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OMG it’s Desiderous Price’s story! It’s all his fault! Get Him!
Sorry, I just wanted to incite some mindless mob violence, I never get to at home  Lizzie says its not lady like...

At this point, for anyone in the UK reading this thread who is worried about the proposed law, or the regulations imposed in 2008, here’s a link to Backlash. Their mission statement:
https://www.backlash.org.uk/

At this point, for anyone in the UK reading this thread who is worried about the proposed law, or the regulations imposed in 2008, here’s a link to Backlash. Their mission statement:
https://www.backlash.org.uk/

At this point, for anyone in the UK reading this thread who is worried about the proposed law, or the regulations imposed in 2008, here’s a link to Backlash. Their mission statement:
https://www.backlash.org.uk/

Censorship is a blunt tool, wielded for different reasons, with stifling unwanted intents/desires/thoughts from the populace being a desired outcome.  Dictators will dissuade rebellion/revolt/disloyalty.   Clergy want you to stay faithful to their religion (and power), so dissuade blasphemous thoughts.  And parents wanting to be lazy and have the schools do their parenting for them.  And while it may have collateral damage, censorship exists because it can be effective in some situations, delaying the inevitable (and that can be good enough).
Overall, I like AFF because it’s generally supportive of freedom in writing, and the few rules that do exist are to starve the lawyers.  Because, like you, I loathe censorship, that’s why you’ll see the topic appear in my stories from time to time. 

This is less about content in some story or on some web site, this is that timeless phenomenon of people wanting to force their morals, which they probably don't actually follow themselves, on others simply as a way of excersizing power and control over another. Censorship isn't about protecting teens from evil pornographers, it's about conditioning people to obey, can't stop the unwashed masses from thinking for themselves if they can read whatever they want on the Internet, just ask Kim Jong-Un.
It starts with banning adult themed content and before you know it they're burning The Cat In The Hat because that darn cat is obviously a criminal element we don't want out poor innocent children exposed to! 
Ok, I’ll get off my soapbox again, sorry for the rant but censorship is a touchy subject, I've dealt with it before from parents and school board idiots, did you know I had a mother object to us reading Winnie The Pooh to the kids one year? Evidently talking animals are an affront to God, personally I doubt SHE cares  

If arbitrarily deciding that created content is worthless becomes a thing, regardless of the consumers of that content and their more informed opinion, then I demand all cultish celebrity television be forced to stop broadcasting immediately.
The point is, regardless of personal preference, all content is worth something. We are all different, we all have differing tastes, and there should be a place for everyone to play, whether their tastes run towards extremes, slash, celebrity or anything else under the sun. As long as no one is harmed, then there can be no logical argument for censorship. I agree with your view that this would lead to a decrease in creativity, and that would be a very sad thing IMO too.
 

Well, I live in the same country that imprisoned Oscar Wilde for the crime of being gay, calling it “gross indecency” at whose sentencing the judge said:
Also the same country that convicted the brilliant (and gay) mathematician Alan Turing for “indecency” (why this seems to be a pattern!), making him submit to a “cure” (oh, no, wait… it’s getting worse – cure actually means chemical castration). From the court record, word for word:
To this day, there are still men living in Britain who were convicted under the same law – for being gay.
So… can I imagine being forced to defend the writing I produce in a court of law, in this country in which I live? Yes, I can… all too easily. They’ll probably come out with some new “obscene publication” law.
Although, apart from all the disturbing and horrific BDSM I write (which I would defend, even if it ended in prison time), the idea of an actual court starting down the path of the tl;dr “Why slash?” thing is a little bit hillarious.

It doesn’t include the written word… yet. Though the kind of people who think these things up will have that in their sights, I’m sure.
The age verification they propose is not satisfied by a “Proceed” question either. It has to be done via credit card or something similar. But then again, he makes the point they have no clue how the internet works. There’s no way to police it for content hosted outside the UK, which has no obligation to conform to any act passed by our parliament, and therefore makes the entire thing ridiculous. As he says, it’s the smaller UK content providers who are going to be hurt by this. Those who produce pornography that fits in a niche, that probably isn’t created exclusively by men, for men, and isn’t necessarily hetero or vanilla. Sad.
I doubt this has anything to do with what children see or not on the internet: there are plenty of parental control things out there, and if that fails, supervision of online time would work. I’ve always thought that letting kids loose on the internet is a bit like leaving them on a street corner. But anyway, I think that’s just a convenient facade to justify a war on pornography (especially certain kinds of pornography). Yet again, I find myself wondering what the hell people have against it. They don’t have to watch, it’s easy to avoid. I’m always tempted to think that some of us are just more adult than others. *sighs*  

Not going to reproduce the article here, but I will provide a link. Wow… I hope this does not come to pass :/
The most chilling parts:
https://johnnyvoid.wordpress.com/2016/10/19/they-are-coming-for-the-internet-new-porn-and-copyright-laws-could-criminalise-millions/
Thoughts, anyone? Anyone else who comes here from the UK?

Not going to reproduce the article here, but I will provide a link. Wow… I hope this does not come to pass :/
The most chilling parts:
https://johnnyvoid.wordpress.com/2016/10/19/they-are-coming-for-the-internet-new-porn-and-copyright-laws-could-criminalise-millions/
Thoughts, anyone? Anyone else who comes here from the UK?

