User reported objectionable story

[Guest Appalled]

There is no way to respond to reviews at this point in time.

I will do this ONE MORE TIME. This is a FAQ request forum, not a tech support forum. Any further such postings into the FAQ request forum will be deleted. Period.

I cannot find an email address -

the below fic is appalling and you need to address the posting of such frightening fics - I couldn't see the report button otherwise I would have used it! I have left a review for the writer - but please can you have a look and see what can be done?

http://original.adult-fanfiction.org/story.php?no=600097483

[shinigamiinochi]

I'm not a moderator, but I have read much worse stories than this. This is an adult website and while kiddy porn is disgusting, people here can write whatever they want. Unless this author is a troll or is underaged, there isn't much anyone can do and I shudder to think of a fanfiction site that kicks people out just for content matter. Anyone can find anything disgusting, it's the author's right to write whatever they want, even if it is questionable to the rest of us.

[Guest Guest_RadioActiveOrange_*]

Wow...That is horrifying... They really shouldn't allow this type of stuff on here. I mean, this and beastiality and Incest...why can't we keep it to "clean sex"? I mean, 3somes and things like that are fine, bisexuality is fine, gay sex is fine... I just don't understand what is so thrilling about making an adult and someone who is WAY too under 18 have sex. I mean, someone the age of 17 and 20 is pushing it. But like the person before, this is a fan fiction site and as long as the writer is 18 and above nothing can be done unless the admins deem it so. Personally, I would like to see stories like this taken off . They're disturbing and horrifying and because there are kids in this world being tortured in this exact way and then the cycle continues.

[DemonGoddess]

I don't like this sort of thing either, personally. However, not my call to delete or not delete. ugh.

[Guest luvfanfic]

I cannot find an email address -

the below fic is appalling and you need to address the posting of such frightening fics - I couldn't see the report button otherwise I would have used it! I have left a review for the writer - but please can you have a look and see what can be done?

http://original.adult-fanfiction.org/story.php?no=600097483

I agree that stories of this nature should be taken down. They may not think they are doing something wrong but they if nothing else are feeding into the fantasies of sick people.

[Guest Spanky]

I cannot find an email address -

the below fic is appalling and you need to address the posting of such frightening fics - I couldn't see the report button otherwise I would have used it! I have left a review for the writer - but please can you have a look and see what can be done?

http://original.adult-fanfiction.org/story.php?no=600097483

This story should be removed due to the fact that it's disgusting and possibly feeding fuel to sick people. Children should NEVER be portrayed as sex objects.....that's how it all starts.

"By using AdultFanFiction.net, I am demonstrating my beliefs that the material it exhibits is not obscene, fundamentally offensive, or in violation of any other person's rights."

Why put this on the sight if they don't mean it?!?!

[Acal]

Finally! somebody brought up this disgusting filth, I think this utter gives AFF a bad name i'm all for a no discrimation policy but how the laws on pedophila are written just gives a way for these sick perverted monsters to get it out. Now if its in original fiction why is it ok for it to remain while for example the exact same thing gets removed from the fanfiction sections?

To me allowing even references of pedophilla on this archive just encourages these sick monsters that what they are doing is justifiable and allowable I have no idea how any well adjusted person could write or even begin to even think about writing this filth. This is only one small step above actually doing it and is only just barely inside the law. It is immoral, sick and depraved while it might be legal that does not mean that it is in anyway right and should be allowed near here what would a causal viewer think if they come across one of these highly repulsive stories?

[DemonGoddess]

okay, first of all, when a fanfiction has been deleted with similar objections, there have been other reasons that make that deletion happen. Not the age of the character, but the overall content.

For example, the last few that I personally know about, the author was actually a troll. You've all seen troll fics, I'm sure.

Below is an example of what I'm talking about, and what was the kind of thing deleted from the fanfiction sections.

[Guest Spanky]

okay, first of all, when a fanfiction has been deleted with similar objections, there have been other reasons that make that deletion happen. Not the age of the character, but the overall content.

For example, the last few that I personally know about, the author was actually a troll. You've all seen troll fics, I'm sure.

Below is an example of what I'm talking about, and what was the kind of thing deleted from the fanfiction sections.

I think it's worse if it's not a troll. Has this story been checked out? How can you say it doesn't violate your TOS? Do you have any idea how many pedophiles can be reading this? It's about a 5 year old!!! I'm tired of the argument "freedom of speech" Go ahead and walk up to a 5 year old and say some of the things in this story and then watch the cop drag you to jail.

