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Hm what might Echidna do with Shirou when she runs into him you think considering you said she'd be all over messing with Shirou? Might Echidna tease Shirou like this?

As for Alleyne, I could imagine her starting to fall in love with Shirou if he does spend some time with her in the Elves' Forest before leaving. Heck he might rescue her from Funikura at some point.

Do you think either Alleyne or Echidna's clothing and appearance/looks might arouse Shirou?

Hm do you think Ymir might get interested in Shirou considering his Projection ability? What about Nanael considering how she wants all men to her servants/slaves? Also might Tomoe & Shizuka get interested in him?

Thinking on Elina, I bet all of her hand-to-hand and martial arts training with Shirou would be also a way she could grope him, or play with him, but in a way that makes it look like they're just grappling or whatever.

In fact part of me wonders how long it takes before Shirou starts masturbating about any of the three Vance sisters or any of the other women he'll run into on his travels. :D

As for Izumi & Shirou I was thinking of the fact she was also a very good swordsman who is really good at archery. Similar to Shirou in that regard.

EDIT: How might Risty & Shirou react to each other? Might she show some interest in him after their encounter?

I had borrowed the "Holy Milk" idea from a fanfic called "Wandering Pilot". Considering you mentioned the possibility of Shirou running into the Swamp Witch trio:

I'm thinking what if Shirou gets captured by Airi, Melona, and Menace. Who knows what pleasures they might force on him to break him and make him their sex pet? Like maybe they capture Shirou because Melona pretends to be Leina or something and knocks him out before he can react, and maybe Melona or Airi finds out he has "Holy Milk" in him so all 3 decide to drain him again & again until they're content and he's drained dry. I could imagine Melona's, or Airi's or Menace's, sucking to be incredible and I could imagine all 3 working together in their titjob on Shirou. I could imagine Shirou enjoying Airi's hungry kisses, and blowjobs and pussy, when she finds out how tasty his life force is and, to handwave a use of Avalon's healing power because in canon it does require Saber to be there and here she wouldn't be there, that there's no danger of his life force running out due to Avalon always replenishing it. And I could imagine Menace enjoying having fun with Shirou as well.

I'm imagining Shirou is taken to some secret place the three know, with beds and such, so he wakes up from getting knocked out during the capture to find he's been tied to a bed and naked. He tried to get out of the ropes tying him to the bed but can't and after exhausting himself he hears Melona comment on how seeing him struggle was both cute and hot and she forms in between his legs, from a puddle of herself he didn't quite think of at first due to thinking the pink liquid was something else. Seeing her curvaceous body forming from the puddle, watching her rise in between his legs, gets him hard and aching which she is happy about and she decides to suck and stroke him off with her mouth and boobs multiple times. He cums in her a bunch of times, enough to be a little white instead of pink, and since she now has all this magical energy in her due to Shirou's "Holy Milk" she now has enough power to split into two Melona's and both have fun with Shirou. Then after that Airi and Menace come in to see more of this handsome prisoner they caught and together with Melona start sucking him dry again and again. Finally at the end Shirou is about to faint from the exhaustion and pleasure and all 3 women are cuddling up with him on the bed.

Thinking in it some more, I could imagine after Shirou faints the second time from all the femdommy sex he has with the trio, they take him to the Swamp Witch herself and she starts enjoying Shirou as well. I could imagine the Swamp Witch standing over Shirou's body before taking him to her bed chambers, with Airi, and possibly Mime & Meena as well, and proceeding to have a long, slow session with him because she wants especially wants control of the Holy Milk. As for why Airi is there, well Airi is her most trusted servant IIRC and maybe she has no problem with her joining in. And yes this would be femdommy as well because the Swamp Witch is THE Big Bad here. I don't think any heroics or escapes are going to work here, at the heart, and bedchamber, of the Swamp Witch's place of power.

The sex with the Swamp Witch would be three things: a means to power up from the Holy Milk, sex and mental interrogation. Shirou is already sorta weak against mental intrusion so imagine how much weaker would he be when pleasure is flooding his system and ruining any attempts to counter against the Swamp Witch's mental intrusions. So it serves not only as some fun for the Swamp Witch, it also is a means to more easily find out Shirou's secrets. For example the Swamp Witch is riding Shirou, bending over and kissing him along with pressing her body and chest into his front, and while Shirou is moaning at the pleasure the Swamp Witch is using her much closer proximity to Shirou to start charming and hypnotizing him with her eyes in order to get into his head easier. And him shooting Holy Milk into her would give her a boost of power or energy.

