[Seeking collaborator for a Buffy - The Vampire Slayer story]

Well, I’m making progress, just slowly.

And a happy Christmas to you too. Somehow I can’t believe it’s that time already.

[Seeking collaborator for a Buffy - The Vampire Slayer story]

On 22.12.2016 at 0:14 PM, salamandaslash said:

Hey there - you get any responses to this. I'd love to see you write this. I can't spare the time to help you myself but if be really interested to see what comes out. 

Well, up to now, there have been no takers. It's a bit disappointing, to be honest. It was worth a try. I remain hopeful that my old pal NoRefund will jump on board, but the jury is still out on that. Or perhaps someone else gets in touch.

So far I've been adding bits and pieces to the outline, and I think it's getting pretty solid. It might take me a while (I have some other projects going too, and I'm not the fastest writer), but, sometime in the future, the story will see the light of the day.

[Seeking collaborator for a Buffy - The Vampire Slayer story]

Hello, I’m looking for a co-writer to do a “Buffy - The Vampire Slayer” story with me.

Recently, I read salamandaslash’s beautiful story “Imago: The seduction of Arlene” in which she briefly mentions a relationship between Buffy Summers and Dayna Penshaw (Janice’s mother). It was this that sparked my interest. After some more thinking, I hit upon the idea of “(Harsh)Dom!DaynaPenshaw/(reluctant)Sub!Buffy”. Once salamandaslash gave her permission, I began planning in earnest.

The story will (loosely) follow canon, so you should be familiar with the series and its characters. There will be magic and slayer powers, but that's pretty much it for the supernatural stuff. 

Fair warning: the story will feature acts in which consent is unclear (dubious consent). Other possible story tags are: 3Plus, Abuse, Anal, Angst, BDSM, B-Mod, Bond, CR, Ds, Dom, DP, Exhib, FF, Fet, Fingering, Humil, Inc, Minor2, Other, Rim, SandM, Scat, Slave, Solo, Spank, Tort, Toys, WIP, WS. I also write pretty exclusively lesbian smut.

I have the entire story roughly mapped out, and I also did start on some scenes. But the longer I go on, I fear the story is getting too big to handle, especially for me alone. So I’m looking for someone to work with, someone who isn’t afraid to make suggestions and who can help me get this story out.

For my writing style have a look at my profile. (Giddy Up Buffy)

If this thing interests you, please send me a message through the forum. 

Thanks!

[Imago: The Seduction of Arlene - Author's notes and feedback]

2 hours ago, salamandaslash said:

I love the idea of (Harsh)Dom!DaynaPenshaw/(reluctant)Sub!Buffyou.

I had always seen it as being more a case of Buffy being a willing sub who was looking for an older domme but your way is hotter!

If you think there is a story there - please feel free to write it!

Hello salamandaslash. Thanks for your lovely encouragement.

I’ll see what I can do. At the moment I’m trying to get back into writing. Real life and other stuff has kept me busy for the last two years, so I’m a bit rusty, and everything is rather slow.

Currently, I’m working on the next chapter to ‘Giddy Up Buffy’ but the Dayna/Buffy pairing has certainly whet my appetite, so much that I’m trying out some scenarios for that potential story. I have some tentative ideas that might work, and I’ll see whether I can rouse my good partner in crime NoRefund from his slumber. But be assured, the idea is tempting, very much so.

2 hours ago, salamandaslash said:

Lovely to hear from someone who remembers my earlier efforts! I might try to recover them all and past them here if I find the time.

Would love to see your older work up here. "Spanking the Sisters" is one of my all time favorites.

 

saladie

[Heel Puppy]

Ok, how about if I set it after they've finished college. Willow is working as a computer software designer and Buffy is a copy editor/proof reader for some publisher (like in Suburban Girl, which sucked by the way).

They don't legally change her name, she is just known as Puppy to her owners and her playfriends. But they get her to quit her career and she has to work at the Doublemeat Palace. It would be so demoralising and humiliating for her to work at a place she used to frequent and laughed at the drop outs. What if the manager (Amy maybe?) found out about her servitude and, with Willow and Faith's permission, acted out a few of her own fantasies with Buffy.

Very good so far! I like your idea with the Doublemeat Palace (with Amy as the owner) but I'd suggest changing it to a fetish/ sex shop. By forcing Buffy to work there I think you would have more possibilities. Also I am still partial to the idea of Buffy having to change her name to Puppy (or make it Puppy Buffy or something in this direction).

