adultfanfiction.net in Wikipedia

[madlodger]

I was reading a topic called:

Corporations!? in my Wikipedia? UNPOSSIBLE!

which made me go and check if AFF had an article in it. It doesn't. The search for adult-fanfiction.org produced two results:

FanFiction.Net

Alternative universe (fan fiction)

The discussion about this was a bit off topic and foeofthelance suggested starting a new thread in the Bubble *hugs foe*

So, here it is, the ultimate question:

Should we or shouldn't we?

What is your opinion about this? Do sites owners and moderators like this idea? Who will write the article to post on Wiki if the idea meets approval? Does AFF want to keep low profile and would we get an influx of new people which would tamper with this community? Would servers handle the possible influx (which might never happen, who knows)

[teeta]

Hmm, the matter is serious, too serious to be jumping into without a parachute. Having the said article written for Wikipedia would definitely have a major influence and I'm not really sure if it'd be a GOOD influence. Madlodger, you pointed the server problems (and I think it WILL happen) and I think there is this case of keeping low profile because you NEVER know WHO might just come our way (I wouldn't want AFF to be shut down!). I'm all for advertising (that's the ultimate goal of this article) but would it be worth its price?

Therefore, a serious consideration is the option I chose.

[madlodger]

teeta - excellent and valid points. The server capability question did bother me (not what I know any specifics on that, of course) adult-fanfiction.org IS mentioned in the Fanfiction.Net article and it didn't seem to cause problems. It's a dead link in wiki called: "AdultFanFiction.Net".

The link to adult-fanfiction.org is located on the bottom of the Fanfiction.Net article in External links

[Guest Big Samurai]

This one needs to be discussed at length, IMO. There are major advantages to keeping a low public profile when one is a 'ficcer, and I imagine that goes for a whole 'fic community, as well.

[madlodger]

Very true, however the direct link to AFF is posted on the bottom of FFN wiki article, as well as the empty wiki link, so it's been out there for a while. Literotica has a small page in wiki. MuggleNet is there as well. Ficwad and MediaMiner.org don't have a wiki article but do have a direct link posted in FFN article. Direct link to FictionPress is posted on the bottom of FFN article as well.

[Leonhart29]

It's an idea - but it would have to be thought about, and discussed before any action takes place. There are some of us that have jobs that would be put in jeopardy if they found out we wrote adult themed fan fiction. Then there are those of us that are single parents and have to worry about the other parent making a stink about it. I know that with our handles we are pretty much anonymous - but there are always ways of finding out who's who (I point to the IP address tracking program). I don't mind, but I also have to think about others and what it could do to them.

[Guest Agaib]

This poll is deceptive... it seems to almost imply that this website has control over whether or not a Wikipedia article is created. Someone could create an article about AFF without consent with ease.

I highly doubt that the creation of a Wikipedia article would really increase traffic very much. However, I'd like to see an article made for the simple fact that it would aid the Wikipedia cause (which I personally like).

[Guest Serenanna]

Um, guys. We're in the spotlight already whether we want it or not given the sheer number of articles that mention Harry Potter fanfiction in general with the books ending. I've even seen one mention writing fanfics as an activity for how to get kids over the finality of the last book. A few articles even mention slash fics.

One Google search brings us up anyway as the first link of looking for 'adult fanfiction'. Whether we like it or not, we're gonna be and probably already have been stumbled upon by people that think negatively about what we do.

If we're gonna do this, we should preface the opening pages of the site so that people know what the heck they're diving into, what fanfics are, and what we're all about about as a site. That's just my opinion though. If we don't do a wiki, and don't watch out for one, who knows who will say what about us. Uber Pit of Voles, anyone?

Sere

[ladydeathfaerie]

allow me to toss my two knuts worth in here for a moment.

while i'm sure some people don't see a problem with creating an article for AFF on Wikpedia.... the decision do to such a thing will ultimately be made by the owners and the mods of the site.

valid points have been brought up by all. server issues which, thank DA and whatever deity is listening, are pretty much gone at this point. DA spent alot of time fixing bad code so that we could have the entire site back. not just for reading, but for updating and posting new stuff, too.

words can never, EVER, express how greatful we are for all of DA's hard and dedicated work.

there is also the issue of legality. disclaimers on the fics aside, all of us who write fan fiction could be in big trouble if we attracted some really big attention. now, granted, there are some authors who don't mind. we all know Jo Rowling knows that there is fan fiction circulating about her books. she also knows that there's some pretty racy, adult stuff out there. but i don't know that we need to wave a red flag to attract more attention.

so, even if a Wiki article sounds like a good idea... there is much discussion that will need to go into just agreeing to write one. us main site mods (including myself, cos i'm certainly not modding anything here ) will talk everything out. rest assured, we do it because we love the site and we want to protect everyone here.

[NightScribe]

I personally don't mind that there's no article on Wikipedia. I share the opinion of Big Sam about the advantages to keeping a low profile; not just to protect ficcers in general, but given the adult nature of the stories here, I'm even more protective. The site seems to have attracted people all right so far without it; I got here via Google.

I'm thinking of this scenario: some kid becomes interested in ficcing. His/her parents hit Wiki to find out more about it and, good Lord, Harold!, there's some filthy, pornographic site out there, with stories about Batman being gay, Jane Austen characters being raped, and those underage Harry Potter characters having sex with teachers!

Just my opinion and, yes, I'm a pessimist and a cynic.

[ArkaineX55]

Rather odd that my thread back at the news subforum would create this. I'm kinda proud

That being said: I don't mind if there is an article or not. I kinda like the attention it has right now. We all know what happens when there are too much people on one site, do we?

I can easily see that situation that NightScribe posted. I would object however that parents are less likely to see AFF though.

Yeah, I know about the AFF link in the FF.net Wiki as well, so that last line may be void...

Just my cents on the table.

Edited August 24, 2007 by ArkaineX55

[Kyouryoku Senshi]

They have practically everything on wiki, they may as well have aff.net on there as well. I see my boyfriend on that site all the time looking up info. Lol

[Acal]

(I point to the IP address tracking program).

Mind that those programs are illegal and break the Privacy Act, only the Government has the authority to overide Privacy laws and also only in certain circumstances