God's self image

[Keith Inc.]

I get into a discussion with someone about The Books porn.

Well, it started with an assertion that by being cynical skeptics we lose our creativity.

I suggest that he compare Mel's Fanfic snuff flick: The Passion to The Gold Compass. Which was more creative, which was more derivative?

Then he wants to argue that you can't have The Books fanfic. Not shouldn't, that you can't.

I show him mine.

THEN he says that i'm not ever, ever going to be washed in the blood of the Lamb. Well, among other things he promises/threatens.

Ick.

We establish that God demanded a blood sacrifice to himself and sent himself to earth to be that blood sacrifice so the blood of the lamb is god blood. And that's apparently a GOOD thing?

Somehow, the idea that god uses his own blood being spilled to make things better, makes me point out that that makes God, technically, a cutter.

Any other self-image issues we should know about for this guy?

I mean, he's a user. Noah gets off the boat, sets 6 pairs of the Clean animals afire, God takes a hit on the smoke and gets all maudlin ("I should never have killed Mankind for being wicked. Mankind's always going to be wicked. He's made that way.")(There's always one guy at the party, right? Gets a few hits of the smoke, starts regretting a past relationship, cries about a girlfriend that he screwed over or something).

What's next?

[shinigamiinochi]

God is a mix between a spoiled child (you will only listen to me! I am the only correct thing in the universe!!! *sticks out tongue*) and an abusive, alcoholic father (if you don't do exactly what I tell you, I will kill you!). The main, huge reason why I can't believe in God is not that there is no proof (though that is the second reason) it is that I refuse to believe in anything that tries to control my life. That whole, you have to do exactly what I tell you or you will go to hell doesn't stick with me. I'd rather do what I believe is right, not what God believes and go to hell than just blindly following His rules. My friend and I had this discussion and she mentioned that if she was a child reading the bible, she would think that God acted like a spoiled brat/abusive alcoholic because he just keeps threatening people that don't believe in him. I actually think that not believing in God has made me more creative, because I can still write fiction about God, but I don't follow any rules of a certain religion about what He is supposed to be like. He's also highly idealistic, not everyone wants to be saved. Hell, not everyone's ideas of 'sin' is the same. My mom thinks watching hentai is a sin, so I should pray to Jesus to be absolved. Well, I think that her blatant homophobia is a sin, so there. Then there's the fact that he is a hypocrit. You can't kill, but if you meet someone who doesn't believe in me, go ahead! According to the classical idea of God, he is all knowing, all powerful, and kind. So, if this idea is true, he cannot let evil survive, so either he's a dickhead and likes watching us suffer, he's not all knowing or all powerful, or he has some weird plan for evil and suffering that will make everything better for us. If this is the case, he is also like a parent who, when asked why the sky is blue or where babies come from, says that 'I'll tell you when you're older', but they don't, they just wait for you to figure it out on your own. He also strikes me as either naiive or forgetful or possibly just stupid. In the garden of Eden, satan possessed the snake, or the snake was evil to begin with depending on what bible you read, and God punished the snake. If it was satan, why did the snake get punished? if the snake was evil, getting rid of its legs didn't really do anything, if at all, it just made things easier for the serpent. Then there was the flood business. If God was trying to wipe out ALL the animals, did he just conveniently forget about things like whales and sharks? God is also a slave owner. 'Angels' are basically his slaves, they do all of his bidding for no payment what so ever, and if they step out of line like Lucifel did, there wings get ripped off and they get kicked out of heaven. Sounds like slavery to me. Hell, all satan wanted was to be equal to god, is that so wrong? So, if you take the Bible literally, God has a ton of personality issues. I wonder if he sees a heavenly therapist? But, that would negate the whole 'I am God and better than anyone and anything and no one can tell me differently' thing. I guess the lesson here is, don't take the Bible literally or it will start messing with your brain. For example, my cousin went to church with us one day and we were doing the whole communion, this is the blood, this is the flesh thing.