This story glorifies sex with a child and if ANYONE reads it and gets an idea to molest a child because this story "changed their view" or "made them "look at things in a different light" makes AFF partially responsible. And this sight has just helped contribute to sexual abuse and I know that's not what this site is about. I work with children everyday and the thought of one of their parents reading that makes me sick..............

[DemonGoddess]

As I said before, I PERSONALLY don't like the story nor the concept. What I like or dislike has no bearing on what I am or am not allowed to delete. Yes, if it were solely up to me, I'd make it go away. But it's not, so I can't.

Here's the other thing, I find I cannot in any way, shape, or form be objective about this story, nor the story content. As a mod, when that happens, the mod has to step away.

I'd just like to point out that when I first posted on this topic in June? At that point, I had nothing at ALL to do with archive moderation. Just the forum, and cleaning up the corrupted data in the archive.

[Guest Jaxxy]

Forgive my intrusion, but it seems I was directly addressed. So here I am. (Besides, policy is my gig; poor DG has her other eleventy-seven things to look after.)

I think it's worse if it's not a troll.

The sole and entire aim of a Troll is to harm people. Logically, a Troll, being naturally meaner-spirited than your introspective writer type, is more likely to want to hurt children. In contrast, this person is writing fiction, from his/her own home, on a website reserved for thinking, creative adults -- where s/he was welcomed, and repays with respect and by not breaking our TOS.

One thing we seem to agree on is that people who harm people have to go. On this note, I realize that this is a highly-charged issue -- on both sides -- and respect it. I must, being the most passionate half-sane person I am aware of, myself. I find the

tone

-- not the content, stripped of its hysteria -- of many things in this thread most offensive. Please be mindful to address all others -- me, too -- around the site with respect, even if you disagree with their schools of thought. Doing otherwise

is

breaking TOS, the consequences of which, none of us are exempt from.

Has this story been checked out?

Yes, of course; this has been quite the buzz around AFF lately. Making me tired...

... no wise-assery intended. Truth. Guys... if it's

fiction

, it is acceptable.

How can you say it doesn't violate your TOS?

Strange that anyone could ask this, because the answer is, "Easily, it's right

there

... I kinda-sorta wrote it."

Stories involving Real Persons under the age of 18 have been deleted on sight since Moses was in diapers.

This is what we do with pedophiles that infringe upon the real world.

True, years back, a few Moderators got a little "excited", and started deleting "offensive" materials (sometimes at the urgings of friends, sometimes because they didn't approve of certain materials themselves), but that was quickly stopped. It was stopped because such things as censorship easily snowball out of control, and also (deja vu all over again), the Membership balked.

I was on the side of the Membership on that particular head, and the majority of us remain there: "Don't like, don't read, different-strokes-for-different-folks, fiction =/= action, use another site if you melt down at what offends you." (How odd to see people balk either way -- a glowing example of, "You cannot please everyone all of the time." It is imperfect, but quite livable.)

Since these rules and understandings have been in effect for a very long time, one might beware of accusing others of breaking the TOS, when one is doing so themselves; if you are not tolerant of, and/or able to avoid, material that may offend you, as you were warned in the TOS and on the AFF's entry page,

you

are breaking TOS -- not the author we speak of.

It is illogical to insist that others may not write about that which bothers you, and saunter off to write about things that squick and worry others. Sadly, the intensity of our emotion is of no import, here; your worry that fiction makes people (above the age of five, that is, or the stars of

Jackass

) go out and "try stuff" doesn't make it so.

Do you have any idea how many pedophiles can be reading this? It's about a 5 year old!!! I'm tired of the argument "freedom of speech" Go ahead and walk up to a 5 year old and say some of the things in this story and then watch the cop drag you to jail.

Now you're getting it! If a person were to walk up to a small child and speak that way, that would very much be child abuse. And feel free to be "tired of 'freedom of speech'", if you've got the energy; AFF deals with freedom of speech/expression in

fiction

, not in what one is permitted to say to, or in which

real-world

situations to involve, a baby.

Again, in contrast, this site spends much time ensuring that the material within the site is accessible only to adults (if we could get some more support, we'd be even better at that --

great

software out there). So, who's donated?

This story glorifies sex with a child and if ANYONE reads it and gets an idea to molest a child because this story "changed their view" or "made them "look at things in a different light" makes AFF partially responsible. And this sight has just helped contribute to sexual abuse and I know that's not what this site is about. I work with children everyday and the thought of one of their parents reading that makes me sick..............

