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First things first, @thismy, HOLY SHIT DUDE!!!!! THAT WAS AAAAAAAWESOOOOOOMMMEEEE!!!!!

Man, you are one talented guy, you come damn near close to being the Jashley13 alternative, man seriously that was some epic shit.

Secondly, crazy fan theory: Jack's in a coma, everything that happened after Brad, was all in Jack's head, during the fight with Brad, Jack took a really bad hit to the head sending him into a coma, he's been in the hospital all that time, the twins didn't get caught, Tara and him didn't kiss, the threesome never happened, Walburn didn't kill himself, it was all in Jack's head.

Thirdly, my finals are fucking finally over! Freedom at last!

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The question is how much time. It's a slow healing wound

That, my friend, is the real question.

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Maybe, but I don't think the issue is the threesome itself. It was the image of Jack being so intimate with Tara, doing something that he had only previously done with Kayla, that is making Kayla insecure.

Her fear is losing Jack. There's nothing bigger than that, except of course, one's life.

Combine both of them together, 'Losing Jack's Life', and as far as i know, Jack was not intimate at that level, sure he had sex but he didn't feel anything like he felt with Kayla, hell even an animal fucking session between Jack and Kayla feels intimate and like they have a connection. Give her some time, she'll come around.

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From personal experience, I don't think that mental image will ever leave Kayla's brain, til the day she dies. It's just a matter of how well she can push it down.

Unless, and this is a personal untested theory (if it exists somewhere else formally, then i might have read it there, in which case ignore the previous statement), if you have a particular fear of something like mice, you will be fearful whenever that thing shows up, but if you were given an even bigger fear stimulus, like heights, something that can make you lose something that you hold very dear to you (in this case, your life), you will tend to pay lesser importance to a mouse that showed up while you were standing on top of a really high skyscraper. Apply that to Kayla, if something bigger came up, bigger than the threesome, she's likely to ignore the threesome incident.

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I had suggested a new hunk at school, but also Jeff would be a good catalyst. I don't know if Jeff could get his whole family to move, but he could definitely go on a road trip, after tracking down Kayla.

Jack has a laid back attitude, somewhat. It would take a whole lot to push his buttons and piss him off royally, another guy seeking Kayla's affection will do that, we saw how he got pissed off at Nick, although will Kayla enjoy that affection is a matter up for debate.

What i'm really interested is, will the aftermath of the threesome be dealt with by the end of this saga or will these feelings continue to the next one and affect shit in that saga as well?

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I actually have a friend like that, problem is all her friends are in a relationship already.

Sometimes its friends of friends...or you can just be friends with these girls, and when you go out to have fun with them, the other girls will look at you and wonder "hmm, what does that guy got?", their curiosity is piqued, and now you have their attention, so you swoop in for the kill, seal the deal, get a date, ace the date, get more dates, make an impression, make her official, BOOM! you now have a steady girlfriend.

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I don't think any of them will ever consider a threesome again. What has happened, even when things appear to be patched up, is a lost of trust. I think that will cause Kayla or Jack to over react when they see the other doing anything out of line, even unintentionally.

Yes, i was just thinking, since there are going to be some trust issues, would Jessica and Nick try anything on Jack and Kayla, respectively?

Speaking of trust issues, i have a feeling eventually they'll have a big heart to heart and get over what happened, some tears will be shed, and they'll emerge stronger than ever. I have to admit, Kayla does not seem like the "Eye for an Eye" type, so its unlikely for another threesome, besides Joe will update us on that i think. But something has to trigger the heart to heart conversation, and i think its familiar face.

I have a hunch, this face will be revealed at the end of this saga, leaving this saga at a cliffhanger, if its Jeff then he would have transferred to Jack's school so he can get his hands on Kayla, that will trigger Jack's own insecurities and add Kayla's insecurities on top, you have the perfect recipe for the heart to heart.

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I said about experiences I've had, unplanned, when the sight of someone is just overwhelming. You can try to ignore them, but just can't.

It would be fun to have this happen to Kara, but that struggle is mostly mental and as we are getting the story from Jack's POV, we only get to see inside his mind. Anything with Kara would have to be thru Jack's eyes, which might not be as satisfying for the reader.

Still, it might work, Some hunk starts at school, and hard as she tries Kara can't quit stealing glances. Jack challenges her about how her tongue hangs out whenever the new guy is around. Of course she doesn't want to, but her comment about "other guys" is still in his mind.

Yes, but unless Joe leaves a cliffhanger at the end of this saga or leaves some unfinished business that leads into the next saga, i don't see this happening, simply put, unless Kayla and Jack make up, have that talk and get over these hard feelings (somehow) by the end of this saga, i don't see that happening. But if Jack and Kayla don't make up and those feelings continue into the next saga, then there might be a chance of that happening, particularly a MMF threesome.