I can imagine Shirou fainting, again, from all the sex and mental intrusions and waking up chained to the floor with the Swamp Witch sitting in a throne much like this in front of him, letting Shirou know he is subservient to her. Like the lowest on the totem pole, there to be used by her subordinates and herself obviously, for pleasure or other purposes.

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Echidna would do whatever seems to entertain her or help her achieve her goals. Alleyne, maybe, but yes, Shirou would be all over destroying Funikura. He'd probably be into what they're wearing at least to some extent, but considering how female warriors tend to dress in Gainos, he'd probably also be fairly used to it.


Ymir...it would bug her, but she'd be curious. After all, he can replicate any weapon he sees instantly. She might go after him about copyright infringement. Or at least try to force him to agree to never copy her weapons. Although the replicating the user's abilities might also draw her attention, especially if it's not limited to weapons. Like reproducing a blacksmith's skills by Projecting their tools.


Nanael...doesn't seem to have any particular standard for her men, so her deciding she wants Shirou is perfectly plausible. Tomoe is one of the most blatantly heroic characters, so she'd be at least friendly to the hero wannabe. Shizuka would be suspicious, but treat him well, depending on Tomoe's response to him.


Shirou would be interested in Risty's Robin Hood act. She'd probably be all over trying to get as much money out of him as possible. Especially if Count Vance put out a reward for returning him. I don't really care for Risty.


How long it takes Shirou to start masturbating depends how long it takes him to be alone. Although he'd also probably feel bad about fantasizing about people he knew. Consider how bad he felt about thinking that Sakura was hot.


Menace would probably get him fairly easily, considering Shirou's weakness to hypnosis. Granted, she'd rather have him serve her willingly, but that works, too. Of course, outside hypnosis, it would be weird for them: Shirou is very accomadating, but he refuses to just be a servant. Plus he finds the "rebuild Amara" thing a little pointless. On the other hand, Menace is...selfish but not malicious, so he wouldn't really want to just treat her like any old villain. I'd actually see him feeling bad for the fact that the only "friends" she has are Setra, Melona, and Airi. So constant refusal to be her servant, but he feels bad for her and treats her well. Menace takes it to mean he really does want to be her servant, but is in denial, so she has to break that denial.


Melona's the most blatantly malicious and cruel of the three. Menace would be fine having him serve her. Airi would use his life force to feed on and anything else the Swamp Witch ordered. Melona would want to torment him, just for shits and giggles. She'd make sure he was conscious and fully aware before doing anything to him. Then she'd also mess with him by transforming into other people, the Vance sisters, anyone he's met, really. Break him down to the point where he's happy to see her when she's herself, because then at least he knows more or less what to expect. Plus all the slime benefits.


Airi first sees him as just a food supply. Ironically, that works out best between them because there's no pretense to any interactions. And if at some point Shirou is free to wander but still stuck in the lair, he'd revert to his old habits of cooking and cleaning. That's what actually provokes her and makes her angry at him, enough to do something. But orders were that he's not to be damaged, so she can't just kill him. That's what leads Airi to force Shirou down and rape him the first time. After that, she realizes that a)she enjoyed it, and b)it left her with a fantastic surplus of energy. So from that point, she makes sure to constantly use him to top off the gas tank, as it were.


Swamp Witch, yeah, winds up super dommy. All about establishing that she is the absolute authority. Plus she has her magic. Her curses do things like make Claudette crazy with duty and authority, make Tomoe go blind, and make Leina a narcoleptic in Rebellion. So who's to say what she could do to Shirou? Her end game, though, I think would be a result kind of like how Airi does her duty, regardless of her personal feelings on the matter, because that's what a maid does. Only more 1984. By the end, the Swamp Witch wants Shirou to understand that he LOVES her, and will do anything for her, however cruel and/or lewd it might be. Making sure Airi and all her other servants that feed on life force are addicted to him enough to never disobey her, since she controls the supply. Forcing Liliana and possibly Menace into submission when they go rogue. Using Shirou to target and help break any enemy target, like having him "free" Nowa and Tomoe while Dogura has them, only to turn on them himself. And she might decide to go ahead and bring in Werbellia's (the body the Swamp Witch is using) children, Annelotte and Aldra, to bring their strength to her side, and for a happy family reunion/foursome. He's in the odd position of being both the lowest on the totem pole and the closest to the Witch, like how a loyal dog is still just a dog, but might be loved and very well used by its master.