In that case, the author would be responsible. Additionally, a person who molests a child has had that idea on his or her own, long before he or she read a Story about it. Example: I have yet to impale someone with a katana (I have enough hate for one or two people on earth to be able to use this as a serious example), though in some of my favorite Naruto fanfic, it is presented in a triumphant, vindicating, and powerful way. Nine times out of ten, it even saves the day. But I have not even struck another person in my entire life, and wouldn't, no matter what I did or did not read.

I am a writer of fight-scenes, not a real-world participant in them. Our star author du jour is a writer of the darker places of the human mind, not a real-world participant in child abuse. We are free to our thoughts, thank goodness -- better that we start appreciating, expressing, and defending that right, instead of in-fighting, before it's

all

gone.

I'm sorry if I appear to argue; I don't do that. I know just where we both stand, and must accept it, or be a hypocrite. It is only the sort of way-out-there ideas I've seen here and there that have rather forced me to reply. Thank you for that opportunity.

Now, I'm really and very truly sorry, but AFF is having a hell of a time paying its bills, and I really must get back to focussing on finding us Advertisers if there is even to be an AdultFanFiction.net for you to disapprove of. Not to mention, the size of my ankles tonight is truly astonishing.

If I could ask you to take only a few things with you, they would be this: When you think of me, recall that I was just a Trigun fan when I joined AFF. It was my being a part of the AFF Membership itself, non-Staff, that educated me into my present ways of thinking; I remain Member-minded, and so, represent the majority. And, be absolutely sure to read the TOS

carefully

, please. As I say there, I really

do

want you to follow your bliss. We

are

happy you're one of us, no matter where you choose to express yourself.

[shinigamiinochi]

Like everyone here, I think these stories are the lowest form of literacy, but if we delete them on the grounds that they are immoral, what's to stop someone from doing the same thing to stories about homosexuality? Just reading a story doesn't make people do things, that's taking responsibility out of that person's hands and it is highly irresponsible for anyone to say that. Pedophiles will harm a child regardless of these stories. Free speech isn't just about what we like to read, it is our right as human beings to express ourselves, even if 'ourselves' is something disgusting, fanfiction is subjective and even something like 'clean sex' can be offensive to someone. We can't say that one thing is wrong while something else is right when they are similar media because that opens the flood gates to a ton of bad shit. Besides, clean sex is boring.

[Guest Guest_Spanky_*]

Forgive my intrusion, but it seems I was directly addressed. So here I am. (Besides, policy is my gig; poor DG has her other eleventy-seven things to look after.)

The sole and entire aim of a Troll is to harm people. Logically, a Troll, being naturally meaner-spirited than your introspective writer type, is more likely to want to hurt children. In contrast, this person is writing fiction, from his/her own home, on a website reserved for thinking, creative adults -- where s/he was welcomed, and repays with respect and by not breaking our TOS.

One thing we seem to agree on is that people who harm people have to go. On this note, I realize that this is a highly-charged issue -- on both sides -- and respect it. I must, being the most passionate half-sane person I am aware of, myself. I find the

tone

-- not the content, stripped of its hysteria -- of many things in this thread most offensive. Please be mindful to address all others -- me, too -- around the site with respect, even if you disagree with their schools of thought. Doing otherwise

is

breaking TOS, the consequences of which, none of us are exempt from.

Yes, of course; this has been quite the buzz around AFF lately. Making me tired...

... no wise-assery intended. Truth. Guys... if it's

fiction

, it is acceptable.

Strange that anyone could ask this, because the answer is, "Easily, it's right

there

... I kinda-sorta wrote it."

Stories involving Real Persons under the age of 18 have been deleted on sight since Moses was in diapers.

This is what we do with pedophiles that infringe upon the real world.

True, years back, a few Moderators got a little "excited", and started deleting "offensive" materials (sometimes at the urgings of friends, sometimes because they didn't approve of certain materials themselves), but that was quickly stopped. It was stopped because such things as censorship easily snowball out of control, and also (deja vu all over again), the Membership balked.

I was on the side of the Membership on that particular head, and the majority of us remain there: "Don't like, don't read, different-strokes-for-different-folks, fiction =/= action, use another site if you melt down at what offends you." (How odd to see people balk either way -- a glowing example of, "You cannot please everyone all of the time." It is imperfect, but quite livable.)

Since these rules and understandings have been in effect for a very long time, one might beware of accusing others of breaking the TOS, when one is doing so themselves; if you are not tolerant of, and/or able to avoid, material that may offend you, as you were warned in the TOS and on the AFF's entry page,

you

are breaking TOS -- not the author we speak of.