The way i see it, Jack and Kayla both have something that they dread, Jack = having to give Kayla a MMF threesome.

Kayla = Jack wanting another girl.

They now have insecurities, and judging by the pace of this saga, if something does not happen during these last couple of chapters of this saga, chances are this will continue into the next saga.

What i really fear is Jack actually giving Kayla a MMF threesome, the only way i can get over that is if Underoath decides to rejoin.

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But sometimes the nice guys get the girls, sometimes the girl is smart enough to recognize the douchebag, and instead goes for the nice guy (much like ourselves here), the guy treats her like a princess that she is, and the girl treats him like the king of the world. It's like they're two pieces of a puzzle that fit together, and when they do come together, they finally realize why it didn't work with anyone else.

Theory Question: People on this thread have theorized that Jack might be a little tempted when school reopens and the new girls come, what about Kayla? Doesn't she get affected in the same way? Post threesome, when Jack asks if she has someone in mind for a MMF 3some, she says that none from whom they know, what about the new kids? How about Kayla wants a threesome with a new kid? What will Jack do then?

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New chapter coming out on Saturday?

It has been two weeks since the last one.

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But in this day and age, one night of drunken sex can ruin your life forever.

100% true, yet everyone of my age group wants that, and i'm like staring at them with what is known as my WTF face (patent pending). I told you i haven't been on anything remotely resembling a date in over 6 months, the reason is that i tried, but i never felt anything towards the girl, there were pretty hot ones, but other than getting an occasional boner (which is rare), i felt nothing, no excitement, no reason to continue to get to know her other than a friend (in some cases, I am the one doing the friendzoning). And yet, i can name like 50 guys i know who would actually like to fuck someone who's so boring, that they can put me to sleep faster than Xanax and Valium combined, just because she's hot, not that i'm complaining, but come on, a good personality would be nice.

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It all comes down to the girl and what kind of relationship you have with her, if she's a good friend then even though she's taken and rejected you, she'll at least try to set you up with her single hot friends, if she's the bad kind then you're shit outta luck, if she's the evil type she'll cheat on her boyfriend and fuck you (but if she cheated on her bf, chances are she'll cheat on you too), and if she's the good type, she'll set you up with someone better.

Pros: you are friends with hot girls who can set you up with other hit girls, or at least they'll make you look good.

Cons: possible heartbreak and blueballs.

Again, depends on the girl.

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Tried just going for the 'be confident' route before. Didn't work as well as I had planned (I got friendzoned)

Some people argue that guys in the friendzone are potential fuck mates, they say that women put them there as backup options, while many disagree with these guys, there is a sliver of truth in that assumption, think about when a woman cheats, who does she go to first? The guys in the friendzone, she cries over her boyfriend, they offer a shoulder to cry on and sometimes the guy in the friendzone ends up balls deep in the girl.

My point being, it's different for everyone. Now here's what you can do, keep up your confident nice guy approach but also act like you're indifferent to her charms, women are good at detecting whether their charms are working or not. There is a very fine line between acting uninterested and head over heels. You need to be like, "OK, you're cute, attractive, funny, smart, *insert any quality that you like*, but why should i choose you?" Douchey approach? Agreed. But it works, so if you spice it up with the nice guy charms, BINGO! You got yourself the perfect strategy.

I've personally used this on 3 girls, and each and everyone of them showed me great results, didn't even come close to the friendzone.

You ever think maybe girls go for the douches because as kids we're taught 'he's mean to you because he likes you'?

That's what they say in kindergarten, fucking lies.

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I would say, "The story of my life", but you already know that

"The story of BOTH our lives"

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Don't give up! I think you've nailed something here that I didn't see before.

Why does Tara (and other girls) go for the kind of guys they don't actually want or need? Because those guys are confident. The girls put out, and instead of being satisfied, then end up being fucked by some conceited douche, all the while us shy guys standing quietly in the background, waiting, who would treat her like the princess she is, are left to go home and beat our meat in frustration.

I know, i'm a genius, hahahaha.....dude, this is like universal, it happens everywhere, the nice guys end up in the friendzone while the douchebags desecrate someone they deeply care about, if only some of the nice guys grew a pair every once in a while, no douchebag will ever screw over a nice girl and the good guy will always get the girl.

And for the record, i'm not giving up, in fact i'm just getting started.

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The song wasn't bad, but I'm not a huge fan of that genre of music anyway, so. Not sure that it fits Kayla to well. I can see where you're coming from, but Kayla still is the girl she used to be, and she's not stupid. There's just a lot of shit happening.

In regards to your frustration/ fed up-ness, what are the specific things that bother you?

Also, on a completely different note, I think I need to stay away from twitter. My God, the number of self bemoaning tweets I see. Mostly from girls. I'm not one of those cringy "girls did you know" people, but really, it's like every guy must be an asshole. Maybe that's how Tara feels. The whole thing drives me insane.

