Mr_Fairplay

Hey @Joe Long, i sent you a PM, check it out.

Fallout is post-apocalyptic as far as i know, i'm talking about like entire cities of the cyberpunk era. Think like Deus Ex: Human Revolution, fit the tech, the environment, and stuff from that era into Skyrim. Imagine Breezehome in Whiterun like a futristic apartment, The Civil War can fit here perfectly as well, though not sure how to fit the dragons...but still. And yep, they indeed are, got whole discographies of them, really cool stuff.

I'd suggest Skyrim (its awesome on PC because you can mod the hell outta that), Crysis trilogy, Assassin's Creed (2, Brotherhood and Revelations to be more precise), and Deus Ex: Human Revolution. To those who have played Skyrim, i have a thought in my head, imagine the gameplay and immersiveness of Skyrim, and put it in futuristic cyber-punk world. Just take Skyrim, and advance the technology and the world up to Cyber-punk era, How cool would that be?

hahaha, well i do admire her spirit.

I have never respected you more, dude, i am honored to have met you, finding another person who listens to the same music you do is really cool. I have heard about Demon Hunter, i have no idea why i didn't check em out, i mean they showed up when i searched for new bands but...i honestly don't know why i didn't check em out, oh well, thanks to you now i will. The Devil Wears Prada and Underoath are my all time favorite bands. Yes, you are pretty wise already, so i'd say you're off to a wonderful start

Truer words have never been spoken.

I see you have an awesome taste in music, when i'm feeling frustrated, hurt, angry and i need my release and to get re-motivated, i listen to Returning Empty Handed by Underoath. A word of warning, they're pretty extreme, the genre is metalcore, and there are heavy distortion guitars and screaming, so it might not be according to your taste, anyway, right in the bridge when he screams "as the light begins to breach...", feeling of pure bliss and relaxation.

I know what you mean, i went through it too, hell i still go through it every day. All you need to do, is take a few deep breaths, calm yourself, smile (but not too creepily) and just be yourself. Strike up conversation, look up openers online or just go with the flow, improvise. I had an opportunity with a friend of mine, i really liked her and was afraid that if i told her, she'll reject me and i'll even lose my friendship with her, but one day i made a choice that i was gonna do it, because when i died many years from now, i didn't wanted to regret not telling her, so i manned up and i told her, she was silent for 15-20 minutes, those were the longest minutes of my life, but then she told me the best four words in the world, "I like you too". Dude, just go for it, life's too friggin short to worry about the what ifs, who knows maybe she likes you too. ; ) Agreeing with @Jashley13, keep it casual, a coffee place is fair game, food court, etc. Girls sometimes reject because with a restaurant date there is too much pressure of it being a "date", and they get nervous themselves. Next time when you see her, try to strike up normal conversation, and see how it goes from there. Good Luck man, you're gonna be alright.

Ask her out? come on what's the worst that can happen?

Dude, it was not my intention either, and yeah i shared too, it felt good to do so and after hearing your story, i know i have to hang on, i know i won't give up. I can relate to your anxieties my friend, i used to have the same problems not too long ago, you remember what i said about a friend helping me? Yeah, so i read a book in which a character much like myself, uses magic tricks, (up close and personal, street magic, card trick stuff) to get over some problems, mainly approach anxiety and other issues, so i sorta followed his example, at first my main goal was to get a date, somehow impress the girl and take her out (keep in mind, i was still a teenager back then, and kinda stupid), i never got the date, but i t helped me with my anxiety problems, allowed me to handle stressful situations ( it is quite stressing when you know every eye is on you and you can't screw up), but most importantly i made friends, more friends than i can count, and most of them were female. In y previous post, which actually prompted you to reply by sharing (which has taught me a valuable lesson, thank you for that), i seem quite depressed, because my find was, and is somewhat, filled with doubt, and it's killing me, i went to the shrink for this reason among the nightmares, i will not share it over here publically but if you want PM me and i will tell you, i think you may be able to help me. And once again, Thank You, you have helped me out in more ways than you know.

Dude, you're totally right, yeah life sucks, and everyone is going through their personal hell, just because someone else isn't going through the same shit as you does not give them the right to tell you to just shut up, seriously that Africa excuse is just wrong. I'm 20, i'm still a virgin, hell i had my first kiss when i turned 20. You're story is similar to mine as well, i can't fit in still, and maybe i'm depressed (i dunno how i feel about that). Actually, i'm thinking of writing my story on a character that i couldn't be, that i want to be, someone who i should have been. I have summer school, and its coming to an end in a couple of weeks, so my instructors are frantic and everything is just way too hectic for me to write, i'll probably start in the the first or second week of July.

