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Tsunade's gambling debts come back to haunt her.

As a result, she is tricked into signing a contract that basically forces her to work off her debt as an unwilling prostitute for the wealthy and powerful.

Inspired by wierdmeijin's "The Fifth's Long Week", which sadly up and disappeared into the ether a few years back, along with several other excellent pieces that he simply never finished.

With this piece, I aim to write it, and finish it, in a way that can reasonably fit it into the Narutoverse canon. critical feedback is and always will be welcome. Haters and trolls... well, you're not welcome at all but it's not like I can do much to keep you out, can I. I can only appeal to your greater humanity for mercy... maybe.

Edit: Shit, forgot to put in the title that this is a review response thread. Admins? A little help?

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Just finished a 50,000 word writing spree!

Already, this story has taken turns down several paths that I hadn't foreseen. Many ideas and plot directions just happened on their own literally with less than 500 word's notice. I'd be taking Tsunade towards one plot point that I had planned out 3000 words prior, but suddenly realize there's an alternative that is way better.

Inspiration is awesome when it's in overdrive. Bottom line is, caffeine is a wonderful thing.

Although I've just finished the rough draft for chapter 10, I'm holding off on publishing everything at once because of this.

The lot redirection, new story elements from chapter to chapter, has resulted in a few inconsistencies on top of the silly grammar mistakes that my caffeine fueled type fest has left in. I need to do a bit of house cleaning before chapters 6-10 can be individually posted.

The pace has slowed down quite a bit though, which makes this a good time to ask for reader feedback.

Your reviews absolutely have an effect on the direction of the plot. I'm not begging for reviews here to boost the meaningless review count. I'm asking for honest critiques as to whether the direction I'm taking this story in is a good one. When you review, there's no need to stroke my ego. What did you like, what didn't you like, what would you like to see happen, are there grammar or mistakes that I missed.

Whether it's reviews in the story link or a post in this thread, I'll be responding to all feedback, and using that feedback to better write The Legendary Sucker Chronicles.

Enjoy!

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Since you asked for scenes from The 5th's Long Week that we'd like to see in your re-imagining, one chapter does stick out in my memory. Remember when Sakura eventually finds out about the arrangement and gets angry at Tsunade? Tsunade then gets tied to a tree and Sakura spends the night yanking out her pubic hairs one by one, leaving her ex-mentor a sweat-drenched, exhausted mess by sunrise. There was also something to do with chakra in that segment, but I can't remember the details. Anyway, kind of a unique scene, was hoping you were planning to incorporate a version of it in your story.

Good luck with this one either way. Looks like you're off to a great start.

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At some point, Chapter 4, which has no story and was written as a mini research project by me to find out real world equivalents to the ryo currenc in Narutoverse, is probably going to be moved either here or just deleted.

So this is a strictly informational post, which is going to be very relevant within two chapters.

In my version of Narutoverse in which this story takes place, here is how much a ryo is worth.

1ryo= 1.6 cents

1USD= 62.5 ryo.

10,000 ryo= $160 USD

1 million ryo= $16,000 USD

100 million ryo= $1,600,000 USD

Tsunade's Hokage salary = $200,000 USD or 12.5 million ryo

so on and so forth.

Chapter 4, which may or may not become a forum post later, explains how I came to this conclusion.

Economics plays a very concrete role in The Legendary Sucker Chronicles, so the purchasing power of everything absolutely matters. When the price of something is mentioned, there is a reason for it.

In other news, just because I have chapters 6-10 written does not mean the plot of the entire fic itself is set. 6-10 is a comprehensive arc that starts Tsunade into the world of Kunio, setting up a lot of necessary back bone for future arcs or subplots.

It is highly advised to read everything that is written, because I guarantee the sex is way better if given context, and chances are those of you who skipped even the smallest sections may end up needlessly confused. I'll admit I'm sometimes guilty of jumping forward to the sex scenes of other author's works. 99% of the time though I go back and reread the non-sexy bits, and usually, end up kicking myself for not having read it the way the author had designed it.

Onto spoilers for those who take the time to read this post, don't read past this point if you don't like things being spoiled.

SPOILER ALERT:

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  On 9/26/2015 at 4:03 PM, Maiteya2 said:

Since you asked for scenes from The 5th's Long Week that we'd like to see in your re-imagining, one chapter does stick out in my memory. Remember when Sakura eventually finds out about the arrangement and gets angry at Tsunade? Tsunade then gets tied to a tree and Sakura spends the night yanking out her pubic hairs one by one, leaving her ex-mentor a sweat-drenched, exhausted mess by sunrise. There was also something to do with chakra in that segment, but I can't remember the details. Anyway, kind of a unique scene, was hoping you were planning to incorporate a version of it in your story.

Good luck with this one either way. Looks like you're off to a great start.

Yeah I remember that scene.

