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That's perfectly fine with me - you're completely entitled to your opinion, but what I'm saying is that the correct place to air these opinions is in here in the forum, and not on the review pages, because as you admit yourself, you have not actually read one word of the story. For all you know I could be really lousy at synopses...

I have NOT posted another review to your story, I brought it here to discuss it (as requested).

And no I haven't read the story and believe I've been discussing the description quite openly. By reading your synopsis/description you make it sound like it is a story about a man doing, anal, fisting...with a 5year old girl. Is it or is it not accurate because other than a couple of codes/tags you just recently put up that is how it reads? This is what I was trying to get at in my last post.

I hope to hear from the author.

Luvinfanfic

I will be offline until tomorrow

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I would like to state for the record though, that while I support free speech, the tone of the two earlier reviews that I deleted were nothing short of offensive, whether intentionally or just in the heat of the moment. Since I didn't feel that what was said had any justification, and the language was inflammatory and unsettling, I exercised my right as the author to delete them. The repostings were less threatening, therefore they are still there - although if you feel, in light of new information, that you wish to retract anything, then I would certainly be happy for you to do so.

I do not feel inclined to retract anything. I felt it. I said it. And to retract would make one think I have changed my views on this.

I can not bring myself to read any of this because the description alone bothers me and if you're saying the description does not explain the exact content of your story then why write it as you did? Shock value? Hits? Reviews?

As I brought up earlier it looks as if the sexual acts listed in your description are done to the child. If that's not true does it bother you that people are opening your story because they believe they are or turning away because of it?

Luvinfanfic

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I was reluctant to bring into this what I do for a living and I hope that all saw it as insight as to where I personally was coming from and nothing else.

I do understand that there are a lot of things out there that could fall under the Darkfic category and so it could be very exhausting to compile a suitable list. I'm not a vanilla girl and believe in the whole of it I'm pretty open minded and normally let people be with their choices as long as they don't put them at my front door. With that said I will bring up once again the description (please know I'm only using it now for an example not to bash or attack, the dead horse has been beaten and...its still dead.). You talk about Brady and Jay and then you add in the disclaimer tags which instantly sounds as if all these things are done to her, maybe they are but from what you stated earlier it sounded as if this wasn't the case. You don't insinuate that there is anyone else in the fic (M/M or Slash) even though I now know there is from your reviews and what you've posted on this board. So if you plan to update the description you may want to add the tags that do belong.

I still can't be okay with what was written, that is my right as writing this story is yours.

Luvinfanfic

"I love the internet but it makes speaking ones mind impossible because everyone hears your voice differently"

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Quickly I'd like to add that all stories of this nature fall under the Darkfic category not just the one in question. There are categories for a reason and I believe the reason they are not used is because of the lack of traffic. That still doesn't change where stories belong.

As for the Darkfic category I believe if more stories were placed there as they should be there would be less of this back and forth going on.

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Hi

As the author of the story that 'Heartbroken' is referring to, I would just like to say how astonished I am that some people seem to be villifying my fic... there are certainly a lot more contentious works on the site, and as someone has helpfully pointed out - no one seems to be bothered about underage Harry Potter getting treated appallingly. My guess is that it's the 'real' aspect of my story which is causing the issues, but it is a fic.

I posted in the Originals/Erotica section because of the action between the two (adult) characters - and might have put it in 'Slash' but that didn't seem to fit with the little girl character being there. If anyone else can suggest a more appropriate genre then I have no objection to it being moved (but with 33 chapters already posted, I'm not keen to start shifting it myself).

Annoyingly enough, judging from the reviews (both positive and negative), a lot of people have assumed that they already know where the story is going, and seem to be commenting accordingly - and doing so with very little basis but suspicion and supposition. Which says a lot more about those reviewers than it does about the story or it's theme... I purposely made the rating as high as I could, put warnings in the synopsis, and posted where I was sure that the 'innocent' would not accidentally stumble on it, but still people are complaining...

As it happens, I am quite in accord with some of the points made by 'Heartbroken' about children not being sex objects, and that child abuse should not be portrayed in a positive light, but to assume that evil necessarily looks evil, is to miss the point. If we could see into people, then children and vulnerable adults would be safe, as would the rest of us, since everyone would be able to spot a 'bad 'un' a mile off!

If anyone thinks that my story is condoning abuse, then I'm sorry that they have chosen to interpret it that way - that certainly was not my intention in writing it. I have established the characters, laid out a feasible thread, and followed it -the conclusion (which is not yet written, and therefore I defy anyone to pass comment on it yet) will tie all of those points together, and present one possible outcome. I refuse to offer any suggestions as to what that will be, as I detest plot spoilers.

In passing, I might also point out that I object strongly to people connecting my writing to my real life - if it were true that we are what we write then by now I would most certainly be an attractive young/ish gay man, well loved, and probably quite rich... which would make a nice change!

I have stated again at the start of the most recent chapter that I welcome respectful constructive criticism, even if that happens not to coincide with my own opinions, but I'm not happy with being flamed over something that was never my intention in the first place, and I have directed any non-review comments toward this forum.

'Purr

If I could add just one last thing. You should indeed move the story to the Darkfic category because it is apparent it will remain. You said it yourself don't like don't read well the description alone makes my skin crawl (my opinion/feelings) and it was because of that alone I closed down my web browser no longer having a desire to read anything of a sexual nature.

This subject does strike a cord with me and reading just that little bit brought attention to things I come to AFF to escape from. I work for the state not only with children coming from such backgrounds but also with those who had a hand in causing the pain and trauma to them. Everyday I see registered offenders and often have to listen to their justifications. (this is where I'm coming from)

With that, yes I would like the story removed but as myself and others have been told over and over it is all freedom of expression. Please move this story to Darkfic because it is at the very least that.

Luvinfanfic

http://www2.adult-fanfiction.org/forum/inde...?showtopic=6273

As for people believing that all of us against such things are one in the same I can tell you that it is not true and also add that Spanky/Heartbroken and I are related (cousins if you must know) but against popular belief are not one in the same.