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Definitely! I’d say that not getting feedback will affect not only ur motivation but ur writing skills too. If u don’t get constructive feedback you will never know if u did anything wrong or if u overlooked something or how to improve. I have to say that getting a beta improved my writing skills a ton! (thanks clovey and tcr) Not only cuz they fixed ma shit but they pointed out my mistakes and I could learn from them.
But yeah not getting any feedback has done a number on my motivation and I am no longer in any rush to finish any of my work or post it. I thought about the hook in my 1st chapter but I have to say I think it is sufficient enough for the story itself. The only other option would be changing the story which is the road I refuse to travel down. It’s not worth it for me.
The only advice I can give is check out if the summary and the hook in ur 1st chapter is sufficient
I gotta say it’s really sad that a lot of readers just don’t care enough to leave reviews. I’m was often guilty of this myself but now I try to be more active with stories I really like.
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16 hours ago, CloverReef said:
wow that's some insightful shit right there
Like anyone would take writing critique from someone who cant even spell weird right seriously
Oooh you just got burned son!
16 hours ago, CloverReef said:Hello ‘none of your business’. lol When I saw the email pop up, I legit thought it was one of my friends fucking with me. Not sure what’s going on in your life that you feel the need to be a dick to me, but I hope it helped and someone got something out of it.
lol did u think it was me? is it because of the misspelling?! well now I regret that I white knitted ur ass! but I would never let any lil bitch throw shade at ma waifu!
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2 minutes ago, InvidiaRed said:
Word choice as in are you disguising things. Are events transpiring openly or is there more going on that what’s readily being presented on the surface. Context can paint a very different picture of whats going on. A single well placed clue can do more than a ton of less subtle hints. How are you disgusing things if things are not as they appear.
Ex: It seemed as though a trick of light but the ruby seemed to have an inner fire all its own for an instant. (A set up that the ruby isn't normal)
Ex: Is it really the ticking of a clock or is it a timer steadily ticking down? What kind of tick is it? Is it a tick tock. or is it a steady tick tick tick… BOOM
Ex: Molly felt uneasy being locked in this room. The grand father clock’s ominous ticking didn’t seem quite right it was as if the ticking wasn’t perfectly synched.
The obviousness of the sudden lack of sound brought attention to its sudden absence.
“Oh shi-” Molly didn’t have time to finish as the room upended in a sudden conflagration.
Bringing attention to certain details or lack of details. Etc..
Oh ok I get it now. tnx Bob
may the Bob bless you
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36 minutes ago, Desiderius Price said:
There’s the old joke. What do you call a swimmer with no arms, no legs? “Bob”
That’s a joke? I don't get it…
20 minutes ago, InvidiaRed said:Somehow a story is manifesting in this thread. So Succumb to the Glory Of Bob. And add your own
30 chromosomes later deputy Bob the 3rd died a horrible death, killed by his own son Bob the 3,5 -rd. He closed his eyes a single tear falling down his wrinkled face.
“You too, ma bob child?” He whispered as his bob’s blood left him
“Noooo!” The other Bob rushed cradling his dying lover in his arms “How could you Bob?!” He cursed their but lovechild as he wept bitterly.
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2 hours ago, InvidiaRed said:
It depends. Is it a mystery story? If so stick to subtle hints. Don’t punish perceptive readers. A smile, movements and character behavior can all lead someone to accurately foretell what will happen long before events catch up.
For everything else. Word choice.
word choice? like what?
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12 hours ago, Desiderius Price said:
No hands, no feet, a swimming? Better believe Bob’s a bobbing.
12 hours ago, InvidiaRed said:There is only Bob- Bob Prime
I don't even know whats going on anymore...
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1 hour ago, InvidiaRed said:
I ship Bob 69 with Bob 89 =p
Bobageddon happened. The day everyone became Bob or perhaps catastrophic devastation as a result of every non-Bob simultaneously exiting reality. Only Bob Prime remembers the Pre Bob times. Perhaps it was both. The Bob world is too different from the world it was.
