after her transformation, and mulan could initially express surprise that women are allowed to fight in viking armies (she’s probably be the better hand-to hand fighter though).

cinderella.

pretty good idea with the political angle, can’t think of anything at the moment other than maybe her aunt and sisiters running the slave market.

Either way, my take would be she slowly works her way up the ranks from personal servant, to friend, to a pillar of support to the girls. To the point where they insist to hiccup that he go make her family pay. they’re surprised by her work ethic, patience, ability to be useful (she was pretty self reliant, she just was under extraordinarily unfair circumstances) and horrified by the way her family treated her (not making her do chores per se as that’s fairly normal for vikings, but the forcing them to do them over and over and blatantly unnecessary ones and favouritism.) in other words, she accidentally charms her way up the FEMALE side of the heriarchy. She helps them out and is very usefull, but also provides a lot of support and is suprisingly able to relate to a lot of their problems and help them keep up their spirits. as such she helps ease new girls into the ‘team’ so to speak, before their ready for hiccup

not sure where she would fit into the ruling structure overall.

Ariel

ariel is, naturally, the rightful queen of the mermaids, but she doesn’t know since her father and his people fled the early stages of the empire. for the sake of his children, he hid among the populace and swore the few of his daughters that found out to secrecy. When her dad became sick, ariel went to look for help and her sisters soon went looking for her/to keep her safe. ironically she wound up keeping them alive for years outside home. Ariel could be the eldest and thus first in line, or her take-charge actions and leadership among her sisters could have some force label her the true ruler, possibly sister vote

they were caught by a huntsman (gaston, he’s be a good anti-hiccup figure) who was looking for the mermaid ruler as a hostage and bargaining chip, but since she didn’t know she was instead sold to a slave market. hiccup rescues her out of shock, at both the concept of slave markets (i don’t know if that fits the overlord thing or if vikings had slaves) and the sight of mermaids. vanessa is part of the auction (as part of the sales team) and tries to seduce her way to hiccup’s good graces, see above. she fails and is made a maidservant to the mermaids

Ariel acts as a scout (survival skills and ability to navigate water-ways and pipes), navigator for his ships (excellent oceanography skills), sea hunter or messenger (quick and stealthy, perfect for multi-force communication with no detectable magic) for him for a while and has a slowly growing crush on hiccup until one of her sisters blabs that she’s the ruler. they go to her father and fins the truth, and he dies leaving her the crown, so she proposes a marriage of nations to hiccup, becoming part of his bed (with her sisters each pledging themselves) and his head of naval/nautical affairs. this should begin fairly early and take time to unravel, giving her time to fall in love with him and giving you a large national power with unequalled control of the sea as a game-changer to use when needed

vanessa continues to sneak and spy, but is limited by the amount of surveillance on her and cannot find out give away everything to her masters, gothel and maleficent

Tiana/charlotte labouf

tiana could take charge of his kitchens, not be his cook per se but have enough professional pride in her work as a chef that she HAS to see it done right, and she feels powerful there. She’s even assertive enough to argue with the overlord in her kitchens (NOBODY questions the chef, though reluctance to be taken advantage of as with fallicer is also part of it), and hiccup allows it because fallicer’s attitude was disturbing and understand why she refuses to go there again.

Charlotte labouf joins as her waiter or sous-chef, and while she’s greatful to hiccup she’s more concerned with following tiana, the friend she went through think and thin with and has taken more than a shine too and can;t admit. she could ask for hiccup’s blessing first, but in a twist she wants it to get tiana’s attention, and is naturally grateful enough to join him anyway after.

tiana and cinderella are fond of friendly competition, due to similar interests and background.

