She is the One

[thismy]

I think in all the fuss over what's going on with Amanda you guys have all looked over the obvious answer here. We're still waiting on the pipe bomb incident. Now what shape do pipe bombs take? Usually rods. So, with this overwhelming evidence in mind, I think it's fair to say that Amanda is finding herself sexually attracted to pipe bombs.

Lol. Don't forget Chinese water torture.

I think we're looking at a solid return of LAJAK. Something like "LAJAK Strikes Back" Brad (rip Jeff) and the gang come in hot, with a new member or two. And the tides may have turned with Jack's numbers being diminished.

Edited February 29, 2016 by thismy

[Guest dark]

Lol. Don't forget Chinese water torture.

I think we're looking at a solid return of LAJAK. Something like "LAJAK Strikes Back" Brad (rip Jeff) and the gang come in hot, with a new member or two. And the tides may have turned with Jack's numbers being diminished.

If we have LAJAK, will "The Walrus" return? I loved your stories on "the Walrus".

[Chester57]

You'd be more right if the student had an interest in bombs and was in chemistry, which Amanda isn't taking chemistry.

As I mentioned a while back, building a pipe bomb isn't hard and you most certainly don't need a background in chemistry. By the time my neighbourhood cronies and I were out of grade school we were quite adept at constructing improvised explosive devices (purely in the interests of science, naturally). I think the pipe bomb will be built elsewhere and then smuggled into the school. More on that after I firm up my theory.

[Guest Dark]

As I mentioned a while back, building a pipe bomb isn't hard and you most certainly don't need a background in chemistry. By the time my neighbourhood cronies and I were out of grade school we were quite adept at constructing improvised explosive devices (purely in the interests of science, naturally). I think the pipe bomb will be built elsewhere and then smuggled into the school. More on that after I firm up my theory.

That's why, in Amanda's case, i see no real compelling reason for her to build and use a bomb. Now, i have a theory, a crazy one: Amanda tries to seduce Alan and fails. As she's depressed, the rejection could push her further into her depression and...well, any theories as to what could happen next, you fill in the blank.

[Chester57]

Lol. Don't forget Chinese water torture.

Speaking of that... I know there is a lot of interest by the readership in regard to the Chinese water torture. I have no idea how our intrepid author is going to handle the matter as there are literally hundreds of techniques that could be employed. However, if you require a visual description-- this is how GI Joe does it...

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[Joe Long]

Speaking of that... I know there is a lot of interest by the readership in regard to the Chinese water torture. I have no idea how our intrepid author is going to handle the matter as there are literally hundreds of techniques that could be employed. However, if you require a visual description-- this is how GI Joe does it...

Well that just looks like regular old water-boarding.

[Chester57]

Well that just looks like regular old water-boarding.

Yes, true-- water-boarding is used to get information and I know there's been a long-running debate about whether it can be technically defined as torture. I suppose that being on the receiving end would no doubt influence your opinion!

Anyway, since Jack isn't holding any valuable information it stands to reason that the CWT will be used for revenge punishment. Maybe he is successful in taking down the ring and they try to get even-- or quite possibly I'm over-thinking all this.

[Guest Dark]

For the whole 'debate' about torture, specifically whether waterboarding is a torture, i just can't believe that there's even a debate about this. Waterboarding is torture. For those still ignorant or unsure, here's some links: http://www.wsj.com/public/article/SB120174119328630495-Id_m9G5R2B_bvRC2o_l4tPFY9dg_20090130.html?mod=rss_free

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/12/John-Mccain-Speech-Senate-Republican-CIA-Torture-Report/383589/

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2008/08/hitchens200808

Basically, for those that are okay with torture; let's torture you then see how you feel about it.

Just remember, life is not like the TV show 24, though some consider it to be such.

[Joe Long]

For the whole 'debate' about torture, specifically whether waterboarding is a torture, i just can't believe that there's even a debate about this. Waterboarding is torture. For those still ignorant or unsure, here's some links: http://www.wsj.com/public/article/SB120174119328630495-Id_m9G5R2B_bvRC2o_l4tPFY9dg_20090130.html?mod=rss_free

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/12/John-Mccain-Speech-Senate-Republican-CIA-Torture-Report/383589/

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2008/08/hitchens200808

Basically, for those that are okay with torture; let's torture you then see how you feel about it.

Just remember, life is not like the TV show 24, though some consider it to be such.

I meant it as a flippant comment, that the exotically named 'Chinese water torture' maybe something quite familiar - but it seems to have touched a nerve.

The links are to people's opinions, and they are entitled to have them. However, according to US law, waterboarding is not torture, because torture is defined as causing lasting or permanent mental or physical injuries. Waterboarding induces panic attacks.

If you think waterboarding should be illegal, contact your congress person and have them change the law.

BTW, my son was waterboarded on three occasions by the US Army. It was part of his basic training.