With the Bobwars finally coming to a close as the Bob Hegemony and the Bob Sovereignty destroyed perhaps the Confederacy of Bob will have a chance at peace. Even as the alliance of independent kingdoms of Bob struggles to reclaim what was lost.
I shall do my best to chronicle the events of Post Bobageddon. On my sacred honor
yours dutifully-Bob the 3rd
10/10 Bobs
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3 hours ago, Desiderius Price said:
I read that too fast this morning as “Strip” thinking you were wanting a “Bob” strip show.
lol
i tots want that too
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8 hours ago, InvidiaRed said:
In a story with everyone with the same name
it would be
Bob Prime/Imposter adjective Bob
Or
Bob/Other Bob
Or Bob/Bob the 42nd/Bob the third
I kinda wanna read that story now
I ship Other Bob with Bob the 3rd
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1 hour ago, Desiderius Price said:
Greetings there Bob. Sincerely, Bob.
39 minutes ago, InvidiaRed said:But who the is the Bobest?
Who among all of them is truly “the Bob”
Bob Prime
The Apex pinnacle of what it means to be Bob?
There can only be one “true” Bob.
Lord Spongebob praise be upon him!
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5 hours ago, Desiderius Price said:
That's why I resort to random generators, simply because my mind gets stuck otherwise, and it becomes rather unrealistic if all your characters are named "Bob".
I meanthe world would be a better place if everyone was named Bob
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6 hours ago, InvidiaRed said:
Don’t overthink it. Stick to your lore.
an ancient Chinese inspired culture is one of the easier ones. Since China had an incredible amount of dynasties and cities.
Gods are harder. I’d start top down with a pantheon, then the hierarchy etc. It also depends on what kinda god feel you are going for. Are they like the greeks flawed but bringing order to the universe. Animal headed or more fantasy D&D based.
Naming places are easier than you give credit.
The misty mountains are indeed misty. Clown cave is indeed filled with clowns. Simplicity at times is better than wit.
I see your point
its easier coming up with a a few random names but if u gotta come up with a bijilion then ur fucked!
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Just now, CloverReef said:
The way you described the stories to me. That’s your script. There was plenty of drama and emotion in it – and thats how most oral storytelling works, like a story around a campfire. You’d just need to edit it a little then read it out.
Well I guess I can try. But the emotional impact wouldn't be there as if ur actually with the characters the was it is in writting
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10 minutes ago, CloverReef said:
I won’t mention graphic novels again… But I got a new idea! Podcasts! You should totally tell your stories that way!
Well Id still need to write that shit as like a script! I could just lay out the basic plot, but that's not really hard to do in writing ether. Maybe I could just babble on and on about a story and what it would kinda look like and stuff, but would that really be entertaining? I mean it wouldn't be artsy or emotional at all
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What genres/categories do you play in?
Mostly fantasy. I think its called low fantasy? Like more realistic fantasy I mean. And I like historically inspired stuff. I also dabbed a bit into scifi. And of course u gotta have some romance and erotica mixed in all of that! I did write a few supernatural, and kinda horror-ish stories in the past but I just don't find it very interesting currently.
What genres/categories do you avoid?
Anything that requires too much research. Writing is already too much work! And I'm a lazy cunt so yeah…
I do have a love for history and find a lot of inspiration from it but the idea of writing in an actual historical setting doesn't appeal to me much. I guess that I'm kinda intimidated by all of the research and lack of freedom. That being said I wouldn't rule it out completely, maybe one day I feel confident to try.
I also avoid any modern day slice of life. I guess it feels to real and boring for my taste.
And honestly idk if I will ever write anything without romance or sex. That doesn't really mean I write romance/erotica, I just like to combine it with fantasy for example.
Why?
Well I think I explained myself pretty much. But I guess I could say a bit about why I like fantasy. I like to worlbuild and I like an environment where I have complete freedom to make whatever type of shit I want. Its pretty fucking awesome and u can get creative. But sometimes it is kinda tiresome that u have to do some things from scratch and with a detail obsessed nitpicker like me things can get ugly and take forever.