Cousin: Dude, CPC

Me: Eh?

Cousin: Christianity Promotes Cannibalism

Jesus might have been God, but while he was on earth, he was still considered human. Therefore, if you take the Bible literally, then communion is just eating and drinking a person. So, don't take it literally. This rant was brought to you by the fact that at two in the morning, I go a little crazy. Nyu.

[Shinju]

God is a mix between a spoiled child (you will only listen to me! I am the only correct thing in the universe!!! *sticks out tongue*) and an abusive, alcoholic father (if you don't do exactly what I tell you, I will kill you!). The main, huge reason why I can't believe in God is not that there is no proof (though that is the second reason) it is that I refuse to believe in anything that tries to control my life. That whole, you have to do exactly what I tell you or you will go to hell doesn't stick with me. I'd rather do what I believe is right, not what God believes and go to hell than just blindly following His rules. My friend and I had this discussion and she mentioned that if she was a child reading the bible, she would think that God acted like a spoiled brat/abusive alcoholic because he just keeps threatening people that don't believe in him. I actually think that not believing in God has made me more creative, because I can still write fiction about God, but I don't follow any rules of a certain religion about what He is supposed to be like. He's also highly idealistic, not everyone wants to be saved. Hell, not everyone's ideas of 'sin' is the same. My mom thinks watching hentai is a sin, so I should pray to Jesus to be absolved. Well, I think that her blatant homophobia is a sin, so there. Then there's the fact that he is a hypocrit. You can't kill, but if you meet someone who doesn't believe in me, go ahead! According to the classical idea of God, he is all knowing, all powerful, and kind. So, if this idea is true, he cannot let evil survive, so either he's a dickhead and likes watching us suffer, he's not all knowing or all powerful, or he has some weird plan for evil and suffering that will make everything better for us. If this is the case, he is also like a parent who, when asked why the sky is blue or where babies come from, says that 'I'll tell you when you're older', but they don't, they just wait for you to figure it out on your own. He also strikes me as either naiive or forgetful or possibly just stupid. In the garden of Eden, satan possessed the snake, or the snake was evil to begin with depending on what bible you read, and God punished the snake. If it was satan, why did the snake get punished? if the snake was evil, getting rid of its legs didn't really do anything, if at all, it just made things easier for the serpent. Then there was the flood business. If God was trying to wipe out ALL the animals, did he just conveniently forget about things like whales and sharks? God is also a slave owner. 'Angels' are basically his slaves, they do all of his bidding for no payment what so ever, and if they step out of line like Lucifel did, there wings get ripped off and they get kicked out of heaven. Sounds like slavery to me. Hell, all satan wanted was to be equal to god, is that so wrong? So, if you take the Bible literally, God has a ton of personality issues. I wonder if he sees a heavenly therapist? But, that would negate the whole 'I am God and better than anyone and anything and no one can tell me differently' thing. I guess the lesson here is, don't take the Bible literally or it will start messing with your brain. For example, my cousin went to church with us one day and we were doing the whole communion, this is the blood, this is the flesh thing.

Cousin: Dude, CPC

Me: Eh?

Cousin: Christianity Promotes Cannibalism

Jesus might have been God, but while he was on earth, he was still considered human. Therefore, if you take the Bible literally, then communion is just eating and drinking a person. So, don't take it literally. This rant was brought to you by the fact that at two in the morning, I go a little crazy. Nyu.

Wow, to me, God is none of those things. Wait, just hear me out. For some reason you believe God is what all these other people tell you he is, and why should you believe any of them??? Can they back it up with any tangible proof other than their word and the word of others? The Bible wasn't written by God or Jesus, it was written by a bunch of men talking about their interpretations of God and Jesus. Men who were fallible, most likely prejudiced human beings who lived in a completely different time and therefore subject to the "blinders" of those times. Plus the fact that there are many books that did not make it into our modern day Bible, and how do we know that the right ones got selected?