[Guest Dark]

I meant it as a flippant comment, that the exotically named 'Chinese water torture' maybe something quite familiar - but it seems to have touched a nerve.

The links are to people's opinions, and they are entitled to have them. However, according to US law, waterboarding is not torture, because torture is defined as causing lasting or permanent mental or physical injuries. Waterboarding induces panic attacks.

If you think waterboarding should be illegal, contact your congress person and have them change the law.

BTW, my son was waterboarded on three occasions by the US Army. It was part of his basic training.

If we're going to talk about definitions, here's some great info: http://waterboarding.org/torture_definition

[Joe Long]

If we're going to talk about definitions, here's some great info: http://waterboarding.org/torture_definition

A good link.

I tend to value US law more than international treaties, but among all the entries I didn't see anything that clearly went against what I said. Waterboarding creates a panic attack. There is difference of opinion on whether that falls under the legal definition of torture. Any US president has the power to not use it, and Congress always has the ability to specifically outlaw it.

[Guest Dark]

A good link.

I tend to value US law more than international treaties, but among all the entries I didn't see anything that clearly went against what I said. Waterboarding creates a panic attack. There is difference of opinion on whether that falls under the legal definition of torture. Any US president has the power to not use it, and Congress always has the ability to specifically outlaw it.

A part of US law is those treaties we signed off on. Aside from that, http://waterboarding.org/node/3 explicitly describes what waterboarding is. If it's not torture for us, then, to be frank, we, the US, has no right to complain about people doing what we are. Then there's the eight amendment, which prohibits "cruel and unusual punishment". How is simulated drowning not cruel and unusual punishment, which is expressly forbidden by the Constitution. An induced panic attack is psychological torture, plus physiological torture as one's being drowned. Plus, here's an informed opinion:

http://dailyfreepress.com/2016/02/08/waterboarding-torture-contrary-gop-claims/

and what waterboarding is:http://waterboarding.org/info

we punished the japanese in WW2 for doing this. I just can't see how people say it's okay if we do it, yet when "the enemy does it", it's wrong. Basically the problem of good by definition.

[Joe Long]

A part of US law is those treaties we signed off on.

we punished the japanese in WW2 for doing this. I just can't see how people say it's okay if we do it, yet when "the enemy does it", it's wrong. Basically the problem of good by definition.

You make good arguments. I lean towards allowing it, but in this discussion I was being more of a legal pedant rather than an advocate.

[Guest Dark]

You make good arguments. I lean towards allowing it, but in this discussion I was being more of a legal pedant rather than an advocate.

I lean towards the banning of it (allowing it in the case of training soldiers to better resist it, though torture has been shown to get no real information worth anything) and was also being more of a legal pedant. You can see that if it's allowed, then the whole slippery slope of what else could be allowed. That, and the standards i believe the US should follow instead of just doing what we've been doing and saying we're against torture though we reguraly cast aside the Constitution and any other legal documents which we've ratified when convenient. Last bit of info before we can call this a day: http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/judicial/269007-torture-and-presidential-candidates

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/news-blog/does-waterboarding-have-long-term-p-2009-05-01/

http://www.salon.com/2015/12/05/and_they_gave_cheney_a_statue_heres_the_honest_history_of_waterboarding/

http://waterboarding.org/how-to

http://waterboarding.org/node/43-thissays Obama ended it, but considering how we still have an extra-judicial system (GITMO) in place, and the shady people we have in office, i highly doubt we've stopped doing what the Senate Reports outlined.

[Guest Dark]

I lean towards the banning of it (allowing it in the case of training soldiers to better resist it, though torture has been shown to get no real information worth anything) and was also being more of a legal pedant. You can see that if it's allowed, then the whole slippery slope of what else could be allowed. That, and the standards i believe the US should follow instead of just doing what we've been doing and saying we're against torture though we reguraly cast aside the Constitution and any other legal documents which we've ratified when convenient. Last bit of info before we can call this a day: http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/judicial/269007-torture-and-presidential-candidates

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/news-blog/does-waterboarding-have-long-term-p-2009-05-01/

http://www.salon.com/2015/12/05/and_they_gave_cheney_a_statue_heres_the_honest_history_of_waterboarding/

http://waterboarding.org/how-to

http://waterboarding.org/node/43 This says Obama ended it, but considering how we still have an extra-judicial system (GITMO) in place, and the shady people we have in office, i highly doubt we've stopped doing what the Senate Reports outlined.

Accidentally messed up with the last link.

[Joe Long]

Do the civilian courts have a role in what should be military affairs? I would accept a third party review of probable cause to make sure a prisoner belongs in custody (when sometimes it might be hard to distinguish who is a combatant), but I also believe blurring the line between criminal and military degrades the mission. It seems to be OK if we kill them on the battlefield, or even drone them, but once in custody they need a civilian trial to show they've broken a law?

And I'll be glad to go back to discussing teenage sex anytime yunz want. We're being civil, so far, but I understand if this isn't what folks want to read.