It is illogical to insist that others may not write about that which bothers you, and saunter off to write about things that squick and worry others. Sadly, the intensity of our emotion is of no import, here; your worry that fiction makes people (above the age of five, that is, or the stars of

Jackass

) go out and "try stuff" doesn't make it so.

Now you're getting it! If a person were to walk up to a small child and speak that way, that would very much be child abuse. And feel free to be "tired of 'freedom of speech'", if you've got the energy; AFF deals with freedom of speech/expression in

fiction

, not in what one is permitted to say to, or in which

real-world

situations to involve, a baby.

Again, in contrast, this site spends much time ensuring that the material within the site is accessible only to adults (if we could get some more support, we'd be even better at that --

great

software out there). So, who's donated?

In that case, the author would be responsible. Additionally, a person who molests a child has had that idea on his or her own, long before he or she read a Story about it. Example: I have yet to impale someone with a katana (I have enough hate for one or two people on earth to be able to use this as a serious example), though in some of my favorite Naruto fanfic, it is presented in a triumphant, vindicating, and powerful way. Nine times out of ten, it even saves the day. But I have not even struck another person in my entire life, and wouldn't, no matter what I did or did not read.

I am a writer of fight-scenes, not a real-world participant in them. Our star author du jour is a writer of the darker places of the human mind, not a real-world participant in child abuse. We are free to our thoughts, thank goodness -- better that we start appreciating, expressing, and defending that right, instead of in-fighting, before it's

all

gone.

I'm sorry if I appear to argue; I don't do that. I know just where we both stand, and must accept it, or be a hypocrite. It is only the sort of way-out-there ideas I've seen here and there that have rather forced me to reply. Thank you for that opportunity.

Now, I'm really and very truly sorry, but AFF is having a hell of a time paying its bills, and I really must get back to focussing on finding us Advertisers if there is even to be an AdultFanFiction.net for you to disapprove of. Not to mention, the size of my ankles tonight is truly astonishing.

If I could ask you to take only a few things with you, they would be this: When you think of me, recall that I was just a Trigun fan when I joined AFF. It was my being a part of the AFF Membership itself, non-Staff, that educated me into my present ways of thinking; I remain Member-minded, and so, represent the majority. And, be absolutely sure to read the TOS

carefully

, please. As I say there, I really

do

want you to follow your bliss. We

are

happy you're one of us, no matter where you choose to express yourself.

And it is with this post that I depart. I tried to post in the forum that you invited me to only to be denied. I welcome different opinons and do not expect mine to be taken as the only right one. I also stand firm on my beliefs as do all of you. However it seems as though because my opinons differ greatly from yours and that I spoke up about them, I shall be branded "hysterical" and "having an offensive tone" not passionate and opinionated. Interesting. I wonder if I chose to write a story about how I felt about this topic, if you would then applaud me for my artistic intent.

I agree words are a huge expression and that we all have the right to use them just as I have used them to bring attention to something that I PERSONALLY find very offensive. I had no qualms with you at all until you posted my private e-mail and then took pot shots at me. I hope you have since recieved my second and final e-mail. I am done with this sight and planned to go after speaking my mind but when my e-mail gets taken and replied to on a message board then I feel the need to defend myself, just as your authors do. It is also very unfortunate that I am not even able to post on that site/board because I do not have admin approval, yet you invite me there.

I too wish you nothing but good things and hope that in the future you would keep your private communications with your authors, just that, private. I also ask that you take a few things with you. 1. Being passionate does not make a person offensive, it makes them human I have read some very nasty comments in my years here but unfortunately when someone puts a story out to be read, they run the risk of negative comments. Look at reviews for published books...critics can be downright ruthless so what makes this any different? 2. Perhaps a warning about the contents not just being explicit but possibly about children. I know that's not likely because the argument is always, but then what do we find offensive and where is the line? Please consider making the line when a story is sexual with children under 14. 3. Know that I know bliss and it is in the form of a 7 and 11 year old and my speaking up just solidifies the respect and love I have for them as human beings. Children are not always given a voice and by speaking up, I feel as I've given them one, regardless of "artistic or creative" intent. I feel the way I feel PERIOD. I do not ask you to change your opinons I just ask you to question how far you are willing to go. Where do you draw your line and do you stand by it? I know you are quite unsure where you lie on this subject because I have read your posts so I ask that you do what is neccessary to keep the integrity of this sight, even if that means going against what your authors expect.

