NinjaGaijin Posted October 7, 2008 Report Posted October 7, 2008 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/06/ob...on_girls_aloud/ The Obscene Publications Act rides againTrack this topic Print story Girls Aloud case heads for court - net holds its breath By John Ozimek • Get more from this author Posted in Law, 6th October 2008 11:26 GMT The legal world is buzzing at the announcement last week of the prosecution of 35-year-old civil servant Darryn Walker for the online publication of material that Police and Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) believe to be obscene. This is the first such prosecution for written material in nearly two decades – and a guilty verdict could have a serious and significant impact on the future regulation of the internet in the UK. The case originated in summer 2007, when Mr Walker allegedly posted a work of fantasy – titled Girls (Scream) Aloud - about pop group Girls Aloud. The story describes in detail the kidnap, rape, mutilation and murder of band members Cheryl Cole, Nadine Coyle, Sarah Harding, Nicola Roberts and Kimberley Walsh, and ends with the sale of various body parts on eBay. The piece was brought to the attention of the Internet Watch Foundation, whose remit includes the monitoring of internet material deemed to be criminally obscene: they in turn handed details over to the Police. The Met’s Obscene Publications Unit are currently handling the case, which is due to come before Newcastle Crown Court on 22 October. At that point, Mr Walker will have the opportunity to enter a plea and, if he opts for “not guilty” the court will set a date for a full trial. Hard facts on this case are hard to come by, not least because it is now subject to the laws on contempt. There has been some speculation that the story was evidence of stalking intent – and also a degree of blurring between “blog” and “story”. As far as the Reg is aware, the piece for which Mr Walker is to be prosecuted is story, rather than blog. Reports suggest it was published on “the Kristen archives”, which is itself hosted by the Alt Sex Stories Text Repository (asstr). Internet veterans will be aware of the alt.sex hierarchy of discussion groups as forming part of usenet, one of the oldest surviving network comms systems still in use and pre-dating the world-wide web by over ten years. Asstr is effectively an archive of any and every story posted in alt.sex since its inception. Material hosted on this site is subject to little moderation: content ranges from the mildly pornographic to the seriously extreme, and therefore does include subjects (rape, underage sex, bestiality) that much of the population finds disturbing or distasteful. The true significance of this case – and the reason for our interest – is that it is the first prosecution under the Obscene Publications Act 1959 in respect of written content since 1991. This Act is the yardstick by which obscenity is measured in the UK: it is an offence to publish material that tends to “deprave or corrupt” its audience. Unfortunately, the Act has had a somewhat chequered history in respect of the written word. Its first major outing was in respect of Lady Chatterley’s Lover in 1960, which resulted in a resounding rebuff for the establishment view that promiscuity should be deemed obscene. Initial success in prosecuting the publishers of the Oz Schoolkids issue in 1971 was followed by a reversal on appeal. In 1976, following the acquittal of the publishers of Inside Linda Lovelace, the Metropolitan Police pretty much abandoned prosecutions against books, believing that if Inside Linda Lovelace was not obscene, then nothing was. The last such case was in 1991, when Manchester magistrate Derrick Fairclough ordered the seizure under section 3 of the OPA of David Britton’s Lord Horror. This would have allowed the book to be destroyed without jury trial. Again, the decision was overturned by the Court of Appeal. The significance of this prosecution cannot therefore be understated. At present, the UK effectively has no sanction against written material, no matter how apparently obscene. This is not the case for pictorial material, which is regularly seized, prosecuted and in many cases deemed obscene. Kirsty Brimelow, a barrister with Doughty Street Chambers, probably represents one strand of establishment thinking on this subject. Speaking to the Reg, she said: "There have been rumblings within the legal profession for some time over difficulties policing the internet. There is so much disgusting material that is easily accessible to the general public and can hardly be described as being in the public good. "The legal system needs to tackle the internet and draw the line between unsavoury material and that which should be classified as criminal. There have been other straws in the wind. During the consultation phase for the new extreme porn law, Kent Police opined that it did not go far enough and that it ought to include strictures on the possession of written material as well. Reading between the lines, this feels like a very tentative “toe in the water” on the part of the Met. After investigating the material in question, they clearly believe that this may at last be enough for a successful prosecution - they put the file before the Crown Prosecution Service, who appear to agree. The implication for UK surfers is immense. If another not guilty verdict is returned, then written material on the internet – as written material elsewhere – will return to its present near-privileged status. On the other hand, a guilty verdict could change much. This is not just because certain categories of writing could in future be deemed obscene but, as the US Supreme Court is usually keen to point out, the fear of prosecution itself is likely to cause a major chilling effect. Individuals will not write in case they overstep the Law. More on this later in the month. ® ----- I saw this on another story site, and the owner was very alarmed. I know that there are similar stories in the AFF, so you guys might want to do something... Quote
