BronxWench

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Hi everyone! I just joined this community. My name's Jasmine. She/her/they/them. I'm 30 years old and a genderfluid lesbian. I love to read and I love to write. I write mostly original fiction. Currently I'm writing a science fiction/erotic romance story. 
I wrote only one fanfiction for the Catch Teenieping fandom but I got writers block so I never finished it or posted it anywhere. Haha.
But I am really interested in fanfiction. I really would love to start writing fanfiction! I am currently reading The Hobbit. So maybe I will write fanfiction for the LOTR fandom. 
Besides reading and writing, I love drawing, watching anime, playing video games on nintendo switch lite. 
I'm so glad that  I joined this website and I hope that we can be friends!
 
 

Here you go!
https://cartoon.adult-fanfiction.org/index.php?cat=2078

Unfortunately, the number of views a story receives is not a filterable field. Stories appear on each subdomain’s home page in order of the most recent update or initial posting.

her torturer is actually her husband. or part of him anyway. i have written them quite graphically, so i must put warnings in place when comes to time publish those. i have written those beforehand , kinda, i am not writing my story from start to end . i  write it from everywhere in the middle even. i write these chapters or events and them tie them together someday. thanks for answering. this story is about supernatural beings, which can  be alive even without organs ,so my writing is rough. 

in my story i have invented quite a lot new anatomical quirks and organs and stuff, but naming them is not so easy. i am writing in finnish and translating my into english so i am trying to come up with english words. so far they are clinical  or vague, like stuff , it is fun to invent new things but quite hard to name them. like i just should make a whole new vocabulary for my story.

I’ve moved the story for you to the correct category.

Alright, sharing this from my story ideas/notes scratchpad:
A pastor giving a children's sermon on vestments asks, "Why do you think I wear this collar?"
One kid answered, "Because it kills ticks and fleas up to 30 days?"

Therein lies the issue for me in my role as moderator. It’s not the work of the posting author, no matter how you spin it, and therefore it’s not allowed on AFF per our Terms of Service. Other fiction archives might have a different opinion, but because we are an age-restricted site, we are likely to come under closer scrutiny in general, and there’s no sense in compounding things by letting people post work they didn’t actually write themselves.
Maybe someone needs to start a fiction archive/website for AI-generated fiction? Bring a little transparency to the matter, so to speak?

Do NOT invoke that which you cannot banish!  Sweet merciful gods of my fathers… 

Therein lies the issue for me in my role as moderator. It’s not the work of the posting author, no matter how you spin it, and therefore it’s not allowed on AFF per our Terms of Service. Other fiction archives might have a different opinion, but because we are an age-restricted site, we are likely to come under closer scrutiny in general, and there’s no sense in compounding things by letting people post work they didn’t actually write themselves.
Maybe someone needs to start a fiction archive/website for AI-generated fiction? Bring a little transparency to the matter, so to speak?

Apologies for the paywall thing. I forget about that all the damned time, probably because I’m on the far side of middle aged. 

The above is exactly why I don’t think AI has a place in actual writing, even if it’s fan fiction.  The New York Times did a comparison of AI-generated essays/writing prompts versus those written by actual children.  (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/12/26/upshot/chatgpt-child-essays.html ) Judy Blume, the author, participated. Give it a try, and see how well you do.

An AI will never provide the insight of a human editor, who can identify what human readers will want to read. It’s pretty basic, actually. Spell checkers and grammar checkers, no matter how sophisticated, can’t read for content like a human. What you’re thinking about is the proofreading stage, which comes at the very end of the process, after the editor and author have beaten that gruesome draft into something resembling a real book.
(And even then, the author can overrule the proofreader because conversation is not grammatically perfect, after all.)

I’m not entirely sure AI could ever replace editors.
Until I went through the editorial process, I had only a rudimentary understanding of what was involved. There’s a huge amount of work beyond the simple grammar and spelling check, and looking for overuse of common words. A really great editor gets into your character’s heads, and will question you about why a character did something, when it seems like they might have been more inclined to do this other thing. Or they will spot chronological issues, or perhaps they just want to comment that they found a particular bit you wrote to be emotionally powerful. Whatever it is, AI can’t do that for you because it requires sentience and emotional involvement, neither of which AI possesses at present.
And the mice would like you to know that it took sentience in their test subjects to arrive at that answer. And fjords.

I have to say that I’m not a fan of throwing copyright out the window, which is really what deep fake is. If Grimes wants to explicitly allow deep fakes of her voice, that’s her privilege, but I don’t think it’s even remotely alright to assume everyone who creates art, music, or written work is fine with being deep faked.
Since I write for publication, I tend to focus on that, and it makes me extremely uncomfortable that someone would feel entitled to profit off what I’ve created. The majority of writers don’t earn enough to support themselves exclusively by writing. We’re not all NYTimes bestseller listed, or snapped up by the increasingly small number of large presses. We get a small enough slice of the pie as it is without having to worry about someone deciding to use AI to write a book using our characters, or settings, and taking our sliver of market share away from us.
It also begs the question of why anyone would prefer to have AI write for them. For me, much of the joy and satisfaction of writing is putting the words together and creating a phrase, or a sentence, or a paragraph that resonates. I like to find cadence, and play with language. Why would I give that over to an AI program? I’d be ashamed to call myself a writer if I didn’t actually write what I put out there, either for sale of for free on a site like AFF.