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What do you imagine the sex with Menace, Melona, & Airi would be like for Shirou? Like what kind of sex might occur with them or how would the sex feel? Like would Menace, Melona, and Airi have differences in blowjobs or fucking?

How do you imagine their bodies would feel to Shirou? And any particular types of sex any of the three might do with Shirou if/when femdoming him? Like might paizuri be something they do? Would we be seeing a lot of paizuri from Menace & Melona? Would either also kiss him a lot?

And how often might they fuck Shirou? Would they enjoy sex with him?

Hm how do you imagine Melona, Menace, or Airi would wake up Shirou if/when he faints from sex with them?

You mention how Airi would realize Shirou is a great source for topping off and how much she enjoyed doing so. Would Shirou enjoy Airi's kissing and fucking and sucking and so on? Would we be seeing a lot of paizuri from Airi as well?


As for the Swamp Witch what might sex with her be like for Shirou, considering you mention she would be "super dommy"? What kind of stuff would she do to him? Might she do paizuri with him?

How do you imagine Shirou's sex with her might start out? Like the sex where she slowly converts Shirou to her 1984-style.

How often might the Swamp Witch fuck Shirou? Would she enjoy her sex with Shirou?

For rewards or punishment, possibly sexual in nature for both, what might they be or how might the Swamp Witch do either with Shirou?

Would the Swamp Witch sorta keep Shirou in her bed or would she be the type to let her servants use him as well as long as they know not to use him too much, and that he is hers?

Hm after sex, how might the Swamp Witch wake up Shirou if/when he faints from exhaustion from the sex? Would he wake up to Airi bent over, in her maid outfit or possibly naked except for her stockings, seemingly trying to suck his balls dry through blowjobs and titjob? Or would the Swamp Witch want to wake him up through her own methods?

In regards to using Shirou as a sorta corruptor, I could imagine Shirou, mindbroken by her like how was discussed about Caster in that lemon bad ends thread, having the women he rescues like say Nowa or Alleyne or whoever and thus turning them over to the Swamp Witch's side because in doing so they get to stay with Shirou.


As for Ymir, I think she might find Shirou interesting not only for the weapon copying but also because since his magic is so intertwined with swords and their forging so-to-speak in his RM, that he would intimately know blacksmithing despite not having actually physically done it. IIRC Emiya is described as a blacksmith hero sometimes. Cool thing about her, if she wants to learn more erotic information about Shirou, she has an ability called Giant Growth. I could see that having uses for learning more dirty stuff about him. ;)

Considering what you said about the possibility of the Swamp Witch using Shirou to bring Annelotte and Aldra to her side, and four a reunion/foursome, how would either Aldra or Annelotte like Shirou?

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For Menace, the idea of doing something purely for Shirou's pleasure might just not occur to her as something to do. Like, she's aware that blowjobs and whatever else are a thing, but the thought of doing it herself just doesn't click. After all, she is a queen.


Melona is good at what she does, along with having a lot of experience, considering how old she's sometimes implied to be. Airi is also good, but because she feels that it is her duty as a maid. Whether she has any actual experience is up in the air.


Once the Swamp Witch had her say, Airi would probably be the only one with totally free access to him, since she's the only one of the three that's actually really loyal. The others would probably fuck him as much as possible. Menace would be in it purely for the fucking. Airi would enjoy it, but deny that she did and insist she did it only for the energy. Melona would freely admit that she enjoyed it, that she wanted to get as much Holy Milk as possible, and that she just really had fun torturing Shirou.


The important thing to remember, though, is that Shirou, when he gets going, has a LUDICROUS tolerance for pain and suffering. He spent years doing something that felt like shoving a hot iron into his spine with no noticeable benefits, he stood up when he was almost cut in half and only held together by swords, he forced his body to continue on and destroy the Greater Grail AFTER HE'D ALREADY DIED...so yeah, it'd take some work to break him down.


Might be she starts off "rescuing" him from one of the others, acting all friendly, nice, and warm. Then switches over to cruel and sadistic once he drops his guard. After that, a switch every once in a while, acting as though nothing happened, just back and forth, to make him more fragile. Then some carrot and stick training, until he's trained into "obedience=good, defiance=bad." Although, considering Shirou, it'd most likely wind up needing someone else being punished for his disobedience before he gave in.


Eh, she'd probably keep him sometimes, but otherwise, leave him free to be wherever. Most likely with rules about who is and is not allowed to take him with them. And waking him up would probably be different, entirely depending on what she felt like. Although Shirou also typically doesn't sleep much, something like 4 hours a night by the time FSN starts, so he might just get himself up regularly.