Well, I live in the same country that imprisoned Oscar Wilde for the crime of being gay, calling it “gross indecency” at whose sentencing the judge said:
Also the same country that convicted the brilliant (and gay) mathematician Alan Turing for “indecency” (why this seems to be a pattern!), making him submit to a “cure” (oh, no, wait… it’s getting worse – cure actually means chemical castration). From the court record, word for word:
To this day, there are still men living in Britain who were convicted under the same law – for being gay.
So… can I imagine being forced to defend the writing I produce in a court of law, in this country in which I live? Yes, I can… all too easily. They’ll probably come out with some new “obscene publication” law.
Although, apart from all the disturbing and horrific BDSM I write (which I would defend, even if it ended in prison time), the idea of an actual court starting down the path of the tl;dr “Why slash?” thing is a little bit hillarious.

Hmm… many outlaws will we have when they make writing/reading without a license illegal?   Fahrenheit 451 anyone?

Very well said.
As much as I dislike the Celebrity subdomain here (and I’ve never been shy about saying so or why), I will concede that it does belong here, under the very appropriate real-person fiction limits we have. I’m not and never want to be the arbiter of what is permissible from a creative standpoint. 

If arbitrarily deciding that created content is worthless becomes a thing, regardless of the consumers of that content and their more informed opinion, then I demand all cultish celebrity television be forced to stop broadcasting immediately.
The point is, regardless of personal preference, all content is worth something. We are all different, we all have differing tastes, and there should be a place for everyone to play, whether their tastes run towards extremes, slash, celebrity or anything else under the sun. As long as no one is harmed, then there can be no logical argument for censorship. I agree with your view that this would lead to a decrease in creativity, and that would be a very sad thing IMO too.
 

The trouble with censorship, is, once you’ve started, it’s not just the authors who are punished that concern me, but those who start self-censoring, or decide to not write because of it.    Self-censoring, or electing “not-to” is worse aspect of these laws, IMO, as that’s material that’s permanently lost because it’s never created.  (Of course, those doing the censoring will argue that’s the point of censoring).

Well, I live in the same country that imprisoned Oscar Wilde for the crime of being gay, calling it “gross indecency” at whose sentencing the judge said:
Also the same country that convicted the brilliant (and gay) mathematician Alan Turing for “indecency” (why this seems to be a pattern!), making him submit to a “cure” (oh, no, wait… it’s getting worse – cure actually means chemical castration). From the court record, word for word:
To this day, there are still men living in Britain who were convicted under the same law – for being gay.
So… can I imagine being forced to defend the writing I produce in a court of law, in this country in which I live? Yes, I can… all too easily. They’ll probably come out with some new “obscene publication” law.
Although, apart from all the disturbing and horrific BDSM I write (which I would defend, even if it ended in prison time), the idea of an actual court starting down the path of the tl;dr “Why slash?” thing is a little bit hillarious.

It doesn’t include the written word… yet. Though the kind of people who think these things up will have that in their sights, I’m sure.
The age verification they propose is not satisfied by a “Proceed” question either. It has to be done via credit card or something similar. But then again, he makes the point they have no clue how the internet works. There’s no way to police it for content hosted outside the UK, which has no obligation to conform to any act passed by our parliament, and therefore makes the entire thing ridiculous. As he says, it’s the smaller UK content providers who are going to be hurt by this. Those who produce pornography that fits in a niche, that probably isn’t created exclusively by men, for men, and isn’t necessarily hetero or vanilla. Sad.
I doubt this has anything to do with what children see or not on the internet: there are plenty of parental control things out there, and if that fails, supervision of online time would work. I’ve always thought that letting kids loose on the internet is a bit like leaving them on a street corner. But anyway, I think that’s just a convenient facade to justify a war on pornography (especially certain kinds of pornography). Yet again, I find myself wondering what the hell people have against it. They don’t have to watch, it’s easy to avoid. I’m always tempted to think that some of us are just more adult than others. *sighs*  

Not going to reproduce the article here, but I will provide a link. Wow… I hope this does not come to pass :/
The most chilling parts:
https://johnnyvoid.wordpress.com/2016/10/19/they-are-coming-for-the-internet-new-porn-and-copyright-laws-could-criminalise-millions/
Thoughts, anyone? Anyone else who comes here from the UK?

What the hell is going on in the UK?  It’s all going tits up there.

Yes, poor Maglor. I blame Tolkien, really. I mean on the one hand you have: “These are elves, who are immortal! Look at them! They are beautiful, shiny things!” and on the other you have: “...and he never came back among the people of the elves.” Me, I put those two things together and it’s more ominous than the US election.

Great to hear from you, JayDee, and I’m glad that you’re doing a lot better workwise.
I do hope you’ll get more time to write, though, and to visit the forum occasionally. You never fail to get a giggle out of me. It really hasn’t been the same without you.

Great to hear from you, JayDee, and I’m glad that you’re doing a lot better workwise.
I do hope you’ll get more time to write, though, and to visit the forum occasionally. You never fail to get a giggle out of me. It really hasn’t been the same without you.

Sorry to disappoint any necrophiles with particularly low standards.
I’m still too busy/tired to write anything but I was feeling totally Journally and don’t have a livejournal anymore so…. here I am! Personal rants and journals!
The rant portion: Frustrated not to get any writing done, and very little reading. S’a pain because writing is one thing that makes me happy!
The non-rant potion: Getting paid regularly is nice, there were a few years there where it was touch and go but not now.
The completely irrelevant portion: I liked the film Hook as a kid.
Well, that’s me done. Spirit of brevity, is JD.
Hope folks are well and such. ta-ra. and not a dig at people not getting paid regularly, hopefully things’ll work out for you.

yay! My poor week is over! I got it from Amazon.
Agree with all - the cover is brilliant!