The body and blood of Christ thing is just symbolism (he is the Earth, and grain and grapes come from the Earth) and the general theory today is that the Garden of Eden is just a metaphor.

I guess what it all comes down to is, who do you think God is? If you still don't want to believe in God, then more power to you. I am one of the few that believe that we can all coincide no matter what our beliefs, and I don't believe people get sent to hell just for believing certain things. All I'm saying is that just because you don't want to define your beliefs to the beliefs of other people doesn't mean you need to believe in nothing.

[Shinju]

^^ Unless you want to, of course

[greenwizard]

I agree with Shinju. The bible was written by man based on man's interpritation. The Christians say that that's what kind of God he is. It was the Christian church that said 'we are an authority on God and you must listen to us and give us money and land if you want salvation.'

I say screw that. I believe in God. I also believe that whoever wrote the bible was smoking crack. Personal opinion people... And then there are the Dead Sea Scrolls. They don't contradict everything that's in the bible, but they contradict a lot.

Finally, consider the fact that the bible has been translated several times. Go to freetranslation.com and just put in a random sentence. Have it translated into any language you want, and then back to English. Even then it won't be the same sentence. But translate it to a different language and then back again. It won't even be close to the same sentence anymore. I know, I"ve tried it.

So if you don't believe in God just because you don't agree with the Christian version, then you may want to rethink. I won't tell you what to believe because the same set of beliefs don't work for everyone.

[Raphaella]

Oh the Old Testament God was full of fire and brimstone. That is the kind of god that gets things done! Did you read the part where the prophet of the lord was walking down the road, leaving town and he was tormented by children?

They were teasing him calling him a bald man with no hair. The prophet then called upon the lord and the lord delivered onto him two she bares who attacked and killed the children. Nice! (I read this in a children's bible, I kid you not.)

But really it is not the 'Christian God' that is to blame here. It is indeed man. You see it was the Catholics who started the whole concept of the hell we know today. Also they were the ones demanding money for their services. I know I'm nitpicking here, but really the 'Christian God' is the same god of the Jews, and also the Muslims. The God of Abraham, the same for all of them. It was the initial fear of god that kept everyone in line, and the examples in the Old Testament were meant to reinforce that. We needed to know that there would be swift and horrible reproductions for our 'sins' and Old Testament God spit thunder and crapped lightning, but for a good cause.

Insofar as the 'spoiled brat syndrome' I say that God is God and he is indeed, infallible. Just like the Pope. All jesting aside here, we attached human qualities to a being that is so far removed from humanity, it should make your head spin just contemplating it. Truly God, or whichever entity you wish to attempt to fathom, is just as intangible as the elusive consciousness. God is the other, a being so foreign, so alien in his nature that no matter how hard our theologians or philosophers try, they simply cannot define. Our prophets and gurus have made so many feeble attempts over the years, and all of them will argue bitterly over who has the right miscomprehension. This sometimes leads to bloodshed, contradiction, and general mass hysteria, but I say it's worth it somehow.

One of the ultimate goals of the human existence is to prove that we are the ones that define our own reality. If this reality includes a God, then we had better define him as well, or our whole modality could be called into question and by a child no less. Humanity thrives on the labeling and categorizing of things even intangible things. Anthropomorphism has been around as early as the dawn of time, as seen in the cave paintings, and various stone idols of the period. That is just how we roll. Each of us can attach whichever characteristics we wish to a deity and none of us will be any more right than the caveman who started this whole debacle. Just food for circular logic.

[Raphaella]

I shall also have to add The Books fiction to my growing list of fascinating things to read. These just sound too good to be true!!!

[PorkChopExpress86]

The body and blood of Christ thing is just symbolism (he is the Earth, and grain and grapes come from the Earth) and the general theory today is that the Garden of Eden is just a metaphor.