Yeah, Tracing does include "Imitating the skill of its making" as one of the steps, so at least in theory, there's some level of being able to reproduce the blacksmithing work. But Ymir would probably wind up raging about that, since all he would be able to do would be to reproduce something someone else did, rather than doing anything himself. She might just decide that means he needs to learn proper blacksmithing, just so he doesn't disgrace the art. Although I don't see her using Giant Growth readily, just out of pride. If she can't get what she wants out of Shirou off her own charms or by force, she won't resort to that. Not to say she wouldn't use it at some point when she already had him, just to see what it was like.

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Wait who would do the "rescuing"? Are you talking about the Swamp Witch or Melona when saying that?

Since you mentioned Shirou would both be the closest to the Swamp Witch and the lowest on the totem pole, how might the Swamp Witch show her servants, the ones that still have will of their own at least, how close Shirou's position to her really is? Like would there be actions she performs, when around Shirou that would show he's the closest of her servants?

Considering you mentioned sex with the Swamp Witch would be "super dommy" what do you imagine sex with her would be like for Shirou? Would she actually be pleasuring him a lot? Would she be possibly using her magic to also femdom Shirou in his dreams or reinforce the sexual and loving relationship between herself & Shirou?

From what you mentioned about Airi, it sounds like she would be quite tsundere toward Shirou. XD Do you think she and Menace would possibly start to fall for Shirou? In fact considering Airi would be allowed to fuck Shirou whenever, would sessions with the Swamp Witch for Shirou swiftly turn into threesomes when Airi is around?

For Shirou what would be the difference in his attraction for the Swamp Witch & each main servant of hers like Melona, Menace, Airi, & Liliana? Like what might attract him to each one, both before & after the Swamp Witch has him?

As for Melona, considering her ability to squirt acid that only eats clothes from her boobs, how might she use such abilities like that in more erotic moments? Like perhaps when she first encounters Shirou her acid milk is like a mixture of the acid that dissolves clothes along with possibly being an aphrodisiac that when it touches your skin makes you super horny & sensitive to touch at the same time? Or how might she use her fluids during sex to make things more erotic/fun for herself, and possibly Shirou as well?

EDIT: Just thought of something, if Shirou would become the Swamp Witch's closest servant, might someone like Airi possibly get jealous about that? I wonder if she might, sexually, take out her frustration on Shirou then.


Hm considering how Claudette becomes the new queen after she wins the Queen's Blade, how might she employ Shirou considering how she appoints Elina as the new head of the Assassins of the Fang? And how might both Elina & Claudette, and anyone else on the Queen's side in Rebellion such as Ymir & Eilin , might use Shirou for more sexual purposes?

Also that makes me wonder how might Irma interact with Shirou considering he'd have gained the attention/interest of her former master Echidna?


How might Melpha like Shirou? Do you think she'd possibly fall for him?

For the Shirou under the Swamp Witch, how might Liliana like him? Would she be wanting to get into his pants soon or use him a lot like Airi?


As for the Rebellion army, if Shirou did decide to join them early on for whatever reason, how would the main figures of the rebellion like Annelotte like him?

Hm might Sainyang & Tarnyang possibly fall for Shirou if he saves them, possibly several times? I could see them becoming inadvertent (from his POV) followers of himself if he's saved them several times. :D How might both girls like Shirou?



Also I've thought of someone that might enjoy Shirou even though she is admittedly from another Queen's Blade continuity, specifically Queen's Blade Grimoire: Tiina
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How do you think she might like Shirou? And how do you think Shirou might like Tiina?



It also makes me wonder how might Kaguya like Shirou due to his ability to copy weapons, and his personality, and how might Zara & possibly Alicia like him for his personality and such. Hm you think Shirou might like any of them back?

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1. Been thinking of another possible pairing for Shirou, this time from Fate/Apocrypha, borrowed from YeOfLittleFaith from Beast's Lair.

Thinking possibly if Shirou, Fiore, & Jeanne could somehow get into a relationship/threesome pairing.

Maybe a post-FSN Shirou, possibly UBW-ish or Fate-ish who knows, on an on-and-off visit to Rin at the Clock Tower, bumps into the wheelchair bound girl with the contagious smile of a person who's enjoying her simple days and can't help but be reminded of Illya despite their completely different looks and personalities. They end up hanging out sporadically after that, bonding over the fact that both are magi who really don't fit the magus mold, with Shirou wanting to be able to do something for her, given how her talents actually limit her.