 

Merida and Elinor

Merida could be a ranger-figure, spent some time in the woods and having built up her wilderness survival skills, after having run away from her marriage and the bear killing her father. Shecould have spent the a few years having hunted the bears (them being demons or forces of the empire is great, she hasn’t found THE bear yet), and having turned into a wild-girl figure as a consequence. a raised-by wolves type, or even more of a serious ‘lad-ette’ and roughhouser.

she’s wary of hiccup because he’s another suitor to her, preferring the company of the girls (which they tease him for) until he earns her respect by helping her find and kill the bear. the witch helps with cryptic advice, recognising hiccup, hinting at a great destiny and directing him where to go. they take her back to her castle, where her mother is waiting for her and have a tearful reuinion, before the real bear (a demon sent by the empire, glowing with fey magic) show up and they kill it. merida chooses her husband, goes from there.

Having proven herself an unparraleled hunter, wilderness survivalist and ranger she becomes Hiccup’s head scout/ranger, as vikings are not naturally stealthy. even the ones that can manage are nowhere near as good as her. 

Elinor becomes an advisor, giving hiccup age-granted wisdom, (as does valka, and arianna later). when merida insists on taking the fight to the empire she stays to manage the kingdom, but communicates with them via an enchanted tapestry the with gave them as a present (under the pretence of fine blankets, which confused hiccup), one of a few. before they leave however, merida encourages hiccup to ‘comfort’, her

snow white

….. not sure what i can do without drastically re-writing the basis o her character at the moment. give me time. though the though of dwarves in viking gear or viking miners is awesome

Belle and fifi

belle IS found by toothless, but she’s been looking after the castle after the beast was turned to stone and stolen. she’s been spending ages combing the library for a cure and way to find him, and has become quite the learned scholar in the meantime. fifi is the only servant left, the rest (and most of the villagers, the rest fearing the ‘witch’ in the castle) having turned to stone and spirited away as well, and as a result fifi has become something of her familiar/best friend.

she invites them to stay after growing fond of toothless when he first shows up (and bonding with hiccup over nerdery, they compare the sketches they made) in the hopes that one of them will know something. Beast’s castle and the town below becomes his HQ for a while, and he places a tapestry that lets him talk with belle and ask her to research things when needed or just talk….. and it turns out he can send himself through the tapestries as well, allowing him to ‘surprise’ belle and elinor when he finds out. between what she, ariel, elinor and mulan know hiccup is beginning to understand what’s going on. no-one has the full picture yet though.

gaston tracks them down and tries to lead a force of….. evil minions or demons, whatever works, to take back the princesses. belle lures him into the mansion and traps him, by telling the vikings the ways to take and secret paths to flank and surround his forces. they try to interrogate him, but the dark empire summons him away, not to save him but to punish him for his failure, turning him into a shapely bimbo like the girls he coveted(doesn’t help that he tried to seduce his way out of it, REALLY ticking them off).

Belle is very flirty and cerebral, fond of wordplay and quiet reading, as hiccup finds he is too. she becomes his head of archives and helps educate the vikings better., She often asks if he can new books in the places he goes. she sees hiccup as someone she can really connect with who understands her, plus he’s just the kind of excitement she always wanted, though she’s conflicted about her feelings for him and beast.

fifi’s curse is eventually broken with some lucky breakthroughs, and she continues her duties to belle willingly. she retains the ability to turn into her feather-duster form,which lets her fly and fit into small spaces (or go unnoticed). she’s very tactile after regaining her sense of touch, and develops a habit of draping herself over belle, particularly when speaking to her or trying to push her and hiccup closer together, which she does with great enthusiasm. He’s sure to thank her when he gets the opportunity. she’s belle’s servant though, not hiccups, and her mistress comes first.

Elsa/anna

The sisters show up in belle’s kingdom looking for help for arendale, but dressed as beggars and with obvious holes in their memories. they can’t recall a lot, but the empire invaded  arendale and hans lead a resistance along with the monarchy (that they can’t remember), then helped put the kingdom back together  but rumours began to creep in calling them witches and spies and they were cast out by the neighbouring kingdoms. soon after they heard tell that the kingdom was taken and went to get help. Naturally they don’t remember being rulers, as they’ve been living as outcasts for a while and are under a spell to keep them out. when asked, they agree gaps in their memories begin after they were cast out, though anna admits she’s blurry on a few early things. naturally, bad guys are out hunting them as they were supposed to be captured, not cast out (hans was a mole of course, and erased them to secure the throne in a way that couldn’t be traced. he being petty and self serving, his bosses aren’t happy)