Well, @thismy, i haven't been using social media actively for over 6 months now, other than an occasional status update or a picture, i don't feel like using Facebook and Twitter or any other type of social media. In response to the bemoaning tweets from girls, the Katt Williams sums up pretty nice what needs to be said, look him up on YouTube, search The Pimp Chronicles part 1, the one where he's wearing a green velvet jacket.

My frustration is a result of a lot of things, mainly the changes Kayla has gone through, i know people change but her change has been like all of a sudden for me at least, could be wrong here. The only guy who's remained static is Jack, he's almost the same from what we saw on Day 1, and Tara, my God, oh sweet Tara, she's naive to say the least. She needs a nice guy who treats her nice, like Jack does Kayla, but she always gets attracted to the douchebags i.e Carson. The reason? Well, douchebags possess a certain level of confidence the nice guys don't, look at the first chapter, Jack is hesitant to introduce himself to Kayla the first time he sees her but Craig wastes no time to swoop in. Now on to Carson, why was Tara attracted to Carson? Because he possessed somewhat the same degree of confidence Craig possessed, so why was no one else other than Tara attracted to him? well, because the other girls were already in committed relationships with the nice guys, and how'd they get there? by having their hearts broken by douchebags before, after which the nice guy comes and picks up the pieces and the girl realizes there are some genuinely nice dudes alive as well, and more than often they are stuck inside "The Friendzone".

I'm pissed at Kayla, because she may not have done something yet, but very soon she will, like push Jack away, which she has already started by refusing sex. What you think is gonna happen next, it started off with no sex, now when Jack's gonna want to try to talk, she's gonna say something like "Not now Jack", understandable that she went through the threesome, but when that happens, it will be months into it. Jack's gonna be more than pissed then.

I could probably come up with a theory on what Kayla's gonna do next, but i have no idea how girls think and if i did, i would be in a loving, committed relationship instead of using my hand.

In addition to all that, i have a really sore throat with a bad cough, my throat feels like someone rubbed it vigorously with sandpaper, on top of that my lungs hurt from all the coughing, i took some meds but it takes some time for them to work.

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Honestly guys, i'm a little fed up from the story, concerning recent events at least. And don't even get me started on Kayla...speaking of which, i found a rather befitting song for her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ048znpl6k

The band is called Framing Hanley, they're breaking up this year sadly, but they did put out some decent music though.

[Magusfang's Corner]

starts with Boy in the Grass, Then Girls in the grass, and I'm writing Shadows in the grass now. The other stories are stand alones and sort of in a hiatus, I want to concentrate on Shadows, though I may write a chapter or two of Northstar now and again if I get stuck

Sweet, thanks man.

[Magusfang's Corner]

Hey guys, i'm new to this thread, not new to the forum itself though, been here for a month or so now. Anyway, i've been hearing a lot of praise for the big man himself Mugasfang, and i'm curious to read his stuff, can anybody (or mugasfang himself) tell me what's the chronological order of his story? I really wanna give his stuff a try.

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Oh boy, looks like all of us came back from hibernation, huh? I'm just kidding.

I agree with the assumption that Jack's dickish behavior is a combination of everything that he faced, first the threesome, his performance, the reaction of the girls...Kayla turning sex down is just icing on the cake, it's not the cause itself merely it is a small part of many. When the summer saga began, Jack wanted nothing more to relax, chill out, hang out with Tara and Kayla and fuck the latter's brain out (multiple times), but what he got instead was an emotional shit storm, a cluster fuck if you will, Jack's been through a lot in the last chapters and now he's nearing his breaking point, the annoyance is just the first sign of that.

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I know it's been a while since anyone posted a theory, but something just occurred to me, Joe had a crush on Brad, he also is in a relationship with Belle and by the looks and general consensus of it, he's crushing on Sam as well. Let's say it's Brad who comes back, will Joe show a reaction?

[BashfulScribe's Written Works]

Welcome Bashful, glad to have you here,

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@Joe Long, sent you a PM, check it out man.

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Ouch...

Something kinda along those lines happened to me. I was playing the "are you nervous?" Game with a friend of mine. Basically groping her, my younger friend who was there freaks out. She freaks out, we leave. I get a text later that she "want me to come over so she can show me something." I'm like "ok" but I see my younger friend on the way over, and he comes up to me. (We all lived close together) we walked you to her door, she opens it, sees my younger friend, frowns, and says "oh, I forgot what it was."

I still cringe sometimes. And that's not the only story like that I have. I was a real oblivious person. Really oblivious.

Thankfully nothing like that happened...that i know of...that i can remember. I had a chance once, chick flat out asked me " wanna see my tits?" my answer was, "Fuck yes", ended up making out and groping.

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See - now THAT'S why teenagers shouldn't be having sex!

And especially under any circumstance, attempt activities that'll complicate, fuck up and in some cases break up even adult relationships.