When Buffy is at home and acting the role of Puppy I'll write it from her POV. When she is out in the real world I'll write it from the Narrators POV. It should help recognising that she is still Buffy to the rest of the world.

By showing her like this (like someone, can't remember who, suggested) it would be more humiliating having to act this way. It would give a whole new avenue for exploration if she was a part time slave, but still devoted to her owners. They could text her with embarassing things to do while out on her own, testing her resolve and commitment to them.

I think that you need to blur the line here. As time goes by Buffy should be outed to the public as Puppy too.

You should also reconsider the pace of Buffys, and later Willows, enslavement. The current story seems a bit too fast paced. I'd also like Buffy (and Willow) to be more reluctant to her (their) enslavement! I heartily agree that the relationship is not non-con but I think it would be okay if you show them to be more manipulated and coerced into their roles!

As for the narrative I think as general the narrators POV will suffice. But select scenes you should do in 1st POV, i.e. Dawn meeting Buffy as Puppy for the first time (this scene would probably lend itself to both POVs).

But also, I WILL be turning Willow sub. I gotta re-write, re-think and re-approach the whole damn thing now.

Perhaps changing the premise of the story would be best. It is still Willow's birthday but Buffy is clueless what to give Willow. Enter Faith as a good friend of the couple. Have Faith suggest to Buffy that it would be Willows wish to have her as a slave for a birthday gift. Faith will be present under the pretense of easing Willow into the role of Mistress. Willow is unsure but is convinced by Faith to partake in this gift. Perhaps have Faith say to Willow in private that it was Buffy's idea. Let Faith have her own agenda (playing both Buffy and Willow). Buffy likes her new role which she thinks is only short term but is then tricked/ coerced into agreeing to prolong her role as a slave to Willow and Faith. Have them (mainly Faith) slowly increase Buffy's enslavement.

This wouldn't be too different as to the already existing storyline as Willow and Faith already have their own agenda in mind, i. e. the paysite and making Buffy their committed slave. They were even ready to be much more forceful with Buffy if she would have protested more strongly (chapter 2).

But in the end it would be your decision! I too wish you the best of luck.

[Heel Puppy]

I am glad my ideas helped you a little bit.

Hmmm, me likes it. After all, in chapter...er, five (I think) Willow got turned on by Faith when she acted out a little cop fantasy. That could be the turning point for Willow. I shall think upon it my friend and see what my brain tells me.

It would leave Willow and Buffy still lovers, just submissive pets as well. Still have their wedding.

Maybe when they take Puppy to the park (chapter two?), instead of meeting Vi and Rhona (two characters I threw in there just for the hell of it) they could meey Kennedy instead?

I'd say you're on the right track. The only problem I see is that your Willow character (till chapter five) comes across as a firm Mistress. Therefore you need to tweak the tone of the story a little bit. I suggest to let Willow be a little bit unsure in her dealings with Buffy (Puppy?).

But who should be 'Precious'? Tara maybe, and she gets trained and given to Xander and Anya?

You're right! We're short one little pet now. Once again Tara could work really well.

Should I re-write it from the narrators POV seeing as many different characters could be doing shit now?

I can't really tell. So far I've enjoyed Buffy's POV and you seem to do 1st POV really well. Perhaps you could do different POVs?

Once Joyce gets her xmas card of Buffy anked and pet-like I guess she'll want to know what's going on.

If you manage to involve Joyce and Dawn it would be really great!

Long weekend coming up, I think I may be spending it getting a nice PC tan

So will I . If you need further help please let me now. I have some free time coming up too. Perhaps I'll find it in me and try to tweak the first chapters to see what could work and what not.

[Heel Puppy]

The problem is I don't want to do a fic that revolves around magic and slaying and things like that. I wanted to keep it in the real world.

Ok, if I changed Kennedy to Tara (change Tara to Kennedy for the vets chapter, and for the last chapter) would Kennedy become Faith's lover? But what about the Willow/Faith wedding? I NEED my romance, baby

I'm even more confused than I was at the start

Help?!

I see no real need to do such an extensive rewrite of this story. If it ain't broke don't fix it!!

That being said there is still my compromise idea where Buffy and Willow both become subs. This would work in the real world too. Have Kennedy be Faiths friend and have them fall in love (bond) over enslaving Buffy & Willow. I think that this would keep the storyline which is already there as intact as one can keep it. But there need to be changes to Willows personality, i.e. Faith would need to be the driving force behind Buffy's enslavement with Willow more being along for the ride. Later on (perhaps at the pet shop or on the university campus) have them meet Kennedy, a fellow domme. Kennedy is intrigued with Buffy's predicament and Faith is intrigued by Kennedy's brash personality. In short time Faith & Kennedy become very close friends when Kennedy introduces the idea to have two slave girls. Faith is very much for it and convinces Willow to at least try it....