Thanks man, i needed like a veteran at life, much like yourself, to tell em to hold on, to tell me that its worth it. I'm in college, i got absolutely no action in high school, hell most of my highschool years were spent in surviving sexual abuse (i got when i was 10, didn't tell anyone until recently), extreme bullying, and depression. I'm currently a junior in college, and for the first two years here,things were better than highschool, but not that much. Bullying continued and it made its way to social networking sites, were it not for a certain friend of mine i would not have been able to return, he helped me a lot through all that and showed me what i could do, who i'm truly am, then i met my best friend who recently graduated, she was the light in my darkness, with her i finally felt like i belonged somewhere, also she was the first person who i ever told about my abuse. Shortly i had turned 20, i met my first girlfriend, she was amazing but it was long distance and it did not work out, she was the first girl i ever loved and even a second spent with her felt like i was on cloud 9, shortly after she went away, but before she went away she told me somethings that plague my mind to this very day, in a way she got through all my defenses and broke apart my insides, i'm learning to move on now, its slow but im getting there. I had my first kiss a month after we broke up, with another friend of mine, she was the second person who i ever told, we fooled around some but never gotten further than 2nd base, that went on for roughly a month and since then i haven't gotten any action. Before me and my ex, the long distance one, Emily was here name, broke up she told me she wanted a MMF threesome, now i won't lie, before i met her i had that fantasy myself, but after her...well, things change and i couldn't even stand the idea of another man touching my girl, i declined and we moved on from that conversation and never paid any mind to it...until 3 months ago. For the last three or so i'm going through a mental and emotional hell, much like the same thing Kayla is going through. I dunno how it came to be, but i stumbled upon some material that focused on what Emily wanted from me, i was searching for regular porn and i accidentally clicked on something that lead me to amateur threesome, swinger porn, that sorta stuff. It triggered a delayed much more intense response to Emily asking me for a MMF threesome, as a result i lost hope. I lost sight of the only thing that was driving me forward, a nice quite life with the woman i love, in its stead i had to endure images of my future girl getting it on with some guy. It got worse recently, so much that i had to seek out therapy. My point is not a pissing contest that who life's screwing harder, nor am i crying over my somewhat f---ed up life, but my point is that we all went through, are going through, and in the case of @thismy and me, will probably go through a lot of hardship and pain. Looking back over every experience that I've been through, i wouldn't change a damn thing, because every experience taught me a valuable lesson or something about myself, and because of that i've become better each time. All i wanted to know that is it worth it, is it worth going through all of this shit? and thanks to you @Joe Long, i have my answer, that yeah, it is worth it, that she is worth it. Thanks for your words man, i needed them.

You got that right, i indeed am 20, and also i am basing my ideas on my real life experiences, which i have faced and am facing, and trust me when i say this, i'm toning it down when i write, the truth is real life experiences really suck, a fact that everyone can attest to, in my version of the theories Jack and Kayla somehow work it out and their relationship emerges stronger than ever, but if i had to base it 100% on my real life experiences they never patch up, Kayla tortures Jack for a long time and even then she's reluctant to fix things, Jack is working his ass off to fix everything but no avail, eventually Jack gets so depressed that he kills himself, Why? Because when the light in the darkness of your life goes out, you tend to think there's nothing left fighting for. Or, in the fight, Jack dies or Kayal dies, and the hospital scene never happens. Everybody makes a theory based of their own experiences, Joe's writing the story using the same principle, bloil it down to the most basic idea, we've just been giving him events, the way he carries them out will be different from ours.

I hope that's the way it turns out man, i really hope so.

I read somewhere that a relationship is two people against the world, a co-op mode of a game that makes the game easier, fun and oh so worth it (think of Dark Souls, still beats the crap outta you but a tiny bit easier and is two player co-op), a two person team. When i picture Jack and Kayla, i see that, i see them as a team. Yes, Kayla gets possessive, yes she fights for Jack and her relationship, and yes she also suspects everything, and then in a couple of chapters something drastic happens that changes everything about the way she thinks, and then Jack and Kayla emerge stronger than ever. We are gonna see some angst in the coming chapters, that much is certain.

Yeah man, the sentiment is well shared.

Kayla starts to close off, Jack gets worried and asks her what's wrong, and she always replies with "it's nothing, i'm fine", this goes on for a while, and the more Jack gets persistent the more Kayla closes off, Jack's getting depressed, Jack's taking a walk in the park or something (the skating rink can be a good choice here), with Tara, and that's where he gets stabbed, or shot, then our mystery man reveals himself, which the majority (or just the three of us) seem to believe is Brad or Jeff. Jack's losing a lot of blood, and he's gonna pass out, Jack is in no position to defend himself, Tara rushes to his aid, fights off the assailant (has some help if its Brad, because there is no way she can bring him down solo), Tara comes to his side to help him stop the bleeding and calls 911, he's trying to fight it, trying to stay awake, but he's failing to do so, then he sees Kayla's face, where there was once love, adoration and trust for Jack is now filled with hurt and distrust, when he sees that he gives up, the fight suddenly left his body and he drifts into unconsciousness. Cue the hospital apology scene. This way Jack's alive, Kayla has apologized, their relationship with each other and Tara is fixed. What do you think, could be worth a couple of chapters worth of material? (I wonder what Joe thinks when he reads our fanfic...hmmmm.)