Good luck and thank you for the hours of enjoyment I had reading some of this sights stories.

J

[Guest Jaxxy]

And it is with this post that I depart. I tried to post in the forum that you invited me to only to be denied.

I wouldn't dream of denying or harming a soul -- it's actually a personal problem of mine to let people take me too far. I was making some points points I'd hoped you would debate with us, in search of a solution to unhappiness. However, if I am to defend you, I will defend myself as well. It's the only way to accurately represent the situation. So, as much as I hate filling this Topic with pink, I guess I have no choice.

Open dialogue, citing facts and good-natured perspective, is gladly welcome. Such grace is common courtesy as well as basic Forum etiquette. Inflammatory tones destroy all that we would work for, in distracting us from the point of matters.

I welcome different opinons and do not expect mine to be taken as the only right one. I also stand firm on my beliefs as do all of you. However it seems as though because my opinons differ greatly from yours and that I spoke up about them, I shall be branded "hysterical" and "having an offensive tone" not passionate and opinionated.

It was only your tone that was a touch hysterical, and therefore distracting. This is the kind of thing thing that hobbles the entire world's efforts to communicate with one another. Your saying, for example:

Do you have any idea how many pedophiles can be reading this? It's about a 5 year old!!! I'm tired of the argument "freedom of speech" Go ahead and walk up to a 5 year old and say some of the things in this story and then watch the cop drag you to jail.

was something that made me feel ashamed, as if I were a criminal. If, instead, you'd said, "I wonder if there is a way to profile the authors of these Stories, just to be sure they aren't active pedophiles, using your archive to perpetuate child abuse?", that would have been helpful (luckily, I separated the wheat from the chaff, but not without being unecessarily upset).

A lot of your post used tones more befitting of an interrogation, and seemed an attempt to shame others into bending to your will; if that were the intent, it would be called "emotional blackmail". I hope it wasn't, and am responding in that spirit.

Example the second: Had I responded with,

Jaxxy's Imaginary Quote:

"How can you suggest that we don't care if we hurt children? You don't

know

us -- we're mothers and fathers. That is so wrong on so many levels -- how

dare

you insinuate we would hurt a

baby??

Have we ever done

anything

with this website but work our fucking asses off to try to make people happy,

and

kids safe, me and everyone else that's ever stressed ourselves to high hell so you could mindlessly use us, with little gratitude or support?! YOU are the problem -- go catch the

actual

child molestors, if you're such a hero -- they hang out by the playground!"

then, I would have been escalating the situation, and actually doing more harm than the good I was going for. Even though that was representative of my initial reaction, instead, I said: "One thing we seem to agree on is that people that hurt people need to go," and other things aiming to get us to the heart of the matter. It is

imperative

we find our common grounds if we are to work together.

Interesting. I wonder if I chose to write a story about how I felt about this topic, if you would then applaud me for my artistic intent.

If it were a Story that was not based in harmful intent, posted by an Underager, or plagiarized, it would be left alone like anything else.

I agree words are a huge expression and that we all have the right to use them just as I have used them to bring attention to something that I PERSONALLY find very offensive. I had no qualms with you at all until you posted my private e-mail

Truth be told, I wasn't aware it was "Spanky's" email... and I still have little idea which one was yours. Besides, I protected the name (which is still not the name on anyones birth-certificate or in anyone's email, so you are quite safe). I thought about it very carefully, too, before I posted it; part of me wanted to keep it completely under wraps, but the logical mind realized that, if I did not present the situation in its true and complete form, I would actually be

mis

representing. The danger of "spinning" something, without direct quotation, is too great; the presentation was necessary and correct.

In addition, no one, including me, would've ever known that "Spanky" had authored that letter if you hadn't said so yourself.

I do not violate others' rights -- this should be obvious by now -- but if you insist upon your qualms, I can't do anything about that.

and then took pot shots at me.

I am confident that I have not. If I am mistaken, by all means, someone point out something I missed -- I edited myself for an hour to be sure I was kind, but I was ill.

I hope you have since recieved my second and final e-mail.

I just looked and I can't find it yet, but when I do, know that all things said, by anyone, are taken into consideration. (Just try not to give me a headache, please.)

I am done with this sight and planned to go after speaking my mind

Oh. If you had said that from the start, it would have changed things a bit. I didn't know you'd already made your decision, and that nothing I tried to help with would matter. It's not fair to use your right to freedom of speech and silence others with a pre-closed ear.