Elsa is very sick (she shivers a lot is very cold and peple keeps finding frost in the rooms she’s been in), and anna has been taking care of her, in her own naive way, with elsa providing what advice she can. They have a nice dynamic of support, but are obsiously in a lot of stress since they panic when seperated. On the way there, they notice she has magic and is under a spell, and suspect anna does too, and following gnarl’s advice release it and their memories with the aid of belle’s books. anna is startled at her sister’s secret, but overjoyed at actually having a childhood and proud of her sister, elsa is shocked at being the queen and nearly killing her sister. bonding and healing, probably worked into learning to control her powers.

Elsa is pracical and proper, worried about arendale and talks with hiccup on how to run a kindom. she’s very protective of her sister, and nervous about her new, strange circumstances, but recognises the  need for his aid. She finds comfort by sitting in at hiccup’s overlord rulings and advising. Hiccup slowly wins her over by being there for her and giving personal support. she recalls how hans only gave her practial support and utilities, which helps her appreciate it more. however she thinks anna is falling for him and thinks he’d be good for her, so she decides to let it happen.

Anna is much more sociable, talking to the men and taking an interest, quickly winning them over with her friendly enthusiasm. The vikings and merida even give her some basic training, which gives her an idea. While she apparently has no magic of her own, as a show of support anna goes to belle and the witch for resources and throws her all into developing magic of her own.  her magic is warm and playful, and good for making things grow or making them stronger (representing summer or spring). she too quickly bonds with and admires hiccup.

When they get there hans is, of course, ruling under the empire’s flag. the sisters speak with hiccup, since the guards and soldiers are there own, just brain-washed, they have to be clever about taking it back. the girls (vikings and princess alike) and hiccup  swoop in and seize the city, capturing the guards before they can attack and taking them all alive. the sisters and hiccup confront hans and take back kingdom, and the two’s combined power is enough to raise the spells on their city. as a result, hiccup gets the entire force of arendale as an ally (and later, as part of his rule)

After regaining arendale, anna eagerly encourages elsa to marry him, insisting that she’s done enough for her. both sisters quietly ask hiccup to marry the other for their sake, and he agrees to both. Elsa and Anna continue to hone their magic, taking turns running arendale or advising and lending their powers to hiccup (using the tapestries). they become known as the ‘summer and winter queens’

for bonus points, it could turn out magic is extremely tantric, requiring a lot of one-on-one time with each of the girls for ‘magic blessings’ or together for the curse-breaking. it fits what’s been established, and would allow some fun awkwardness.

aurora rose/rapunzel

I got something special for the last two princesses, Gothel’s been raising them as her daughters and keeping them safe in a large castle/foretress in the middle of a massive clearing in a dark forest. the ‘dangers’ she protects them from surrounding the kingdom are acutally her defenses and armies, and the castle is under hevy illusion. the two are unaware not only that they are her prisoners, not daughters, but that she is using both of them for power. maleficent is gothel’s familiar…. and is manifesting THROUGH aurora, DC’s enchantress-style, with her being completely unaware.

Rapunzel is very curious about the outside world and endlessly creative and friendly, with her traditional sun-healing powers and invincible hair. when they show up at the castle she’s overjoyed to have visitors and immediatly tries to make them welcome.

her ‘sister’ aurora is more cautious and patient, and has powerful fey magics bestowed to her by her godparents to protect her. these let her dictate the growth and decay of plants and command fairies, though she doesn’t realise. she beleives maleficent is an imaginary friend, and the evil fairy is admittedly somewhat fond of her

Gothel and maleficent cannot break the protection these powers give, so they’ve been siphoning it to furl their own powers and further their scheme, using the other princesses for i don’t know.

when they are finally rescued and told the truth, they join (possibly helping him overthrow their captors) and hiccup claims the castle as his throneroom (rapunzel is quite fond of anna), adding their considerable power to his (possibly becoming spring and fall queens). their power, combined with anna’s, acts as a restorative wave breaking the dark power as well as returning maleficent, gothel, valka, elinor and arianna to true youth and stripping them of their powers, granting maleficent a true body as well (original, Angelina Jolie or a combination, you choose). rapunzel and aurora still love their mother and ‘imaginary friend’ enough to beg for their lives, and hiccup makes them concubines a punishment.

with their powers, and the various princess hiccup reigns eternal

 

are we using jasmine?

