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  1. You make some good points, but you also make some bad points. You brought up balance, which is the most important way to stop sueism. You brought up series normalcy, which can definately skew a sue test. But at the same time, making the magician bad at sports is a bit of a cliche, and a lot of times addiction is a major tool used by sues and can amplify sueness in another direction. There is the "I'm super unique and good at everything" perfection sues, but in the age of emos, there is also the "I'm depressed, an addict, and sometimes cut myself to feel alive" self destruction sue.
  2. I'm responding to this challenge as well, I already have two parts done and I'm halfway through a third, I'm going to finish it before I'm done, though I'm doing a couple of things somewhat differently due to a plot bunny that sort of created itself halfway through the first part. There is a part that is quite extreme, though it hasn't happened yet so I may change it for the sake of not squicking a lot of people. Truth be told, it's too extreme for my tastes, but it's something different that I don't think many have done. And it's a different take on an often explored idea. There will be 7 parts, all sex. Once I finish I'll post them up.
  3. I'm not a christian myself, but the bible is a pretty good read. I like the part where Jesus flies down from heaven with a sword sticking out of his mouth to kill all non-christians.
  4. I'm sorry, but I like the non-satirical litmus test. At least the one I took, which was similar to the one described first. I think some people are taking the tests too hardcore. If the character is a self insert, that's a very big indicator of sueness. Purple eyes have almost become the genetic trait of sueness. But that is only 2 checks. Having purple eyes, or wanting to be like the character you create does not mean your character is a sue. Usually at the bottom of the test it says "0 - 15: Not a sue at all. 15 - 30: Kinda Sue-ish, depends on the writers ability. 30-45: Almost definitely a Sue. 45+: OMG What are you doing!" So really, you have to have over half the required traits to REALLY be put into the sue camp. Of course, its always better to be in the first or lower end of the second category, but once you have over 50% of the sue traits, The room for defense starts becoming limited. When I took the test I was looking at (I THINK it came from somewhere on these forums.) I only got 5 or so. Jesus is a total Stu, that's the point.
  5. I wouldn't call you the idiot, you just took someone's advice, and it turned out to be wrong. I'd call the person who misinformed you the idiot, because this person is going around spreading information that is just not true. Sure, some people slide under the radar, and more power to them for beating FFnet's censorship, but at the same time, teling people it's FFnet's policy to allow it if it's labelled properly is just wrong of them.
  6. What if say Tolkienfan78 did that, but put in the disclaimer something very vague, like "Not all situations in this story are 100% original. Credit to all authors this work has been inspired by." Even though it doesn't cite anyone by name, is that enough to discount any claims of plagiarism? Or what if Tolkienfan78 maybe read ForceMaster's fic a year or two ago, and without realizing it, copied the scene almost exactly. Maybe different words, definitely different names and places, but same sequence of events exactly? Would it still be plagiarism if the person did so unintentionally. or without their own knowledge? This happens a lot more than I would have thought, before hearing about it many times, even in published work. Star Wars is just a sci-fi version of an Akira Kurosawa Samurai flick, if I recall correctly, but it was different /enough/ to escape copyright violation. (Although I'm fairly certain that wasn't unintentional.) I just think the concept of plagiarism in an art form that heavily relies on borrowing from others is very interesting. Obviously, like you said, for people who appropriate complete paragraphs etc from the core work are disclaiming those situations, and the fanbase knows for the most part whats canon and fanon (although for awhile I was reading so much fanfiction, and it was so long since I read the books, I had actually incorporated some fanon into what I thought was canon, very odd...) If a vague disclaimer like that could work, and was put into general use, we may see more derivative works, which would make fiction that made use of it kind of samey, but at the same time, if something like that was mainstream, and such a movement of ideas become standard, it could open doors for some writers to take things that have already been done in fanfiction and put a spin on it much more easily, like programmers using open source code in their own programs to speed things up. Like I said, I'm mainly a Harry Potter reader. and as such, I see a lot of "Book 1 - 7 with a different twist" stories, where Harry is a Ravenclaw, or a Slytherin, or sends his consciousness back in time so he's 30 in an 11 year old's body etc etc. and these all make heavy use of the source fiction. Essentially rewrites of the canon story with different plot bunnies. And what struck me, before I posted that, was: What if instead of doing a rewrite of one of the canon books, someone did a rewrite of fan novels? I don't know if it's ever been done, and I don't plan on it myself, I just think the concept of a "second generation" fanfic was interesting, which started an internal dialogue on plagiarism in fanworks.
  7. I see people talking about plagiarism a lot, when one person takes major ideas and puts them into their own work. In a situation where we are all fanauthors here, is it really fair to call something plagiarism unless it is taken in it's entirety? I mean, I'm primarily a Harry Potter fanfic reader. And its normal for whole scenes in fics being taken straight from the books, with minute changes, if any. People don't consider it plagiarizing because while certain scenes are being taken and used as is, the author isn't just reposting the orignal story with their name on it. How is that really any different from taking whole parts of fanfics, and modifying them to suit the purposes of one's own fanfic? I know a lot of things in the Harry Potter fanworks get used a lot, and while I haven't seen it in a long time, I can remember, in the past, when people used to claim plagiarism in stories where Harry goes shopping, buys holsters, dragonhide clothing/armour, etc etc, AND a Moody-esque trunk, with an apartment, and dueling chamber that acts as a training room of requirement. Or if Harry has a time turner, and uses it excessively so there are 5+ Harry's running around all summer (usually in the aforementioned trunk) people used to say "Hey, that idea came from "original person to think of that" (I forget who, perhaps it was RossRock or somesuch? Basically what I am getting at is, as there are plenty of scenes taken straight from canon and dressed up certain ways to fit a fanfic (or in some cases, scenes taken directly from canon, unchanged, under the assumption that there is original content around it making the story into a fanwork, and not a carbon copy); Can we really call anything EXCEPT for posting someone else's story in it's entirity with your name plagiarism? I mean, I can understand an author getting peeved or ticked off that someone is taking their scene (almost) exactly, and putting it in their own story. But it's the same for canon in a lot of situations. So what do you think?
  8. I can't say I was surprised when a forum for Authors has "Author's choice" as the overwhelming majority, and while in general, that fine, I decided to choose "at least once in most chapters" because I think coming to a site like this, people are expecting sex, and while I don't think author's should be slaves to the readership, I think there are always ways to work some sex into most chapters. Sometimes there may be periods of 3-4 chapters where characters who would otherwise be having sex are separated, or can't find the time, and that's fine too but I suppose even in those instances, you could throw in some Solo, just to keep the readers on the edge of their seats. Certainly one can write a novel length fic with occasional sex, and it will still be a great story, and there is nothing wrong with that. There are exceptions to every rule. But as a generalization I think unless you are going for something such as Harley Quinn hyenaholic, at least 11/20 chapters containing some sort of erotic content is fair.
  9. Currently I don't have any stories out, I'm working on a couple one shots, hopefully working up to a full story, but when I post them, if I get any reviews, I'll want them to be negative. Sure, it's good to know people like your work, but that's not important. I believe I have a fairly good handle on the English language in general, but I'm not exactly confidant in my writing abilities. Improving is one of my main motivations, second to creation.
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