The antagonist uses chakra to reinforce Tsunade's hair roots, so that each root is ten times harder to pull out, causing 10 times the pain (I might be fudging the multiplier here). Sakura, for whatever reason, is furious to discover her teacher is a slut, so uses the public hair pulling as both torture as well as strength training (honesty though, even 10 times the resistance doesn't make hair pulling that hard....maybe it was 100times?)

While I can promise you other female characters will be having their own sexcapades, keep in mind that in my rendition of this story, everything still has to go full circle to fit back into Naruto canon. In that case, it would be highly improbable that Sakura would find out (or if she did, remember) Tsunade's sexy times in this narrative.

The same goes for other female characters. I have a few explanations for how some of them might make it into the post time skip acting like nothing is wrong, but others I haven't quite sorted out yet, so until I do, I'm going to be very slow to bring more female leads in. In the end, it's just so much easier to work with original characters because they're blank slates.

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Hey, there… I just noticed your previous post, with the spoilers, and wanted to let you know that you can hide those spoilers, leaving one of those little clickable thingies to reveal the spoiler for those who want to see it, while leaving it hidden from those who don't want to see.

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I'm honestly dying to try that feature out myself, but wanted to let you know of it, so you can hide spoilers from view :D:yes: Okies, I'll admit it, I tried the feature out, just to see if it works. :blush:

Happy writing.

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  On 9/26/2015 at 5:34 PM, WillowDarkling said:

Hey, there… I just noticed your previous post, with the spoilers, and wanted to let you know that you can hide those spoilers, leaving one of those little clickable thingies to reveal the spoiler for those who want to see it, while leaving it hidden from those who don't want to see.

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I'm honestly dying to try that feature out myself, but wanted to let you know of it, so you can hide spoilers from view :D:yes: Okies, I'll admit it, I tried the feature out, just to see if it works. :blush:

Happy writing.

what what what?!?!

Do I use <spoiler> or something?

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  On 9/26/2015 at 6:35 PM, WillowDarkling said:

Click on the little "show" button, and then you can see how to do it…

Lol just as I suspected, you use <spoiler>, then at the end add spoiler/ to end it

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Your explanation in chapter 4 reminds me of a comedy where Naruto manages to secure all of Tsunade's debt (not that she knows it's him). And when she refuses to make any payments, he kidnaps Shizune and leaves a memo that given how much someone of Shizune's ability is worth, factoring out room and board costs, Tsunade's debt would be paid off in roughly a thousand years of Shizune working for him. Think he eventually took pretty much all of Konoha's ninjas but "graciously" allows them to be used by Konoha, except doing so prevents the debt from decreasing and actually increases it since they're being hired from him now.[/size]

I remember that episode, although I'm discounting it as non-canon due to its anime-only status. I'm a pretty stalwart proponent of manga-only canon, unless an anime episode actually does work to portray legitimate history, aka Shisui Uchiha's character arc.[/size]

That being said, Chapter 1 of this fic was entirely informed by Tsunade's propensity as a debt dodger, which was why she was coerced into signing that chakra contract.

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Wow you get really prolific in short bursts, huh? Glad you're remaking the 5th Long Week, was always a favorite of mine. Looking forward to see your spin on this![/size]

IRL stuff is almost always the culprit these days. If I had it my way, my days would be 20% videogames and youtube, 20% perving out to the works of other artists, and 50% writing (smut or otherwise). The last 10% is time spent drinking caffeine.[/size]

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Really enjoying the story so far and am looking forward to seeing where it is going from here. I was just wondering if there is going to be any Body Modification in the future for Tsunade or not?[/size]

B-mod, especially in this story, has great utility in accomplishing short term goals. Since Tsunade can heal from any superficial damage anyways, it also negates the problems with long term effects on B-mod, so she could very well have massive hoops through her nips in one chapter, then not have piercings in the next. The humiliation potential for B-mod when coupled with exhibition is also a consideration. So in short, yes, B-mod is 95% going to happen, but it won't be gratuitous, since everything Kunio does has a motive.[/size] Edited by MorbidFantasy
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Just wait until he finds out tsunades life hasn't been all sunshine and roses. She lost her loved ones she thoughtshe was the last senju when I think under other circumstances she would have been happy to find out she had family left. I know from experience that being an orphan is no joke. Heck you could even have a chap where she explains that she searched for senju and she once followed a rumour about a flower girl and her brother but when she got the place they supposedly lived there was no one there. I make this suggestion because as an orphan I find it hard to believe that she wouldn't try to find members of her family no matter how distant. I like the story its not just porn it has a nice plotline as well. That and the dude has to realize at some point that his anger is misplaced and I hope he realizes this before its too late for them to be a family. Although depending on your tsunade it might be too late. Again nice story and looking forward to seeing new chapters

That's a very good point, and a very fascinating perspective offered by someone with actual experience as an orphan. Thanks for sharing your personal thoughts on the matter.

