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The analogy of the bike was a interesting one.

I watch a lot of court shows. There's always one about a plantiff claiming the defendant stole their property.

Once the facts are laid out, the gist of the case is that the plantiff leaves his or her valuable property with the defendant, saying they'll be back to pick it up in two weeks (or two months).

At the end of that time period (oh noes!) no plantiff.

The defendant makes numerous attempts to contact plantiff. But sadly the plantiff doesn't answer.

After a period of time, lets say about six months of no return calls or email, the defendent grows tired and either sells, toss or takes over the property.

And then, don-don-donnnnn!, the plantiff returns for their property.

I erroneously thought, until I saw those episodes, that the defandant had a RIGHT to maintain or keep the plantiff property. Imagine to my surprise that the law considers such things as abandoned property.

I always thought that if it belonged to someone, and they claim they never relinquished their rights, sometimes the law considers their claim void because they made no effort to retrieve to make arrangement to contact the holder of their property.

Someone mentioned that there's always two sides to every story.

Getting rid of the other side, not allowing them to say anything in return, must make Jaxxy's side that much stronger?

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Sorry, new to this. My friends told me about what was going on and being the insanely curious person (the kind that gawks at a roadside accident) I decided to mosey over.

What I find amusing(?), curious is the Shadow (sorry can't remember the rest of your name) statement

my one failing (or one that I'll admit to ) is I try to see the other side of the coin.

"Yes, I saw DA's post. In it she doesn't say what they did. She just states she is leaving. Just like they say, we don't know their side of the story but when Jaxxy returned and saw, they ran. That right there should be a warning light.

Why on earth would you expect them to remain is completely beyond me. And not choosing sides, but it seems to me it's clear you have some sorta bias against them. And you seem to know a lot about what went down inside the mod group, unless you were a mod yourself?

But anyway, back to my point.

If the mods ran like you said, my impression would have probably been that they choose not to Jaxxy's return rather than make a huge stink.

And yet, there's a big, pile of stink.

That Solar person says the mods shoulda called Jaxxy. And she's correct. They could have called.

But on the other hand, what was preventing Jaxxy from calling her mods?

I'm playing the devil's advocate here.

By saying they could have called Jaxxy, it implies a recipical arrangement. Which means, why couldn't Jaxxy call? I mean, if I was the owner of a site and dropped out of sight for several months, I would have damn well called to at least check in. I wouldn't wait until a crisis blew up in my face.

Like this.

My take is, if you have time to check on Nexcess, then you have time to send or answer an email. It doesn't take much, just a quick 'Yo, I'm here'.

My grandmother used to always say, 'Chile, ju betta remember, whoever shouts d'loudest u'sle got da mos' t'hide. Dey git dey frens and dey go t'whoopin' n hollarin'. Dat way, nobody hears t'udder fellow."

My take is, there's a lot of whoopin' n hollarin'' goin' on.

Maybe it's time for it to stop.

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Alrighty, I gotta put my fifty cents in

*steals the soapbox from Jaxxy and clears her throat*

I understand how everyone is confused and just like Jaxxy I am tired of seeing the "we are only hearing this side or that side" routine.

Now while I love AFF as much as the next person, you all have to see it this way.

Jaxxy is trying to explain the situation without being rude or mean to people. By rights, she doesn't have to answer no questions but she chooses too.

It wasn't just the fact of the site being taken illegally, it was also the fact that they sat around and did nothing, making and allowing everyone else to do the work for them. Being a mod, isn't just..you do this, or you do that..it is being part of the work.

I sat as I went through the posts and I wondered just how many helpers on this forum was on the scouts group. That's who was suppossed to be doing the site work. Not any member from the site.

I was very upset whenever all the formatting work was done, the four mods, kicked or I should say banned the formatter from the site.

I don't want to speak bad against the four mods, but I find it strange that the day that Jaxxy gets the site back, they jump ship.

Yes, I saw DA's post. In it she doesn't say what they did. She just states she is leaving. Just like they say, we don't know their side of the story but when Jaxxy returned and saw, they ran. That right there should be a warning light.

I am sure that none of the members of AFF appreicate the fact they destroyed the yahoo groups. I just don't know.

What I do know is Jaxxy is frazzled over this whole incident and trying to get reorganized. So let's give it a break...

It's over, they are gone. Jaxxy is trying so let's just push this behind us and go on. I am sure the site will be back to normal within a few days or weeks. It will be back..

In the words of Jaxxy...Can't we all just get along?

*jumps back down off her soap box*

What I find as strange is how when Jaxxy took the site back over, none of the four mods, admitted that they had done wrong.

Yes, I saw DA's post. In it she doesn't say what they did. She just states she is leaving. Just like they say, we don't know their side of the story but when Jaxxy returned and saw, they ran. That right there should be a warning light.