If I were expressing my personal opinion as freely as you were, at this moment in time, I would say you were closed-minded and had only ever intended to create a problem. There's a definition for that kind of behavior, but I will refrain from pointing it out, as I do not have enough proof.

Still, this is a great chance to illustrate a common communications break-down, so in the end, I am actually thankful for it.

but when my e-mail gets taken and replied to on a message board then I feel the need to defend myself, just as your authors do. It is also very unfortunate that I am not even able to post on that site/board because I do not have admin approval, yet you invite me there.

I am not the one that approves Forum Memberships, but I may have been imperfect in forgetting to say that there is always a 12-24 hour delay in approval; we do that to make sure all applicants are of age. Case in point, to an extent.

(Here, the Forum is telling me that I have exceeded the allowable number of blocks of quoted text, so I will continue in the post following this one.)

[Guest Jaxxy]

(Here, the Forum is telling me that I have exceeded the allowable number of blocks of quoted text, so I will continue in the post following this one.)

Continuing from my last post:

I too wish you nothing but good things and hope that in the future you would keep your private communications with your authors, just that, private. I also ask that you take a few things with you. 1. Being passionate does not make a person offensive, it makes them human I have read some very nasty comments in my years here but unfortunately when someone puts a story out to be read, they run the risk of negative comments. Look at reviews for published books...critics can be downright ruthless so what makes this any different?

If you mean, "What makes negative commentary on an Author's Review Board any different?" then it is not.

If you mean this place, what makes this Forum different is that it is actually the cyber-home in which we must work, and most days, live. The greatest majority of all types of organizations (such as a publishing company, as per your example) do not allow the slightest criticism on their own grounds; they call you a trespasser who disturbs the peace, and alert the authorities.

We actually

welcome

new points of view -- a rare, rare thing, because it does somewhat interfere with our primary tasks. Nonetheless, we accept it, and ask that it be polite, so we can clearly read and constructively process your ideas.

2. Perhaps a warning about the contents not just being explicit but possibly about children. I know that's not likely

Be fair and give us a chance.

because the argument is always, but then what do we find offensive and where is the line? Please consider making the line when a story is sexual with children under 14.

Actually, something like that that is already in the short-list works; we are formulating specific disclaimer-types to fit very different types of Stories, even as I type. The Story warnings are a good thing, but a bit more is a good idea -- so good, we had it ourselves!

3. Know that I know

your

bliss and it is in the form of a 7 and 11 year old and my speaking up just solidifies the respect and love I have for them as human beings. Children are not always given a voice and by speaking up, I feel as I've given them one, regardless of "artistic or creative" intent. I feel the way I feel PERIOD. I do not ask you to change your opinons I just ask you to question how far you are willing to go. Where do you draw your line and do you stand by it? I know you are quite unsure where you lie on this subject because I have read your posts

Ah-ah-ah! I

firmly

believe in ultimate freedom in fiction -- and its goodness, and its therapy -- where it can cause no harm. What I was unsure of was whether or not I was appropriately representing the majority of this community's feelings as well.

Kindly refrain from misrepresenting my

personal

Spirit's voice: Ultimate Freedom of Expression in Fiction is not something the world can afford to lose. Do No Harm and you are golden.

so I ask that you do what is neccessary to keep the integrity of this sight, even if that means going against what your authors expect.

Every day, Spanky, every day. It is an incredible challenge -- to the point that we have commonly had a very high 'turnover rate' in AFF's Staff. It's very hard to find the perfect balance; instead, I find that it is a continual re-gathering of one's feet under oneself.

So, here is another case in which we agree; you speak wisdom I already aim to apply.

Good luck and thank you for the hours of enjoyment I had reading some of this sights stories.

Very welcome, and nothing but honest cheer to you and your babies! Merry we meet and merry may we part.

Note to All

: Don't worry, I'm not going to blind you with my <3pink<3 every time this comes up -- to save everyone, I will only directly address new ideas or very uncommon situations. What has already been said is easily linkable.

[DemonGoddess]

Actually, the admin validation queue is gone through at a minimum once a day. If it's a work day for me. On my off days, I go through that queue several times a day.

There are a number of criteria before a forum membership is passed.

One is a valid link to the archive user for the forum registratrant, if I can't find one, that forum registration will be denied. Second is valid emails. Third, and most important, is age. Just as in the fiction portal, I do not approve forum members under the age of 18. Wish we could that in the portal too, but we cannot at the moment. It certainly would make things easier on that end.

I'm working on the blocked thing, that's an att/sbc server problem, so we have to get that unblocked again.