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42063 … and being flushed can mean either to cause a modern commode to empty itself or a synonym for blushing.  Or, I suppose that if you have a ‘dookie fetish,’ it could be both at the same time.  😉
 

It’s time for Kirksey, KY 42054!

Hi, all.
You can edit a “double-version” of a story manually.  @Desiderius Price just happens to be good at writing a lot of things beyond prose, so he plays to his strengths.
Unless you’re going for “fanservice in every bite,” you can “porn-up” or “porn-down” most writing, most of the time, if the setting of your story allows for sex at all.  The exceptions happen when either the very existence of the story hinges on a “questionable” circumstance, or the happenings of the story “demand” explicit descriptions.  Not enough sex, follow them into the shower/bedroom/etc.  Too much sex, “fade to black” and pick it back up when they’re basking in the afterglow.  You can also change the “impact” of a sex scene by either providing the reason for it, denying the reason for it, or making it obvious that there is no reason for it.
Cheers!

Writing creative stories was a learned thing…. I’ve been playing with software too in support of the writing habit.
And yep, writing two different versions illustrates this.  (I was considering three at the start of this revision, but realized that’d be way, way too complicated.)  Because it quickly becomes more than simply “porn-up” vs “port-down”.  I’ve relegated entire scenes/chapters/plot-threads to explicit side only because it’s either 1) high sexual, or 2) theme/thread is more than I want in cleaner, or 3) mental gymnastics to a particular scene/chapter are such that it became super complicated to write mix, so I simply wrote explicit only and not bother with clean, or 4) the cleaner version, because it’s now shorter in length, would effectively “dwell” there too long for pacing.
In the start, it was light differences too.  For instance, the initial scene, while I do make it clear even in clean that Ron’s starkers when Ginny tricks him down to the living room (with a stiffy), and Professor McGonagall comes to the Weasley home to talk with Ron; in the explicit I’ve got Fred cursing Ron’s cock into an ejaculation – aside from the embarrassment to Ron, a mild difference.   A theme that’s explicit is Ginny’s sense of entitlement to Harry (Harry’s got a different girl), so this is where I’ve got a scene of Ginny secretly using a magical vibrator (that also conceals her) while viewing a nearby starkers Harry, pleasuring herself. 
However, the biggest difference is the role that Ash plays.  Ash’s an original character I created, a first year (when Harry’s year six), as a foil to Harry helping Oliver Wood in teaching those first years’ flying lesson.  Ash...has issues.  And after a short bit in both, became clear chapters later that one way Ash coped with those issues is to go around his business in Hogwarts, starkers.  While that’s fun and all to write, Ash’s mostly been banished to the explicit version only; however, he’s invaluable as I realized he’s filling in what had been a weak point of my story (affairs inside Hogwarts became more and more “diminished” as Harry is suspended for weeks/months).
The differences quickly compound beyond simple “porn up” vs “porn down”.  It’s to the point where there’s spots where I’ve got like eight good chapters in explicit to one light one in cleaner.  Right now, the word ratio is running close to 3:1 between the two versions.

Hi, all.
You can edit a “double-version” of a story manually.  @Desiderius Price just happens to be good at writing a lot of things beyond prose, so he plays to his strengths.
Unless you’re going for “fanservice in every bite,” you can “porn-up” or “porn-down” most writing, most of the time, if the setting of your story allows for sex at all.  The exceptions happen when either the very existence of the story hinges on a “questionable” circumstance, or the happenings of the story “demand” explicit descriptions.  Not enough sex, follow them into the shower/bedroom/etc.  Too much sex, “fade to black” and pick it back up when they’re basking in the afterglow.  You can also change the “impact” of a sex scene by either providing the reason for it, denying the reason for it, or making it obvious that there is no reason for it.
Cheers!

Yeah, I can’t put in the effort to do something like that. Which is why I separate them out and do more explicit stuff separate from narrative driven cleaner stuff.