Edited March 2, 2016 by Joe Long

[Guest Dark]

Do the civilian courts have a role in what should be military affairs? I would accept a third party review of probable cause to make sure a prisoner belongs in custody (when sometimes it might be hard to distinguish who is a combatant), but I also believe blurring the line between criminal and military degrades the mission. It seems to be OK if we kill them on the battlefield, or even drone them, but once in custody they need a civilian trial to show they've broken a law?

And I'll be glad to go back to discussing teenage sex anytime yunz want. We're being civil, so far, but I understand if this isn't what folks want to read.

Honestly, let's go back to discussing teenage sex. The further we go, the higher the chances this'll turn bad (on my part, i'll admit). Speaking of teenage sex, does anyone think Alan and Kelly have done it yet? That gave me an idea. Amanda catches Alan and Kelly together, feels betrayed, and...fill in the blank with whatever works.

[Guest Dark]

A question that's been on everyone's mind: where did Amanda get those hand-cuffs? Any theories?

[that-one-guy]

A question that's been on everyone's mind: where did Amanda get those hand-cuffs? Any theories?

You can buy those sort of handcuffs in a lot of regular shops that I know of. Don't exactly think you need ID to buy something that could be used for a Halloween costume

[Joe Long]

jashley has mentioned Joe Hayes being into word working, as is his father. Do school still have shop class (industrial arts)?

I just saw on Facebook that out Shop teacher from Junior High had passed away. Reading the comments, I didn't remember that girls took shop too (even if he referred to all the students as 'boys').

Here's a sample -

Tim...He paddled me in 7th grade

Matt...You probably deserved it

Tim...I did, I was goofing off instead of paying attention

Cynthia...He helped me to build a little box. Cherry wood, satin finish. I still have it. . . somewhere

Mary Beth...Me too!

Diane...I remember learning basic plumbing and electrical repairs from him.

Becky...I always liked him! Still remember the plumbing and electrical repairs!

Linda...Technical drawing, he was awesome.

Laurie...He helped me to build shelves

Mitch... "ok boysss, get your projects, and let's go" i can still hear him.

[Joe Long]

You can buy those sort of handcuffs in a lot of regular shops that I know of. Don't exactly think you need ID to buy something that could be used for a Halloween costume

Spencer's? http://www.spencersonline.com/category/naughty/cuffs-restraints/pc/2352/2387.uts

I have an upcoming scene at Spencer's Gifts at the mall, where it's toned down (a little bit)

[Guest Dark]

jashley has mentioned Joe Hayes being into word working, as is his father. Do school still have shop class (industrial arts)?

I just saw on Facebook that out Shop teacher from Junior High had passed away. Reading the comments, I didn't remember that girls took shop too (even if he referred to all the students as 'boys').

Here's a sample -

Tim...He paddled me in 7th grade

Matt...You probably deserved it

Tim...I did, I was goofing off instead of paying attention

Cynthia...He helped me to build a little box. Cherry wood, satin finish. I still have it. . . somewhere

Mary Beth...Me too!

Diane...I remember learning basic plumbing and electrical repairs from him.

Becky...I always liked him! Still remember the plumbing and electrical repairs!

Linda...Technical drawing, he was awesome.

Laurie...He helped me to build shelves

Mitch... "ok boysss, get your projects, and let's go" i can still hear him.

i can say for sure my school didn't have shop class. Now, is Joe still suspect for the pipe bomb theory?

[Chester57]

A question that's been on everyone's mind: where did Amanda get those hand-cuffs? Any theories?

You can buy those sort of handcuffs in a lot of regular shops that I know of. Don't exactly think you need ID to buy something that could be used for a Halloween costume

First of all, my post with the simulated waterboarding pic was intended as tongue-in-cheek (I've been told that I have a morbid sense of humour). I sincerely apologize if anyone was offended.

I went back and read the sections of Chapters 4 and 5 where Jack was cuffed to his bed. From the narrative I got the impression that the handcuffs were genuine restraint devices and not some cheap knock-off you can pick up in a novelty store or sex shop. It has also been noted that Jack has impressive upper-body strength and could no doubt easily break cheap handcuffs-- if not the bed itself. So where could Amanda get two pairs of "real" handcuffs? Well, there are any number of online law-enforcement supply companies only a few mouse clicks away.

One technical note for those so inclined-- it really isn't possible to secure the legs of an adult male by using handcuffs as they would probably be too small. You need a proper set of leg cuffs. They're larger and have a longer length of chain.

[that-one-guy]

My school had a sort of shop class, we didn't do plumbing or anything specific just basic woodwork and metalwork

[Joe Long]

I have a scene written where a group goes into Spencer's at the mall. I personally haven't been in one for a long time. I know they sell dildos online, but does anyone know if they sell them in the stores? (where kids might wander in and come upon them) I do remember them selling edible panties in the store. One of my characters is going to be mysoginistic and needs a prop.