Jasmine

if so, i have an idea. during the slave-market, hiccup picks up a lamp. he keeps hearing whispers on it and gnarl notices a seal. they give it to belle to practise breaking spells, and her succeeding in breaking the lamp-seal is what teaches her to break the spell on fifi, elsa and anna.

Inside is a genie, but not just any genie, jasmine. she’s grateful but begs his further help, as she too has had her kingdom usurped, though concedes that arendale is much easier to reach. they talk on the way their, her explaining to hiccup that the royal visor ‘jafar’ killed her father, turned her into a genie and sealed her into the lamp to clear the path to the throne.

she has powerful magic, but little experience and cannot do much with it unless wished, and she can only give three wishes before her lamp is lost to a master. Hiccup agrees to wait before using the wishes, and jasmine agrees to try what she can without them. They talk, hiccup asks what it’s like, jasmine says it’s horrible and talks about how constricting it is and the things jafar made her do. Hiccup muses on how great the being a genie would seem, mentions that he bets jafar has probably alway wanted to be in her shoes as a ruler and probably still does as a genie. jasmine briefly muse on what sh’d do to him if he WAS in her shoes.

she help elsa and anna train her magic. she’s not got much experience, but jafar kept her around for a while, so she has SOME practice. or hiccup wishes she could

when they do get to agrabah, they manage to trick jafar into what i think is some pretty good karma. every read ‘jafar’s nasty spells’? it’s something of an inversion, they trick him into wishing he was the ‘true ruler of agrabah’, or hiccup just wishes he was, and jasmine immediately gets what he means. jafar is turned into the ‘true ruler of agrabah’, a copy of jasmine, forced to carry out her will and acts as her voice, completely subservient to her will, giving jasmine a way of ruling her kingdom even stuck as a genie. hiccup takes advantage of this to ‘punish’ jafar, then releases jasmine. she can’t grant wishes anymore, but is still very powerful if inexperienced , can fly and can have her legs back when she wants them now. 

[thebooblover]

On 5/11/2018 at 11:31 AM, Guest guest, maybe writer. said:

are we using jasmine?

I was thinking of adding her (and the harem girls from Aladdin as well) to the list on the challenge

These are some neat ideas, i wonder if Praetor will use (any of) them. 

Do you also have suggestions for the new skimpier outfits the girls could be wearing after joining Hiccup? 

[Praetor]

     Saw it, forgot to reply.  I completely failed to realize Jasmine was not on the original challenge and had every intention of using her.  In one of the earliest drafts, Hiccup eventually modelled his harem after the one he found in the Sultan’s palace.  I’d rather use Shantae as the genie if I ran that arc.  I am still figuring out the tone for the rest of the story.  I kind of want to do a Dark Souls like setting where it’s a crap sack world already and Hiccup may even be a better dark ruler than they already have, with the princesses lost, hiding or captured.  Or if there should simply be a war in progress and the princesses still in power and merely need assistance against the forces of evil.  Or a more Kingdom Hearts like thing where no one is really in any immediate grave danger and Hiccup is just visiting and helping out.  Which one I go with determines specifics on the harem girls’ encounters and role in the empire.  Are you suggesting gender flipping the Princes and Villains to make concubines?  I was thinking of having Hiccup give the ugly step sisters and other minor villains huge busts and butts and making them be camp followers for his men.