[Heel Puppy]

As I understand it, the suggestion is that Willow and Buffy should swap places from the beginning of the story.

April Fools Day?

I certainly hope that this won't happen because on Willow as a sub we have to agree to disagree. No offense but I see Buffy more as a sub than Willow. Buffy was always more needy and insecure about relationships than Willow, i.e. Buffy chasing after Riley. She is also much more willing to 'submit' to her friends needs.

Possibilities: 1. Get rid of some of the AU elements, and set the story in a specific season instead. 2. Have the narrator call her Willow, although her owners still call her Puppy. 3. Have her interact normally with Xander most of the time (she does not call him "Master"), EXCEPT during sex scenes. 4. Expand Xander's role, having Willow go back and forth between normal friendship and subservience in the space of a single scene. Example: she's helping him with his homework as usual at the Bronze, when he needs to piss and does so in her mouth (or, more mundanely, gets horny and has her blow him under the table). Then they revert to their previous conversation. 5. Bring in former lovers and friends, emphasizing that they're "making" her do things she never would have done before. (No actual noncon, of course - it's all roleplay). 6. Have her owners make her do things relevant to her previous skills as a hacker and a witch. Examples: programming her porn website, hacking into Twitter to reverse her lifetime ban, wearing a pointy hat (and nothing else) around the house, levitating a pencil up her bum, building a mechanical frog (she's scared of frogs) to fuck her, etc. 7. Bring in former enemies such as Cordelia and Anya to play with her (within limits set by her loving owners, of course).

In principle (having the characters closer to canon) I agree with you.

Why not compromise? Start out with Willow and Faith enslaving Buffy (Puppy) and then have Kennedy or Tara come in and enslave Willow (Precious) too. This wouldn't disturb the current plot too much and as such would probably be easier to write. As for deciding on a specific season I'd say season 4, 6 or AU after Chosen. Perhaps season 6 would work the best as both Buffy and Willow are very vulnerable at this time.

[Heel Puppy]

Hello NoRefund,

Nice to see you pick up your story again.

Ok, Sennheiser wrote that he would prefer to see Willow in the role of Buffy. I had planned on doing this two or three chapters ago but I couldn't be bothered to re-write it, but I have often thought of this as it does make sense really, because:-

a) Willow is much more of a sub character,

In chapter three it would Cordelia a reason for wanting revenge, still mad at the humiliation she suffered after the Willow and Xander cheating incident,

c) Now Kennedy has been added it would work out that the two of them hit it off,

d) Willow and Faith are planning to meet Willow's Mom. If was changed then they would go see Buffy's mom, who is a character we are already well familiar with,

I am not really sure about Willow as a sub this late in the story. Even you going so far as to rewrite the later chapters I can't see it working. As a private scene between Faith and Willow it would be okay but not Willow taking Buffys place in public and/ or performing before Buffy and Kennedy.

Also: Who would Kennedy hit it off with? Faith? Buffy? Willow? / Willow and Faith should meet Willow's Mom (finally) but I am unsure about Joyce. Could you please clarify those two points? (I'd love to see a meeting between Joyce and Buffy - why don't you let Joyce puppy-sit Buffy and Kennedy while Willow and Faith are meeting Willow's Mom?) 

e) I was trying to figure out how to add Dawn, it would remove any notion of incest,

How would you define 'incest'? If you're talking about actual sex between Buffy and Dawn I'd think there are still plenty other options.

- Have Dawn take Buffy out for walkies (perhaps with remote controlled vibrators so Dawn can tease and humiliate her sister in public)

- Willow & Faith go visit Dawn at her university (L.A.?) with Buffy in tow. Dawn can introduce 'Puppy' to her friends

- I don't know if this would be to severe but I'd really like to see Buffy being a toilet slave to Dawn (would she actually refuse this task and had to be coerced to it?)

What I'd like you to consider is to make Puppy more Buffy like. Perhaps somehow shocking her out of the role. This could be accomplished by Buffy being ordered to serve Joyce and/ or Dawn. IMCTWAYs review was spot on as to it being hard to see some resemblance of Buffy in the Puppy character.

I do enjoy the story so please keep writing!

So long,

saladied

PS: Like your challenge idea. Will see if I can come up with an idea too.