Saw this thread and thought I post as the new guy on campus. I heard this story so many times before, we all hate mary/gary sues because they just ooze perfection with a haunted past which only makes them absorb even more power. And I'm pretty sure it's considered self insertion am I correct. But what about stories with canons that take them to the extreme with power, perfection and so forth. But hold on, there is a good back story and a good reason for them to constantly get power. It's a good qualitiy story line, plot just with a canon character as the driver. Also, what if the OC created as a Mary Sue is done for humor purposes. Like for example, I got this story, where the guy is uber powerful, for shit and giggles, but also to pick up chicks and have hilarious sex. The main point isn't about him having the greatest powers that can't be imaginable, but for the sex and the humor. SO my question, would you guys hate a gary sue, in a story like that? And I'm not a crappy writer, I just made the story for shit and giggles and self pleasure.