[Guest Guest, maybe writer]

I was indeed suggesting genderbending, as a tool for gothel to both get rid of enemies and punish underlings. this way you can have a lot of the more interesting princes and better relationships without breaking the theme, by having the princes become ervants, companions etc to the princesses eventually. a lot of them don;t really have that much of a personality, but it’s best not to waste good characters for the ones that do. and you’ve probably seen some good genderbend art. it also keeps the eroticism alive more while still maintaining stakes, so you’re nor thinking about the grim demise of her canon husband while it happens. it’s likey kissing with an imaginary corpse in the room, very off-putting. instead you’ve got a somewhat silly but still threatening villain who actually adds to the atmosphere

 

also, gives you people for the other named vikings. I approve of the sisters idea, though Anastasia does break free of her mother and marry a baker becoming less of a villain, so if you want a girl for fishlegs she might be a good choice. he’s pretty similar and a nice guy

 

I would reccomend the kingom hearts route myself with a heavy emphasis on an UNKOWN war breaking out, mostly because darksouls bleakness would be unappealing and very quickly kill any eroticism. you know the heroes are going to win, but when you write like that you can very quickly kill empathy for the characers, which is critically important for writing. not just harem stories, but writing in general. I don;t read game of thrones, for example, because i left it too late and can;t really get involved in a book which brags about killing all the people you invest in. I get enough of that from DC thank you (no seriously dan didio actually thinks that way). not to mention the tone implies that you’ll yank and satisfactory ending away at any point.

 

Not without ANY drama though. the way i see it, the kingdom hearts idyllic cosiness is there, but the war is on the horizon, in the next country over, say. they can puch it back, but they WILL have to venture there eventually. like so many stories (harry potter, dresden files, deltora quest, rwby, one peice) the war is there, and it’s been going on longer than you know, but it’s something you can prevent from spreading further, and something a lot of people don;t know about. it also allows a nice, controlled unrolling of the plot and introduction of new elements, and allows a nice difficulty curve wit time for breaks to prevent people getting overwhelmed and losing interest. darkness-induced audience apathy is the last thing you want in a stroy about growing enormous breasts and gathering women.

 

also, just remembered another idea for a character; cassandra from tangled the series as rapunzel’s personal guard/maid and a dissenter to gothel who’s only going along because she’s magicked too, and to report on the girls. Eugene/flynn, not femenized YET (not till they need somone to punish for some reason, then he’s replaced with his ‘sister’), is also there as a ‘playmate neighbour’ or servant of some description as punishment for trying to break in. Rapunzel doesn’t realise, because gothel, under maleficent’s advice, set up a small-town narrative to keep them distracted and contained, but it’s not enough and the girls dream of seeing more. Rapunzel thinks they’re into each other (they’re both into her, doesn’t hurt that she asks cassandra to help her change innocently and is very sweet overall) and trying to make implied ways of working it out, without realising they have to follow her orders. maybe cassandra is a fairy in this. she’d make a good reluctant spy.

[Guest Guest, maybe writer]

to continue the war presence thing, it’s like mulan, you walk through the peace hear some rumblings, then relative peace and some scars (the burnt village in mulan, Dunbroch in this case) before you get to the war. plus it allows you to pace the changes of setting, keeping you immersed in the world and not jarring you with changes in the supposed year. easing into it helps a lot.

 

hey, even the enemy needs time to rest. and believe me, nothing kills interest like “this happens, then immediately this happens, then immediately this happens, then immediately this happens and so on”. Dragonball and Worm are good examples of how to do it if you have to, every storyline flows into the next, but they always have downtime for the characters and reader to prepare, even if it’s technically already started.

[Guest Guest, maybe writer]

as for outfits. i was thinking mostly medieval-to-viking era veriosn of their clothes, to keep the setting going. erotic wear would be out of place…. except for cinderella, a tailor and their servant. you could mention them visiting her for custom clothes, and hint at things with ‘a visit to cinderella’. it would also give another reason for them to include her. bear in mind these are not casual or practical wear, just for when they want to catch hiccups attention alone. they’d change out of it when they want to do something.