Do NOT invoke that which you cannot banish!  Sweet merciful gods of my fathers… 

Heard foxnews recently let go one artificial air-head…
 

Hi, Desiderius Price.
In your example above, AI could be a tool to help an author.  So could a beta reader/editor, with likely better results.
 
Some less dubious “trickery” has been used in the past for circumstances like you’ve listed.  However, AI is inherently untrustworthy, since by its very nature it will “taint” that actor/actress’s entire performance in that movie.  It’s far better to edit the screenplay to downplay the dead performer’s character, or reshoot all the scenes that performer appeared in with a different performer.  AI is already being used excessively to the detriment of real people, whether those people are the human creative people or the audience for which those people would otherwise perform.  This says nothing about those cases where real people should/would not perform at all.
Thanks.

The above is exactly why I don’t think AI has a place in actual writing, even if it’s fan fiction.  The New York Times did a comparison of AI-generated essays/writing prompts versus those written by actual children.  (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/12/26/upshot/chatgpt-child-essays.html ) Judy Blume, the author, participated. Give it a try, and see how well you do.

Hello again, all.
I didn’t actually try to answer the original question.  Here’s my answer.
Not just no, but fuck no. 
AI Deep Fakes are the antithesis of Fanfiction.  AIs are not people and thus can’t admire genuine creativity; and many who would use AIs for such a purpose are little better.
In my previous post, I mentioned the works of Robert Goldsborough.  Those works were properly licensed in advance with the Rex Stout Estate, and were successfully published and critically received on their own merits.  Ultimately, though, Goldsborough’s Nero Wolfe was the ultimate pinnacle of fanfiction—one that was so good that it went straight from the typewriter to the commercial editor, and then to the publisher and commercial success.  Without the creativity and love Goldsborough (and his mother, whose love for Stout’s Wolfe inspired his efforts) had for Stout’s works, plus Goldsborough’s own talent and creativity, those seventeen (and counting) books would never have happened.  AIs are neither talented or creative, thus an AI couldn’t possibly create anything good; here or elsewhere.
Thanks.

An AI will never provide the insight of a human editor, who can identify what human readers will want to read. It’s pretty basic, actually. Spell checkers and grammar checkers, no matter how sophisticated, can’t read for content like a human. What you’re thinking about is the proofreading stage, which comes at the very end of the process, after the editor and author have beaten that gruesome draft into something resembling a real book.
(And even then, the author can overrule the proofreader because conversation is not grammatically perfect, after all.)

I have to say that I’m not a fan of throwing copyright out the window, which is really what deep fake is. If Grimes wants to explicitly allow deep fakes of her voice, that’s her privilege, but I don’t think it’s even remotely alright to assume everyone who creates art, music, or written work is fine with being deep faked.
Since I write for publication, I tend to focus on that, and it makes me extremely uncomfortable that someone would feel entitled to profit off what I’ve created. The majority of writers don’t earn enough to support themselves exclusively by writing. We’re not all NYTimes bestseller listed, or snapped up by the increasingly small number of large presses. We get a small enough slice of the pie as it is without having to worry about someone deciding to use AI to write a book using our characters, or settings, and taking our sliver of market share away from us.
It also begs the question of why anyone would prefer to have AI write for them. For me, much of the joy and satisfaction of writing is putting the words together and creating a phrase, or a sentence, or a paragraph that resonates. I like to find cadence, and play with language. Why would I give that over to an AI program? I’d be ashamed to call myself a writer if I didn’t actually write what I put out there, either for sale of for free on a site like AFF.

I’m not entirely sure AI could ever replace editors.
Until I went through the editorial process, I had only a rudimentary understanding of what was involved. There’s a huge amount of work beyond the simple grammar and spelling check, and looking for overuse of common words. A really great editor gets into your character’s heads, and will question you about why a character did something, when it seems like they might have been more inclined to do this other thing. Or they will spot chronological issues, or perhaps they just want to comment that they found a particular bit you wrote to be emotionally powerful. Whatever it is, AI can’t do that for you because it requires sentience and emotional involvement, neither of which AI possesses at present.
And the mice would like you to know that it took sentience in their test subjects to arrive at that answer. And fjords.

I’m not entirely sure AI could ever replace editors.
Until I went through the editorial process, I had only a rudimentary understanding of what was involved. There’s a huge amount of work beyond the simple grammar and spelling check, and looking for overuse of common words. A really great editor gets into your character’s heads, and will question you about why a character did something, when it seems like they might have been more inclined to do this other thing. Or they will spot chronological issues, or perhaps they just want to comment that they found a particular bit you wrote to be emotionally powerful. Whatever it is, AI can’t do that for you because it requires sentience and emotional involvement, neither of which AI possesses at present.
And the mice would like you to know that it took sentience in their test subjects to arrive at that answer. And fjords.