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1 hour ago, mastershakeme said:
Hahaha! I let @sweetmamajama scare me off my more darker urges in my current story… I’m still recovering
It’s cool to know I can go a little off the wall again once I’m done. I’m gonna do it! Rape for everyone!!!
Well I'm not against u going nuts (my stuff can get crazy too) but it is my job say my opinion and pointing out instances where something doesn't fit with already established stuff.So I encourage u to do it if that's what you want, but I probably wont wanna read it, cuz that's not really what I'm looking for.I have enough fucked up shit in my head as it is! I don't need urs too!
And that's fine, to each their own
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7 hours ago, BronxWench said:
. Sweetmamajama jokes with everyone, and some of the things she says might read to someone else as harsh, or rude, whereas anyone who’s taken the time to get to know her a bit knows it’s just teasing and done with no ill intent. (Sorry, sweetmamajama, for using you as the example, and I’m not poking, honest!)
Someone has summoned me!
S fine I get that a lot
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7 minutes ago, CloverReef said:
People made fun of my story on the forum I posted it on (it was god awful, but thanks to their mocking I avoided posting smut for another year after that.)
Aww bubeleh! How dare these fucks make fun of my clovey! Fuck em!
8 minutes ago, CloverReef said:I don’t feel like I’m giving too much. Sometimes I worry I’m not giving enough of myself. Those are usually the times I’ll delete the entirety of a chapter a dozen times and rewrite.
Maybe you should try working on that if you feel unsatisfied? Experiment with putting more of yourself into your writing? Have you ever heard of “dangerous writing”? Its great stuff. You can try it as an exercise, it might help you. If you're looking for help that is…
16 minutes ago, CloverReef said:Can lines be crossed? Fuck yes. Some lines need to be crossed. Some lines shouldn’t be crossed. My personal lines, content-wise, are with stories with minors. That’s something I won’t likely cross, but don’t fault others for crossing it. And there are lines I don’t think -anyone- should cross.
There are definitely differences between more objective and subjective lines. Like yours is minors, mine is scat (and other things too), thats subjective. But if you’re harming someone like slandering another person in your story with their real name without their consent or the example you used that yeah that is hurting someone and Id say that's objectively wrong and a line not to be crossed.
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My answers (also in the original):
When you write, do you ever feel self conscious about it?
Sometimes. There is a certain feeling of vulnerability in sharing your art with others. I used to feel really self conscious about my writing when I was younger and I often censored myself because I didn't want ppl to see my sick twisted little mind. But I think I kinda surpassed that, at least somewhat. Being anonymous on the internet helps. I try and remind myself that it’s not really worth dwelling too much on what other people think.
Do you feel like maybe you are giving away too much?
Again sometimes. It is quite easy to learn something about a person from their writing if you only look for it. Of course it depends on what type of a story it is and it varies from person to person.
But usually I think that it’s worth it. In order to receive you must give. Writing from emotion and being vulnerable can create amassing art. It creates a connection on a deeper level between the reader and a writer. And it gives the story a certain uniqueness. Like when you learn something about lives of famous authors you see their stories in a new light and you can see the personal connections with their art. I felt way more emotional about reading Kafka after I learned about his life and his abusive father. It put a lot of things in context and made his stories even more tragic in a certain sense because you could see the real man behind all the weird and abstract.
I believe that art is just another form of communication. Some people use writing as therapy, which is really fascinating to me. It’s kinda like dreaming. Our brain creates scenarios in which we can test our reactions and practice for real life. I think a lot of writers do this too, whether or not they're aware of it. It is also an exercise in empathy. You can write a character that you would find disgusting in real life and relate to them on a very deep level. It makes you question people around you, makes you wonder what their internal monologue looks like and why they say and do certain things.
idk where I was going with this...next!
People go through all sorts of changes in their life. If you are the same person at 20,30 and 40, you are doing it wrong.