Not according to Catholicism. The doctrine of transubstantiation means that the wafers and wine do indeed become the body and blood. Of course 3 years of catholic school not only turned me off of Catholicism, but Christianity in general... Also the Garden of Eden is taken to be a real place by many millions of people around the world. The Mormons believe its Jackson County, Missouri and many "young-earth" protestants believe that the garden existed exactly as it was described in genesis, but that the great flood changed the lay out of the land so it's no longer recognizable.

Literalist interpretations are what create so much division in the world. How does one even read the bible literally? It's so full of errors and contradictions.

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/index.htm

Awesome resource if you want to check out some of the discrepancies. 400 contradicting concepts to be exact.

But raphaella is right about an anthropomorphic god. if there was a mighty creator god there would be no way knowing him in any way so people take their personal experiences and assume that god is the same way. since he would be unknowable, why would a god who demanded worship not reveal himself? if the bible is his direct revelation then it couldn't be flawed because it would be from god who is the paradigm of perfection. Allowing man to corrupt it is silly because that would damn all of humanity since they wouldn't know the difference and would follow false doctrines. The same with jesus. If jesus is the living incarnation of the word, then he should have handed down his teachings in a permanent way that could be understood by all mankind. Instead, jesus wrote nothing and relied on the third hand testimonials that can't even agree on the color of jesus's cloak when he was crucified.

Matthew 27:28

And they stripped him, and put on him a scarlet robe.

Mark 15:17

And they clothed him with purple, and platted a crown of thorns, and put it about his head."

John 19:2

And the soldiers platted a crown of thorns, and put it on his head, and they put on him a purple robe.

Two out of three aint bad, I guess... but if something as simple as color can't be agreed on, why would you trust the document for the salvation of your eternal soul? And why wouldn't an omnipotent, omniscient god have the foresight to see what man would do with his teachings or the ability to offer an indelible and direct document free from errors? At best god would only be offering a real opportunity at salvation to the handful of people who interacted with the various prophets who supposedly spoke for god.

What strikes me is that Muslims actually teach the belief that god’s mind is beyond understanding. Allah is so far above humanity, that no one can know his will, so why is it they're able to say that he wants infidels dead and women stoned for showing their ankles?

[Guest Monsterking]

Ok this might sound strange but if god is indeed the only god i feel sorry for him since he has no Real Companions to socialize with at all and for that i pity him

[Shinju]

Not according to Catholicism.

I was always a bad Catholic. I do not believe that once I swallow the bread and wine it turns into a DNA replica of Christ's flesh and blood inside my tummy. I'm sorry, the pope can tell me that all he wants and my BS detector just doesn't buy it. But in a way, I believe my interpretation is literal because I believe that "he" is the grapes and the grain.

And yes, I do watch the discovery channel and know that they think the Garden of Eden was located in the Middle East or Mesopotamia or whatever (and they say that Atlantis was in Indonesia) and, well who knows if it really existed or not because I sure don't care too much, but I am just saying that I think Eve taking the the apple or fig fruit or whatever at the urging of satan in the guise of a snake has a deeper meaning than just "Eve" literally eating a piece of apple or fig or whatever. Idunno, maybe it was like in family guy where God didn't want them going near the tree of knowledge because he was hiding all his porn under there.

[Shinju]

Ok this might sound strange but if god is indeed the only god i feel sorry for him since he has no Real Companions to socialize with at all and for that i pity him

Or maybe he created us for his companions but abandoned us when he saw what a mistake he made. Kind of like when you create characters on The Sims and then get board and leave to go make yourself a sandwich while they pee themselves and starve to death.

[Guest Monsterking]

not to sound strange but since god created Adam based on his appearence but if so then whose appearence was Eve based on? any idea's?

[Shinju]

not to sound strange but since god created Adam based on his appearence but if so then whose appearence was Eve based on? any idea's?

Well, going off of this image

I'd say Gumby with boobs. Or a young Holly Hunter.

[PorkChopExpress86]

Or maybe he created us for his companions but abandoned us when he saw what a mistake he made. Kind of like when you create characters on The Sims and then get board and leave to go make yourself a sandwich while they pee themselves and starve to death.