Though that might even be changing. I have ideas about putting some of the explicit chapters from my narrative driven content up on this platform.

I find that while writing both versions simultaneously can be challenging, it also hones both of them.  Sometimes I write something in the explicit and realize it’d be good (with light cleanup) in the cleaner version.  Other times, it flows back – definitely does when it comes to an extra proofreading step, because I have to check both versions.  As to how I do this… made a bit of software to make the whole process way easier, I annotate what’s explicit and what’s not, when there’s a difference.

I had other reasons personally. I wanted to be taken seriously as a writer and avoid writing sex stuff. More recently I realized how ridiculous it was to limit myself.

I’ve been back and forth primarily due to another website that had decided to axe mature content (thereby leading rise to this one) a short while before I had started into fanfic, and some comments I had gotten over there suggesting less would be better.  As a result, the disasterous edit also included some cleanup of that smut.  On this rewrite, given an avenue where I *could* post an explicit version, I decided to write both more or less at the same time, which is working BTW.  Of course, by excluding elements from the “cleaner” version, it’s compounding where I have to omit even more elements due to logical inconsistencies otherwise, so it’s now around a 3:1 word count ratio between the two.

Totally get it. I have gone back and forth on it. When I first started writing, I didn’t have any serious sex scenes in content. In my first story, there were like 60 chapters of story before the first sex scene. Then many more chapters before two more. But in the sequels there weren’t.

Then later on I’ve written multiple sex scenes into stories. Now I’m writing stuff on this site which is mostly just sex with plot a part of it. Or at the very least I try to make sure the characters sound like those from the original story. Usually I think “How would the characters actually get into a sexual situation? What events from the series lend themselves to that?” and so on.

PWPs are to plot bunnies like blood is to sharks (IMO)   Some readers like lots of sex (something that’s fine on this website), others want it plot-justified and masked (which is what those other websites cater to), or even more want none at all.  For my potter fanfic, the explicit version is for those who desire (or at least don’t mind) multiple orgasms per chapter, while the “cleaner” version keeps it to the essential/masked variety; and the explicit version is way, way richer IMO for it.

I don’t belittle the PWP. I’m just talking about how I think when writing PWP.

I tend to have people mostly having fun when they’re getting it on.

For instance, I have a piece coming up where someone finds a fertility god statue/aphrodisiac statue. The woman who finds it has her sexual fantasies fulfilled. But I don’t have things like a magical dildo going after her or various people.

There’s another one I’ve already posted in which two women have sex with some demons and a magical spell making it impossible for the demons to physically harm them was enacted. But that’s as far as it goes.

Whereas for instance in my long form story based fic, I have characters who will bring up things that happened 3 years ago and how it’s affecting them today. Characters breaking up over philosophical issues, including morally questionable decisions about using magic to change someone’s memory of events.

Hi, all.
Nothing at all wrong with PWP when compared with plotted written porn.  But like you also just pointed out, once you start asking (and answering) questions, then the plot bunnies harness up, and the story takes off for places uncharted.
I suppose you could say a similar thing about human life in general.  As a rule, we are social beings and sexual activity, like most other human activities, tends to be more interesting when done in groups of more than one.  My Dinner with Andre was well-received, both when it came out and today.  While My Assignation with Andrea  would more likely be the generic “Pornhub Two-Reeler,” it could also be so much more artistically, even while being just as erotically explicit if not more.
While magical worlds, whether JKR’s or otherwise, can have their own unique gimmicks, in the end they still involve people, with all that implies.  Some people are boring, and others not-so-much.  And imagination can take you and your reader to the strangest places.  Imagine that Hagrid is a closet felcher, and that he unknowingly interrupts Professor (Crouch) Moody’s hallway discipline of Draco Malfoy during The Goblet of Fire.  Further, imagine that the human transfiguration doesn’t wear off until after Hagrid has enjoyed some mid-morning entertainment.  What if Draco liked it?  😉
Cheers!