When I started writing this fic, I wasn't 100% sure Tsunade was an orphan or not. So much of Narutoverse simply remains unfilled in or ambiguous. However, upon googling naruto.wikia, it appears that the clan name Senju has fallen into disuse and is only recognized in the history books.

There's a huge narrative discord in this, because the way kishi had portrayed it, the Uchiha and Senju were the very first 2 clans to join Konoha, and it looked like both were quite numerous. It took years of deliberate segregation culminating in a massacre for the Uchiha to become extinct. Meanwhile, the Senju were revered and looked up to as the clan to lead the village. Given that, it seems absurd from a narrative perspective that the Senju have become extinct.

My personal explanation for this is that the Senju haven't become extinct. Rather, in the vein of Hashirama's goal of absolute equality and unity, the Senju chose not to have its own clan-building and center (like the Hyuuga or Uchiha did), and rather just assimilated into the rest of Konoha. Thus, it may be that the last name Senju has simply become so ordinary that not many people know of its significance anymore in the modern age.

This assimilation would also explain why Kunio and his sister got left by the wayside, as without a clan center and a place for the clan to congregate it's essentially every Senju for him/herself.

I really do like your idea of Kunio finding out that Tsunade did search for her own clansmen, but I think he's already done the research, and seen that the Senju simply didn't band together and prioritize taking care of their own. Rather, it is only Tsunade's unique position as the Shodaime's progeny that made her at all special, which legitimizes Kunio's fury.

In fact, I'm counting on Kunio to have done some thorough research into his claims, and, like what typically happens when someone very fanatically angry about his life is, has ignored any facts that doesn't support his viewpoint or twisted the interpretation of those facts to suit his preferred narrative.

In light of your review I ended up making several modifications to the upcoming chapters: details that would lead into future plot lines.

Cheers.

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Chapter 7 is up, here were my thoughts during writing:

Up until the very end, I was going to have Tsunade walk home in the dark butt nekkid and stuff, too tired to realize she didn't even make it to Kunio's office, which would result in some punishment.

Then it became more logical that Tanaka and his gang wouldn't just let this fuck toy off after one day, so I wrote in the ending with her being immediately recaptured by Shit-for-brains and the underlings under the auspices that only Tanaka promised her her freedom, but gave his men have free reign right then.

The word I'd use to sum up this entire chapter is "Unfairness"

Same goes for the whole price-gouging scene. Internally, the math was just taking 14hoursX6peopleX12500ryo/hour to get the first number, then work down from there. Brothel versus street side hooking prices in Vegas were used.

Tsunade makes 12.5million ryo a year, which is just over 34,000 ryo/day, so once I arrived at 100,000 ryo I decided to further slash it down under that number for the sake of humiliation.

The biggest problem with having written chapters 5-10 in rapid succession is that I probably changed my mind on at least two or three plot details in each chapter, which ended up messing up certain continuities. This chapter was especially so, as I kept getting the names of individual men mixed up for no good reason.

Here are the spoilers for Chapter 8, which will go up as soon as I find the time to give it a final once over:

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Out of curiosity, anyway to get any Naruko in this, or is it Tsunade only? For that matter anyway to get any of the other Naruto girls in there. Considering the grudge they seem to have against the clans, maybe Ino or Hinata.

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  On 10/2/2015 at 8:11 AM, Guest said:

Out of curiosity, anyway to get any Naruko in this, or is it Tsunade only? For that matter anyway to get any of the other Naruto girls in there. Considering the grudge they seem to have against the clans, maybe Ino or Hinata.

A big problem with bringing other females into this story continues to be the fact that I'm trying to fit this entire story in between the timeskip.

In Naruko's case, that means Naruto's off on that training trip with Jiraiya and not even present in the village.

The grudge against the clans will of course be covered at some point.

Of course, given the fact that the baddies have two sharingan users I plan on including genjutsu chapters where Tsunade is forced into nightmarish scenarios, in which anything can happen, so who knows, Naruko may yet be possible.

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I must admit the first time I read this, I was expecting them to use their control of Tsunade to get at the girls. After all as the Hokage she has control over where ninja are assigned.

  • 4 weeks later...
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finally i was waiting for another tsunade gambling debt story ever since weridmeijin went silent

any change we get to see more girls

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  On 12/18/2015 at 7:06 PM, thonas said:

Can I be. In the story

Email me a character bio and ill see what happens.

Irl got in the way again but now I'm back due to time freeing up. Hopefully will do another writing spree lol. Ended up scrapping the original updates as is my modus operandis.

Also going to update fmc concurrently since ideas are coming in.

Cheers.

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Guest Guest2018
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It's been a couple years since your last update, but I was wondering if you were planning on continuing the story? I know that, in some previous chapters' forewords, you mentioned some critics, and it sounded pretty discouraging, so I just wanted to say that I've been enjoying the story thus far, and I'm just itching to read more! 

 

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