That's called Deism. A creator "god" made the universe but doesn't interfere in any way. Incidently, that's what most of the US's "founding fathers" ascribed to, not christianity as many claim.

[Calanthee]

We were created By horny doppy long lived messed up aliens , flawed pathetic aliens.... if you check all, the different group of gods around the world, they were all similiar and flawed and all bases on the same Small group of assholes down through time... whether is East Indian god or greek god...Egyption... Norse etc! All of its a real bad soap opera... everybody sleeps with each other and their sister or kills each other in wars, just the Names changed over time .... Seed of Aliens and a great ape species were combined to make humans, and we were created as slaves to mine gold from the earth, because the gods were much to lazy to do it themselves. Gold was needed to save the atmosphere of their own home planet!

So if you wonder where you got all your bad habits from.... the godZ!

They made us in their image, decided we were beautiful and then screwed us totally.

Then they left us, when their long life spans, started to deminish and returned to their home planet, supposedly to come back some day, hope not, there goes the neighbor hood, personally I hope a great Icy comet took out their great big planet long ago and thus save us all the trouble of their return! I perfer the dinasaur to come back first or Godzella to really exist, than all those doppy horny assholes... we refer to as godz! They're just trouble or worse!

Then one of the flawed Gods decided he was going to corner the market on the name god... ergo the one god theory... thou shall have no other gods before me!

Yeah Bullshit there was so many fake so-called gods on earth, at one time or other, you couldn't help but trip on them!

There only one real perfect god/ the creator/ eternal the almighty and that is the Universe itself and his word is the big bang, from dust an nothingness to us and back to nothingness again over and over! Pulsing on and off over and over until you WANT SCREAM or come! Sound fun don't it!

Make up your own compasionate god, it's better than following a fake one that belongs to someone else! Cal

PS So if you want to get down to it "the Bible is the first Sci-fi novel ever written" Can you dig it, yeah I knew that you could!

[PorkChopExpress86]

We were created By horny doppy long lived messed up aliens , flawed pathetic aliens.... if you check all, the different group of gods around the world, they were all similiar and flawed and all bases on the same Small group of assholes down through time... whether is East Indian god or greek god...Egyption... Norse etc! All of its a real bad soap opera... everybody sleeps with each other and their sister or kills each other in wars, just the Names changed over time .... Seed of Aliens and a great ape species were combined to make humans, and we were created as slaves to mine gold from the earth, because the gods were much to lazy to do it themselves. Gold was needed to save the atmosphere of their own home planet!

So if you wonder where you got all your bad habits from.... the godZ!

They made us in their image, decided we were beautiful and then screwed us totally.

Then they left us, when their long life spans, started to deminish and returned to their home planet, supposedly to come back some day, hope not, there goes the neighbor hood, personally I hope a great Icy comet took out their great big planet long ago and thus save us all the trouble of their return! I perfer the dinasaur to come back first or Godzella to really exist, than all those doppy horny assholes... we refer to as godz! They're just trouble or worse!

Then one of the flawed Gods decided he was going to corner the market on the name god... ergo the one god theory... thou shall have no other gods before me!

Yeah Bullshit there was so many fake so-called gods on earth, at one time or other, you couldn't help but trip on them!

There only one real perfect god/ the creator/ eternal the almighty and that is the Universe itself and his word is the big bang, from dust an nothingness to us and back to nothingness again over and over! Pulsing on and off over and over until you WANT SCREAM or come! Sound fun don't it!

Make up your own compasionate god, it's better than following a fake one that belongs to someone else! Cal

PS So if you want to get down to it "the Bible is the first Sci-fi novel ever written" Can you dig it, yeah I knew that you could!

Today's episode of sesame street was brought to you by the letters T, H, and C.

[Raphaella]

I too have watched the Discovery channel, and it is through their spot on programming that I draw my fanciful conclusions! (Wags finger and earnestly presents a discovery channel diploma.)