Streti Posted October 9, 2008 Report Posted October 9, 2008 it is an offence to publish material that tends to “deprave or corrupt” its audience. Alright, case is settled, everything's fine, no need to worry. Even nasty pieces of work should have a protection of expression. If there is a crime committed, that crime should be judged accordingly, but prosecuting just for imagination is quite questionable. Just because somebody can put down a nasty imaginary work doesn't mean that even the author themselves might not be disgusted with it. Just imagining nasty stuff (and writing is a way of imagining) shouldn't be a crime. And really, whoever even reads that stuff. Quote
Supersonic Bitch Posted May 19, 2009 Report Posted May 19, 2009 Just imagining nasty stuff (and writing is a way of imagining) shouldn't be a crime.And really, whoever even reads that stuff. About the first point: agreed with If there is something that really makes me shudder with abhor is the idea of a thought-crime. About the second point: I might. Violence-kicks are sometimes just love. Quote
DemonGoddess Posted May 20, 2009 Report Posted May 20, 2009 Really, if you look very hard at this, the entire reason for prosecution, I'd bet, was the fact that it was fanfiction based on real people. Quote
Psychostorm Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 Really, if you look very hard at this, the entire reason for prosecution, I'd bet, was the fact that it was fanfiction based on real people. Well there goes my Miley Cyrus rape/snuff/bestiality fic that I was planning..... Quote
JayDee Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 With this and the relatively recent American case against internet porn stories, I've sworn off writing real person fiction all together, or any sort, so I guess I've been caught by the chilling effect fully! Quote
Psychostorm Posted June 2, 2009 Report Posted June 2, 2009 With this and the relatively recent American case against internet porn stories, I've sworn off writing real person fiction all together, or any sort, so I guess I've been caught by the chilling effect fully! Ok, people, lets not panic here, I"ve got a plan. Say you want to write a Miley Cyrus porn fic like I suggested earlyer. Just change her name sllightly. Call her Milly Cyrus, and BAM, there ya go. Couple that with a disclaimer that says some shit like "The characters in this fic bear no resemblece to any living or dead person and such a resemblence is pureley conincidential" and you're good to go. You're readers get what you really mean in your fic and you've also covered your ass. Quote
JayDee Posted June 29, 2009 Report Posted June 29, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/8124059.stm A former civil servant who wrote an internet article imagining the kidnap and murder of the pop group Girls Aloud has been cleared of obscenity. Darryn Walker, 35, from South Tyneside, was charged after the blog appeared on a fantasy pornography site. He appeared at Newcastle Crown Court on Monday but was cleared after the prosecution offered no evidence. Well, he's lost his job and his life is effectively ruined, but he got off. Quote
Psychostorm Posted July 10, 2009 Report Posted July 10, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/8124059.stmA former civil servant who wrote an internet article imagining the kidnap and murder of the pop group Girls Aloud has been cleared of obscenity. Darryn Walker, 35, from South Tyneside, was charged after the blog appeared on a fantasy pornography site. He appeared at Newcastle Crown Court on Monday but was cleared after the prosecution offered no evidence. Well, he's lost his job and his life is effectively ruined, but he got off. Well he could always change his naime nad move to another conutry like Tailand, its the biggest sex tourism country in the world or so I hear. Quote
Animedevildog Posted July 31, 2009 Report Posted July 31, 2009 It's a sad state of affairs in this world when those who have power deem themselves as the ones who can "protect" people from themselves. This is why you have what happened in Britain happening all over the world. There are factions within the United States (including within the gov't) that would LOVE to see anything close to pornographic banned. They think it is "morally" wrong, and they feel it is their duty to shove their views down everyone elses throats. It goes beyond pornographic materials too. There is a growing world-wide movement to ban ALL private ownership of firearms, and they (those who wish them banned) see the United States as a prime target. There are also those who would do the same with alcohol and tobacco. The list really goes on and on. Maybe Mother Nature had the right idea when she dropped that 6 mile wide rock on this planet. It's just that maybe she should have waited about 65 million years! At the rate things in this world are going, pretty soon, EVERYTHING will be banned, and we will be living in a hell where we have zero freedoms. Sorry that this turned into a mini-rant... I have a low tolorance for the Bible thumping book burners. >:-( Quote
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