Mulan could wear her soldier armour, then relax into her robes casually. for later, I’d reccomend a men’s shirt, since it has buttons that can strain better and provide cleavage, though a dress could give a great view from the side. or just one of those bare-shoulders and neck shirts you see in art of her and a short skirt. both practical for combat. she doesn need armour though, as she isn;t one to avoid fighting

Merida would wear very little but a green cloak, a belt with some puches and camouflage, maybe paint maybe tattoos. her long hair means hiccup doesn’t realise at first, and it catches him off-guard. after coming home, she wears her dress or a while, then dresses like a male viking the first chance she gets, banadges instead of a shirt, little hip coverage more than a loincloth, some high fur boots and armlets. it’s practical in a sense, since she’f have an easier time sneaking like that and she can control her recent ‘gains’, but you can also play the bandages erotically. also the cloak. mulan would also likely have the bandages, they could teach each other, and this could be the thing that she uses to let herself be convinced to join the bedroom.

for seduction tiana gets her apron. so does charlotte. just the apron, maybe some white and black chocolate. you could have a nice scene of them trying charlotte’s various dresses on to decide (wich charlotte loves) before going with the one that’s her. she’s probably wear a full unifrom in the kitchen though (possibly a short skirt one, which the apron holding on as tigh as it can), chef’s are prone to burns. you could pay lipservice to her skill in not getting them after the growth spurt, or have charlotte reach hot things to her mouth for her. or both

ariel…. well she’s good really. she has the shells, and that’s it. outside of it she could wear an armour-tail thing, like the armoured equivalent to a loincloth (leaving room for her to grow legs and maybe shoulder-pads. she’s a scout, she doen’t need much, it’s slow her down. she could get something a bit more ornate for royalty, but mermaid’s don’t really wear much, so maybe some dull bracelets and a small crown or circlet. for caual seduction-wear, shell-bra, sarong with shell-hips

cinderella, i did some looking and this looks nice, https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/294634000592960973

still can;t think of anything for snow white.

for belle, she’s dress a lot like a scholar or librarian, and have reading glasses.. for seducing hiccup, she;d wear her blue apron-dress with nothing underneath and a very short skirt, possibly with leggings. joke idea, some books fall off a shelf after her transformation and land in her cleavage when she can;t catch them. she remarks how convenient it is and maybe uses it as a reading desk and study pillow, after you show it being inconvenient as mentioned above to others.

fifi/babte wears her maid uniform. with leggings instead of pants. and feather’s from her duster just hinting along some edges. he likes to tease her new master by ‘forgetting’ it when she transforms to a human and flashing by bending over

jasmine wears her top, with see-through genie pants and her wrap. hiccup is tempted to pull it and see if it comes off

elsa when seducing hiccup, wears her blue dress, with tears in the sides to see her legs. after her ezpansion, the dress, being made of ice, is transperent and stretched enough to let you see her figure, like this https://anime-pictures.net/pictures/view_post/437980?lang=en but completely…. unless it’s not hiccup wathcing then she changes it. she can hide her fiugre better by mentally tightening her dress.when she needs too. and hiccup finds her undoing that very sexy, particularly when she just lets her dress rip off. anna either wears this https://www.pinterest.com.au/pin/205617539216176030/ or after getting magic gets a dress made of leaves, ala ashi to match elsa’s ice: jay-marvel.tumblr.com/post/160132280623/ashi-from-samurai-jack-season-5 or maybe flowers or light ors someting. personally, i could see her just wearing a very big shirt, or a travelers hood. it’s very her.

rapunzel could have a ndist problem to tease cassandra and eugene and think nothing of it, being mostly raised by fairies.

not sue about arura, but maleficant could be cloathed in darkness made cloth, looking like this andrewandavid.blogspot.com.au/2012/01/sexy-maleficent-does-not-give-one.html

 

on the subject of forgotten characters? di you leave anyone else out? moana? pohcahontas? alice? i don;t want to overcrowd it, we’ve got a good number, but i am curious.

[Guest Guest, maybe writer]

um, to clarify the elsa thing, i mean transparent enough you sort of see everything. until she wants it not to

[Guest Guest, maybe writer]

I also had an idea for your big hero 6 fic if you want to hear it