Really it was a quince in the Garden of Eden, though I prefer to think of is as a golden apple. And while they may never find the exact location of Atlantis, I have it on good authority, that it is located in the jungles of South America.

Insofar as the Muslims are concerned, I find their insistence on brutal punishment for not following their doctrine more in accordance with Old Testament god then any other religion that worships the god of Abraham. While I may not agree with their doctrine, it really says something about the sincerity of their beliefs. (Extremist followers of Islam, not your regular run of the mill Muslims.)

I would hate to speak for god here, but perhaps this is all part of his elaborate plan. With free will and all it would be silly to expect any man, no matter how pious, to pen the exact word of god. If god were dictating to me I would be hard pressed, at the best of times, not to put something thoroughly absurd, yet plausible in the text.

And God spoke on to Adam, "Go fourth and gird thy loins with nettles!"

The prophet received the word of god and thus he spread the entrails of seven donkeys over his body to await the Sabbath.

I could go on, but I would then be late for work. However in regards to god being lonely, I really don't think that is the case. You see, perhaps he is god of heaven and earth, but what about the heavens above other, more distant planets. I am sure they too have a god, and perhaps these beings converse and drink tea together on a regular basis. I am an expert at conjecture and blind speculation, so I really believe this is indeed what happens. Perhaps too the beings are having a rather long bender and have forgotten about us for the moment, just like Shinju proposed.

Oh man and this last post by Calanthee!! I really wish I had more time here! That is just brilliant! Spot on, spot on and all that. Did you hear though that their planet is indeed going to come back around to bite us in the ass again?

[Shinju]

That's called Deism. A creator "god" made the universe but doesn't interfere in any way. Incidently, that's what most of the US's "founding fathers" ascribed to, not christianity as many claim.

Yes, but where do the sandwiches fit in? Oh, wait, I think I was watching a bit too much of that special edition Sesame Street.

[Shinju]

Then one of the flawed Gods decided he was going to corner the market on the name god... ergo the one god theory...

XD

[Shinju]

I am sure they too have a god, and perhaps these beings converse and drink tea together on a regular basis.

Tea party of the gods . . . I've just found my theme for next Halloween's theme party.

[Calanthee]

I get into a discussion with someone about The Books porn.

Well, it started with an assertion that by being cynical skeptics we lose our creativity.

I suggest that he compare Mel's Fanfic snuff flick: The Passion to The Gold Compass. Which was more creative, which was more derivative?

Then he wants to argue that you can't have The Books fanfic. Not shouldn't, that you can't.

I show him mine.

THEN he says that i'm not ever, ever going to be washed in the blood of the Lamb. Well, among other things he promises/threatens.

Ick.

We establish that God demanded a blood sacrifice to himself and sent himself to earth to be that blood sacrifice so the blood of the lamb is god blood. And that's apparently a GOOD thing?

Somehow, the idea that god uses his own blood being spilled to make things better, makes me point out that that makes God, technically, a cutter.

Any other self-image issues we should know about for this guy?

I mean, he's a user. Noah gets off the boat, sets 6 pairs of the Clean animals afire, God takes a hit on the smoke and gets all maudlin ("I should never have killed Mankind for being wicked. Mankind's always going to be wicked. He's made that way.")(There's always one guy at the party, right? Gets a few hits of the smoke, starts regretting a past relationship, cries about a girlfriend that he screwed over or something).

What's next?

"The Flesh eating godz from outer space"

Your saying the god/gods got off, or drunk on smoked animal flesh... it turned'em on. Well that's what lots and lots of I space ship food will do for you.... most likely they took pills or liquid for food, which was odorless and tastless....so when they smelled real BBQ it sent'em over the edge. I think the altar set before the Lord was a dinner table.

Didn't God tell someone to toast or smoke his young son on a fire altar to prove his loyalty, obedience, and trust in god... right about then I think I'd told'em he was fired for being a sick bastard... even though god didn't let the man actually go through with it. It was still smoking under the kid, before the fire went out... by the breath of god.