Yep.  And mentally I make PWP out to be “plot, what plot?” more than “porn w/o plot”, though both apply.  So, technically, the little unreleased tale makes everything I’ve posted so far… BACKSTORY.
Yep, though the group of one allows for some interesting context too.

Hi, all.
Nothing at all wrong with PWP when compared with plotted written porn.  But like you also just pointed out, once you start asking (and answering) questions, then the plot bunnies harness up, and the story takes off for places uncharted.
I suppose you could say a similar thing about human life in general.  As a rule, we are social beings and sexual activity, like most other human activities, tends to be more interesting when done in groups of more than one.  My Dinner with Andre was well-received, both when it came out and today.  While My Assignation with Andrea  would more likely be the generic “Pornhub Two-Reeler,” it could also be so much more artistically, even while being just as erotically explicit if not more.
While magical worlds, whether JKR’s or otherwise, can have their own unique gimmicks, in the end they still involve people, with all that implies.  Some people are boring, and others not-so-much.  And imagination can take you and your reader to the strangest places.  Imagine that Hagrid is a closet felcher, and that he unknowingly interrupts Professor (Crouch) Moody’s hallway discipline of Draco Malfoy during The Goblet of Fire.  Further, imagine that the human transfiguration doesn’t wear off until after Hagrid has enjoyed some mid-morning entertainment.  What if Draco liked it?  😉
Cheers!

Certainly are in my potter fanfic (the explicit version… the “cleaner” version is a bit more implied).  Even got Hermione, plus Harry’s girl on the magical “pill”… so zero chance of pregnancy BUT with the caveat that when stopped, any unprotected sex in the first month or so is basically a guaranteed pregnancy.  (See where I’m going with this?  )

I think people really do need to think more pornographically to be honest when it comes to magic. Casters are still people and adults get horny all the time. Sex toys going invisible and or incorporeal for private time. Privacy spells, erotic illusions, anonymous rooms
lubricating and animating spells go without mention cause how obvious those are. Rendezvous and other ways of hiding secret notes for meet ups.
fertility and virility potions to aid and outright against procreation, aphrodisiacs. Lets be honest, the people going to hogwarts are fucking and they’re doing it often.

Never belittle the PWP.  It’s how my original universe started, I tried a PWP and my brain rebelled, go “how did they get here?”  Voila, an original universe was born.  Bouncy, full of life! (and nudity and sex)

Hi, Desiderius Price and all.
Didn’t Black and Decker try to make an inexpensive knock-off of that in the late 1970s?  After all, not everyone can afford Milwaukee tools.  IIRC, the model in the print ad showing the device off had crooked teeth and was visibly wearing braces.  Now, if only I could remember the name of that particular tool line…  😉
Cheers!

I once set loose a rogue enchanted dildo inside Hogwarts, it’d randomly go from person to person (uninvited).

Certainly not crazy. In fact, you’ve given me some fun ideas for my own writing.

I work in a fandom that has some magical stuff though I’ve mostly stayed away from adding magic to the smut I’ve been writing. Now I’m thinking about the idea of something crawling into someone.

There’s actually a real example of this, though not for sex purposes, in the fandom. So thanks for giving me ideas.

My thoughts when I read the article years ago… why didn’t they let it go a tad longer and cut themselves out of the gene pool?  (Not fatally, mind you… just enough to serve Darwin )

Hi, Desiderius Price and all.
Didn’t Black and Decker try to make an inexpensive knock-off of that in the late 1970s?  After all, not everyone can afford Milwaukee tools.  IIRC, the model in the print ad showing the device off had crooked teeth and was visibly wearing braces.  Now, if only I could remember the name of that particular tool line…  😉
Cheers!

Mine are still at home.  But, ‘company’ has shown up early, including an uncle that they hadn’t expected to show up.

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