Roller skating rink? hmm, interesting. This might be fun....oooh, oooh, i totally found like an awesome entry point for Jeff or Brad, they work at the rink, you know, operating the ice resurface machine (sorry if it's the wrong term, never been to a skating rink and there's no rink close to my home for miles). So, that way if there is a fight and Jack gets stabbed, it adds spice to being bled out (wow, never thought i'd say that). something along the lines of "The last thing i saw was Kayla's face, contorted, and tears flowing from her eyes, i looked to where i felt a sharp pain and found that i had been stabbed. Darkness claimed me as i bled on the ice". Just focus on the words, 'Bled on the ice'. It's funny how strongly i'm rooting for a fight....that's disturbing.

Hmm, well this does leave Brad's return not quite outside the realm of possibilities, since his sentence is quite sketchy, i'd say he returns later on, at least 2 chapters after, i hope Kayla and Jack and hive a nice talk to sort things out in the next chapters. Me, you and couple of other people have come up with some decent theories, which in any case happen after the upcoming chapter if we take into account the hints Joe himself left us, since he says the next chapter is not as emotionally loaded, that leaves us with two main possibilities. A.) Either Kayla and Jack are on the beginning of talking it out and towards fixing their problems. B.) There is little progress made and Kayla takes some time to think things over, and then towards the end we see in which direction is their relationship gonna go. C.) Something else i haven't thought of yet. In any case, the next chapter is really crucial to determining the direction in which the story is gonna go, and i have a feeling something big is gonna happen.

Now this i can totally see happening, due to Rhona being overly flirtatious Kayla starts to get worried, this results some insecurities to brew up in her mind, the seeds of which were laid down by the threesome. I agree with your theory that she's scared that she will have to share Jack and the nagging thought "what if he finds someone better?", i really don't think the flirting from Rhona affects Jack other than being uncomfortable, i don't think he has naughty thoughts unless he's stupid enough to jeopardize his already troubled relationship, and quite frankly Jack is anything but stupid, so he doesn't have that reaction, still it's not totally outside the realm of possibilities. I agree with @thismy, i'm also very curious to see what is up with Kayla's parents.

Speaking of Jeff, anyone know what exactly was the sentence on which Brad was put away, and the time that he has to serve behind bars? I was just going through the possibility of Brad returning, so it just popped up in my mind.

Aw man, well, it's ok, its the thought that counts, i'll do some digging up through the forum and try to find him, but thanks anyway.

ugh, this is going to be one looooooooong week. Say, do you know anyone from Perth, Australia, or you yourself know a bit about the area around the beach? I'm gonna write a story based in that region, so i need to know about the places, wanna help?

There's no fight at least in the next chapter, i see Jack and Kayla and Tara trying to fix all of this, the result of all that i'm not sure, depends on Joe. You said, "How I interpret this, at least, is that we've got a lot more drama/strife/trouble coming at us. However, I'm not sure it will come immediately, or even soon." A part of that we have already seen in the form of the threesome, so that leaves the aftermath to be dealt with and it could get ugly. Like i said before, Jack and Kayla do not strike me as that kind of couple and like you said, another threesome or Kayla sleeping with another dude is highly unlikely, so i guess the odds are that it's not happening, that being settled. Any indication of any sorts of fights will be given at the end of chapter 34, which does anyone know is coming out? Joe said, an old familiar face will return, in the next chapters, not chapter, and like you said its not gonna happen soon. So, we can safely deduce the next one will be filled with more emotional stuff, though not as intense as chapter 33, my bet is that there is some progress made and Kayla is starting to come around. Can't really blame the poor girl, watching the love of your life having sex with another person, regardless of whether you love the other person or not, will shake one up, pretty badly in some cases. From the last moments of chapter 33, Kayla is starting to become sort of accepting to the fact, she'll need some time, but she'll come around. Let's see what happens.

Either i see a fight coming up or Kayla having sex with another dude, and since a few people have explored 'the fight' aspect, myself including (though not anywhere as near as them, @thismy to be exact, damn good work man), let's see what the 'sex with another dude' aspect has to offer. I'd say even if they do go through with it, it really messes up Jack and creates more problems than there already are for the relationship, so it requires something just short of a miracle to save their relationship. Honestly, i really don't have any idea what's going to happen, there are like so many clues out there and all of them point in opposite directions, like Joe himself said "an old familiar face will return", so that leaves us with a good chance of a fight in the coming chapters, but then he has called this saga, The Summer Saga, which( i dunno if you guys see it) is sort of pointing in the direction of Kayla getting it on with another dude. Now, most people here are of the opinion that the former is more likely than the latter, so that leaves us back to square one. Oh, and another thing, there are an average of 8 chapters per saga (give or take), and since we're already 5 chapters in, that leaves like around 3-4 left, just something that i noticed.