Cal

PS. I wish you young folk, would stop using initials and text speak, which this old one can't understand, so what the blue blazes does XD Mean? My cell it sends smoke signal... it doesn't do text!

[PorkChopExpress86]

PS. I wish you young folk, would stop using initials and text speak, which this old one can't understand, so what the blue blazes does XD Mean? My cell it sends smoke signal... it doesn't do text!

it's an emoticon, someone laughing very hard.

XD

[Guest Monsterking]

i dont know about you but personally i think gods up to something with all the good looking Female Angels Up Thier! oh and he has quite the Ego

Peace Out And May The Furs Be With You WOOOOOO!!!

[Calanthee]

i dont know about you but personally i think gods up to something with all the good looking Female Angels Up Thier! oh and he has quite the Ego

Peace Out And May The Furs Be With You WOOOOOO!!!

Dear Monsterking, Godzilla Sweety,

NOt all those pretty angels are females...from what I heard from a little winged birdy...angels can be just a little bite confused gender-wise...sometimes you have to look up their little white robes... too see whats actually there. Angels for the most part, must be pure of thought and deed or so its said! But I agree with you, Mr EGo the almighty with G, nails'em every chance he gets... when no ones looking...the horn Dog! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr! What's with the baby angels, cherubs, is you know who, a the celestial pedophile too? But then I suppose HE created Yaoi too!

The Infamous and EVil, Calanthee

[Psychostorm]

I get into a discussion with someone about The Books porn.

Well, it started with an assertion that by being cynical skeptics we lose our creativity.

I suggest that he compare Mel's Fanfic snuff flick: The Passion to The Gold Compass. Which was more creative, which was more derivative?

Then he wants to argue that you can't have The Books fanfic. Not shouldn't, that you can't.

I show him mine.

THEN he says that i'm not ever, ever going to be washed in the blood of the Lamb. Well, among other things he promises/threatens.

Ick.

We establish that God demanded a blood sacrifice to himself and sent himself to earth to be that blood sacrifice so the blood of the lamb is god blood. And that's apparently a GOOD thing?

Somehow, the idea that god uses his own blood being spilled to make things better, makes me point out that that makes God, technically, a cutter.

Any other self-image issues we should know about for this guy?

I mean, he's a user. Noah gets off the boat, sets 6 pairs of the Clean animals afire, God takes a hit on the smoke and gets all maudlin ("I should never have killed Mankind for being wicked. Mankind's always going to be wicked. He's made that way.")(There's always one guy at the party, right? Gets a few hits of the smoke, starts regretting a past relationship, cries about a girlfriend that he screwed over or something).

What's next?

There is no emperical evidence to support the existance of ANY god, let alone the psychotic, violent moster of a god that the Christian god is. The whole concept of God or gods stem from 2 things, ok maybe 3 in some people's cases.

1. To deny one's own mortality. A byproduct of the survical instinct. Humans make up stories to think they survive past death when there is no emperical proof of that. However, String Theory maybe on to something if higher demensions acutally exist but we'd need an atom smasher the size of the solar system to test that...

2. A convienient explination for existance. When science has no clear explenation for abiogenisis and the big bang, just make shit up, an all powerfull God made it happen. Occams Razor? Fuck that shit, God made himself, fuck that irreducably complexity bullshit, fuck logic.

And 3. To control the public. What better way to keep people in line than promise rewards after death if they do what you say and damn them to eternal hell if they don't. Pretty ingenious if you ask me.

Willful ignorance is a plague, it holds humanity back from searching for the truth, it holds us back from sheer logic. All who are against the greater good should be exterminated.

And the doublestandard is the worst. People expect you to respect their belife in an irrational "God" but if you believe in "The Silver Spoon from Demension X that is all powerful" you are treated as a lunatic. How pathetic, when each are equally viable and equally imaginary.