Yes, I'm wondering if Shirou here may become friends, and possibly more, with Fiore Forvedge Yggdmillennia. And as they spend time together, naturally it attracts interest from certain quarters, such as Darnic who would certainly be wondering about that boy who his darling heir has been spending so much time with, especially since Shirou is the winner of the Fifth Holy Grail War while Darnic barely survived the Third Grail War. And well if he does learn about Shirou's unique abilities, well the Yggdmillennia are always recruiting...

Thinking possibly as Shirou and Fiore start to fall for each other that they get pulled into the Apocrypha Grail War somehow and Shirou summons a Servant, specifically Jeanne, and Fiore maybe summons Mordred

In truth the Grail War is little more than a means for Jeanne, and possibly Mordred, to be summoned and get into threesomes or foursomes with Shirou & Fiore. Fiore and Jeanne certainly do have lovely bodies and Mordred is definitely attractive as well, especially if she still ends up in this outfit. Heck you never know if Shirou and Mordred might fight together well.

Fun fact about Fiore & Jeanne, Jeanne is the same in bust size as Sakura and Fiore is 1 centimeter smaller in bust than Jeanne.

Do you think this might work for Shirou & Fiore & Jeanne? Do you have your own ideas of what they might do?

2. Among the QB scenarios we discussed, whether Shirou is wandering around, or still part of the Vance Estate, or been captured by the Swamp Witch and her main trio of servants, in each scenario whom might Shirou lose his virginity to in your opinion?

2a. In the scenario where Shirou gets captured by the Swamp Witch trio, and then dominated/sorta mind broken by the Swamp Witch, how might Airi, Melona, Menace, & Liliana's attitudes toward Shirou change the longer he is with them?

Because from what you said, it sounds like Airi, and possibly Menace, might start falling in love with him. Would Airi be sorta tsundere toward Shirou? And how might Liliana like Shirou?

2b. Where might Shirou run into Melona, Menace, and Airi? Would he be running into them in the Amaran desert?

2c. During the time they have Shirou, but prior to reaching the Swamp Witch, or even after reaching the Swamp Witch, would Menace, Melona, and Airi all be sleeping in the same bed with Shirou or would it be like he'd have his own bed and they'd be sleeping in the room with him but not in the same bed?

3. For Shirou, how might sex with the Swamp Witch be "super dommy" in your opinion? Any scenarios with her you imagine?

4. How do you think Tiina from Queen's Blade Grimoire might like Shirou? And do you think Shirou might like her back, assuming they somehow met if he fell into Mel Fair Land?

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If Fiore has talent for spiritual evocation, having an interest in the greatest example of spirits manifesting, the Servants of the Holy Grail War makes sense. And between Rin the proude genius and Shirou the overly nice failure, he would be easier to approach. Plus he could sympathize with her refusing to give up magecraft in spite of how it effects her, given how he trained his magecraft for years and how he clings to becoming a hero despite seeing how it could turn out.


And if it's a situation where Saber has given up on the Grail and gone on to Avalon, as in Fate and UBW, she wouldn't be available to summon since she wouldn't go to the Throne. So presuming UBW and having Avalon as a catalyst, it's basically going to revert to someone else from Camelot that had some contact with it, along with possibly being influenced by the summoner(s), so with Shirou probably aiming for "someone like Saber," Mordred is a reasonable outcome. And Shirou would have an advantage of personally knowing Saber and some of her feelings on the whole situation.


Jeanne...if she were Ruler, and acting to try and preserve the situation, to make sure to minimize casualties, Shirou would definitely work with her to keep to that goal. Then his usual harem protagonist tendencies would take over and help her fall for him.


Main issue is dealing with the justification, namely, if a Grail War is going on, who else is involved and why isn't everybody busy killing each other?

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Well I was just thinking the Grail War here would just be a background d thing. Like you use it to explain like why such and such needs a prana transfer or something.

With Fiore could Avalon possibly heal her legs? And how might Jeanne & Fiore wind up in the same bed with Shirou in your mind?

Hm for the other Masters and Servants here would you use their OTL counterparts from Apocrypha or would you use other Masters & Servants in their place?

Well maybe Atalanta, Semiramis, and Jack would stay for this but who else for Servants, and Masters, might you have participating in this War?

Hm how might say Semiramis interact with Shirou here? Might she possibly get interested in him if her Master here was someone sorta crappy?

As for Atalanta might she get interested in Shirou due to his archery?

Heh part of me is wondering with Jack if Shirou might get attracted at first due to her outfit, and her ass. Maybe she gets summoned by Semiramis or something?

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