Is that a question? This is really subjective. What is a right and a wrong way to live. Sometimes change isn't always for the better. Sometimes ppl change for the worse and destroy their lives and cause harm to others. Would that be more right than staying the same? Change for changes sake is not really what life is all about. But yeah it’s usually a good thing when ppl grow and mature and all that shit. Though you're not always in the right just because you're older. This really annoys me (from real life), ppl thinking they know better just because they're older than me. I'm all for hearing ppl out and all of that, but when somebody starts lecturing you about something they clearly know nothing about and think you're an idiot just because you're young I wanna choke a bitch!
Sorry...rambling again...I do that a lot
Do you feel like there are lines that shouldn't be crossed? Can you go too far?
Hmm idk... Well I guess. But as long as you're not hurting anyone I think you're good. Doesn't mean ppl are gonna like it, they might hate it. But that doesn't mean you should pander to them. If you don't like it, don't read it. I don't think it’s right to censor ppl. Somebody above already talked about this and I think they said it way better than me so I’ll just leave it at that.
But let’s get more personal. I do have lines I don't wanna cross, because I don't want too. But that being said I already crossed a lot of lines... My mind is a fucked up place and sometimes you gotta let em demons loose! A crazy idea pops into my head every now and again (and by that I mean all the time) but I'm not impulsive (or fast enough) to do all of them. So I sift through and way them and pick what I like and what fits. And sometimes my mind comes up with something so fucked up that I just have to do it! Like in one of my stories (that I haven't written yet and even if I did I couldn't post it here) the main character (underage, around 14) gets raped by his father, he's married to his sister who tries to murder one of her children (that is a product of rape by some other guy) and his mother made him disembowel a dog when he was a little kid in some weird ritual.
I often wonder wtfs wrong with me too...
Like what does this say about me? What would ppl think? Would they think I'm crazy? Would they think I'm a sadistic pedophile? Would they think I have daddy issues? I mean I am not even sure what that says about me! Shit just happens! The story just gets outta hand!
Wow these questions could be applied to my answers too... Do you feel self conscious? Yes! Do you feel like maybe you are giving away too much? Yes!
Maybe you should.
Maybe...maybe not...
I'm not doing scat, damn it!
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Hi! I saw this thread on Gay Authors .org in the forums and I found it really interesting so I wanted to bring it to AFF!
I'm not sure If I did this properly cause I couldn't wait for the admins to answer me! So sorry if I fucked up! Clovey said to blame her so...blame her!
Anyway these are the questions asked in the thread:
“When you write, do you ever feel self conscious about it?
Do you feel like maybe you are giving away too much?
People go through all sorts of changes in their life. If you are the same person at 20,30 and 40, you are doing it wrong.
Do you feel like there are lines that shouldn't be crossed?
Can you go too far?
Maybe you should.”
Let me know what you think and how you would answer these questions.
Link to the original:
https://www.gayauthors.org/forums/topic/42868-exposing-yourself-in-text/#comment-696825
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Just now, CloverReef said:
Twinsies!
what?! u don't have a beard u bitch!
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2 minutes ago, CloverReef said:
@sweetmamajama yeah crawling within is the one with which I got the most criticism. Much of it was valid criticism, of course. But that is easily my favorite story that I've written.
that's my fav story of urs too! i wish u finished it...
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5 minutes ago, mastershakeme said:
. I'm honestly picturing a neck beard trying to point out his cleverness when you said you were going to tell the readers to look for clues
well I do have a neck beard...
Rape in Literature: Thoughts?
in Writers' Corner
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Many good reply's here, so i don't wanna repeat the same thing as the other ppl but i guess i can just add a few of my thoughts
Saying that writing about rape is lazy writing is dumb and hypocritical. It’s only lazy if ur being lazy about it, just like with any fucking topic
Now I do encounter a lot of stories that have very disgusting implications about rape. They excuse the act, blame the victim, pretend like some of the most brutal, disgusting torture could be forgiven, glorify it etc. I think this is bad writing and immoral. I do make make distinctions tho between the narrative saying awful things about rape and characters doing it. It depends on the context. And I’m also more lenient on purely pornographic works since they usually tend to be someone’s fantasy. But when u put ur fantasy in a more serious work with plot and characters ur fantasy can’t remain unchanged. I think that then you have to make sure that the narration isn’t excusing the rape or blaming the victim.